Will Guild Wars 2 kill Guild Wars 1?

I actually really like that turn. It'll really make it interesting when we're sent to go back to Cantha.

To have no luxons or kurzicks in the sea or forest?

That makes me sad.

No more dragons in Cantha? Im sad.
No more Dredge/ etc.

Then wtf! No more Kirin?

What is the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing point in not being able to use 7 heroes? Or henchmen which dont even have elites?

I play and have ALWAYS played video games on my own. The solo experience is all that counts for me. Any game that isnt fun to play solo isnt fun anymore for me.

Maple Story I can play solo.

GW2 doesnt have to kill GW1. If ANET keeps up with the consumeables and PVE skills like Ursanway, THAT will kill the game by making the game too easy and boring.

Dont get me started on the consumables lol. Apparantly being able to use 7 heroes and your own builds is both more imbalanced and less skillfull then clearing your whole parties DP with a powerstone :-/

I dont mean any offence, but I would love to know how and why people have come to this conclusion?

I too have noticed that areas ingame are now empty, but that is the obvious result of a new campaign or expansion being released and the population shifting to those new areas. That would happen in any MMO!

I have also noticed few people PUGing, but that is due to alot of content being solo-able and most people only PUG for harder content (IMO).

But I am yet to see anything in over 2 years of playing to suggest loads more people are leaving the game then joining? Are you all seeing something I'm not! I cant say i've seen a fall in population at all and it has seemed rather steady from my eyes.

You just have to enter newbie towns to see there is a constant fresh supply of new characters being made. You only have to read the noob questions people still ask to see that new players are entering the game who has never played before.

But even if long-running players are leaving! So what? Did you honestly think people would play this game for ever? All games have a life-span and there is only so much you can do to rejuvinate a game.

But the sheer fact that constantly new people are joining every day, means this game wont die. Your talking about a game which has lasted over 2 years and still looks and plays better then most games on the market.

A game that is constantly rated as being on of the best MMO/RPGs on the market and has rave reviews and is concidered the leading competitor to WoW!

Even if Anet does stop support for the game, and stops updating it and patching it. The game will survive! Its not like we need millions of players to have an active community. There are more then enough people ingame to play with, trade with and talk to.

GW feels more like a solo RPG with a chatroom now with the massive amount of people not pugging. I can understand why no one wants to since.. well we all seen some of the pug skill bar, but still: This is a MMORPG.
And the grindfest and the time > all instead of skill > time are just too much. Whatever happened to the GW we all loved in the beginning?

I'm not sure that's fair.

Are you saying Anet should make their decisions based on who shouts the loudest when Gaile walks into town?

Sales speak for themselves. If Anet is losing money, they will change the content of the game to make it more appealing to the people who are willing to buy it. If they don't, then we all lose out.

For the record, I think Titles were added because the community wanted them. As it doesn't hurt those that don't want titles, I never understood the complaint.

Guild wars private servers, thats all i have to say.

It all depends on how good they make the weapons and items that you can 'carry over" from you GW1 account through the GWEN Hall of Heroes. If they are AMAZING weapons, armor, items, etc., then I can actually see more people playing GW1 and grinding some or all of the titles just to get the loot in GW2.

I mean, look at the BMP craze right now. People had opporutunity to buy it, and those who didn't now wish that they could go back and buy it. Why? Not for the fun of the missions, but for the cool weapons.

Truthfully, I'm quite bored with GW1. But I still play every day - and I'm going for nothing but titles. Why? I'm hoping to get some cool stuff right out of the starting blocks with GW2.

If ANet wanted to actually revive GW1 and boost sales of GW1 games, they would actually give the weapons and items brought over into GW2 a tiny boost in stats over normal GW2 weapons and items. This would actually encourage more people to buy and play GW1 as a way to improve their GW2 status and play experience.

I honestly don't see why all the armour and weapon skins from GW1 won't make it into GW2

ok, armour arts may be trouble to fit to models, but a little adaption wouldn't take long, not to mention already made hero armours for the non-human as a good start

In 250 yrs it would be out of fashion as to warriors in 9thC. wearing chainmail as to thos opposed wearing full Knight armour some xx years away.

Here is where i think your wrong. GW has an incrdible fan base, nerfed only by WoW. They have added things like the hall of monuments to give reason for long time players to keep playing. GW2 from all the reviews I have read so far should be a great combo of the original GW1 traits with a few extra additions. Why would they not model some factors after WoW, WoW is one of the biggest games ever, they most be doing something right. However on that note GW1 has always been original and will keep to that mold. They know they cant directly compete with WoW, but is it possible to creat a mix of the two games that is better than WoW? I think so and i think that is the goal of GW2. GW2's main focus has to be, at first, to bring in all there original gamers and then expand. If they fail to do that it will be the death of both games, but I dont think Anet is stupid enough not to realize that.

yes, GW2 will kill GW1, yes, you have to move on :S

As long as GW2 does well, I don't think Anet will shut down the original Guild Wars servers.

Who knows, maybe it will become a free game (free advertising for GW2)

I don't think it's so much that Guild Wars does well, just as long as it doesn't do horribly.



.....In retrospective that actually sounds like the same thing. It sounded a lot smarter in my head, at least.

I'll compromise and say "As long as GW2 does OK..."

I'd guess it really depends. If you take a look at EQ2, which has a pretty slim population, it still has its servers open. If they can have their servers open, then GW shouldn't have much problems keeping theirs open.

And ANet knows how much people love their game. If worst comes to worst, they'll incorporate an offline mode or something.

All right I'll be evil and say this... maybe we'll have another Asheron's Call and Asheron's Call 2 scenario on our hands. (I know there are a few out there who know what I'm talking about.) Maybe the original Guild Wars shouldn't be our concern here.

Oh crap, I totally forgot about that...

...but with "FREE TO PLAY" on it's box, I'd say it has a higher chance than most. That's probably why GW has been so successful.

eww offline mode...

If they continue the "free to play" Anet has my money. As a casual player I don't feel it is necessary to dish out money for a monthly fee, hence why I play GW instead of WoW or EQ.

Sure is a lot better than "shutdown mode."

Wow you outta make money as a psychic! You're gonna go down in history right up there with Nostradamus! Can I have your autograph?!?

The ability not to talk to any living characters would make it go into "shutdown mode." NPC talk is bad as it is, offline would drive me into insanity.

Yes, GW2 surely will kill GW1. GW1's graphics are already extremely painful on the eyes if you've played Oblivion or other modern games with vastly more up to date & better graphics than GW1 has. By the time GW2 comes out then GW1 will have really outdated graphics, with GW2 having modern graphics. Of course GW2 will kill GW1.

As it seems that everyone has theories about what will happen after GW2 comes out, what about we move to the next question:

Will there be a GW3 and, if so, will it kill GW2?

(in other words: stop speculating...)

What if Anet just finally just scraps GW in general after the release of GW2?
Kinda like how AC died. With the final server shutdown... There woulden't be much stoping them because it has no monthy fees.

Plus, If there ever was a great combination of skills, It's probably been nerfed.

Yep, just like AC is dead...


http://ac.turbine.com/

I can not speculate anything... i mean both can get boring and some players will prefer one and stay there, cause since they said that in GW2 there will be 100 lvl cap (or maybe more) it will be extremely boring to become a no-lifer mob killing machine to lvl up... but in GW1 it gets boring once you do lots of stuff there... so some people will prefer to play in one of those games and others will prefer to play in the other.
(Btw i was talking about PVE)

even if it is a splitting image of wow people will play gw2...simply because...its the only MMO/CORPG that doesn't have monthly fees and actually is professional.

Guildwars has been dying in a slow dramatic manner ever since the release of factions.

Releasing an expansion(sequel) without balancing the existing classes and skills was just a cunning ruse to distract the paying customers. Now with the 4th release there are too many problems with skill balance/class balance to resolve. Each of Izzy's balance updates just piss off more players.

The focus on "High level PVP" makes the game less fun for the average player. I don't think casual players want to install 3rd party VOIP programs and take orders from Build-Nazis just to play in whatever HoH is called now.

Instant gratification is what video games have always been about, not achievment. No flashy dance emoticon or impressive sounding title would get me to play ZORK.

GW2 is NC Soft's last great hope for fixing a hopelessly broken game.

Anet will have to pull the plug on GW 1 eventually or make the server code available to the public. With no revenue stream from an old game how will they justify spending sever money for no gain? Do you think the shareholders would approve?

R.I.P. GW

You mean Asheron's Call 2, not Asheron's Call. The original Asheron's Call has never had it's servers shut down. It's still alive and jumping. LONG LIVE ASHERON'S CALL.

GW=dead when gw 2 comes out

A lot of people here have ran through everything GW has to offer, and say things like "guild wars is dead to me", well, guess what: there are people who aren't 14 years old that play this game, and not everybody can play all day.

I, for one, have played GW for over a year, and am just getting into the factions campaign, because I can't play everyday. I'm just saying that those people who happen to have those opinions that there's nothing left to do in the game are not the majority. Hell, even the developers said one of the points they were stressing was the longevity of the game, where casual players can pick up the game and play if they haven't been on in a month or two. I, for one, hope they will still pay some attention to GW after 2 is released.

At least you could still play the thing.

Going to ignore the childish flame here and instead focus on the subject of active players. As has been stated, that's how many copies ANet has sold of the Guild Wars titles. Not the number of Prophecies sold, not the number of Factions sold, but *all* of them together.

That means that they are not taking into account multiple copies for one account, nor are they taking note of multiple copies owned by the same person. That means that the actual population of Guild Wars seems a lot smaller than it seems.

qft

ot: yes it will (not that there's much left of gw1 to kill, in all honesty)

Scientists say that nothing really lasts forever, not even our sun. But I'm sure Guild Wars will be up and running from this day onwards forever. The titles are truly an investment for bright future, so keep on getting and bragging about them, folks. There's no need to panic or start thinking things through rationally.

Will Guild Wars 2 kill Guild Wars 1????

I Know GW2 Kill Nothing, If no CM on game Magzine or TV in Taiwan,HK。

I Know GW2 Kill Nothing because more and more GW1 player in taiwan,HK SERVER leave GW. Nobody want to play the game if rare player play it。

Well, GW will be 'technically' alive as long as the servers keep running for players to play in. But the game is already stagnant (for a long time), if not dead, since there aren't much revolutionary changes made to the game.

The core of GW's gameplay gets stale pretty fast and character progression comes to a standstill once you hit the level cap (the latter is rather important for RPGs). Even if ANet does add new content to GW, I don't see it as a long term solution since the essential gameplay is what most tired players have gotten bored of; more professions added will also create more problems. So for GW to become refreshing again, it needs to evolve; and I'm guessing it is not possible with the current game engine (although ANet could try to make the game more rewarding but that will probably get boring fast again). PvE gameplay past completion of storyline may be boring for most since character progression isn't there and most of the endgame efforts are either converted into wealth or aesthetics; nothing really enhances the performance of your character. PvP has too little development and there are too few casual modes of play. Although some of you are probably anti-WoW players but if you see for yourself at how well PvE and PvP blends in the game now, you might be able to see how GW PvP and PvE could sit together. If PvP in GW could enable a player to benefit in PvE and vice versa, the game would perhaps be less stale. But anyway, I'd agree that there is too little development in the PvP aspects of GW especially for a game that prides itself in that area.

ANet has tried to make improvements all this while but I see GW still having room for much more. It's a shame if they decided drop future developments on the game but if they aren't able to make a profit, they can't very much keep the game alive as well.

GW:
+ interesting gameplay mechanics and concepts
+ casual-friendly
- not flashy enough
- PvE has too little variety
- PvE too tied to PvP rules (responsible for the above)
- not very rewarding
- character progression too short

Lastly, although I belong to the pessimistic bunch of GW players, I doubt GW will really 'die' as long as the servers are up and running. And I don't think GW2 will kill it. However, GW has been stagnant for too long, and that to me, is dead enough.

Just my feel.

GW2 will not kill GW1. other games will kill GW2 AND GW1...especially thinking about Diablo 3.

Today's Guild Wars lost alot of its old players and will probably lose some more when GW2 is released...but will also get the attention of new players who never even touched GW1.