I think its about time this glitch ended (zone-anywhere glitch)

lazuli

lazuli

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Permabanned

Mo/

i made a thread about this earlier based on my doubts, and that one disappeared somewhere. this time, im making it again because ive seen it happen.

a few weeks ago i saw people advertising running anywhere for x amount of money, i became concerned that so many people would be able to do this, now i tried calling their bluff, and paid 2k for someone to run my derv (only has istan really, since shes survivor and working on eotn) to bone palace.

the attached conversation has been removed, i wont go over it here.
the fact remains that this glitch has been floating around for a month at least with nothing done about it though, that needs to stop NOW.

Jhadur

Jhadur

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

Already been done. Bolded the bit you're on about.



Quote:
Update - Thursday, December 20, 2007

[edit] Wintersday
  • Wintersday is here! Kamadan, Lion's Arch, Droknar's Forge, and Ascalon City are decorated for the occasion. Over the coming days, holiday activities will begin as special guests arrive to join the festivities. Everything leads up to the big Wintersday celebration on January 1, which will take place every three hours in Lion’s Arch [sic] and Kamadan (on the hour in Lion’s Arch [sic] and 15 minutes past the hour in Kamadan). Be sure to collect candy cane shards for the big celebration!
[edit] Bug Fixes
  • Fixed a bug in the Bonus Mission Pack missions to make player armor equal across classes and armor levels.
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  • Yuletide now sets all primary attributes to 0.

lazuli

lazuli

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Permabanned

Mo/

the thing is..it still works. my derv never had bone palace open before, just other chars had. (i just posted this after my derv got teled there like..what, 5 minutes ago? (dec 30, 2007)

point here is that its obviously not fixed

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

so like whats wrong with it? does it like make the game die? do you lose out cause others are somewhere further ahead? is like the flood of lvl1s to unbearable for you? i really dont see the problem i learned how to do it... but srsly im not gonna buy my gh the guild ambassador...

srsly i see nothing all that wrong but it could be fixed since its a glitch...

like srsly gw isnt gonna blow up cause lvls 1 at abaddon or whatever

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Deleted, didn't read the screenshot. I am irrelevant.

lazuli

lazuli

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Permabanned

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
stuff
to be honest, i couldnt give a damn less about the glitch itself. its people who MAKE MONEY from a glitch that shouldnt be there in the first place that ticks me off.
(read: name me one person who enjoys watching other people get rich off exploits?)

I wouldn't do it b/c i don't want that kind of money even if I were broke. If it really was an honest game mechanic I wouldn't mind ferrying friends to their heart's content.

To Saraphim: i dont know if you tried using the GH trick to reproduce the ferrying trick. the bottom line is, my derv got zoned all the way from istan to bone palace via the method i wrote in the screenie

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Yes, apologies, I didn't read the screenshot before I went off to try it.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Yeah, the glitch still works. Its time to really fix it imo.

Davros Uitar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Fool Wolves

W/Mo

I spotted people talking about a glitch 12 hours ago in LA international. When I logged onto Kamadan tonight I see 4 or 6 advertising to run to all towns / outposts in all maps for 3k per stop. Certainly have to agree with the OP that the glitch looks to be alive and well, and spreading out there.

Isison

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

P/Mo

This may not sound right, but having 11 pve characters myself and owning all chapters and expansions, i find this "bug" is the best "gift" Anet gave to us this winter. =D

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Maybe it's been floating around this long because idiots are posting it in riverside. A glitch should be noted in the bug section.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Maybe it's been floating around this long because idiots are posting it in riverside. A glitch should be noted in the bug section.
When was the last time anyone visited the bug section?
Things get fixed very quickly in GW once enough people get pissed off.
And Riverside IS the place to get people pissed off!

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Haha I love the fact that Anet thought they fixed the glitch, but there's another way to do it. Nice work as usual guys!

Khazad Guard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Australia

No Loitering In The Guild [Hall]

E/

I'm not for this glitch and I know it's been around for a while now...The thing is you just posted how to do it, and that's going to cause teleportation madness now :S

lazuli

lazuli

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Permabanned

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khazad Guard
I'm not for this glitch and I know it's been around for a while now...The thing is you just posted how to do it, and that's going to cause teleportation madness now :S
if this gets blown out of proportion, all the better ^^
least some higher up or dev is bound to notice when everyone knows how to do it :P

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khazad Guard
I'm not for this glitch and I know it's been around for a while now...The thing is you just posted how to do it, and that's going to cause teleportation madness now :S
true - but it will also get ANet's attention a lot faster than trying to file a support ticket and finally reaching a real person after 2-5 days.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Anet should leave this in so I don't have to play through boring missions to get to pretties.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Yep, it still works. Maybe ANet now wakes up. I think it is already too late. Besides, not that anyone would care about it. Garthporlest18 has a point.

P.S.: Great, this thread explained it to everyone and his daughter. Read below, people charge for it.... uuh!

Davros Uitar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Fool Wolves

W/Mo

I think Garthpolest18 has a point about it being a handy feature when you have played the game so much uncovered all the areas on one or more characters.

Where the point becomes invalid is that people will well know, be they ferry or passeger, that this is an intentional abuse of a glitch. While it has not the direct gain level as the other 2 recent events, it falls into the same category of abusing the TOS as did duping and getting stuff into pre-searing. This is not an intended feature or a Xmas present as someone else aluded to.

On the same note - the consequences should not be as severe as those handed out for the other 2 activities, but there should be some consequences if it can be traced.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

I tend to agree with Gareth as well.

After playing X number of characters through a campaign, you wish at some point to be able to move through towns faster, because you know the storyline, and you've already played it before.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davros Uitar
I think Garthpolest18 has a point about it being a handy feature when you have played the game so much uncovered all the areas on one or more characters.

Where the point becomes invalid is that people will well know, be they ferry or passeger, that this is an intentional abuse of a glitch. While it has not the direct gain level as the other 2 recent events, it falls into the same category of abusing the TOS as did duping and getting stuff into pre-searing. This is not an intended feature or a Xmas present as someone else aluded to.

On the same note - the consequences should not be as severe as those handed out for the other 2 activities, but there should be some consequences if it can be traced.
I really don't see what this harms...

It is not like it is a challenge to get anywhere in the game. It just takes time, sometimes days. So really, if someone wants to get there, then they can anyway, it just takes awhile.

Do you lose out on your FoW runs if someone gets to the Bone Palace in 30 seconds instead of 2 hours?

Does anyone die in HoH because someone skipped from Kaineng to Cavalon?

Does it have any impact on how much items cost?

It doesn't effect anything. The only difference is that instead of spending 2 hours playing to get somewhere, they spent 30 seconds getting there. The only thing lost is the "enjoyment" that they would have got from fighting their way there. Which if they want to lose out on that...who cares?

For example....I absolutely hate the mid-level places in NF. The Kournan area, Crossroads mission, Pogahn Passage...hate them. Not that they are hard, they are piss easy. The thing I don't like about them is that they are BOOOOORRRING. So is it really that big of harm if I skipped from Consulate Docks to Kodash? What does anyone lose? I lose wasted time that I wouldn't have enjoyed...and that is about all that is lost. I might miss out on an exciting plot twist that is somehow different than the other 8 times I have played through?

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Some guy is portalling people for 3k to last mission of Factions

Tried it out and it worked....

i don't even have all the areas leading up to this place

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Also, I see nothing wrong with this. ANet should just make it a feature. There are missions I'd love to do with some characters, and the people there would probably enjoy the help, but playing through the crud to get there is just boring.

lazuli

lazuli

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Permabanned

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
convincing stuff
what annoys me is that people are earning money off a glitch, not the glitch itself. how is this different from duping where a broken mechanic is being exploited/profited, for better or worse? (sure, armbraces for 1k each would be nice, but what about people who worked for em? same with this deal.)

if you really wanted a legitimate way of zoning without being there before, petition anet for a 'unlock all zones' pack or something.

To Edge Martinez: ACA is me, T O E tagged along b/c he was inquisitive, and the guilty person's name has been completely blocked out

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

Not a problem?

Imagine this scenario:

Create character >> Pay some money to ferry guy >> Zone to Lugardis Conservatory >> Pay for HFF >> Days later, Legendary Survivor

Fair?

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

This will make you wtf. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
Not a problem?

Imagine this scenario:

Create character >> Pay some money to ferry guy >> Zone to Lugardis Conservatory >> Pay for HFF >> Days later, Legendary Survivor

Fair?
Ok...or they could just stand WAY back and have guildies and/or friends play through the missions to get them there. That is not fair either.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by lazuli
To Edge Martinez: ACA is me, T O E tagged along b/c he was inquisitive, and the guilty person's name has been completely blocked out
My bad man. I meant the person who posted a player's name in the post right before mine. I saw that you blocked it in your screenshots.

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
This will make you wtf. Just thought I would throw that out there.


Ok...or they could just stand WAY back and have guildies and/or friends play through the missions to get them there. That is not fair either.
Getting guildies and friends to play through mission to get them there is very much different from click, click, click ... THERE.

Time, effort and risk of dying is very much 2 world apart.

If the glitch isn't corrected, very soon, legendary survivor can be renamed as Legendary Hffer.

The idea of being able to warp anywhere is great. I mean, i already wanted this function back in prophecies. Thats why we got people to do forge run right? (Droknar Forge)

But being able to do so immediately after you created a character just don't seem correct.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Not fair. Besides the fact that this title is mostly grind anyways.

It just seems ANet does not deem this too critical.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
This will make you wtf. Just thought I would throw that out there.


Ok...or they could just stand WAY back and have guildies and/or friends play through the missions to get them there. That is not fair either.
Or they could roll a non-Factions character, get to lvl 10, go to GW:EN get the Adventurer of the North buff and Frontis-pummel their way to Legendary Survivor.

I've got a lvl 10 rit (he was lvl 7 but I blew through a couple of missions earlier), and I really don't get why Arena.net have given Nightfall and Prophecies characters a hilariously easy way to get to LS via the Asura Gates in LA and Kamadan but have left Factions characters unable to get off the Island until they've finished the primary quests/missions. All it does is tempt me to pay for a run, I've got 9 lvl 20s and I get a bit bored with grinding through noob islands over and over again.

If I'm wrong about the above, please do correct me.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Make it that it works when ur character reaches lvl 20 or something, because this and armor becoming tradable are two things I wanted to happen in this game for a long time.

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
Make it that it works when ur character reaches lvl 20 or something, because this and armor becoming tradable are two things I wanted to happen in this game for a long time.
Tradable armor?

hehe, if it really do happen, i m gonna keep my obs armor in storage, delete my character, recreate and make the legendary survivor, and trade back the obs armor

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
Not a problem?

Imagine this scenario:

Create character >> Pay some money to ferry guy >> Zone to Lugardis Conservatory >> Pay for HFF >> Days later, Legendary Survivor

Fair?
Titles are most nearly meaningless, minus a few, anymore. The issue is not about having a shortcut / easy way to a title, it's about people making gold out of the glitch.

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

Its gonna happen one way or another.
You stop this thread, soon, another thread will pop up.
Isn't riverside already known for this?

Its up to anet to fix it.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

=. Well then, sorry. *leaves thread*

To above post, can you go to guild hall from the starter area? That should answer your question, yes or no.

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

be very specific. whoever is using this glitch now has to be banned. i'm fed up with dishonest ppl getting advantages over honest players.
a.net has been generous last time, noone has been banned when they first found about about this exploit. now that ppl KNOW it's an exploit and they are still abusing it, a BAN is needed for the safety of this game.
People have to know that exploiting = ban, else anyone will start abusing bugs when they come.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
be very specific. whoever is using this glitch now has to be banned. i'm fed up with dishonest ppl getting advantages over honest players.
a.net has been generous last time, noone has been banned when they first found about about this exploit. now that ppl KNOW it's an exploit and they are still abusing it, a BAN is needed for the safety of this game.
People have to know that exploiting = ban, else anyone will start abusing bugs when they come.
So how has this exploit negatively impacted you?

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

a nice little bit of percentage if anyone could take me. i wouldnt do it though, especially when u will get spammed /report if u asked in a town

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
So how has this exploit negatively impacted you?
an unhealthy gaming world affects negatively all the player base. it helps spreading the exploit-abusing attitude.
now, even if this exploit is not particulary dangerous or economy-damaging, someone needs to stand very clearly that exploit abusers are not tolerated in any way, or ppl will start mass-exploiting bugs (way worse then this one) considering themselves ban-proof.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

This certainly helps more than it doesn't. If people didn't have to charge that'd be great.

Also Zeek I've been in two towns were people were talking about it already.