BMP sell seperate petition.

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
/signed

Would have got it, if there was something in the shop worth buying. But as it was, it wasn't worth buying two character slots that I didn't need, when they wouldn't even really tell us what was in the pack.
An example of a deceptive marketing method to be honest. Promoting an item whilst witholding information regarding the promotion is deception. Also, I am quite shocked at the non signers here. However I do believe ANET have made another fiasco out of things. And really it hurts their business more than anything else. Dissatisfied customer leads to disloyalty, and therefore, loss of future sales.

I can understand why most who have the bonus pack does not want it to be sold seperately - they feel they will have been ripped off for spending money on things they did not need such as extra useless character slots.

Quite simply, ANET should have ran a similar promotion for retailers where the pricing could be made in such fashion as to make people opt to buy online rather than retail. However, the real emphasis is on those who did not have viable methods of purchasing GWEN or for that matter, any other GW product online. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone has or is able to access credit cards (by hook or by crook).

It is amazingly ignorant of ANET in their marketing. They basically were competing with their retailers and bringing in direct revenues by this online promotion. As is the case however, publishers/developers that try to axe away at their retailer market often end up chopping their own feet.

/signed

iriyabran

iriyabran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[Lord]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
/notsigned...

Your moronic faults because you didn't go get a prepaid credit card with enough cash on it to buy GW:EN for the pack so stop complaining already. It is your fault you don't have it and I hope the people that are complaining that they don't have it don't get it.
ooh and while we're at it why not go live in another country to be able to get a game bonus pack
sure why not?

sorry but you're obviously a rich ignorant selfish brat whose only worry is ruining other peoples' fun

screw the pack i don't care
anet gave a lot of us the finger but people who post such things..
grow up... please

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaal 84
It strikes me as odd that people without the means of a credit card, or those who had the desire to own the box are moronic or stupid.
they aren't, they chose a box instead of trying to qualify for the bonus.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaal 84
I appreciate that it was a promotion for the online store, but i can't understand why those people who were able to buy online appear to not want this available for the masses.
see the problem there is(for what it's worth), it WAS available for the masses.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaal 84
In my opinion you didn't pay for the BMP, you paid for GW:EN (or extra character slots, game of the year edition, etc). I also paid for GW:EN but in a shop. That doesn't mean i'm any less devoted to GW because i didn't run to daddy asking for his credit card. This whole thing is a farse. Through what ever means we have all payed for the game. We should all be entitiled to all of the game content.
It's not about devotion. it's about complying and qualifying.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Muhkuh
/signed

so I didnt use the online store(still I bought eotn)
why cant I get the stuff then? anet fail less pls
Because the BMP is a bonus for using the online store?

That's the sole reason for its existance. I bought 3 character slots to qualify, and, as it turns out, I actually used them and was satisfied with my purchase. The BMP is icing on the cake.

I have no problem with the BMP being offered again (same conditions), or parhaps even offered on the online store for $10 - $20 (seems fair, since you are not getting anything else with it); but I expect it would remain exclusive to the online store as its purpose is to drive awareness of that feature.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by iriyabran
sorry but you're obviously a rich ignorant selfish brat whose only worry is ruining other peoples' fun
Quote:
Originally Posted by iriyabran
grow up... please
lolwut
/notsigned

bpphantom

bpphantom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canukistan

The Eyes of Ashtabula [Eyes]

Nope. Lots of opportunity. Brick and mortar FTL.

Toutatis

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

/signed

I qualified for the BMP, and it's a fun addition to GW (I haven't had this much fun since Gate of Desolation). The people who missed out on the promotion would enjoy the BMP too, and adding it to the in-game store would help generate some extra revenue for ANet... I don't see why it wouldn't be a win-win situation to make the BMP available for purchase.

Tengu Man

Tengu Man

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorgy
why didn't you do it?
I bought Gwen at store
I do not need any additionnal character slot
I unlocked everything
I thought it was a special offer : You can get the mission pack free until end of october and then you have to pay for it. I thought wrong ...
I'm not the kind of personn who buys cereal only for the toy inside it.

So /signed and ready to pay for it, but it won't be a matter if I can't get the BMP.

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

/signed

i have it, its great and others should be able to play it too. Only should be availible through the store though to save anet some money to make gw2 better still

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

ALso i think price should be about 15-20 bucks, high maybe but it will make people actually pay attention next time and only the people that really want it will buy it

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fowlero
i don't know of anyway not requiring a credit card no

And zorgy, i live at my school. They allow me access to the internet and electricity.
So a paypal debit card wouldn't work? Not being funny, just asking.

Melinda1984

Melinda1984

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

south wales (uk)

Welsh Chicks of Chaos (WCC)

E/Mo

i agree that everyone has payed for the game and should be entitled to the bmp but it was an online promotion

similar to car insurers offering 10% discount if you buy online

the conditions of the extra content was clearly stated and this wasn't an expansion this was a promotional online offer

that's like saying that eBay should have stores on the high street so people who cant buy online can use them too

i hope I'm getting what I'm trying to say across

basically i agree that Anet could of handled their promo offer better and made it available to a larger audience etc etc but at the end of the day the offer has now finished and if it was made available in stores or even free in a few months all those people that payed the online store prices just to get the offer would be the ones to loose out

it was stated LIMITED so lots of people bent over backwards to get it and if they were to sell it in the stores or separately now it would be cheating those who went to the trouble to qualify

I'm fine with it being made available in stores or separately but only if the people who went to the trouble to qualify are some how compensated

i mean some people bought game content and character slots they didn't need or already had and that's where i see the unfairness of selling it separately after the offer has finished

i didn't get it and would love to have it but not at the expense of lots of other players

Stamp

Stamp

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

In your base, ganking your lord

Sailing Along on the Failboat (siNk)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
ALso i think price should be about 15-20 bucks, high maybe but it will make people actually pay attention next time and only the people that really want it will buy it
This makes no sense... You had to spend $30 in the online store to qualify for it, so why charge half that to sell it separately? If that is done, then I'm sure many people who spent the money in the online store would feel greatly ripped off, and ANET would have to do something to compensate for that.

As for the topic.. I'd have to say /notsigned. I can see from both sides of the fence, however the promotion was available from July 5 to Oct 31. That's a full four months. And don't give me the whole "you live at home with your mum" or whatever, because I've lived on my own for 7 years, and have supported myself rather easily during that time. It's not difficult if you can manage your money.

I personally had gotten 1 or 2 extra character slots just because I needed the storage space (wtb extra storage slots in the chests?) and then got EotN through the online store as well. So I was way over the $30 anyways. I would've much rather have had the actual game & disc to go with the other 3 CEs I already have, but I chose to get it in the online store in order to qualify.

(I will feel bad for the people who didn't start playing until AFTER this promotion expired though, but perhaps what they don't know won't hurt them?)

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by trobinson97
So a paypal debit card wouldn't work? Not being funny, just asking.
Sadly not, my bank doesn't allow me a credit or debit card til i'm 18.

Edit, i may have misunderstood as i'm not entirely sure what a paypal debit card is, could you elaborate? It the same as straight up paypal?

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stamp
This makes no sense... You had to spend $30 in the online store to qualify for it, so why charge half that to sell it separately? If that is done, then I'm sure many people who spent the money in the online store would feel greatly ripped off, and ANET would have to do something to compensate for that.

As for the topic.. I'd have to say /notsigned. I can see from both sides of the fence, however the promotion was available from July 5 to Oct 31. That's a full four months. And don't give me the whole "you live at home with your mum" or whatever, because I've lived on my own for 7 years, and have supported myself rather easily during that time. It's not difficult if you can manage your money.

I personally had gotten 1 or 2 extra character slots just because I needed the storage space (wtb extra storage slots in the chests?) and then got EotN through the online store as well. So I was way over the $30 anyways. I would've much rather have had the actual game & disc to go with the other 3 CEs I already have, but I chose to get it in the online store in order to qualify.

(I will feel bad for the people who didn't start playing until AFTER this promotion expired though, but perhaps what they don't know won't hurt them?)

Did I miss something or was the $30 not for the bonus pack but for whatever else was bought. In other words, the bonus pack did not cost $30. GWEN and character slot purchase may have but not certainly the bonus pack.

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stamp
This makes no sense... You had to spend $30 in the online store to qualify for it, so why charge half that to sell it separately? If that is done, then I'm sure many people who spent the money in the online store would feel greatly ripped off, and ANET would have to do something to compensate for that.

As for the topic.. I'd have to say /notsigned. I can see from both sides of the fence, however the promotion was available from July 5 to Oct 31. That's a full four months. And don't give me the whole "you live at home with your mum" or whatever, because I've lived on my own for 7 years, and have supported myself rather easily during that time. It's not difficult if you can manage your money.

I personally had gotten 1 or 2 extra character slots just because I needed the storage space (wtb extra storage slots in the chests?) and then got EotN through the online store as well. So I was way over the $30 anyways. I would've much rather have had the actual game & disc to go with the other 3 CEs I already have, but I chose to get it in the online store in order to qualify.

(I will feel bad for the people who didn't start playing until AFTER this promotion expired though, but perhaps what they don't know won't hurt them?)
No it makes sense as its not 1/2 price of what you paid cause it was there to promote gwen more than anything else. People who bought gwen at b&m places would already have paid for the game (40 bucks) and they would be paying 20 more for the bmp. You didnt pay 30 bucks for the BMP, you paid 30bucks for everything else and teh BMP was tossed in for free, There is a big difference.

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

hmm is it just me or ppl who have the bmp unlocked and are posting here against the seperate selling are acting like snobs? Just pushing off ppl and guarding their precious ability to acsess the mission packs and saying stuff like "don't whine" or "too l8" or similar.

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Melinda1984
i agree that everyone has payed for the game and should be entitled to the bmp but it was an online promotion

similar to car insurers offering 10% discount if you buy online

the conditions of the extra content was clearly stated and this wasn't an expansion this was a promotional online offer

that's like saying that eBay should have stores on the high street so people who cant buy online can use them too

i hope I'm getting what I'm trying to say across

basically i agree that Anet could of handled their promo offer better and made it available to a larger audience etc etc but at the end of the day the offer has now finished and if it was made available in stores or even free in a few months all those people that payed the online store prices just to get the offer would be the ones to loose out

it was stated LIMITED so lots of people bent over backwards to get it and if they were to sell it in the stores or separately now it would be cheating those who went to the trouble to qualify

I'm fine with it being made available in stores or separately but only if the people who went to the trouble to qualify are some how compensated

i mean some people bought game content and character slots they didn't need or already had and that's where i see the unfairness of selling it separately after the offer has finished

i didn't get it and would love to have it but not at the expense of lots of other players
Unfortunately, those who /sign-ing now would be pretty pissed if those who actually did go through the promotion were compensated with something

ArenaNet will never make anyone entirely happy.

bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

/not signed

You had 4? months to get 29$ to spend in the store.. you could've even bought EOTN online and gotten it.. but nope.. Toobad. :P

Melinda1984

Melinda1984

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

south wales (uk)

Welsh Chicks of Chaos (WCC)

E/Mo

at the end of the day this isnt about payment options as anet really need to add more payment options to their online store anyway

this is about should or should not the BMP be sold separately in stores or online?

if they were planning on selling it separately after the offer finished they should never have advertised it as LIMITED and as they have then they should not change their minds now to be fair to the player that believed that this was a limited time only offer

and when i say compensated i mean the people who bought content they didn't need just to get the BMP they should be compensated for the price of the contend they already had not the price of the BMP (at the price they decided to sell it at or extra slots as they will probably be used at some point)

i mean the people that bought campaigns or GW,EN when they already had it
to get the BMP

i didnt get it although i do have a credit card and started playing a month before the offer finished
the only one to blame for me not getting it is the fact that its nearly christmas and im spending all my spare cash on christmas for my kids therefore it was down to my situation not anet

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
No it makes sense as its not 1/2 price of what you paid cause it was there to promote gwen more than anything else. People who bought gwen at b&m places would already have paid for the game (40 bucks) and they would be paying 20 more for the bmp. You didnt pay 30 bucks for the BMP, you paid 30bucks for everything else and teh BMP was tossed in for free, There is a big difference.
Sorry but your wrong. Some of us bought 3 character slots ONLY to qualify for the BMP. So yeah we did pay 30 bucks only for the BMP

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tengu Man
I bought Gwen at store.
Why?
you could have bought it online. If you wanted the box, then you have the box, end of story. You made a choice to buy that, even thought they advertized way in advance that you could have bought it online and received the BMP. Now you realize it was a bad choice. So why should they change everything for you?

It's a BONUS PROMOTION. Why should they change it to a "GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING JUST CUZ YOU WANT IT"?

Quote:
Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I
Sorry but your wrong. Some of us bought 3 character slots ONLY to qualify for the BMP. So yeah we did pay 30 bucks only for the BMP
So they didn't give you any character slots? Cuz... that's the product you bought.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

-out of the blue
If it is made available via any other means(manual input code keys) the scammers, thieves and what have ye will reap the rewards, not anet.

I was iffy at first of auto activated keys but the more i see it working, the more i'm starting to see the master plan.

Divine Slaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Young Money Merger [YM]

Mo/

/notsigned

This promotion went on for 4 months. During these 4 months Anet clearly stated that the BMP included 4 new missions and new unique items. For some reason I feel if the BMP turned out to be complete rubbish, the people that didn't qualify for the BMP would be laughing at us right now.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by the Puppeteer
hmm is it just me or ppl who have the bmp unlocked and are posting here against the seperate selling are acting like snobs? Just pushing off ppl and guarding their precious ability to acsess the mission packs and saying stuff like "don't whine" or "too l8" or similar.
I have the BMP and don't feel that way. I was able to take advantage of the offer that others may have not. If people are allowed to obtain it in an alternate method I would be all for it.

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I
Sorry but your wrong. Some of us bought 3 character slots ONLY to qualify for the BMP. So yeah we did pay 30 bucks only for the BMP
No im not wrong at all, you bought the char slots not the mini pack. Its called a bonus for a reason... You may say im splitting hairs with semantics but im not. Im just telling you what you paid for and that the bonus pack was indeed a bonus and nothing more. If you cant see what im trying to say maybe some one else can be more clear. (i understand what you are saying, the bmp is why i bought gwen online as well instead of B&M)

Stranger The Ranger

Stranger The Ranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Those Netherlands

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

R/

/signed

and yes, I'm another QQ'er

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
No im not wrong at all, you bought the char slots not the mini pack. Its called a bonus for a reason... You may say im splitting hairs with semantics but im not. Im just telling you what you paid for and that the bonus pack was indeed a bonus and nothing more. If you cant see what im trying to say maybe some one else can be more clear. (i understand what you are saying, the bmp is why i bought gwen online as well instead of B&M)
I agree, and I'll try to back you up:

If the BMP goes on sale by itself for $15 (example), to me, that's a fair price.

After all, I got the BMP and 3 character slots for $30. It doesn't matter if I wanted the slots or not, that's what I got.

So, if someone just gets the BMP only for $15, that seems fair, especially considering they will get it later than me.

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
I have the BMP and don't feel that way. I was able to take advantage of the offer that others may have not. If people are allowed to obtain it in an alternate method I would be all for it.
I think that the people that missed the time frame (for what ever reason) should be able to get into it now too, or atleast at some point. THe more the merrier i say.

edit: my god what bad grammer i had in this post lol

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

/notsigned. as stated before, you knew the rules.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I already got the BMP, but I think other people should also be given the opportunity.

Why?

1.) Because many wanted, but had no credit card and stuff like that. The promised improved payment options have not been implemented so far.

2.) It is just cruel.


Yes, it is cruel to ruin the fountain square in Lion's Arch with a historian and his 3 little helpers and show the poor guys who did not get the pack the skins they will NEVER get because the promotion is over.


Just charge them totally overpriced (yes, the BMP is not that much) 10-15 bucks, make some cash this way and those who really need it can still buy it. Plus the online store gets some more reason to exist.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I agree, and I'll try to back you up:

If the BMP goes on sale by itself for $15 (example), to me, that's a fair price.

After all, I got the BMP and 3 character slots for $30. It doesn't matter if I wanted the slots or not, that's what I got.

So, if someone just gets the BMP only for $15, that seems fair, especially considering they will get it later than me.
I agree completely with this, people that bought on the online store (whatever they bought) probably wouldn't have done so if the BMP wasnt there. So it's more than reasonable that those who didn't within the promotional period should meet a modest fee.

I just hope to be able to get it in a few weeks once i can get a credit/debit card.

Melinda1984

Melinda1984

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

south wales (uk)

Welsh Chicks of Chaos (WCC)

E/Mo

Anet could bring out a special edition of eye of the north in stores that comes with the BMP but there are people that payed over the odds (you gotta admit that the online store is more expensive than high street stores) because it was an online offer only

if they could of gotten a special GWEN with BMP in the stores I'm sure they would have but no they were told it was a limited time only online promotion so payed the silly prices (£24.99) that the online store is asking instead of popping down the high street and picking it up for £15.99 (high street store price is just an example of my local area please don't go flaming me because your area has different prices)

yes the people who bought extra character slots got something for their money besides the BMP but what about the people that bought GWEN when they already had it just to get the BMP?

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

W/

I had to pay extra, considering GWEN was $10 cheaper at any B&M store and I had to pay the extra amount for the exchange rate @_@

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

None of the whiners wanted the bmp until......... they saw the new weapons! THEN the crying started.

KANE

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

Its cheaper for me to buy online than buying from a store...

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

it should be sold seprate

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

eh?no.

A:It was free.
B:You had long enough to get it.
C:You want the box? /sigh why?
D:The QQ isnt funny anymore - stop it.
E:The majority of people have credit cards - why,for online purchasing,not carrying tons of cash around,for the reason of seeing something you like going "Oooh,i like that!" buying it and feeling happy.
F:You had long enough to get it.(i repeat!!)
G:It started when the new weapons came out
H:It's called "Promotion" for a reason,to use the online store.


See where im coming from?
Welcome to Life:Life isn't fair.

EDIT:also,character slots can be used for PvP characters so less rerolling

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

/not signed

It was a promotion for the online store, and the extra money A-net saved on not having to pay the retailers 50% of the store price, paid for the BMP.
This was a experiment to see how to distrubute GW2, and those who used the online store got rewarded.

It was there for everyone too get.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
1.) Because many wanted, but had no credit card and stuff like that. The promised improved payment options have not been implemented so far.
Actually, they didn't promise anything but they did, in fact, add more payment methods during that time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
2.) It is just cruel.
This is the reason that I say /notsigned
if people can't get over the fact that not everything goes their way, they are in for a shock called life. You can't use "it makes me feel sad because I can't have what I want" as an excuse to just get things.

If they make the BMP $15 in the online store that might not be a bad price but the whole point of having a limited time period is to make it special. That's why I can't get a Tengu mask, or some people can't get a pumpkin crown. They missed it, oh well. Why can't ANET make special things that are limited? Why?