HM Spectral Vaettir (Glacial Stones mainly)

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Whats everyones fasted time running there? My fastest according to /age was 3 minutes.

Maverick2201

Maverick2201

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
Hey, love the farm been doing it for a while today. Was curious, how much do you sell your stones for and about how long does it take you? It takes me maybe 8-10 minutes to clear the whole area (all 60) and I sold my first batch in Sifhalla for 25k (1 month ago) and my most recent batch in Droknar's Forge for an R9 Gold Darkwing Defender.

Trinity Blade

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Netherlands

The Guild With No [NAM???]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
You can get around 144k xp an hour on this without scrolls. Since you take no damage, this would be a good place to farm for legendary survivor. No dont, seriously; ANY kind of ini-mini lag can interupt your string, and it will cause you to die; another thing; one mistake will get you killed; with a normal character it would be no problem (you can go up to 30% DP I tried) but for Legendary Survivor hunters..

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

pfft who gets lag anymore?

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
pfft who gets lag anymore? People. Real ones. With hair and all that stuff...

Mr Emu

Mr Emu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/A

fastest run time is 2 minutes
I can clear all 60 in just over 4 minutes
oh, and i get lag

NuclearDope

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

60?! how come i only see 36? and i do this alot

misha

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

Antwerp

HoTR

Rt/Mo

you have a quest active that causes half of them to not spawn.
(can't tell which quest..isn't it a nornbear one ??)

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

You can easily get body blocked by these boogers, I have found if you zig zag perpendicular to them that you are less likely to get body blocked and able to get the entire side you are working on. Approx 4-5 mins is a run as long as I dont get body blocked, if you get headed off prior to gathering a side it takes a bit longer. As for a mistake, really you have to be most careful with Stoneflesh Aura. You can live with them getting a couple hexes through, but if you drop Stoneflesh while the entire side is on you, you will die in approx 1-2 seconds. So typically if you are going to sacrifice 1 skill for the other, remember that while Obs Flesh keeps the hexes off you, you should be able to live through Conjure and the other degen hex while more than a second or 2 of no Stoneflesh means insta death if you have the entire side on you.

NuclearDope

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by misha
you have a quest active that causes half of them to not spawn.
(can't tell which quest..isn't it a nornbear one ??) Thank you Misha, i'll clear my log, wow i thought this was profitable before

Demanz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

England

LasT

A/

Can somebody post a map please, i seem to get like 20-30 kills then have to rezone?

Build works like a dream, Thanks alot

absolutcrobi

absolutcrobi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Naked Pagans

Rt/Me

Are you doing it in hard mode, and do you have blood washes blood active?

Aman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

...

Warriors of Narsil

R/Mo

can someone tell me how to use the build i keep dieing

i even watched the video couple of times

Tripolityx

Tripolityx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

+2 GMT

WTB Q9 20/20 Bo Staves

R/

Hard to say on what you die. If you let Obsidian Flesh down? Stoneflesh Aura down? If it's cause of those are going down you need the 20% longer enchantment weapon. It's just must so you are able to keep up the enchies 24/7 up. If you take too much dmg after having those up it's cause of your equipments. 10 armor vs earth-shield helps you a lot. Etc what you can just figure out of your armor.
And btw nice bump lol

~Tripolityx~

absolutcrobi

absolutcrobi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Naked Pagans

Rt/Me

As long as you have 16 earth magic, 5 geomancer's insignias, armor with 60AL and you keep mantra of earth, obsidian flesh and stoneflesh aura up at all times you should be completely invincible to the vaettirs.


How are you dying? Getting hit with hexes or damage?

Haxor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Legion of the Feng Huang [ASH]

You don't even need Geomancer's. Just make sure you cast Mantra before Stoneflesh, and you'll be fine.

Aman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

...

Warriors of Narsil

R/Mo

i get hexed and my health starts regeen


ok can someone just give me the low down like what to use first and then what because i might be using them out of order. and when do i use crystal wave?

Tripolityx

Tripolityx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

+2 GMT

WTB Q9 20/20 Bo Staves

R/

You get hexed and you start to degen out. That means your enchies are not up. Means at least your Obsidian Flesh (Elite) is down. You should not get anykind of spells to you if you maintain your elite.

So check you have 16 earth magic. +1 earth magic headpiece and +3 earth magic rune. Then once again check you have 20% longer enchantment weapon. If all these conditions has been taken care of you should be fine.

It does not matter in which order you maintain your spells / mantra of earth when you just maintain those all the time (24/7). Crystal wave is dmg skill so use it when you have time to cause some damage to the foes. After dmg given focus back again to your enchantments which keeps you alive.

~Tripolityx~

TalanRoarer

TalanRoarer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Manchester, England

Gil Worz Is Srs [Bsns]

N/A

The reason why people are getting 36 instead of 60 will be because you have Blood Washes Blood active [ i think its that one] oh and if someone already posted this.. meh (:

absolutcrobi

absolutcrobi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Naked Pagans

Rt/Me

Ok here is what you do:

Cast mantra of earth
cast glyph of swiftness, then obsidian flesh then stone flesh aura
when stone flesh recharges cast it again, when obsidian flesh is almost recharged, cast glyph of swiftness then obsidian flesh. the key is to ALWAYS cast the glyph before obsidian, and to make sure you have 16 earth magic and a +20% enchanting weapon.
keep the mantra up at all times as well.


as far as the offensive side of things, here is how i do it. I cast arcane echo, then crystal wave, then the other spell just like it(i forget the name right now and im too tired to look it up) then the echo'd crystal wave. by now you should have to re-cast stoneflech and obsidian flesh(after glyph of swiftness) wait until the crystal wave and the other recharge and use them once more each. bringin you two 5 toal hits. then cast arcane echo and then sliver armor.

Snorph

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Riverside,Ca

Kings Of Heaven And Earth

E/Me

First off I can't get this to work at all it seems, I have the skill bar as follows
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I have 13 Earth, for some reason i cannot go any higher, I have all pieces with AL vs Earth Elemental Damage, 73 Energy, and using a earth staff 20/20/20 +1 Earth on head piece.

In NM and HM I cast in order and I can't seem to keep up my HP and Energy, what the heck am I doing wrong?

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

You need to add a rune of Superior Earth Magic to your headpiece. That will give you 12+1+3 = 16. For other runes you will need a Minor Air Magic and a Superior Vigor. The last runes can be either Attunement or Vitae.

Don't try to farm the vaettir in NM. You need to be in HM, because there are more vaettir and they attack faster, giving you more energy from Mantra of Earth. The hits you take as you move around gathering up the vaettir should give you enough energy to keep going until you're surrounded, at which point you should have far more energy coming in than you can use.

But energy is usually a little tight while you're gathering aggro, so you can't afford to waste any. When you say you are casting the skills "in order", do you mean in the order shown on your bar? If so, that is not really helping. You shouldn't be using Mantra every time you go through the cycle, since that's a waste of energy. It's a long-lasting stance, so stick it at the end of the bar and renew it as needed so that it's up full time. Put up OF and SFA only when you are ready to start gathering aggro.

Sliver Armor is not a very good choice in a farming build these days, as it usually causes far too much scatter since it was nerfed. When they scatter, they aren't hitting you, and you get no energy from them.

I would suggest trying OgVTMY0kYKbYJiF0GU6Tb4ryAA.

The virtues of this build are that it doesn't cause scatter, and Inspiration Magic is maxed so that Mantra lasts longer and prevents more damage. You don't need to put anything into Energy Storage. Maintain the last three skills as you gather aggro. When you have a good group of vaettir adjacent to you, hit Ether Nightmare and CoP, then follow up with the two waves as a finisher. Don't be in too much of a rush. Make sure all the vaettir are in a good, tight ball around you before hitting them with Ether Nightmare.

My equipment for this build is a caster spear of Enchanting and an earth focus with Forget Me Not and a core of Endurance (+45 HP while stanced), but a focus like Hajok's Prism (green focus from Hajok Earthguardian in Yatendi Canyon) works fine as well.

Merciless Crusader

Merciless Crusader

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

Canada

The Legion Of Crusaders [OWN]

D/Rt

I use this for my E/Mes

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All Geomancers Sup Earth + Vigor, Minor ES, the rest are Attunements

Weapon of choice, Any Staff With 20%HSR-,40%HCT,20% Longer Enchantments.

3 mins tops per run, and to be honest Arcane echo,Crystal Wave and Tenai's Crystals are not really needed I rarely use them.
I usually Just Spam Wastrel's Worry on different foes as soon as they've balled around me (tab wastrel tab wastrel tab wastrel etc etc)

I suppose I could replace them with something else maybe Storm Djinn's Haste to ease the journey to them but meh I'm lazy like that

and that's all there is too it, go get em