BMP sell seperate petition.

Ember010

Ember010

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
I cba wth this thread anymore so the above quote sums it up for me. I just end up trying to say why those selfish BMP owners need to grow up, but it's not getting anywhere.
Nor can I really. But hey, the personal attacks are giving us something to do aren't they?
Maybe they pity us because us lowly non-credit card holders have nothing to do. Oh how I do wish for a BMP so I could play the game..Oh wait. I can.

If anything listening to this ''U HAD UR CHANCE WHINERS'' thread, which is supposed to be a petition btw, has really made me think, ''Wow. Totally NOT worth it.'' At least if I'm going to become one of you lot.

I'll sit back down and enjoy myself with the other lowly mortals.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

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^^
I just believe that if people wanted it, they could have organized themselves enough to get it. I had to do that, they should have been able to.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by holababe
^^
I just believe that if people wanted it, they could have organized themselves enough to get it. I had to do that, they should have been able to.
and so did all the other people who bought it. What this amounts to is non-buyers remorse. They all probably thought." It's going to be lame so why bother." and when it turned out to not be lame they started to cry.

Ember010

Ember010

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
and so did all the other people who bought it. What this amounts to is non-buyers remorse. They all probably thought." It's going to be lame so why bother." and when it turned out to not be lame they started to cry.
Crying? And you're the Father Figure giving out the tough love?

Edit: Fixed my bad grammar

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Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

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I'm all for selling it separate if Anet wants too, considering the extensive added value with the weapons... Hurray for crashing the gold weapon market!!! I love that aspect of it 100%. No need to ever tell people to deal with scam resellers again. Just go earn one for yourself and mod it as you wish... And Hurray for customized weapons too. That keeps the same scammers from getting unjust millions from just getting a BMP.

However in no way should the BMP content be sold offline. This precedence of selling it in the store would be a venue for future low cost addons and encourage Anet to make more. The BMP was HUGE incentive for most of us to buy up something online. Character slots, skill packs, GWEN whatever... I did buy GWEN retail so I could get the box content. which I wanted... But I made sure to buy up Character slots so I would qualify for the BMP. Well worth it in PvP Storage mules alone... IMHO.

The BMP for the people that didn't get it turned out to be a lot better then they claimed huh? At least in the rewards. Which Anet never said WHAT they would be but eluded to well in advance they would be good.

While the missions themselves I kinda have to give a thumbs down to because they are single player, and that aspect made it kinda lame. The story themselves and the rewards for participating are ok IMO. A true Added value. Its just a shame we could not go with our friends on these missions instead of a bunch of henchmen. For me. Thats just boring. But thats just me. I just prefer playing with others... Compromises had to be made and that was that...

Obviously NXT time Anet give you MONTHS upon MONTHS of time to get a bonus and they tell you it WILL be worth it. people will take their word for it and do so. I mean hell my dog could have gotten a secured limit visa card or paypal visa card or prepaid visa gift card in that time... Any of which could have been used to get the added stuff. and qualify for the BMP. And there was no limit on Character slots, so if you had all 3 pvp and all 3 retail and GWEN already prior to the offer... there was still SOMETHING to be gotten.

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by holababe
^^
Grammar Nazi sorry.
It's you're not your. I have to correct people on that lol
Rather easy to correct people and make mistakes yourself. Anyway, when people pick up on grammatical errors and whatnot, that is a sure sign that the thread is going nowhere. I have a feeling it is going to be closed soon.

Smoke

Smoke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Down Under

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Quote:
Originally Posted by L.J
didn read the entire thread.

heh make $380 a fortnight living in Australia? get of ceterlink and go find a full time job.
i was about to say, get off the dole u bludger, ($380 per fortnight is the dole payment in AUS for those who dont know)

s/he bitches that they cant afford to live let alone buy something from gw store.
Get off ur lazy ass and get a job, theres so many jobs going around at the moment its not funny. Even if you are young, juniors can earn $400 a week.

/not signed coz i hate to pay my tax for supporting whining bludgers like that.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

This thread has to be one of the funniest things I've read in a while.

Really, it is. It's funny to see people calling themselves "adults" or "mature", only to go on complaining about a bad decision they made.

Being an "adult" or "mature" means accepting responsibility. Responsibility is defined on Wikitionary as: The state of being responsible, accountable, or answerable. That means accepting when you make a poor decision, and not complaining to others.

Even for those of you who "couldn't" get it because your parents refused you, you had a choice too. You could have chosen to persist in attempting to convince your parents. You could have made an agreement to do something in order for them to pay. But you didn't.

Frankly, I don't see any reason for anyone, aside from those who live where they had no access to any of the payment options, to have not gotten the Bonus Mission Pack without having made a conscious decision.

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Even for those of you who "couldn't" get it because your parents refused you, you had a choice too. You could have chosen to persist in attempting to convince your parents. You could have made an agreement to do something in order for them to pay. But you didn't.
You made some good points until this comment, When I was young and my Parents said NO there was no asking them a 2nd or 3rd time, no meant no, for you to say they should have begged there parents/cut a deal until they got it was Ridiculous, if these kids parents told them no, it meant no.

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
You made some good points until this comment, When I was young and my Parents said NO there was no asking them a 2nd or 3rd time, no meant no, for you to say they should have begged there parents/cut a deal until they got it was Ridiculous, if these kids parents told them no, it meant no.

That's true, my parent was the same way. I couldn't blame Anet for that either, that's the way it goes sometimes when you're growing up.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by trobinson97
That's true, my parent was the same way. I couldn't blame Anet for that either, that's the way it goes sometimes when you're growing up.
And thats life - an epic struggle for ultimate victory that leads only to the road of nowhere...sadly

Ember010

Ember010

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/

Slightly different when discussing an issue and people who have no authority to say no are saying it.

(that might have made sense, its late.. lol)

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ember010
Slightly different when discussing an issue and people who have no authority to say no are saying it.
this is a forum - where discussion and opinions are there.
where is the "no authority" sign?

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ember010
Slightly different when discussing an issue and people who have no authority to say no are saying it.

(that might have made sense, its late.. lol)
I hear you, but conversely:

Slightly different when discussing an issue and people who have no authority to say yes are saying it.

It's a discussion of an issue that some are for, and some are against. If you are equating the expression of opinion to having some type of authority to officially deny another person then I'd say you reading too much into it. Everyone (mostly everyone, some are only interested in calling names) are expressing opinions on why they think it should/shouldn't be sold separately. No one is assuming any mantle of authority (I don't think so anyway).

Stockholm

Stockholm

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by holababe
I am well aware of this. This does not, however, qualify as online fraud in the sense we were discussing, since it does not occur "online".

I was referring to information stolen when people attempt to purchase something online or are fooled by phishing sites/emails.
I was just pointing out that using your CC in a store is not safer than using it online, since many has stated that they are afraid of online hacks/scams.

Dev121

Dev121

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Honestly, even if I am one of the ranters I know when this should be closed. Its really going nowhere.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
Honestly, even if I am one of the ranters I know when this should be closed. Its really going nowhere.
Well I may not agree with anything else you have to say in this thread but yeah I agree with this.

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
Well I may not agree with anything else you have to say in this thread but yeah I agree with this.
WHY TAKE A DIG AT ME WHEN IM BEING REASONABLE. @$$

gone

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Join Date: Jan 2007

as with all good things, alas, they never last. with that said, I offer this(to those that need it) as a parting gift.


jezz

jezz

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Join Date: Sep 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
Well I may not agree with anything else you have to say in this thread but yeah I agree with this.
i think some maybe expecting a response from Anet on the issue..but then again maybe nothing needs to be said..and the Promotion is over and that is that.
people need to just move on to other things..there are still plenty of other cool weapon skins out there and greens to farm. if you really want to see the cinemas try utube..i am sure there are some there already.

if it ends up being free or sold instore at a later date...we who have participated in their Promotion will have to except it.

though i cant see them doing it for obvious reasons already stated a zillion times..

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

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R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jezz
i think some maybe expecting a response from Anet on the issue..but then again maybe nothing needs to be said..and the Promotion is over and that is that.
people need to just move on to other things..there are still plenty of other cool weapon skins out there and greens to farm. if you really want to see the cinemas try utube..i am sure there are some there already.

if it ends up being free or sold instore at a later date...we who have participated in their Promotion will have to except it.

though i cant see them doing it for obvious reasons already stated a zillion times..

Right here is a response from A-nets rep
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10216946

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
You made some good points until this comment, When I was young and my Parents said NO there was no asking them a 2nd or 3rd time, no meant no, for you to say they should have begged there parents/cut a deal until they got it was Ridiculous, if these kids parents told them no, it meant no.
Just a question though, how exactly would they get Guild Wars in the first place?
  1. Did they pay for it with their own money
  2. Was it a gift?
  3. Did it just miraculously appear?
  4. Or did their parents pay for it?
  1. Maybe they could have paid for it.
  2. Unless they can get their parents on the "but uncle Steve did it, and he's so much cooler" argument, oh well.
  3. Pray?
  4. My previous statement stands.

I didn't mention it before, but I guess I should now; They could have figured out a way to get money themselves. Go out and do something for someone. Mow some lawns, shovel snow, clean gutters, whatever. There was a time when that's what children did when they wanted to buy something, instead of just relying on their parents.

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Just a question though, how exactly would they get Guild Wars in the first place?
  1. Did they pay for it with their own money
  2. Was it a gift?
  3. Did it just miraculously appear?
  4. Or did their parents pay for it?
  1. Maybe they could have paid for it.
  2. Unless they can get their parents on the "but uncle Steve did it, and he's so much cooler" argument, oh well.
  3. Pray?
  4. My previous statement stands.

I didn't mention it before, but I guess I should now; They could have figured out a way to get money themselves. Go out and do something for someone. Mow some lawns, shovel snow, clean gutters, whatever. There was a time when that's what children did when they wanted to buy something, instead of just relying on their parents.
New age, would you send your 12 year old soon to clean gutters? (LOOL) Im guessing you would, /FAIL PARENT.

d03n3rfr1tz3

d03n3rfr1tz3

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Chemnitz (Germany)

MfK

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Did anyone know, that we germans only can buy in the onlinestore with CC? And that many germans don't have a CC? no? gz.. welcome to reality
We don't have the option for a debit card... or something else..

and yes.. we tried to advise it many times. Before months... No wait, one year ago.

ps: my english is not very good... i know

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by d03n3rfr1tz3
Did anyone know, that we germans only can buy in the onlinestore with CC? And that many germans don't have a CC? no? gz.. welcome to reality
We don't have the option for a debit card... or something else..

and yes.. we tried to advise it many times. Before months... No wait, one year ago.

ps: my english is not very good... i know
Your english is better than some:

E.G LOVITAR....

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
New age, would you send your 12 year old soon to clean gutters? (LOOL) Im guessing you would, /FAIL PARENT.
Any parent that lets a 12 year old play a game rated for TEEN is a FAILED PARENT

Dev121

Dev121

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Any parent that lets a 12 year old play a game rated for TEEN is a FAILED PARENT
UK = 12 Rating.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
New age, would you send your 12 year old soon to clean gutters? (LOOL) Im guessing you would, /FAIL PARENT.
Those are examples. There are still many jobs out there for 12 year olds.

The promotion started in July and ended in October. That covers Summer Break for most children. Last time I checked, there are a good number of things you can do during that time to earn money.

Cuthroat Dibbler

Cuthroat Dibbler

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Lore School

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It is a strange irony that a product was offered to the Customers of a game whose age group is by and large, below credit card holding age, in a store (online) that required the explicit use of a Credit Card to acquire the goods. This seemingly ignores any concerns any parent would have when their child asks for such a thing. And if the parent isnt techno savvy etc and is cautious of online transactions, then its a downhill track for the child that wants to buy into the product isnt it?

It strikes me that as a Commercial decision, theres a few flaws in there that could quite easily have been avoided or some things better executed, not only to benefit the customer base but also the relationship that exists between Supplier and Customer.

The scratch card "ingame credit" card strikes me as one of the better ways to allow 'anyone' access to the online store via their retail store. One product is provided by ANet..the scratch card (limiting costs) and this in turn can buy any of the available purchase option in the online store. Acts like a Top Up card or they can be one shot deals. Cost dependent.

All that said though... some things like Promotions and say, Divine Aura, should maintain a certain specialness, just that they shouldn't be limited (in availability - at their given date of release) by silly factors as the inability to pay via CC due to being underage.

Stockholm

Stockholm

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
UK = 12 Rating.
Well, no one in the UK can come and say that they can not get a debit or prepaid card since you guy's where one of the first countrys to have check cards and prepaid cards. I know because I lived in England in the 80's and 90's.

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Well, no one in the UK can come and say that they can not get a debit or prepaid card since you guy's where one of the first countrys to have check cards and prepaid cards. I know because I lived in England in the 80's and 90's.
This thread= Fail
Doesnt matter anymore.

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

I'll sign if everyone agrees to let people without divine aura buy it from the online store and the weapons are blue to remind the bmp disadvantaged about their choices. Could just see some of you staring at you're inventory contemplating suicide and how dirty you feel for not having a pure gold weapon.

Wait - then they would be a thread like this:


Quote:
"Pentition to make bmp weapons gold"

"Hi I think bmp weapons should be gold because I dont use collector weapons and I feel degraded. Feeling like this effects the way I play pve and my general feeling about GW in general. If anet does not make this happen then it will show their utter contempt towards us people that choose to buy Gwen for the box. I need the box and gold weapons because to me thats Guild Wars! So tell me what you think.

/sign

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
This thread= Fail
Doesnt matter anymore.
agreed.
ive already said /close on like page 17 or something

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vl Vl D
I'll sign if everyone agrees to let people without divine aura buy it from the online store and the weapons are blue to remind the bmp disadvantaged about their choices. Could just see some of you staring at you're inventory contemplating suicide and how dirty you feel for not having a pure gold weapon.

Wait - then they would be a thread like this:
Why would I need gold. Online penis extension?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
Your english is better than some:

E.G LOVITAR....
at least no person can fault you for lack of being consistant

rude...........a given

insulting......the gold standard

having no idea how the industry actually works..........only our 9th circuit has been overturned more

i honestly find you amusing

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
at least no person can fault you for lack of being consistant

rude...........a given

insulting......the gold standard

having no idea how the industry actually works..........only our 9th circuit has been overturned more

i honestly find you amusing
'I honestly find you amusing'

Rude would be arguing peoples post with no insight onto their opinions, just bad punctuation.

Industry works? Sorry I dont look into the process of selling games and such.


GOLD STANDARD FTW

<3 Lovitar

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
Why would I need gold. Online penis extension?
Why would you need a box.Online penis extension?

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vl Vl D
Why would you need a box.Online penis extension?
It wouldnt be online WOULD IT.

/WINTHREADAND/CLOSE/PLZ

Loki Seiguro

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Join Date: Jun 2006

IGN: Scarlet Test Ace

We play Isketch in [HoH]

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i would sign this...only cuase i totally forgot about it and im sure most people did too. So if anet decided to sell it they would earn quite a bit of money imo

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
hehe, I actually agree with a lot of what you've said here too, I like your mild humorous flame fest too

I found a nice picture that I'm convinced is Rahja in real life (Since he likes to post the cry baby thing):



/wave to Rahja everyone.
Thanks for the personal attacks. Your so awesome, I aspire to one day be a complete asshole just like you.

This thread /fails.