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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Servers are not affected by "graphical this and that", 100 gifts could be as little as what, 1k of memory? Possibly less. Laughable load...
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Insane lag at Event
Kashrlyyk
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
It is not the size, it is the amount of items. Try to delete 70000 1kB big files by marking all of them and then making a right click on them. Crashed my explorer even though 70MB are no problem usally.
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zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
I was obviously talking about the graphics management, not the mesh and textures which are in your Gw.dat (though it's not obvious that ALL is there). With all the clutering and all people in the center ring, the server has to check a few things I guess.
Another problem being that GW districts are not servers, but probably virtual servers (and one or two hundreds of them if I'm not mistaken), which means that virtual memory swapping becomes a HUGE pain in case of physical and virtual load. Of course, I'm NOT Anet and could be very mistaken about what's happening. I'm not trying to be smart here, rather useful (I'll even be happy to know the truth and admit I was wrong). So if you have a better idea, please state it! |
My ideas would be:
Simple connection overload. We know that GW uses blobs in database to store character data, with hundreds people picking items, database could get overloaded when servers fetch updated character data. Possibly overloaded so much that it would timeout (and not receive commit command), thus it will rollback. Lots of open connections watiing till timeout would be basically self-DOS (+ opened connections to players senting tons of data - one person picks present -> info that hes picking it gets sent to all of people in explorable) of game servers, giving us 007s
It would also be natural that servers kick people when their character update fails as protection from duping attempts, because most of duping relies on servers failing to update data correctly.
Also, people are district hopping just after they get hats. That produces insane load as they are being sent quite and amount of player related data, possibly several times in row as they look for correct district where they can get seccond hat.
Cherrie
I hope ANet will abandon the idea of popping-up presents the next year... or get more servers and more bandwith dedicated for the event...
I don't mind not getting the presents but loosing the hat that already appeared in my inv really upsets me...
I don't mind not getting the presents but loosing the hat that already appeared in my inv really upsets me...
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
My ideas would be:
Simple connection overload. We know that GW uses blobs in database to store character data, with hundreds people picking items, database could get overloaded when servers fetch updated character data. Possibly overloaded so much that it would timeout (and not receive commit command), thus it will rollback. Lots of open connections watiing till timeout would be basically self-DOS (+ opened connections to players senting tons of data - one person picks present -> info that hes picking it gets sent to all of people in explorable) of game servers, giving us 007s |
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Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Cherrie
I hope ANet will abandon the idea of popping-up presents the next year... or get more servers and more bandwith dedicated for the event...
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I laugh when I picture this in my head with an airport with its planes, and in a matter of seconds tens of thousands of people rushing through the gates
Cold Hearted Zero
lol looks like anet fails at event again ^^
Harmless
Hope they just make the presents go into your inventory automatically next year.
mr_groovy
Zomg in dist 1 of la euro & yet again lag @ 2pm gmt event. Mapping as we speak.
Legion Magnus
Largest Ping I experienced was 76,000 during the second event. People couldn't even pick up their own presents for some time.
I too vote for Presents going automatically into your Inventory. Seems the only fair way for everyone to benefit from these events. I for one especially do not like to see what it brings out in people fighting over virtual presents.
I too vote for Presents going automatically into your Inventory. Seems the only fair way for everyone to benefit from these events. I for one especially do not like to see what it brings out in people fighting over virtual presents.
Drop of Fear
great grenth-dwayna just came again and still the full district is lagging 50-100seconds. err7 and rollback
GOOD JOB
GOOD JOB
mr_groovy
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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
great grenth-dwayna just came again and still the full district is lagging 50-100seconds. err7 and rollback
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Waiting in kamadan to get my other hat.
Mortis
Getting alot of lag as well at the moment, but this is in the middle of a vanquish. 13k ping or so. GG.
GG.
Traveller
Huge lag and whatever district I've been during the finale hasn't had a event visit at all. Do I have to start idling now in LA D1 to guarantee a working district, eh?
arcanemacabre
Yeah, lag started to build up for everyone in Kamadan d10 few minutes ago (everyone complaining at the same time). I figured something was about to happen, so I went to the guild hall real quick - was fine there.
Cherrie
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It must be a hell of a job for them. I imagine that most of the time LA/Kam only have 2-3 dis with a few hundred people, and suddenly for just one day they get 100s with several hundred of people.
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Croco Clouds
It looks like Grenth wins the Wintersday! wooooo extension!
genofreek
I really, really, really have to second everyone who suggested putting gifts directly into the inventory from now on. Means AFKers don't miss out either. :P The lagspikes don't happen for me until after the presents drop, suggesting that that's the issue. I immediately ran off the rings to register my hat with Ludor and stood way back on Merchant's Row. I still got insane lag and struggled to pick up my gifts, but at least I could move. More or less. My computer could handle it. Also, I wasn't disconnected.
It loses some magic when there aren't sparkling gifts all around the 9 Rings, but I'd rather have it that way than spend 10 minutes staring at one with my name on it and being unable to pick it up. :P
It loses some magic when there aren't sparkling gifts all around the 9 Rings, but I'd rather have it that way than spend 10 minutes staring at one with my name on it and being unable to pick it up. :P
chowmein69
just got errored out when the presents were dropping
Neo Nugget
I err7'd before they even showed up -.-
I D E L E T E D I
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But with Wintersday just two days away, I want players to think about it a bit, about what they might be doing or might be tempted to do, so that they don't risk losing access to one of the best days of the game year.
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Witchblade
nice job, got 1 wintergift this time ^^
BuD
Yup had 6 gifts staring at me with a 88k ping....leading to a Err7
GG Anet!
GG Anet!
yishin
this is getting so annoying.
I lost another hat.
In this years 4 finale only one hat.
I lost another hat.
In this years 4 finale only one hat.
BuD
oh NICE! When I was able to reconnect all the shards I won were gone & I didnt receive the hat.
GG Again!
GG Again!
Tyla
incredible lag spike...couldnt pick up pressies
onerabbit
my ping is 200.. normal for me 
i havent had no problems. I was in dis 4 of LA, stole about 30 pressies w00t =D
i havent had no problems. I was in dis 4 of LA, stole about 30 pressies w00t =D
Crom The Pale
Well, I see they still haven't learned there lessons from previous years...
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The unclaimed gifts + the deaths that keep anyone from picking up even assigned gifts let alone the free ones means that 30 sec after this screen shot the entire district was kicked out and lost everything from there inventorys from the last 30min or so.
Something needed to be done last year, and nothing happened.
Something should be done this year, but nobody will be in GW next year so were SOL!
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The unclaimed gifts + the deaths that keep anyone from picking up even assigned gifts let alone the free ones means that 30 sec after this screen shot the entire district was kicked out and lost everything from there inventorys from the last 30min or so.
Something needed to be done last year, and nothing happened.
Something should be done this year, but nobody will be in GW next year so were SOL!
LifeInfusion
got rollback on mine (I had afked the event) since my cc shards were in my box instead of in inventory
cosyfiep
its NOT the amount of gifts on the ground (see screenie 1 from the 2nd time---lots of afkers at 6am est)..but this last time was HORRIBLE....lost hat and gifts and INSANE lag (see screenie 2).....and we had only about 1/3 as many people in the district.
npbiles66
Just got the 007 again for the second time.
Shadowmere
107,422 was the ping that did me in. Kicked me off after I had collected about 14 or so presents.
I just found it funny so I let the servers cool down a bit, logged back in and all my stuff was gone! no presents, no hat! I had my original amount of cc shards back in their starting position in my storage box.
I do hope that it's just a hiccup and I will get my hat and stuff. Otherwise I'm going to be a bit peeved for wasting a half hour for nothing.
I just found it funny so I let the servers cool down a bit, logged back in and all my stuff was gone! no presents, no hat! I had my original amount of cc shards back in their starting position in my storage box.
I do hope that it's just a hiccup and I will get my hat and stuff. Otherwise I'm going to be a bit peeved for wasting a half hour for nothing.
bhavv
E.p.i.c P.h.a.i.l.u.r.e.
cosyfiep
sorry Shadowmere, prepared to be peeved.....all info was lost...you are back to where you were before it started....hope you have time to get to another time.
Shadowmere
Damn. That really really sucks...not only did I lose a bunch of crap/time but I now also have to run the risk of it happening the next time I try!
if this happens again I'm calling wintersday quits. The crazy lag was amusing but the novelty wears off quick when you lose everything you were there for.
if this happens again I'm calling wintersday quits. The crazy lag was amusing but the novelty wears off quick when you lose everything you were there for.
Curse You
Try putting away your mini pets. They weren't able to be out last year, so they clearly are having some effect.
Neo Nugget
I warped to my GH right after i got my hat, i crashed but i was wearing my hat.....soo maybe that will work for some people.
zwei2stein
Sooo, has anyone managed to use this guarateed rollback to dupe stuff?
wink wink. May this be your wintersday gift from me, you have 2 duping attempts left, make best of it. (i heard armbraces are stuff to go if you want to dupe ;p )
wink wink. May this be your wintersday gift from me, you have 2 duping attempts left, make best of it. (i heard armbraces are stuff to go if you want to dupe ;p )
Nexevo
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Try putting away your mini pets. They weren't able to be out last year, so they clearly are having some effect.
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cosyfiep
I was wearing my hat when I lagged out and it was gone as well as the presents I had managed to pick up and the cc shards were back to the count I had before the event started (and hence when the lag started).
and I dont think it was the minis either since the first event I was at there were too many out to put out one....and we had no lag then either.
and I dont think it was the minis either since the first event I was at there were too many out to put out one....and we had no lag then either.