I think its about time this glitch ended (zone-anywhere glitch)

Big_Daddy

Big_Daddy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Big Daddy Experience [BigD]

N/Mo

I wanna go to Pre Searing and stay there and forget all that has happened

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

if only that was possible. see pre-searing people cant visit the hall
Lol wouldn't that of been funny though if people were still camping in there halls since that glitch....we could have lvl 20 paragon, dervish, ritualist and assasins in pre searing.

I was just talking about the little tutorial places for the other games.

ThyNecromancer

ThyNecromancer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
You will not exploit any bug in Guild Wars and you will not communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug (bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits) either directly or through public posting, to any other user of Guild Wars. Bugs should be promptly reported via "Ask a Question" at http://support.guildwars.com.
That's from the main website. If it affected you personally or not doesn't matter. These players should be banned if it's against the EULA of GW. And here's some more..

Quote:
In-game Infractions

The following will result in an account mark (suspension) or an account termination, depending upon the severity of the matter:

# Abusing game exploits.

# Advertising cheats, hacks, and exploits
Personally, I'd love it if I could just make a level 20 pve character that already has everything opened and all primary quests done at the lowest level. The thought of making a character and doing all the expansions makes me want to throw up...

Sha Noran

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

I can't believe there are people trying to argue that the glitch should be ignored because it doesn't negatively affect people. First of all, a game that doesn't require you to actually play it to win is not a game that lasts very long. Secondly, it's a glitch, not a feature, and will be fixed. It's only a matter of time.

Amadeo

Amadeo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Mystic Spiral

Mo/

Actually, this is a big deal..

People could create a new character, let him get run to the last mission of Factions/Nightfall, complete the mission with lvl20 friends and then receive Amulet of Mists/Book of Secrets and make a lot of money selling these..

I'm probably an idiot for typing this, because people will now start to get ideas, but let's hope Anet fixes this asap..

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
Not a problem?

Imagine this scenario:

Create character >> Pay some money to ferry guy >> Zone to Lugardis Conservatory >> Pay for HFF >> Days later, Legendary Survivor

Fair?
Considering that doesn't actually work (or at least, it didn't the other day, when I was going through the ins-and-outs of the teleportation glitch)... Yeah, seems fair. If all you are worried about is a crummy farming title, you should be complaining about Kilroy and his retarded punch-out dungeon quest.

lazuli

lazuli

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Permabanned

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amadeo
moneymaking stuff
I suppose somebody's gonna have to think quick to shut this down, or people are just gonna mass produce amulets like this, seeing that last mission is run easily by an assassin, hmm?

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Um there needs to be a market for those amulets and I doubt you could sell more than 10 a day tops. Lots of people make more than 100k a day.

Also I think Anet should make things less rubbish after going through them more than once. Hell I play this game as 3D chatroom, it's not much more.

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
You need to have reached Docks, LA, or KC and have the boat to go between continents. My storage character [level 6] had to get a run to LA before it would be tele'd to HzH.
You only need to have Kamadan, not docks. Trust me

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Earth X
You only need to have Kamadan, not docks. Trust me
I thought you just needed the boat, and you wouldn't get the boat until Docks, but okay. o.O

Update! GASP! My friend who has reached Lutgardis at level 3 can't FFF because he can't get the quest.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

hmmm do u recon the allegience quest needs to be completed. Does that quest appear when the person goes to HZH..

EDit: u cant accept the allegience quest either in HZH...

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Update! GASP! My friend who has reached Lutgardis at level 3 can't FFF because he can't get the quest.
Because he hasn't completed "Befriending the Kurzicks" yet, which he can't do without...

GASP!

...doing the other primaries before it.

Hence:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
Considering that doesn't actually work

IIIPowerIII

IIIPowerIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Canada

R/Mo

just go to Killroy... Faster and easier...

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
you should be complaining about Kilroy and his retarded punch-out dungeon quest.
That quest is easy. Infinite rez. Yeah, eaaasy.

On-topic: Bans are necessary for people who abuse the glitches of the game. I didn't even know this exploit existed until I read the update. Now, I read it on here that it still works. I hated when people did the duplicating with the Armbraces. Not everyone was banned from that, it still ticks me off that I work for months to get Obsidian, someone learns a glitch, gets enough money to feed all of Kaineng's poor empire. It's BS.

I hope the next update fixes this.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
That quest is easy. Infinite rez. Yeah, eaaasy.

On-topic: Bans are necessary for people who abuse the glitches of the game. I didn't even know this exploit existed until I read the update. Now, I read it on here that it still works. I hated when people did the duplicating with the Armbraces. Not everyone was banned from that, it still ticks me off that I work for months to get Obsidian, someone learns a glitch, gets enough money to feed all of Kaineng's poor empire. It's BS.

I hope the next update fixes this.
The magnitude of this compared to duping should be relevant. Not to mention, at this rate, if everyone who teleported with this exploit got banned, a LARGE amount of people would be gone. Everyone paying 5-3k for these runs probably doesn't even know how it works.

We can still get HzH armor though. W00t. >>;

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

How is this happening though?

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jebus
How is this happening though?
If someone explained exactly how to do it, then even more people will exploit it. I don't know, I don't want to know so that the temptation isn't there. WTB fix, plz.

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jebus
How is this happening though?
Yeah, cuz explaining how exactly ppl are abusing a glitch on a board is such a good idea lol...

It's a glitch

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

I suppose if u wanted to FFF you could get to the point through a series of quests. Because cant u accept the befriend quest once youve done sunjiang.

so theoretically you would need to be teleported to sunjiang > do the mission with some friendly people > accept the quest to go hzh> teleport to alterum ruins and you should be able to go to hzh and accept befriend quest.

Its quite alot of hastle but it would skip a good proportion of the game. thats if that worked and then assuming you could accept the HFF quests after that


lol i should stop giving ideas away
i was there at the time the glitch first came but as it was fixed i don't know how to do the new glitch. There was a mod who deleted all posts about it the first time around so its no surprise no one knew

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

I've been reporting people who admit that their "run" is the exploit, screen-shotting the whole conversation.

Hope everyone else is doing the same.

KANE

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmithyBen
I suppose if u wanted to FFF you could get to the point through a series of quests. Because cant u accept the befriend quest once youve done sunjiang.
Don't you need to have done the primaries before you can do the mission too?

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

I honestly doubt a.net will ban anybody. Just like when the loophole with getting items into pre searing. They will most likely just give them a slap on the wrist and say don't do it again. And "fix" it again.

IIIPowerIII

IIIPowerIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Canada

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jebus
How is this happening though?
Go in LA buy a run for 500ish gold, then you'll learn it :P 3 step and its done... then you can do it yourself...

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Yeah, it is still active, despite the 'fix' Anet said had occurred. I don't know how it WAS done versus how it is being done now, but last night I saw someone selling runs to anywhere for 2k. I asked for a Run to Central Transfer Chamber, got an invite to his guild hall. Never went, as I had already been there, and didn't want/need the run. But at least I cost the guy 100g for the guest invite

Although I don't think this is anywhere near Duping, it should result in some bans. Not Account bans, just temp bans, like a 72 hour one or something. And only for the people using it, not the people getting the runs done. I won't argue about WHY, but this is bad for the game for several reasons.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

u dont need the primaries to do a mission in prophecies and factions. Prophecies let anyone get anywhere and do the mission. factions locked the gates so u couldnt get to the areas without a quest. but if u teleported to the area u could do the mission (go in party with same quest i think works but not sure). nf stopped all of this

Archaic

Archaic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Canada

Me/

Sorry to pee on anyone's happy parade, but I've been doing some testing, you can't do Securing Echovald Forest without doing the storyline primaries first, so...no easy survivor.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
And only for the people using it, not the people getting the runs done.
lolwut?

So the people using the exploit to get places on their map shouldn't be banned, only the people who helped them?

IIIPowerIII

IIIPowerIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Canada

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archaic
Sorry to pee on anyone's happy parade, but I've been doing some testing, you can't do Securing Echovald Forest without doing the storyline primaries first, so...no easy survivor.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Kilroy_...xtravaganza%21

the new very easy survivor...

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
lolwut?

So the people using the exploit to get places on their map shouldn't be banned, only the people who helped them?
Yes. The people doing the run are USING an exploit. The people getting run are making use of someone's ability to use an exploit, but aren't actually using this exploit themselves. Since the person being run can't run themselves (they haven't been there yet) they can't use the exploit.

I only think the people USING the exploit should be temp banned (make sure the temp ban comes fast enough, and lasts long enough to cover the hat handouts )

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Well, this certanly explains why am I seeing "Ferry to Kodash, 5K" advertised in Kamadan. How sexy...and I was working my ass off to get my dervish there for his white Vabbi ~~

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
Yes. The people doing the run are USING an exploit. The people getting run are making use of someone's ability to use an exploit, but aren't actually using this exploit themselves. Since the person being run can't run themselves (they haven't been there yet) they can't use the exploit.

I only think the people USING the exploit should be temp banned (make sure the temp ban comes fast enough, and lasts long enough to cover the hat handouts )
Wow....that is some screwed up logic.

The innocent people that are getting the "run" know good and well what it is. They are using the exploit just as much as the person using it with them. They actually have to do the exact same process....enter into a place then resign. It's not like these innocent people accept a party invite then POOF they are there.

People using the exploit to skip the game shouldn't be banned, but the people helping them should. I am thoroughly confused by that logic

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
Wow....that is some screwed up logic.

People using the exploit to skip the game shouldn't be banned, but the people helping them should. I am thoroughly confused by that logic
Dupers were banned, but not everyone who accepted laundered items were.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

It's control. As mentioned, if EVERYONE recieves a ban that has used this, there would be HUGE numbers unable to play the game. Restricting to the ones actually using the exploit makes people stop using it (you'd hope). Since it requires someone to do the run, all runs would stop if the runners couldn't/wouldn't run anymore.

I'd be willing to bet that many of the people getting runs know it is an exploit, but do not know how it is done. I am also willing to bet there are a large number of people who use wiki to see what armor looks like and how much it costs, and where to get it made. Those people do not, however, always know that they way someone is offering to get them there is an exploit.

So although many people getting runs know it is an exploit, not all do. ALL runners know it is an exploit. This way, a mass banning of anyone running or being run with this method means some would get banned 'unfairly'. However, banning only the runners means you are banning everyone 'fairly' since the runners know it is an exploit they are using.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

I think a-net needs to focus on fixing this rather than chasing people with bans for doing it.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steboy93
I think a-net needs to focus on fixing this rather than chasing people with bans for doing it.
They need to do both, but I don't see bans coming from anything short of /report or screenshots sent to the support site.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Dupers were banned, but not everyone who accepted laundered items were.
Duping required two people to partake in the duping. This requires two people to partake in it.

Banning the person who didn't get the duped item, but letting the person with the duped item go doesn't make sense does it?

Only banning one person in a 2+ person exploit doesn't make sense. It makes even less sense to ban the person who didn't benefit from it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
I'd be willing to bet that many of the people getting runs know it is an exploit, but do not know how it is done. I am also willing to bet there are a large number of people who use wiki to see what armor looks like and how much it costs, and where to get it made. Those people do not, however, always know that they way someone is offering to get them there is an exploit.

So although many people getting runs know it is an exploit, not all do. ALL runners know it is an exploit. This way, a mass banning of anyone running or being run with this method means some would get banned 'unfairly'. However, banning only the runners means you are banning everyone 'fairly' since the runners know it is an exploit they are using.
Come on....

Ok, accept this guild invite. Now come to my guild hall, then we are going to preview a guild hall, then we both have to resign, then we teleport to the place you never had!

Who the hell could possibly think that is not a glitch?

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
It's control. As mentioned, if EVERYONE recieves a ban that has used this, there would be HUGE numbers unable to play the game. Restricting to the ones actually using the exploit makes people stop using it (you'd hope). Since it requires someone to do the run, all runs would stop if the runners couldn't/wouldn't run anymore.

I'd be willing to bet that many of the people getting runs know it is an exploit, but do not know how it is done. I am also willing to bet there are a large number of people who use wiki to see what armor looks like and how much it costs, and where to get it made. Those people do not, however, always know that they way someone is offering to get them there is an exploit.

So although many people getting runs know it is an exploit, not all do. ALL runners know it is an exploit. This way, a mass banning of anyone running or being run with this method means some would get banned 'unfairly'. However, banning only the runners means you are banning everyone 'fairly' since the runners know it is an exploit they are using.
So what you're trying to say is

I've used this to but I wasn't the one leading the group so don't ban me but ban the person who portalled me

NICEEEE

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steboy93
I think a-net needs to focus on fixing this rather than chasing people with bans for doing it.
I don't see why they didn't do an emergency 'remove all ambassadors temporarily' thing. I don't see how they can let this go on this long without doing anything.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

This sounds great actually... I find it odd you're expected to play the campaign through more than once in the first place to go do things like get armor on another character. The "gated" stuff was a total step backwards in enjoyment.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solange
So what you're trying to say is

I've used this to but I wasn't the one leading the group so don't ban me but ban the person who portalled me

NICEEEE
Why would I use it? I have all outposts on all but 1 character, and that 1 character is missing only a handful of Tyrian cities not worth going to. I am saying to ban the people who use it, so if you think I am running people with this exploit..... LOL

And for the comment that people don't know that this is an exploit.... Yes, there are people who are stupid, and don't know what is happening. Should they be banned because they did what they were told to do by a runner? Trust me, there are people stupid enough to do anything you tell them to do. Don't believe me? Ask how many people have had accounts stolen because they tried to buy/sell a guild wars account for in game gold.