I think its about time this glitch ended (zone-anywhere glitch)

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

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Uh yeah.. the bug is still around. People in my guild were doing it yesterday..

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

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If a game isn't pay to play, I'm all for sequence breaking if it doesn't involve a glitch.
But if it's a glitch then it should be fixed.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by flubber
.there are prolly a few hundred thousand who don't come to guru...go to high-end/sell forums, don't farm..etc..etc.. those end-game greens are prolly the best weaps some can/will get. and to them...they are worth however long it took them to beat the campaign. and now it can be done in what...like 15 min? lol
this is just ... I don't know out of touch with the market? you can buy cheap or find an r9 inscribeable and put whatever bought cheap/found perfect mods you want on it now... this is how inscribeable weps+HM drops have changed the market completely and made greens pretty much obsolete and unwanted. I'd lol if these amulet farming dopes were able to sell anything and they'll probably give up in a day or two with little success selling

Leslie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

Slash afk [afk]

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yeah, the endgame greens of all campaigns are pretty much mediocre, both in terms of skin and stats. They were overly common to begin with.

...on a side note, i think Tyria needs some end game greens after Hell's Precipe. Seems only fair since all the others have them!

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

What factors do you think they should base bans over this on?

IMO, they should ban the people charging for it and figure out how to wipe specific outposts from characters, and just do that. Too many people are doing this, and its way more tame then say the duping thing, so I don't think it justifies a perma-ban. The thing is, this would take a way more complex algorithm to trace than say searching for 150+ armbraces on a character.

Lil Mystique

Lil Mystique

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

In England soon to be with Leslie ^.^

Slash Afk [afk]

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It seems that this will not be fixed anytime soon. Gaile posted this in the Dev Tracker Forum:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hello,

I have sent emails to the QA and content programming teams to let them know of this situation, and to provide them the details you have so kindly put in this thread and elsewhere. Those details will be useful as the team tracks down what is causing the bug.

It is now Christmas Eve, and I do not think that it would be reasonable to expect that anyone from the team will be able to address this for at least a few days, perhaps not until January 2nd. I am very sorry for the delay -- I know it's a frustrating bug. But the team has been working hard, and they deserve their Wintersday break. Too, many key team members are traveling to various places for the holidays, so those who might need to be involved in the bug fix may be in a different state... or even on a different continent!

Thank you in advance for your patience as the team resolves the issue. We will continue to review the thread in case other details are provided that help in detecting the cause of the glitch.
__________________
Gaile Gray
Community Relations Manager
ArenaNet
The Guild Wars Site
Now this was in regards to the glitch where the ambassador wouldn't show halls, but it seems Anet is on vacation until Jan 2.

Source: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...90&postcount=6

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sora of the Divine
What factors do you think they should base bans over this on?

IMO, they should ban the people charging for it and figure out how to wipe specific outposts from characters, and just do that. Too many people are doing this, and its way more tame then say the duping thing, so I don't think it justifies a perma-ban. The thing is, this would take a way more complex algorithm to trace than say searching for 150+ armbraces on a character.
I don't think this deserves a ban, maybe a day or 2 for the people charging, because it's really easy.......

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil Mystique
It seems that this will not be fixed anytime soon. Gaile posted this in the Dev Tracker Forum:

Now this was in regards to the glitch where the ambassador wouldn't show halls, but it seems Anet is on vacation until Jan 2.

Source: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...90&postcount=6
By which time everyone should have all towns on all maps for all characters. I agree that this needs to be fixed, but judging from the fact that nothing was done about people making a fortune from the last exploit ( the ale farming in pre) - I dont see anyone getting their hands slapped.
Actually, if the problem is about people making gold out of this, then an alternative is to announce it everywhere so people who dont know wont be paying "runners". Just a thought

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
I don't think this deserves a ban, maybe a day or 2 for the people charging, because it's really easy.......
It's not that it's EASY. They're still abusing a glitch, and that's against the EULA. So (I hope not), they're probably going to ban everyone involved in it, even if its temporary.

I'd be all over this and have every outpost in all campaigns on all my characters, but I don't want to miss the Wintersday finale. Decisions, decisions...

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sora of the Divine
It's not that it's EASY. They're still abusing a glitch, and that's against the EULA.
the glitch was caused by human error by mis programming or checks or whatever

im sure people could have found this out accidently....actually i'm sure thats how it was found out and then friends slowly shard it around

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Fix it? Sure. Ban? Why? I'm not saying it isn't an exploit, I'm not saying people who are using it aren't really cheating the game and themselves, but it's getting rather close to the end of GW's lifespan. Banning a bunch of people who just want to get to the content that they enjoy in a game at little expense to the playerbase as a whole isn't really going to be a wise move for Anet--those people will likely be very upset, and not purchase/support/give a shit about GW2.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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people weren't banned from the HoS chest run, they called that an exploit.
They tried to fix it before, but couldn't.

People didn't get banned for ferrying to Docks, or Slavers either.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solange
the glitch was caused by human error by mis programming or checks or whatever

im sure people could have found this out accidently....actually i'm sure thats how it was found out and then friends slowly shard it around
All glitches are caused by human error at some point.

Zena Starlight

Zena Starlight

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

CBE

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But with this glitch people are making a lot larger profit than just by farming and doing a lot less work.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steboy93
I think a-net needs to focus on fixing this rather than chasing people with bans for doing it.
That is precisely what the team is doing. On a weekend that is also part of the holiday break.

Our objective is not to punish, but to repair. And I've heard from at least three GW team members who are working hard to do just that. If anyone ultimately gets punished -- either for using the exploit, from promoting or publicizing it, or for profiting from it -- that is truly secondary to closing the loophole as quickly as possible.

Dang, 6am3 Fana71c, that's a great image. I've not see it before. *lol*

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
I don't see why they didn't do an emergency 'remove all ambassadors temporarily' thing. I don't see how they can let this go on this long without doing anything.
I'd like to answer that: Because we thought it was fixed, and because it crept up (in a new form) during a holiday. However, as I mentioned, it's definitely being looked into now, on many levels and by many people.

Thanks to everyone for your patience as we resolve this. If you continue to have concerns, I will be happy to try to address them for you.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil Mystique
It seems that this will not be fixed anytime soon. Gaile posted this in the Dev Tracker Forum:
That's from a week ago. Gaile doesn't post in the dev tracker forum, the dev tracker forum indexes things Gaile posts (usually well after the fact).

??? L??wLi????????? ???

??? L??wLi????????? ???

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Dela-where?

Demonic Rage [dr]

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Its still going on..everyone in Kamadan is spamming it still..

-Sonata-

-Sonata-

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Pretty Hate Machines [NIN]

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GW2 is still a long ways away and if certain people are exploiting known bugs I'm already under the assumption they don't give a shit already. If there's bans coming, so be it. If not, so be it. I just want it fixed. If people want to get to areas so bad, play the game, or get the old fashion run.

Those who truly value their accounts do not engage in actions in which they know they're risking a possible ban/suspension. If, in the end, some players are suspended for a certain amount of time, well, maybe it'll be another lesson learned. Then again, maybe not.

??? L??wLi????????? ???

??? L??wLi????????? ???

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Dela-where?

Demonic Rage [dr]

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owned. everyone in Kamadan d1 saw it.


Nice job Gaile!

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
It hurts everyone when it's possible to bypass the game and cut straight to the rewards. There's not much point in playing anymore when that's the case. Given how widespread this has become it's hard to see how the damage to the game isn't rapidly becoming irreperable. Rollback time, it seems to me.
There's been a reason to play Guild Wars in the past..oh 10 months? LOL. Yeah right man.

Lil Mystique

Lil Mystique

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

In England soon to be with Leslie ^.^

Slash Afk [afk]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
That's from a week ago. Gaile doesn't post in the dev tracker forum, the dev tracker forum indexes things Gaile posts (usually well after the fact).
That's why I said it was in reference to the guild ambassador being broken. And in any case that is a direct quote from Gaile and I was using it as a way to let people know they are on vacation and it may take a a few days to fix.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by † LãwLiþøþ™ †


owned. everyone in Kamadan d1 saw it.


Nice job Gaile!
Was that in american district?
Very good job Gaile

Avatara

Avatara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

to bad the damage that has been done by people that have been opening buried treasures (etc) wont be undone... here come all the gems.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

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one warning in one district in one town, either it need to be globally accounced, or added to the accouncement screen, otherwize it not a real warning.

ya know when i think about it, mb they shound give those exploiters a title, mb Legendary Ferry of Ascolon, seeing how anet love to reward those who are inovated enough to break their mold.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

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This is waht I have to say on it.

If they ban anyone for doing it then they need to ban everyone who used the Zchest before the keys were enabled, as its the same thing.

noneedforclevernames

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Jay To Much [SrE]

Me/N

I think anyone who participated in this explot should be pernamently banned, no questions asked.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Was that in american district?
Very good job Gaile
That was in many districts across a few territories. I stopped and chatted with players in some districts, but for the most part, I waited to see if the exploit was being promoted, and if it was, I posted that or a similar message.

I don't want to be or sound like I'm a mean person. I just want to let people know that if they use an exploit, they may get a block or ban on their account. I don't really know right now what will happen to those who use this exploit, who promote its use, or who profit from it. Maybe nothing will happen at all. But with Wintersday just two days away, I want players to think about it a bit, about what they might be doing or might be tempted to do, so that they don't risk losing access to one of the best days of the game year.

Arwen Granger

Arwen Granger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Melbourne, Australia

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
This is waht I have to say on it.

If they ban anyone for doing it then they need to ban everyone who used the Zchest before the keys were enabled, as its the same thing.
Yes, and ban everyone who:
1. used the gate trick in Foundry
2. used the door glitch to kill Mallyx
3. bought stacks of black dyes, ectos at 250g when anet resetted the prices 2.5 years ago
4. dupped the armbraces. I seriously doubt all the duppers were banned.
5. ferried goods to/from pre/post searing
6. benefited from the 30% enchant items.
... very long list ...
This game has its share of bugs. If you ban everyone who 'exploited', not many players left.

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by noneedforclevernames
I think anyone who participated in this explot should be pernamently banned, no questions asked.
that would suck....

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arwen Granger
Yes, and ban everyone who:
1. used the gate trick in Foundry
2. used the door glitch to kill Mallyx
3. bought stacks of black dyes, ectos at 250g when anet resetted the prices 2.5 years ago
4. dupped the armbraces. I seriously doubt all the duppers were banned.
5. ferried goods to/from pre/post searing
6. benefited from the 30% enchant items.
... very long list ...
This game has its share of bugs. If you ban everyone who 'exploited', not many players left.
Some of those involved in the issues on your list were definitely banned. Some where not. It depended on their involvement, the issue, and other factors. Plus, wouldn't you agree that some of these things aren't at the same level of significance? I mean the 30% items sure don't seem in the same class as duping!

If the zone-anywhere glitch is seen to be a serious-enough issue to deserve account action, that action will be taken. I don't know yet what decision will be made about it. But at the end of the day, this is sort of like a casino: Casino personnel can't catch every person who cheats at cards, but that doesn't keep them from looking, or from reacting when they catch a cheater.

Daenara

Daenara

Bad Romance

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron

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I can't see why there's such a big fuss. Yes, it's an exploit that needs to be fixed.. but seriously, the torches and pickforks should be put away. It's not economy breaking like the duping.. it doesn't affect anyone but the person who is ferried. Besides, every man and his dog owns an exalted aegis by now, or any end game green :P There has to be thousands (millions? ) out there already, I can't see it weakening the "market" for them further.

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Some of those involved in the issues on your list were definitely banned. Some where not. It depended on their involvement, the issue, and other factors. Plus, wouldn't you agree that some of these things aren't at the same level of significance? I mean the 30% items sure don't seem in the same class as duping!

If the zone-anywhere glitch is seen to be a serious-enough issue to deserve account action, that action will be taken. I don't know yet what decision will be made about it. But at the end of the day, this is sort of like a casino: Casino personnel can't catch every person who cheats at cards, but that doesn't keep them from looking, or from reacting when they catch a cheater.
if this thing kept quiet like it did when you guys TRIED to fix it 2-3 weeks ago nobody would be banned (I'm assuming nobody was banned during the first round about)

Its like during the NBA playoffs and the media made all the hush hush about 2 players stepping on the floor when they weren't supposed to...

Its all about the community and how up in arms they get or else people just don't notice it and nothing is done

Kinda sad because i hope i'm not banned for this...

I didn't take anybody on rides other than myself and a few guildies mainly to get armor instead of running through areas again 3rd 4th time

oh well i'll wait and see what happens

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by noneedforclevernames
I think anyone who participated in this explot should be pernamently banned, no questions asked.
Did you read... anything?

Gaile, thank you and everyone else who is working on their break.


A new build of Guild Wars is available. :3

Arwen Granger

Arwen Granger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Melbourne, Australia

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Some of those involved in the issues on your list were definitely banned. Some where not. It depended on their involvement, the issue, and other factors. Plus, wouldn't you agree that some of these things aren't at the same level of significance? I mean the 30% items sure don't seem in the same class as duping!

If the zone-anywhere glitch is seen to be a serious-enough issue to deserve account action, that action will be taken. I don't know yet what decision will be made about it. But at the end of the day, this is sort of like a casino: Casino personnel can't catch every person who cheats at cards, but that doesn't keep them from looking, or from reacting when they catch a cheater.
Dear Gaile, while some dupers were banned, there are still so many people with insane amount of armbraces. One can say they definitely benefited from the dupers. With all these spare "cash" flowing into the game economy, high end items have been jacked up sky high - pandas are at 9000 ectos, just a case in point. It just makes one think the actions anet has taken on that episode was "too little, too late".

As for the 30% mod episode, the benefit was not significant, but what's significant was the scrapping of the item only happened after someone posted a sell thread of these things, then anet nerfed them, with the lingering thought about XYZ guild people getting advance nerf warning, etc etc.

EmptySkull

EmptySkull

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

KaoS League

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Vanquishing and a new build is available, hmm wonder what that is about?

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

has it been fixed?

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by EmptySkull
Vanquishing and a new build is available, hmm wonder what that is about?
Definitely the new skill balance.

EmptySkull

EmptySkull

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

KaoS League

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Don't know can't get new build til vanquish is over. Maybe just a temp fix or nothing to do with it at all.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Definitely the new skill balance.
lol

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

just 1 file but might be it, hopefully.
i'm not sure how this exploit worked, u could just create a new char and map him to few cities? if this was possible and someone opened multiple buried treasures like this, that's who's deserving a big ban imho

HNC南非

HNC南非

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

台北

英雄無淚 [HNC屌]

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Anyone know what the update is yet?