I think its about time this glitch ended (zone-anywhere glitch) - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Dec 2007 at 21:33 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobey

Not a problem?

Imagine this scenario:

Create character >> Pay some money to ferry guy >> Zone to Lugardis Conservatory >> Pay for HFF >> Days later, Legendary Survivor

Fair?

With or without the glitch, you can get a new char to lvl10, get ran to Gunnar's Hold, and do the boxing lair, which is much faster. Legendary Survivor has always been one of those brain-dead grind titles that people get just to add to their KoaBD, since it's far from anything impressive.

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Originally Posted by KANE OG

I've been reporting people who admit that their "run" is the exploit, screen-shotting the whole conversation.

Hope everyone else is doing the same.

KANE

Have fun spending the whole day reporting then......I really don't think anet is gonna bother when they get 100+ reports and counting.

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

I don't see why they didn't do an emergency 'remove all ambassadors temporarily' thing. I don't see how they can let this go on this long without doing anything.

Maybe they secretly support it and disguised it as a "bug"

After making multiple pve chars, do you think people wanna spend lots of time getting through each chapter, yet again? I think not. Just about everyone knows about this now and is taking advantage...Less time doing the missions you've already done over and over, more time getting a quick lvl20 decked out in 15k so you could move onto funner things.

When people were duping Armbraces, it was hurt the economy. The only thing being hurt this time around are people's feelings......the one's get that get bothered when they see all the lvl3's running around in high end areas. They're not affecting me in anyway so, why should i care?

wu is me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

30 Dec 2007 at 21:47 - 82

haha, work hard on gw2 Anet, i really can't see anything adverse about this "bug" =P

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

30 Dec 2007 at 21:50 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by IlikeGW

This sounds great actually... I find it odd you're expected to play the campaign through more than once in the first place to go do things like get armor on another character. The "gated" stuff was a total step backwards in enjoyment.

Right, because why would anyone want to actually play the game with a second character.

Oh, wait...

DaCatInDaHat

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

theoneandonly HiDe Alliance

Mo/

30 Dec 2007 at 21:53 - 84

stop whining about how other people are taking advantage of this and DO something. glitches are a natural part of video games, they happen. you can take advantage of it just as much as anyone else can. personally, i do not like the way some people are taking advantage of it, but im not going to go crying to mommy about it....

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

30 Dec 2007 at 22:46 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinraith

Right, because why would anyone want to actually play the game with a second character.

Oh, wait...

some wouldn't want to go through every hoop just to enjoy a second character. PvP characters can't have special armor, weapon skins, etc. So, one makes a PvE character to fill a gap in their gameplay experience. It's next to impossible to get groups for missions/primary quests and most of the time henchies don't fit the bill...heroes are only available in Nightfall until you get to GWEN. Sure, now you can get to GWEN at level 10 and get level 20 heroes...but that's just kinda stupid.

I'd love to have the CHOICE to get a low level character to Kodash for vabbian armor, only after beating the game at least once on another char. I'd prefer to have a choice in that matter...and I had that choice in Prophecies. Factions removed that choice...and it kills the gameplay experience. Forcing a player to take every single character through every mission just to get something they want later in the game is frankly moronic. Who does it affect? Noone. Does it make your gameplay experience any different if I have my level 5 Ele in Bone Palace? No. "zomg I had to fight my way here, why can you be here from this exploit?" Well, you could use the exploit as well.

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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30 Dec 2007 at 22:51 - 86

They didn't ban anyone the first time they "fixed this". They didn't ban anyone who brought items to presear by actually modding the texmod to let them use the button. It isn't like duping where everyone would know getting free items= destroy economy.

Worst that could happen is maybe they find a way to take the towns off your char? I don't think they'd even bother with a temp ban. In my opinion if they were going to ban people they'd of been banned when they "fixed" the exploit.

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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30 Dec 2007 at 23:00 - 87

Holy crap, this has EXPLODED. It was bad enough earlier today, but I can't go through a single outpost except maybe Maguuma Stade without seeing ads for ferries.

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

30 Dec 2007 at 23:07 - 88

It hurts everyone when it's possible to bypass the game and cut straight to the rewards. There's not much point in playing anymore when that's the case. Given how widespread this has become it's hard to see how the damage to the game isn't rapidly becoming irreperable. Rollback time, it seems to me.

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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30 Dec 2007 at 23:25 - 89

w/e anyone who wants the trick used it already. the pre searing item glitch didnt get anyone banned, whereas the duping did. all i say is ban those who profit from the glitch and leave those who do it for fun alone. absuing a glitch for profit is NOT ok imo.

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

30 Dec 2007 at 23:28 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinraith

It hurts everyone when it's possible to bypass the game and cut straight to the rewards. There's not much point in playing anymore when that's the case. Given how widespread this has become it's hard to see how the damage to the game isn't rapidly becoming irreperable. Rollback time, it seems to me.

Do you play with other people to get through the game?

If 99% of the population blazes through the game and gets their armor and quits playing, will that somehow stop you from playing through the game to get your armor?

Will them people skipping through the game, that would be playing through with heroes and hench somehow effect your game?

I could see if the game required you to play with other people to get through...if everyone skips through then you have nobody to play with. However, since almost everyone plays through with H+H or friends, then this is rather irrelevant. Skipping straight to the rewards? Of what? Better looking armor? Oh no. They skip straight to the "rewards" then buy their armor, then what are they going to do?

People ruining the game for themselves really doesn't have any impact on anyone else. They lose the "fun" of playing through the nooby mid-level places. The exploit doesn't damage GW itself, anyone can still have just as much fun if people use the exploit or not. The exploit however can negatively impact the users gaming experience, but if they want to do that, who cares? It isn't like they get some huge advantage over you.

Edit: And has anyone tried this with a PvP character? Now that would be funny.

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Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

30 Dec 2007 at 23:44 - 91

LoL yea, there is NO advantage at all in being able to get to an endgame area with a re-rollable low level char...I mean, we all delete our lv 20's after we beat a campaign, just so we can re-collect endgame rewards, then purge(Factions/NF/Gwen).

I bet with a 'simple' system, you could collect a lot of books, amulets..etc.etc...in a very short time.

make-ferry-beat-purge.
rinse-repeat

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

30 Dec 2007 at 23:46 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

LoL yea, there is NO advantage at all in being able to get to an endgame area with a re-rollable low level char...I mean, we all delete our lv 20's after we beat a campaign, just so we can re-collect endgame rewards, then purge(Factions/NF/Gwen).

I bet with a system, you could collect a lot of books, amulets..etc.etc...in a very short time.

make-ferry-beat-purge.
rinse-repeat

And that gets you? A load of green items that are no better than what most people already use. Hell, they are hardly better than collector items. No advantage.

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Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

30 Dec 2007 at 23:47 - 93

rotflmao.

NO it gets me GOLD. FAST GOLD.

he who has the gold, has the advantage.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

30 Dec 2007 at 23:50 - 94

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terraban

People ruining the game for themselves really doesn't have any impact on anyone else.

Well, to be fair, this bug can have some negative impacts on the community. Some notable ones include cheapened end-game items (since people could create characters, zone to Imperial Sanctum/Abaddon's Gate and get run through mission, repeat), cheapened black moa minis (same thing, bit more complicated, but most of the time spent running everywhere is severely cut), and the more obvious killing of running services (not that it's a huge deal, but still).

Though honestly, if this was made to be a feature instead of a bug, the first two flaws could be redesigned to compensate, and the third problem is something I think many of us could live with.

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

30 Dec 2007 at 23:51 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

rotflmao.

NO it gets me GOLD. FAST GOLD.

he who has the gold, has the advantage.

What advantage do you have with gold? Can get the drunkard title faster? Oh noez my game is totally ruined. Sweet tooth title? Hell I may as well just quit playing, it is ruining my life that you got the sweet tooth title

But, you only get GOLD FAST GOLD if people buy the amulets. Which, the supply will skyrocket, and people selling them, the demand will go down. So you will just be left with a lot of amulets, which you will trade for a lot of greens, which are nothing special. Congratulations and welcome to Skill > Time/Gold

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Well, to be fair, this bug can have some negative impacts on the community. Some notable ones include cheapened end-game items (since people could create characters, zone to Imperial Sanctum/Abaddon's Gate and get run through mission, repeat), cheapened black moa minis (same thing, bit more complicated, but most of the time spent running everywhere is severely cut), and the more obvious killing of running services (not that it's a huge deal, but still).

Though honestly, if this was made to be a feature instead of a bug, the first two flaws could be redesigned to compensate, and the third problem is something I think many of us could live with.

Yeah...the end-game thing could be viewed as negative, but its impact is still very small. As far as I know, end-game weapons are not in high demand as is. They are easy to obtain either way. So this just makes something easy to obtain easier to obtain.

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Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

30 Dec 2007 at 23:54 - 96

really rotflamo.

my paypal account likes fast gold. see how that works?

lulz @ ingame advantages...that isn't where this is going.

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

30 Dec 2007 at 23:57 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

really rotflamo.

my paypal account likes fast gold. see how that works?

lulz @ ingame advantages...that isn't where this is going.

Gold sellers will not be selling amulets to fund their gold selling sites. What is it? 1 million gold for 20 bucks? Thats what? 100 Amulets for 20 bucks? 100 trips through the game, then managing to sell 100 Amulets to people for 10k each? Come on.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

31 Dec 2007 at 00:00 - 98

Yeah, gold-sellers don't do in-game trades other than un-ID golds. I seriously doubt they would bother with amulets/books, especially if anyone can do this and the prices of them decline to that of orange dye.

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Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

31 Dec 2007 at 00:01 - 99

the 'fastness' of this possible farm terribly outweighs the 'come on'

/edit

not all gold sellers are in sweat shops, in a 3rd world country. some are 'private'

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

31 Dec 2007 at 00:06 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

not all gold sellers are in sweat shops, in a 3rd world country. some are 'private'

And those that are "private" know of much faster ways of getting gold. This is a waste of time for anyone other than those who just want the greens, plain and simple.

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

31 Dec 2007 at 00:07 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

the 'fastness' of this possible farm terribly outweighs the 'come on'

/edit

not all gold sellers are in sweat shops, in a 3rd world country.

So 100 amulets for 20 bucks, assuming the price somehow stays at 10k.

Assuming what, 10 minutes for an amulet? Including deleting, creating, teleporting, then mission.

Thats 1000 minutes for 100 Amulets. Or roughly 16-17 hours. Assuming that you don't have to sell the Amulets, that is a massive $1.25 an hour. However, how long is it going to take to sell 100 Amulets? Weeks? Month? We are talking cents for the hour. That is going to fill up your paypal account?

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Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

31 Dec 2007 at 00:08 - 102

are you sure ...really sure it's a 'waste of time'...

or is it actually saving time?

and apparently terra, you haven't seen how plat/gold drops these days.

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

31 Dec 2007 at 00:10 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Though honestly, if this was made to be a feature instead of a bug, the first two flaws could be redesigned to compensate, and the third problem is something I think many of us could live with.

And what a wonderful addition to the game it would be!

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

31 Dec 2007 at 00:12 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

are you sure ...really sure it's a 'waste of time'...

or is it actually saving time?

and apparently terra, you haven't seen how plat/gold drops these days.

Bots can farm the gold.

Bots will have a really hard time doing your amulet trick.

That means you have to sit there and do it. You could be a paper boy and make more money than selling the money from the amulet trick.

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

31 Dec 2007 at 00:15 - 105

i don't think hurts guild wars too much

I think it shows how much people want to not bother going through the tedious motions of the same stuff over and over again

OPEN THE GATES IN FACTIOS AND NIGHTFALL - let people RUN FREE!!!!!!!!!!

Runs are fun, same thing as this actually just takes longer

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Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

31 Dec 2007 at 00:21 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terraban

Bots can farm the gold.

Bots will have a really hard time doing your amulet trick.

That means you have to sit there and do it. You could be a paper boy and make more money than selling the money from the amulet trick.

you do realize that this isn't about botting...don't you?

a bot isn't needed to use this exploit. please get that out of your head.
not all farmers are bots either.

with 10 people exploiting. 5 selling the wares...I believe that you can make quite a killing here..before it's 'fixed'. not to count the gold made from what some call 'running' lol.

-nice way for a guild to make some plat.

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

31 Dec 2007 at 00:29 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terraban

I really don't see what this harms...

Does it have any impact on how much items cost?

gg book of secrets

gg amulet of mists

gg droknar's key? (maybe)

DaCatInDaHat

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

theoneandonly HiDe Alliance

Mo/

31 Dec 2007 at 00:30 - 108

yep gg droknars key

not that it matters much, as end game items in Factions and EotN are rubbish anyways...

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

31 Dec 2007 at 00:38 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaCatInDaHat

yep gg droknars key

not that it matters much, as end game items in Factions and EotN are rubbish anyways...

are you sure, I remember on my monk I didn't accept a quest reward and I couldn't get the mission in Central Transfer Chamber.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

31 Dec 2007 at 00:50 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

gg book of secrets

gg amulet of mists

gg droknar's key? (maybe)

lol who's cared about those items in forever? anyone who exploits this for that is going to have a hard time selling when the market was pretty bad for them already

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

31 Dec 2007 at 01:05 - 111

If only real life were like this, we work constantly sometimes doing things we don't enjoy but if we got the rewards right away everyone would probably stop working and everyone racing around with their lives would probably come to a halt as they figure how much time they've been wasting doing all the unimportant things...

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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

It comes down to this.

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

31 Dec 2007 at 01:34 - 112

so let me get this straight
a pve glitch for pve players, and pve players are complaining?

you accept ferrys to different continents, accept runs and ferrys to get max armor at low lvls, but wait, you wont accept a ferry for anyone to go to anytown?

sorry, but either be ok with ferrys and runs or disable them all. none of you little kiddies are going to stand on your soap box and preach how wrong this is when you probably got ran, or ran someone in the last two years. this is just evolution of running.

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

31 Dec 2007 at 01:40 - 113

Well i dont think its gonna stay for long as anet have already had a go at fixing it, i used it earlier to skip the eye-bleeding factions skill capping grind (factions pve) for my new necro.

People should stop crying about it, its not making anyone rich quick, all the fools that are grind farming amulets are wasting their time as someone already pointed out (although $1.50~ per hour might be a good rate for some people), the only semi useful greens are from GWEN and you cant use the bug for those.

Nyktos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Nyktos Guild [win]

31 Dec 2007 at 01:40 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno

so let me get this straight
a pve glitch for pve players, and pve players are complaining?

you accept ferrys to different continents, accept runs and ferrys to get max armor at low lvls, but wait, you wont accept a ferry for anyone to go to anytown?

sorry, but either be ok with ferrys and runs or disable them all. none of you little kiddies are going to stand on your soap box and preach how wrong this is when you probably got ran, or ran someone in the last two years. this is just evolution of running.

Running is different. Running requires skill (on the runner's part that is). And for the record, I don't agree with ferrying. That's an exploit that should be fixed too.

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

31 Dec 2007 at 01:43 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyktos

Running is different. Running requires skill (on the runner's part that is). And for the record, I don't agree with ferrying. That's an exploit that should be fixed too.

People can do it in their sleep tho after awhile (The runs)...it doesn't take much skill

its exactly the same thing as getting runs from people just hyperspeed star trek technology

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Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

31 Dec 2007 at 01:58 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

People should stop crying about it, its not making anyone rich quick

LoL, says you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

all the fools that are grind farming amulets are wasting their time

as I said before...they are actually saving time.

and this is for the record...there are prolly a few hundred thousand who don't come to guru...go to high-end/sell forums, don't farm..etc..etc.. those end-game greens are prolly the best weaps some can/will get. and to them...they are worth however long it took them to beat the campaign. and now it can be done in what...like 15 min? lol

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

31 Dec 2007 at 02:06 - 117

How does using it just to get amulets help save time?
The greens from the end of factions are worse than collectors items, you can farm cash elsewhere and make more than the 20k gold per hr that amulet selling will net you.

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Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

31 Dec 2007 at 02:16 - 118

click..click.. click..bang

endgame.

re-roll character. repeat.

you can have every endgame weap that can be had(via exploit) in what...a day at best?

I don't see how it isn't saving time lol. I know it would take me at least 4 days to get a few characters thru all the areas in order to get endgame junk.

but warping right there doesn't save time lol. playing thru does I suppose.
re-rolling and getting a few weaps/books....doesn't net gold either.

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

31 Dec 2007 at 02:30 - 119

These types of exploits kill the already weakened community which in turn is killing GW.

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

31 Dec 2007 at 02:34 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two April Mornings

These types of exploits kill the already weakened community which in turn is killing GW.

I don't see how this is killing the community any further as the people who'd actually abuse this were ALREADY killing the community with their general presence.