It is commendable that anet tries to control the game economy and changes the game to do this. The previous change that was made to reduce the gold drops had a very positive effect on the game economy with everything becoming cheaper and more affordable to everyone. So well done and congratulations on a great game.
But you must remember that this is a game and should be treated as such I have seldom played a game without using some sort of exploit and in some cases cheats just to allow me to finish the game. Playing maybe 1 hour per day it could take me years and I would lose interest in the game.
The guys that buy in game gold are paying players of your game and no matter what their reason for buying they are doing it to get more enjoyment of your game and are investing in it so obviously it is a compliment to anet that someone is willing to invest more money in their game to make it more enjoyable to them. The guys posting in this thread about the stuff they farm and sell must remember that they sell to people that bought the gold in the first place, if people did not buy gold then a Ambrace would be worth 10k in my opinion. So you are also profiting from the gold sellers.
I have friends ingame that farmed Titan gems very successfully in the early days of DoA and sold many for 80k, today a year later they still have hundreds of Pt stored away, today a Titan gem is 7-8k, these guys sold to people that bought the money from gold traders (nobody can afford that any other way). Are you to ban them too because they profited?
The adjustments you made with the drop rates were in my opinion much more effective allowing the good players to also afford the high end stuff, this is way better than what you are achieving with these bans.
Banning Bonanza : Plz Gaile Comment = NO QQ PLS
Vanye Truelight
Drop of Fear
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Being that afraid in-game is unreasonable. People aren't getting banned like that - those that are either deserve it, or are banned by mistake.
Also, most of these "bans" are 3-day suspensions. Not perma-bans. But being that afraid is very unusual. In a serious way. |
seut
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Frequently Asked Questions is an insult now???????
So now we have to think about how it might sound if spoken out loudly, too??? |
regarding spoken out loud and misinterpretations following from this:
"ai" and "ei" are pronounced the same way in german
-> Gaile = Geile
"geil(e)" is a german adjective meaning "horny" (yes, the vulgar interpretation)
Most of Germans won't care, because it evolved into meaning "cool" as well, but the original meaning is still in use.
VitisVinifera
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For what it is worth, a quick search of four different online Polish to English dictionaries showed "dupek" (as in Dupek the Mighty) to translate to English as "asshole."
Lesson? If you're going to be vulgar, at least be obscure. |
I have ***PERSONALLY*** brought that to Gaile's attention **TWICE** and had acknowledgment both times, and she said she'd look into it.
hypocrisy
Roshi_ikkyu
So its like saying "ATM Machine"....
Well thats reason enough to ban them.
Its still second hand Q Q-ing over matters that can only be solved via contacting support.
And attempting to apply the basis of a banning bonanza, or some form of mass banning is only to get replies and play to emotions.
And for the trader who was banned, good, I hate anyone with more money then me, if he can just transfer 600k he has too much XD
Well thats reason enough to ban them.
Its still second hand Q Q-ing over matters that can only be solved via contacting support.
And attempting to apply the basis of a banning bonanza, or some form of mass banning is only to get replies and play to emotions.
And for the trader who was banned, good, I hate anyone with more money then me, if he can just transfer 600k he has too much XD
enter_the_zone
Wouldn't a query from a GM in game or via email be a logical first step. That'd stop all the "in error" bannings. Heck, even a scripted whisper and logging a non-response would be a start. Then send a scripted email and after 1 week with no response, ban the account. At least then they had a chance.
A friend of mine has been unjustly banned 3 times now, as she deals in large sums between her 3 accounts often, as well as loaning guildies/alliance members "large" sums of money.
100k is not a large sum when you charge 15k for a NM mission run....
PS Roshi, there has been a banning spree recently that has caught a lot of innocent people. 5 people in my alliance have been banned in the last week for no good reason. I'm just waiting for it to happen to me. Then I will heed the call of a certain other MMO with cartoony graphics....
A friend of mine has been unjustly banned 3 times now, as she deals in large sums between her 3 accounts often, as well as loaning guildies/alliance members "large" sums of money.
100k is not a large sum when you charge 15k for a NM mission run....
PS Roshi, there has been a banning spree recently that has caught a lot of innocent people. 5 people in my alliance have been banned in the last week for no good reason. I'm just waiting for it to happen to me. Then I will heed the call of a certain other MMO with cartoony graphics....
Rexion
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So this is only a constructive criticism about the recent banning franzy from anet.
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hypocrit much??
Roshi_ikkyu
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Wouldn't a query from a GM in game or via email be a logical first step. That'd stop all the "in error" bannings. Heck, even a scripted whisper and logging a non-response would be a start. Then send a scripted email and after 1 week with no response, ban the account. At least then they had a chance.
A friend of mine has been unjustly banned 3 times now, as she deals in large sums between her 3 accounts often, as well as loaning guildies/alliance members "large" sums of money. 100k is not a large sum when you charge 15k for a NM mission run.... PS Roshi, there has been a banning spree recently that has caught a lot of innocent people. 5 people in my alliance have been banned in the last week for no good reason. I'm just waiting for it to happen to me. Then I will heed the call of a certain other MMO with cartoony graphics.... |
If you think there good or not isn't the point, Guildwars isn't a democratic state its a dictatorship! Anet can do what ever they want. Complaining on forums does little to help.
enter_the_zone
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Very few banning are actually innocent, the OP friends name was offensive, be it a french canadian thing or not it appear offensive. 5 people banned, chances are there was atleast 3 good reasons.
If you think there good or not isn't the point, Guildwars isn't a democratic state its a dictatorship! Anet can do what ever they want. Complaining on forums does little to help. |
In general, I'd agree that out of 5, maybe 3 would be warranted, but not in these cases, since one already has both their accounts back and the other 3 are in the process of trying to get theirs back.
And Gaile reads these forums, so clearly they do care what the community thinks, and hopefully take it on board.
This is speculation, but the current banning bot/script/whatever seems to work by banning every account that has a 100k trade with no item being offered. That's just stupid...
4thVariety
From a culture that coined the phrase "sticks and stones might hurt my bones...", one would somehow expect that they are more lenient on verbal expressions, than on.. ...let's say... ...gun control?
Or to put it into (for most) unintelligible German terms:
Die größten Kritiker der Elche,
waren früher selber welche.
Rough translation:
The biggest critics of the moose,
have their heads in the same noose
Roshi_ikkyu
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Guild Wars may be a dictatorship, but I can vote with my feet and my wallet, as more than half the original players already have. Pissing off people who have already spent over £200 on your products and will spend more in future is bad business, imo.
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In general, I'd agree that out of 5, maybe 3 would be warranted, but not in these cases, since one already has both their accounts back and the other 3 are in the process of trying to get theirs back.
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The community doesn't really help in these matter every nutball and his dog adds there version of events, always leaving out the important parts, to the story.
I hope your friends get there accounts back, if there not guilty. If there guilty may the burn in a digital hell!
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And Gaile reads these forums, so clearly they do care what the community thinks, and hopefully take it on board.
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Difference is Anet can check, they know everything that goes on in the game,but isn't tempted to openly disprove lies, it also a matter of privacy.
And they do miss things because thay don't have people constantly reviewing logs for exploits and hacks.
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This is speculation, but the current banning bot/script/whatever seems to work by banning every account that has a 100k trade with no item being offered. That's just stupid...
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Speculation...?!
This is Guru!
Now you say it is stupid, but remember the out cries for anet to do something about the botter and the gold sellers... that were, are destroying the game *eye roll*.
It appears they are doing something, it not perfect but hey its a learning curve. Trading 100k for no item is kinda strange. So its not so stupid if your speculation is correct. Anet is fixing a problem.
100k for no items,that right there seem like a red flag.
DDeathblade
this is clear name rascism lol
enter_the_zone
Thing is, if it is as basic as a 100k +no item flag, botters will just switch to 80k or 50k or even 10k.
So, what, I can't lend a friend 10k or give it to them cause ANet can't spot bots (which move in obvious patterns) in some other way than trade?
And as to gold sellers "ruining" the game? That had nothing to do with making crystalline swords so rare they go for multiple millions etc,etc,etc ad nauseam, I am sure... or maybe not so sure. And 250 ectos for a pair of gloves was a reasonable decision for the economy....
Personally, I think ANet could do with taking a page from some other Korean MMO's and charging real money for "tokens" to get rare weps etc. Or just flat-out sell gold at around the price the gold sellers charge. I'd rather all that money went to Anet. Maybe then they could afford the GM's to implement a decent banning system.
So, what, I can't lend a friend 10k or give it to them cause ANet can't spot bots (which move in obvious patterns) in some other way than trade?
And as to gold sellers "ruining" the game? That had nothing to do with making crystalline swords so rare they go for multiple millions etc,etc,etc ad nauseam, I am sure... or maybe not so sure. And 250 ectos for a pair of gloves was a reasonable decision for the economy....
Personally, I think ANet could do with taking a page from some other Korean MMO's and charging real money for "tokens" to get rare weps etc. Or just flat-out sell gold at around the price the gold sellers charge. I'd rather all that money went to Anet. Maybe then they could afford the GM's to implement a decent banning system.
pamelf
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Actually that abbreviation was created by university students during the dark age of the internet. It can be assumed that it sounds like the f-word on purpose.
regarding spoken out loud and misinterpretations following from this: "ai" and "ei" are pronounced the same way in german -> Gaile = Geile "geil(e)" is a german adjective meaning "horny" (yes, the vulgar interpretation) Most of Germans won't care, because it evolved into meaning "cool" as well, but the original meaning is still in use. |
CHunterX
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Thing is, if it is as basic as a 100k +no item flag, botters will just switch to 80k or 50k or even 10k.
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Coifmeister
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Eh, I don't have a problem with French people, only any individual who gives me a reason to be mad at them. (anyone). Sounds like a personal problem you have. So don't put words in other people's mouths.
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I personally dont agree with the bans, since FAQ means frequently asked question and people have the rite to tranfer as much gold as they want.
imo Anet is in danger of turning into the thought police.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO CHEER UP!
i see the name 'Sofa King Great' i laugh, it adds to my enjoyment of the game knowing im playing with people with a sense of humour. PCness if for the real world, i dont like the real world thats why i play GW.
pamelf
Hehe, i giggled at that. Clever name. 
enter_the_zone
Yeah, I think Anet must have got this idea from DFS, since it's Sofa King Clever... and DFS are the Sofa Kings
Taki
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So its like saying "ATM Machine"....
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It was unquestionably one of the greatest movies of it's type that I've ever seen. From the actresses to the locations, to the crazy camera/film style...
Quality stuff man.
/OT
Make sure your friends contact support to get their ban/block sorted out, preferably before teh weekend.
arcady
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So this is only a constructive criticism about the recent banning franzy from anet. It's only a proposition to get a little more work then to accept tickets and banning withouth any further inquiries. All for the comunity and respect for the good players there are still around.
First of all NO FLAMING, NO QQ, WHINING ETC.....this is only an observation, nothing else. Nice comments only are welcomed. So here the thing, why for so long periods of time no one get banned then boom, out of the blue, tons of players get banned for offensive names and weird trading sessions. |
It is very disingenuous to call for no whining within your own rant / whine. That was hardly an example of constructive criticism. the phrase 'constructive criticism' cannot be applied to anything to make it so. The words have to actually be constructive, and not rantish or otherwise accusatory.
N8mare
First they implement loot scalling and do what they can to nerf farming and keep people away from it and away from their attempts to get rich. Then they see that people buy more and more gw gold because they've nerfed farming and made it far less efficient - so they start to ban people and ban the sellers. By doing so they don't fight with the cause of the problem, but with the results.
Are they blind or just plain stupid ?
Are they blind or just plain stupid ?
lucifer_uk
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With a name like yours allowed what is wrong with Faq? Your name should be banned.
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If that offends you please do send in a report to NCSOFT, I've wanted to have a change of name for my character for a long time.
If your talking about my guru name, meh, I got given the nickname Lucifer as a personal joke between friends, my best friend was also christened Jesusdude that day.
Sir Green Aluminum
These people are right faq is bad shorthand for your guild name. So by their logic gamefaqs is a porno site about gay players.
Loviatar
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BECAUSE NOW THEY FINALLY CAN REPORT THEM.
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THE OLD WAY TO REPORT WAS A TIME CONSUMING BUNCH OF HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH.
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BECAUSE ALL THOSE WHO WANTED TO REPORT BEFORE CAN DO IT NOW
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So here the thing, why for so long periods of time no one get banned then boom, out of the blue, tons of players get banned for offensive names and weird trading sessions. |
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So here the thing, why for so long periods of time no one get banned then boom, out of the blue, tons of players get banned for offensive names and weird trading sessions. |
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So here the thing, why for so long periods of time no one get banned then boom, out of the blue, tons of players get banned for offensive names and weird trading sessions. |
wsmcasey
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OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG I JUST UNBANNED!!!! OMFG, 2 DAYS!!TY,TYVM!
Hello, Thank you for contact Guild Wars Support. After reviewing the issue, it appears that your account was blocked in error. Your account is now released and you should be able to log in to Guild Wars. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Take care, GM Phields The Guild Wars Support Team |
Bug John
when will they add a "scam" option in the /report box ?
instead of banning so much people for their in game names, get rid of some of these scammers
instead of banning so much people for their in game names, get rid of some of these scammers
Ebony Shadowheart
roflmmfao! A guy with 'faq' gets in trouble for his name, yet there are people running with names like "c*nt eater." Personally I look at faq and see "frequently asked questions" not fag, f*ck, or any other colorful adjetive and I have one of the dirtiest minds of everyone I know! (I'm sure there are worse than me, I'm just saying.) Some people need to seriously take a chill pill.
Jongo River
Names shouldn't be a report offence. It's just too petty.
Anyone created "Muhammad The Teddy" yet? Wish I had a spare character slot...
Anyone created "Muhammad The Teddy" yet? Wish I had a spare character slot...
Aleta
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Let's see how the report system has changed my game play.
1. Don't do PUGS ever now. To much chance of someone getting pissed off and sending fake reports in. Has already happened to friends. No sense in risking it. 2. Don't farm same area to long otherwise might be considered a bot. Would be nice if someone asked first, as you are being punished for being effiecient. 3. Don't under any circumstances do any type of PVP. If, god forbid, something goes wrong, like internet connection, piss off someone, ect, never know where that will go. 4. Don't trade with a second account. It is considered a bannable offense. 5. Don't help anyone you know for G-D's sake as if you give them something, see rule 4. 6. Don't recommend GW to anyone new for fear that they would expect help, and you can't give it due to rule 4. 7. Don't talk in all chat ever. You may offend someone on a typo. (This was a 3 day ban on a friend and no it was not a curse by any means) 8. Don't try to trade anymore, with all the restrictions, not worth it. 9. Don't respond to a whisper, you never know how the person will take the response. 10. Make sure, no matter what, you find a way to have fun! Still working on 10, haven't really had it since they killed the pug with this. |
No local chat, no trading, nope not at all.
hmmm try to have fun. It's not fun anymore
I think the saddest part is that it's all become a witch hunt- yes there are some valid reports I am sure but for the most part the petty, childish people run the show now. Sort of like having to live in America with the ACLU and it's many frivolous law suits
Wildi
tempban kids who report crap like [FAQ]
Nemo the Capitalist
i love the french president and food 
Silly Warrior
I got banned for 72 hours for saying racial slurs.
Apparently Nazi's are a race now.
Apparently Nazi's are a race now.
Lord Sojar
I just logged on to find my account banned for 328 hours. lol? *logs on pvp account and works on glad title for 2 weeks* I must have done something VEEEERY bad. This on the wings of last night where a girl threatened to /report me for everything, like saying I would buy her 5TB HDD (lol?) for 4 grand USD, and she said offering to buy items in GW for real world cash. I was also threatened a ban because I said her armor was ugly, and asked which dumpster she pulled it out of. lol.
EULA: Section 3, Part B, Subarticle ii
Thou shalt not insult others armor, even if it is the most god forsaken thing you have ever seen.
I LOL @ ANET these days.
Your bans are up there on the silly scale. It always seems I get banned when one of these threads pops up. Does ANET go ban silly at the end of the month?
WHat is even funnier is that it doesn't give one of those vague reasons on this ban message, like racial slurs, inappropriate character name, it just says a breach of the user agreement. Apparently I got banned for one of those...cough...underlying rules. lollololol. Am I the only one who finds this funny?
EULA: Section 3, Part B, Subarticle ii
Thou shalt not insult others armor, even if it is the most god forsaken thing you have ever seen.
I LOL @ ANET these days.
Your bans are up there on the silly scale. It always seems I get banned when one of these threads pops up. Does ANET go ban silly at the end of the month?
WHat is even funnier is that it doesn't give one of those vague reasons on this ban message, like racial slurs, inappropriate character name, it just says a breach of the user agreement. Apparently I got banned for one of those...cough...underlying rules. lollololol. Am I the only one who finds this funny?
VitisVinifera
looks like this debacle is much worse than Gaile thought. I wonder how she'll poo-poo this now, considering it was supposedly fixed.
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I was also threatened a ban because I said her armor was ugly, and asked which dumpster she pulled it out of.
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on a side note..if you are an 'adult', you'll know how children love to tattle.
-thinks back thru the mists of time and wonders-
when i get banned will it be revenge for all the times I stuffed poor 'eugene' in the garbage can?
undeadgun
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I just logged on to find my account banned for 328 hours. lol? *logs on pvp account and works on glad title for 2 weeks* I must have done something VEEEERY bad. This on the wings of last night where a girl threatened to /report me for everything, like saying I would buy her 5TB HDD (lol?) for 4 grand USD, and she said offering to buy items in GW for real world cash. I was also threatened a ban because I said her armor was ugly, and asked which dumpster she pulled it out of. lol.
EULA: Section 3, Part B, Subarticle ii Thou shalt not insult others armor, even if it is the most god forsaken thing you have ever seen. I LOL @ ANET these days. Your bans are up there on the silly scale. It always seems I get banned when one of these threads pops up. Does ANET go ban silly at the end of the month? WHat is even funnier is that it doesn't give one of those vague reasons on this ban message, like racial slurs, inappropriate character name, it just says a breach of the user agreement. Apparently I got banned for one of those...cough...underlying rules. lollololol. Am I the only one who finds this funny? |
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
looks like this debacle is much worse than Gaile thought. I wonder how she'll poo-poo this now, considering it was supposedly fixed.
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Gaile: "Hi, you will be banned (pardon me, Gaile would say 'blocked') for the right reasons, at least 99.99999999% of the time. If we do make a mistake because after all we are human (insert random smiley), then we will do our best to make amends. The /report system is working as intended, and we do not foresee changes to it in the near future."
There, is that an accurate depiction of her response if she gives one?
Lord Sojar
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yes friends and me all got a breach of User Agreement thing pop up when we were banned,(code=045) right? i dont get it why thought
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ACK, double post, srys. I like to edit more.
Snow Bunny
Remember Rahja, you're obviously a bad person.
I'ma try and get banned tonight. The rather ease of it is appealing. Maybe I'll actually get my thesis in on time.
I'ma try and get banned tonight. The rather ease of it is appealing. Maybe I'll actually get my thesis in on time.
enter_the_zone
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Originally Posted by N8mare
First they implement loot scalling and do what they can to nerf farming and keep people away from it and away from their attempts to get rich. Then they see that people buy more and more gw gold because they've nerfed farming and made it far less efficient - so they start to ban people and ban the sellers. By doing so they don't fight with the cause of the problem, but with the results.
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Eagerly awaiting the imminent GW ban which will result from posting that on a GW fanforum. If the OP can see it, it doesn't matter that it's not ingame, expect the heavy hammer of the ban.
Random smiley... hope that softens the blow some and makes me seem more human and less like a corporate automaton. The response emails from ANet are clearly botted, as they are all identical, to the last word.... Hmm, interesting that, doncha think?