Bonus Mission Pack Released!

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
No. I'm sick of the pissing and moaning about the same thing in every thread all over GWG.
Blame the mods. They shut all the other BMP threads (including one specifically about alternate ways to purchase) and directed posters here. Shame, this was such a nice thread for a dozen or so pages.

FWIW, I expect ANet will eventually offer the pack again, but whether they do or not - it obviously would not be so soon after launch, so maybe we could all stop fighting about it for now?

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Very nice. Just a shame all the mursaat rewards seem to be floating chunks of crystal. Weapons, shields and off-hands would've been so much nicer.

Oh well, 3 out of 4 is still pretty good especially since the 3 are totally gorgeous.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

The only weapons I don't like are some of the sceptres.
They look like chunky clubs!

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom_395
good example and all, but the prices weren't the same
Yea, true, if you wanted them as separate purchases then they would be cheaper in game. If you just wanted one of the cheaper in store.

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but i will admit i did not read up enough on it, i thought that you could buy this pack after OR get this deal by spending 30$ at the online store, which in turn would save you money, not cost more money
This is the main issue. Go to any other store where you didn't notice someplace else had it on sale and cry this way - see how far you get. No one's fault but your own. There is little more Anet could have done to inform you - if you choose to clock your ears and close your eyes no one's fault but your own.

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also say someone takes a 2 month break, and misses all this excitement about the pack, they go out and buy gwen to get caught up, but there is no chance for them to have any crack at the BMP.
Lets say they do this and then notice GWEN was on sale someplace else - so? Is there any other thing where after taking months off you expect to be fully caught up on everything?

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i see your logics, it just dont seem it a fair thing for anet to do.
No, it's perfectly fair - that is a separate issue from you *liking it*.

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also anyone that doesnt have a credit card cannot get it that also seems very unfair. though i thought i read something about using a debit card?
is this true, i was under the impression that you could only use a credit card?
Once more you didn't bother to do enough to even note how you can pay for something and expect everything to work the way you want? Not only that but the pre-paid debit cards (that require you to do nothing more than purchase them from a store - I purchased mine from Wal-Mart) work just fine.

If you had the cash to buy the game from a store you had the ability to purchase from the in-store game. If you were looking to save money then having the BMP one sale later is going to *cost* you money (and that was obvious from the get go). The only complaint (and it is one I share) is that online purchases do not get the box - I like the boxes but the BMP was a MUCH better "reward" than the box. In this case you were told from the very beginning you had this choice.

I hope the release it later for a decent amount of money, at least 20 dollars - but then that will also prompt a huge thread of people complaining that it is too expensive (and argue that it should be anywhere from free - after all people who own all three chapters+gwen are loyal customers - up to whatever they charge). I think they would be crazy not too, that amount would make it available and those of us who forgo getting a the nice physical stuff from the retail store wouldn't feel screwed - especially considering everything that we were told before hand and what we gave up to purchase from the online store.

As is many are wanting their cake and to eat it too, while the rest of us had to choose which one. And yes, that is also a selfish idea, however that was the way we were told things would work before hand and I chose the one I wanted of the choices offered, not pick one and figure if I whined enough I would get the other one too. I hope you get access to the quests, but you have to give up something for it too.

NelZelpheer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

New Zealand

Krytan Fried Chicken [KFC]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Dial-up isn't an argument.
I know, I don't have it anymore, yet I couldn't get my hands on a credit card, and I had already paid $40 to EB on a pre-order

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
Very nice. Just a shame all the mursaat rewards seem to be floating chunks of crystal. Weapons, shields and off-hands would've been so much nicer.

Oh well, 3 out of 4 is still pretty good especially since the 3 are totally gorgeous.
Yeah, I was really hoping for some animation from the Mursaat weapons. After a few minutes, the novelty of them wear off, but the other weapons are still awesome. Just wish Tengu could be dyed a color other than Sand.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

On each account I bought 2 extra character slots (one year ago more or less), EoTN preview, 3x skill unlock (one week ago), I think it's more than 36 euros on each of my 2 accounts.

I can't log now, but I'll be very pi***d off if I'm not having the BMP just because my purchases weren't done in the right moment.

This afternoon I'll check it ...

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

Is this thread about the BMP itself or the beaten-up corpse of a horse?

Let's get back on topic and post more screenshots, pls.

Some mighty fine skins in there...

Ladybadone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Vikings of Midgard

This is pretty silly. I just started to play GW about a month ago. Went out and got the platinum edition , 2 cuz my husband plays from our local game store. Then a couple weeks later we both got Factions and NF, and in total spent about 160 dollars. Now I got all my games from a game store, because I like the box sets of all my games. Kinda like to collect them. I dont want the digital codes. So why should I not be able to get the BMP. The money i spent went to GW for the games. I just choose to buy from a game shop to get the box set.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladybadone
This is pretty silly. I just started to play GW about a month ago. Went out and got the platinum edition , 2 cuz my husband plays from our local game store. Then a couple weeks later we both got Fractions and NF, and in total spent about 160 dollars. Now I got all my games from a game store, because I like the box sets of all my games. Kinda like to collect them. I dont want the digital codes. So why should I not be able to get the BMP. The money i spent went to GW for the games. I just choose to buy from a game shop to get the box set.
Fractions, lol. I like to collect boxes too, but I chose to not get the box, and instead trade it for BMP access. You can't eat your cake and have it too.

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladybadone
So why should I not be able to get the BMP.
*snip*
I just choose to buy from a game shop to get the box set.
You answered your own question. For further examples, please scroll up.

Ladybadone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Vikings of Midgard

Bah excuss me for making a typo. You kids really need to go over to WoW where all the rest of your kindergarten class is and play in the sandboxes. Hmm and its you cant have your cake and eat it too, since we are being so technical here.

NelZelpheer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

New Zealand

Krytan Fried Chicken [KFC]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny Killer
You answered your own question. For further examples, please scroll up.
You seemed to miss the part where she typed about spending $160.

Funny that.

Ancient Menace

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by NelZelpheer
You seemed to miss the part where she typed about spending $160.

Funny that.
YOU seemed to miss the part where she didn't spend that money in the online store. I just spent $16,000 on a car. Should I get a free torment weapon?

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

How could not having these tiny 4 missions and 4 new skins make what people bought any less fun?

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladybadone
Bah excuss me for making a typo. You kids really need to go over to WoW where all the rest of your kindergarten class is and play in the sandboxes. Hmm and its you cant have your cake and eat it too, since we are being so technical here.
I was laughing because as soon as Factions was announced, there were dozens upon dozens of threads with the word "Fractions" in them. It was nostalgic, since almost no one talks about the campaign outside of AB. And If I was in kindergarden, I wouldn't be able to play Guild Wars!

NelZelpheer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

New Zealand

Krytan Fried Chicken [KFC]

Mo/

Maybe some free wax?

Something that relates to cars?

Point is, that'd still be over $40 Profit to Anet/NC.

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
How could not having these tiny 4 missions and 4 new skins make what people bought any less fun?
Because not having an alternative way to buy kinda sucks when you can't get your hands on a credit card.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

K we know its open, shall we close this thread before it changes to the I cant get Bonus mission whining thread?

Ancient Menace

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Yes, please do!

Friday

Friday

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

[DVDF]

I am truly impressed with these missions - wonderful addition!! The weapon skins are AWESOME, then missions are fun with the new skill bars,the music is really cool and settings are very very nice.

Thank you, for a very well done addition to my game. I am an extremely happy puppy!!

Off topic: would the ppl go and make another thread somewhere else about the inability to get the BMP. I for one would seriously not mind at all if Anet released the BMP for purchase in the online store - just to keep these "debates" about "loyalty" and "accessibility" out of the forums.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
K we know its open, shall we close this thread before it changes to the I cant get Bonus mission whining thread?
Or just clean it. I want more weapon skin screenshots.

Ladybadone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Vikings of Midgard

Quote:
Originally Posted by NelZelpheer
Maybe some free wax?
Something that relates to cars?
Point is, that'd still be over $40 Profit to Anet/NC.
Because not having an alternative way to buy kinda sucks when you can't get your hands on a credit card.
The problem here is, that people get rewarded for buying from their online store. Only those people. However everyone of us that plays GW had to pay for the games wether they bought it from their store or a game store ect the money still is a profit for ANet. There are tons of people that dont have credit cards and cannot order online, yet they go to the game store with cash and get the game. So why should not everyone that spends the same amounts of money basically, not be rewarded. You can always take the same product no matter what it is and find it at different prices. People choose to buy things where its most suits them but the bottom line is they bought it and spent money on it all the same.

Tommy McTom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Shazam

E/Mo

Mursaat Scythe


In addition to hot skins I have a chance to get rid of all those weapon upgrades I have sitting in my bank now.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

I wonder if the freebie used as incentive to get people to use the online store had of been totally unrelated to the game, like a free toaster or oven mitt, would have made people upset.

Ladybadone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Vikings of Midgard

Quote:
Originally Posted by Friday
Off topic: would the ppl go and make another thread somewhere else about the inability to get the BMP. I for one would seriously not mind at all if Anet released the BMP for purchase in the online store - just to keep these "debates" about "loyalty" and "accessibility" out of the forums.
Someone made a post about this and they where told to post on this thread.

beoks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

but it come down to money thats more inscentive for you to buy it right from them with no middle man, they make an extra cut off it. you are hypocrital for even saying why would they do this. if you owned anet or even stock in a net than you would want every buck that comes your way. it called running a business. get over it and let it go. they offered and you didnt take live with it this thread should be closed

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladybadone
The problem here is, that people get rewarded for buying from their online store.
How else do you suggest they promote the in-game store, which ends up netting them more money than selling it in a retail store? Really, I'd love to hear successful ways to promote the in-game store that don't involve giving things away.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladybadone
There are tons of people that dont have credit cards and cannot order online
Debit cards work too.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Or just clean it. I want more weapon skin screenshots.
Mursaat and Tengu weapon skins seem far superior to the other two, purely as far as skin goes, in my opinion. On completion of Gwen's Story, Goren won himself a Charr Sword.

I'll maybe take some screenshots later when I have a few to post.

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Originally Posted by CHunterX
Debit cards work too.
Some people use "Credit Card" as a Catch-All for Credit and Debit cards imo.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladybadone
The problem here is, that people get rewarded for buying from their online store. Only those people. However everyone of us that plays GW had to pay for the games wether they bought it from their store or a game store ect the money still is a profit for ANet. There are tons of people that dont have credit cards and cannot order online, yet they go to the game store with cash and get the game. So why should not everyone that spends the same amounts of money basically, not be rewarded. You can always take the same product no matter what it is and find it at different prices. People choose to buy things where its most suits them but the bottom line is they bought it and spent money on it all the same.
most of this was debated when BMP was announced in July
http://www.guildwars.com/products/ex...ionpackfaq.php

people had 4 months to use GW Store for extra char slots or GWEN. etc

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
K we know its open, shall we close this thread before it changes to the I cant get Bonus mission whining thread?
It already did change.

I wouldn't be surprised to see BMP sitting in online store in near future - more money for ANet + I don't think makers of this BMP wouldn't mind having even more people playing through their piece of art. Heck, even getting it for free later on wouldn't surprise me, the promotion time is over anyways.

Just my 2 cents.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie
It already did change.

I wouldn't be surprised to see BMP sitting in online store in near future - more money for ANet + I don't think makers of this BMP wouldn't mind having even more people playing through their piece of art. Heck, even getting it for free later on wouldn't surprise me, the promotion time is over anyways.

Just my 2 cents.
Give them cookies, cookies are awesome at solving problems.

beoks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

i agree it prob will be its good marketing and i gotta hand it to them i cant blame them for how they played their cards

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mong0L
you get the BMP
/winthread. 12chars.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
I wonder if the freebie used as incentive to get people to use the online store had of been totally unrelated to the game, like a free toaster or oven mitt, would have made people upset.
I don't think it would. Simply because you can get that toaster or whatever by other means if you really want one.

that's major difference between what anet pulled and other promotions. Gotta feel sorry for people who dont have access for it. So far, it was sooo much better than, i.e. Gwen.

Garvey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
It's really nice to see all the positive comments. Thanks a lot -- I'll be sure to head the team over to this thread.
and dont forget the negative ones

i play GW for 2,5 year now; i own all chapters (including preorder/prelease), i bought all unlock pack (btw all unlock packs cost more than required 26euro); i even have these oversized boxes from faction :P


and now im very sad becouse i cant play BMP

please put BMP in online store


now im so pissed that i wont buy GW2 (since i can see that you dont want my money anyway)

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garvey
and dont forget the negative ones

i play GW for 2,5 year now; i own all chapters (including preorder/prelease), i bought all unlock pack (btw all unlock packs cost more than required 26euro); i even have these oversized boxes from faction :P


and now im very sad becouse i cant play BMP

please put BMP in online store


now im so pissed that i wont buy GW2 (since i can see that you dont want my money anyway)
ANET cares that your not buying GW2, really they do. Here, have a QQ Cookie, better then even Chocolate Chip.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Not going to read all of these posts, but once we have completed at story are we able to go back, complete that story again an earn another weapon?

Utaku

Utaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paris, France

We eat pancakes [Yumy]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
Not going to read all of these posts, but once we have completed at story are we able to go back, complete that story again an earn another weapon?
Yes you can, but it seems everything is customized, including offhand items.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
Not going to read all of these posts, but once we have completed at story are we able to go back, complete that story again an earn another weapon?
This part was a bit vague, but I will quote the wiki.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GuildWarsWiki
Completing each mission also unlocks “Discovery Mode” for that mission, adding three hidden, bonus goals for you to discover. For each bonus goal you complete, Durmand will give any one character on your account an additional authorized story. The additional stories can only be earned once for each account.

So in other words, you can get one of each weapon type for each of your characters, and then you can get one of each type again for your account as a whole, so you have to choose which character to give the extra tries to. Example, a Warrior would need an axe/sword and a shield, or perhaps a strength shield and tactics shield. Or a ranger needing both a recurve bow and a longbow, etc.

beoks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

i'll prob get in trouble for just asking this but does anyone reading this not have a credit/debit card?? that couldnt buy online?