Do Paragons Make You Feel Dirty?

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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
Paragons can be shut down just as well. There's blocking (no adrenaline = no energy, which means no spamming of skills). Most anti-melee shuts them down, and there are a few anti-shout skills out there aswel. Yes, but those are easy to fix... There are TONS of ways to remove conditions and hexes.
[DE]
[DE]
Hugs and Kisses
#22
I feel very dirty when playing imbagon....
Diddy bow
Diddy bow
Furnace Stoker
#23
Its Pve, c-space will win 99% of it anyway.
Shadow Spirit
Shadow Spirit
Krytan Explorer
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Toxage
Another problem - Save Yourselves doesn't scale with a attribute - just allegiance rank.

There's Nothing To Fear - Leadership affects it.

Save Yourselves should be changed to scale with strength. LOL. I find it amusing that a Warrior skill makes Paragons so powerful.

They've been nerfed to death already.

And the only thing dirty about them are those man-panties that they wear.
Effendi Westland
Effendi Westland
Wilds Pathfinder
#25
Not as dirty as playing ursan though.
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#26
leave paras - LEAVE THEM
Racthoh
Racthoh
Did I hear 7 heroes?
#27
People use "They're On Fire!" when they have "Save Yourselves!" and "There's Nothing to Fear!"?

Quote: Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief While I agree that the difference between a bonder and a para are obvious, the point remains, both can do it. Well the difference is a bonder is a huge waste of a slot.

Quote: Originally Posted by Squishy ftw Paragons can be shut down just as well. There's blocking (no adrenaline = no energy, which means no spamming of skills). Most anti-melee shuts them down, and there are a few anti-shout skills out there aswel. Kinda. The flat out cannot use shout skills are very rare, Well of Silence and Vocal Minority. One has a long recharge, the other is a well. Pretty sure every good hex removal in the game, even the bad ones, recharges faster than Vocal Minority. The AI is bad with a lot of anti-melee skills, mostly the AoE ones. Faintheartedness and Soothing Images are the only two hexes that, when I have SY! on my bar, are 99% of the time thrown my way. When it comes to blinding as long as you have a melee character who is not a tree you'll rarely get hit with the blind spells.

Blocking doesn't matter, at all. If there are block stances, you leave that enemy till the end of the mob when victory is ensured.. If the entire mob has a block stance keep tabbing through instead of pressing c (and also show me a mob of enemies full of block stances that would actually be a threat without +100 AL). The only thing that should ever keep you from gaining adrenaline would be Aegis which is a rare spell to encounter in PvE. In which case you should be packing the appropriate removal to deal with Aegis be it Rip, Shatter, Mirror, etc..

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Originally Posted by Toxage
Save Yourselves should be changed to scale with strength. I guess but for 8 adrenaline and such a short duration even at max rank you can't drop the +AL too low @ 0 strength. TNTF is still amazing at 4 seconds afterall.
dont feel no pain
dont feel no pain
Forge Runner
#28
Im Realy gonna get flamed for this but..... Only the Core Proffesions are Balanced, the newer ones are all broken... though i like Paragons and Rits =]
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chowmein69
Forge Runner
#29
paragons doesnt make me feel dirty , they fun to play with
Trub
Trub
Jungle Guide
#30
yes, yes they do...bless em'.
You can't see me
You can't see me
Forge Runner
#31
Two Words.

Vocal Minority.
YunSooJin
YunSooJin
Pyromaniac
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Squishy ftw Paragons can be shut down just as well. There's blocking (no adrenaline = no energy, which means no spamming of skills). Most anti-melee shuts them down, and there are a few anti-shout skills out there aswel. yes..everyone in the damn game can be shut down, we're talking about degrees here, not absolutes. You're totally missing the point.

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Originally Posted by You can't see me
Two Words.

Vocal Minority. oh god, vocal minority, used by all of two monsters in the game. How the hell does your input have any relevance to the overall picture of the game?

edit: this was a rhetorical question, because your input is useless and has no relevance to why paragons are so overpowered in the first place. I don't go around going 'oh look, warriors can be blinded, that must make necromancers better for single target dps'.
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AlienFromBeyond
Jungle Guide
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by Racthoh
People use "They're On Fire!" when they have "Save Yourselves!" and "There's Nothing to Fear!"? Why not? The only place it's not useful is against Destroyers.
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IlikeGW
Jungle Guide
#34
They're pretty dull... too many pvp nerfs pigeon hole them into a few roles and it's just not creative or entertaining to use mine anymore.
YunSooJin
YunSooJin
Pyromaniac
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by IlikeGW
They're pretty dull... too many pvp nerfs pigeon hole them into a few roles and it's just not creative or entertaining to use mine anymore. I didn't know they had any role except buffing the party into tanks.
1 up and 2 down
1 up and 2 down
Wilds Pathfinder
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
Not as dirty as playing ursan though. QFT

If paragons are imbalanced and need a nerf then ursan should also be nerfed!
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Atomos
Ascalonian Squire
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by Diddy bow
Its Pve, c-space will win 99% of it anyway. I thought PVE was Ursanway while pressing 1,2,1,3
Rexion
Rexion
Wilds Pathfinder
#38
i feel dirty when i throw a rod around with no pants on. who doesn't?


*gasp*
SEEZ WHAATZ I DEDS THER?
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cebalrai
Jungle Guide
#39
That build (and the variations on it) are just broken and overpowered. And I see them being used quite a bit.

All the people on this thread that keep tossing out counter skills (ie vocal minority) have NO point whatsoever because we're talking about pve here. 99.9% of the monsters in the game are incapable of disrupting this build so...
MercenaryKnight
MercenaryKnight
Forge Runner
#40
The reason 90% of paragons are using that build is because a.net nerfed 90% of the good skills and builds paragons had because they were imbalanced with pvp. Thus, we have a few skills and very few good builds to use.