Dear ANet, Please extend Wintersday
dargon
Personally, I'd rather they didn't release that information as an accurate count will only allow the currently holders to drive the price of an already obscenely expensive minipet beyond it's current astronomical value.
Danax
Yeah, quite a small number if you ask me.
I'd personally be happier if the Polar bear was made available for 1500 shards, yes 1500. That way it'd take work for it, but not be a Panda rarity clone. Of course this comes from someone who DOESN'T have a Panda..
I'd personally be happier if the Polar bear was made available for 1500 shards, yes 1500. That way it'd take work for it, but not be a Panda rarity clone. Of course this comes from someone who DOESN'T have a Panda..
Jake_Steel
I agree with putting it in the Secret lair of the snowmen, even with the same drop rate, so at least we could try for it.
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by dargon
Personally, I'd rather they didn't release that information as an accurate count will only allow the currently holders to drive the price of an already obscenely expensive minipet beyond it's current astronomical value.
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well if only 10 of them exist at the moment no price is obscene 3-4 million players and only 10 mini pb at that number you should not even have enough room in the trade window for all the armbraces and ectos that it is worth, let me refrase that, they are priceless at the moment.
I could understand your QQ about the price of them if a couple thousand or a few hundred thousand droped but not 10 or even 20 or 100 that is still a outragous number compared to the player base of a few million.
Fidelity
The entire community would over run Umbral though o.O!
RTSFirebat
What does it matter?
The drop rate was really low. I know someone who did the run over 300 times and didn't get the polar bear.
If people want to spend 1000s of Ectos (How the heck can they have that many I don't know) on an odd looking mini-pet, then let them
The drop rate was really low. I know someone who did the run over 300 times and didn't get the polar bear.
If people want to spend 1000s of Ectos (How the heck can they have that many I don't know) on an odd looking mini-pet, then let them
Lil Mystique
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Originally Posted by IslandHermet
well if only 10 of them exist at the moment no price is obscene 3-4 million players and only 10 mini pb at that number you should not even have enough room in the trade window for all the armbraces and ectos that it is worth, let me refrase that, they are priceless at the moment.
I could understand your QQ about the price of them if a couple thousand or a few hundred thousand droped but not 10 or even 20 or 100 that is still a outragous number compared to the player base of a few million. |
Bryant Again
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Yes, the droprate is that low. But to my serious knowledge, one.
Yes, the droprate is that low. But to my serious knowledge, one.
Alya
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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
If people want to spend 1000s of Ectos (How the heck can they have that many I don't know) on an odd looking mini-pet, then let them
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(Yes, 7 hours of farming here...)
Day Trooper
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Originally Posted by Ouchie
...they should give the polar Bear to everyone too on January 8th
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Also, my only two real gripes about the event are:
(a) the 'sudden' removal of the Gift Giver collector (even though I luckily had already redeemed all my shards). I can see why this has upset quite a few folks - but really it should be very easy on ANet's part to fix: just add back the collector for a few more days - and in the future give the community fair warning when the collector will disappear.
(b) and of course, the forever-to-be-remembered 'mini-polar-bear fiasco'
Which brings me to my point regarding the quote.
ZOMG! Give everyone this pet now!?!
All you need to do is put yourself in the shoes of the individual who apparently forked over 7300 ectos (36.5 million!!!
) for this mini. How in the world would that make you feel if you were this person - and then ANet turns around and gives the mini-bear to the entire player-base? Wow. That would be infinite times more painful than not getting the mini in the first place - wouldn't it? {/agree}Just some food for thought
And why I think this should be addressed for future minis and not this one...
GloryFox
Yes ANET please extend Wintersday this year. Last year it was rather short. Wintersday should be for about 2 weeks when many players are on break.
Painbringer
I sure hope there is some poor guy/gal that plays maybe once a month that received his presents and got one never to show it or even use it. Tucked away in inventory till the servers go down. That would be Classic.
At least a 100 out there is my guess
At least a 100 out there is my guess
Jeremy Untouchable
cant please everyone, I think having rare mini's is ok...
Skawtt
I doubt they will ever tell us how many dropped. It was an insanely low amount thats for sure. I did that quest 60 times at least. But meh thanks for all the nog and fruitcakes.
Hollow Gein
LOL..spent forever farming for it...nadda. Oh well, if it hasn't already started in Kamadan, KC or LA, "WTS Undedicated Mini-Polar Bear, 100k+a billzillion ecto..RARE!!"...
Avatar Of Virtue
Just another mini pet. Doesn't take much to get people worked up now a days. :P People only want what they cannot acquire. If the drop rate was higher and people got them, everyone would say "blah whatever, another pet to take up inventory.." It is not particularly "cool" like say a water djinn or a charr shaman.
Nyghtslave
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Originally Posted by Avatar Of Virtue
..... It is not particularly "cool" like say a water djinn or a charr shaman.
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Yes it is!
I pwnd U
For any of you who think that the mini pet will appear in the Chest of Wintersday Past.
This is from the thread by Witchblade that brought the mini pet to Guru users. So it looks like we have to wait till next year to farm the little guy some more.
(Thread link:http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...17#post3499117)
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
There are two kinds of chests:
The Wintersday Chest -- This is the chest that is available only through two special Wintersday quests. The Chest of Wintersday Past -- This is the chest that stands at all times at the end of the Secret Lair of the Snowmen quest. The only chest that will provide the Miniature Polar Bear is the Wintersday Chest, and that will be gone very soon, likely sometime tonight. Will it return during Wintersday 2008? That's pretty likely. |
(Thread link:http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...17#post3499117)
Lil Mystique
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Originally Posted by Avatar Of Virtue
Just another mini pet. Doesn't take much to get people worked up now a days. :P People only want what they cannot acquire. If the drop rate was higher and people got them, everyone would say "blah whatever, another pet to take up inventory.." It is not particularly "cool" like say a water djinn or a charr shaman.
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Leslie
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Originally Posted by Lil Mystique
Not everyone feels that way about minipets. The ones I have either have a "cuteness" factor or sentimental value. I could care less about if they are rare or not and I'm sure there are many more like me.
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moko
stop with the bear madness imo.
get over it already, and be excited for next year. or gogo save up and buy them. :>
besides, i honestly don't think Gaile could know such a thing, and tbh, i don't think anyone that can tell you cares enough to look it up and share.
get over it already, and be excited for next year. or gogo save up and buy them. :>
besides, i honestly don't think Gaile could know such a thing, and tbh, i don't think anyone that can tell you cares enough to look it up and share.
ReSpAwNeD
Okay lets think about the length of Wintersday here. GW is not even 3 years old yet.
I was here for the first Wintersday... I recall it ending right after the finale festival. (supposedly Dwayna had won)
Then there was last year. It extended for like 2 weeks. This is said to be due to an earth quake to allow those folks a chance to participate. (supposedly Grenth had won)
This year... no natural disasters. Ended abruptly with out warning (Dwayna wins?).
Do you see a pattern here? Next year Grenth will probably win.... maybe... and it will be extended... maybe... or ... it was only meant to go 12 days and end right after the festival. Some communication here from Anet as to how long that festival is going to last would be good and when to kiss the npc's bubyee!
I really like the idea that they should have randomly fallen out of wintersday presents that would have been cool. As it sits I haven't opened any of mine.
I'm okay with there being rare mini's but yet again they waited for it to be discovered and showed up nearly the last day of the event? hmm. Can't tell me no one farmed that quest for the duration of it. Not to mention those quests didn't show up til well after the decorations and collectors.
When I sit here and think about the fairness of it and how I thought it sucked because so extremely few have it. I sit there and think about how someone mentioned "what about Factions only players?" Can you believe that some people still only have Prophecies? Lots of people still do not have Eye of the North and couldn't even play the quest at all. This was planned, but why?
Why take ultra rare weapons and make them available to all including PvP only players? Why destroy the economy weapon wise/dye/ectos/but put mini pets on a pedestal? I don't get it?
I was here for the first Wintersday... I recall it ending right after the finale festival. (supposedly Dwayna had won)
Then there was last year. It extended for like 2 weeks. This is said to be due to an earth quake to allow those folks a chance to participate. (supposedly Grenth had won)
This year... no natural disasters. Ended abruptly with out warning (Dwayna wins?).
Do you see a pattern here? Next year Grenth will probably win.... maybe... and it will be extended... maybe... or ... it was only meant to go 12 days and end right after the festival. Some communication here from Anet as to how long that festival is going to last would be good and when to kiss the npc's bubyee!
I really like the idea that they should have randomly fallen out of wintersday presents that would have been cool. As it sits I haven't opened any of mine.
I'm okay with there being rare mini's but yet again they waited for it to be discovered and showed up nearly the last day of the event? hmm. Can't tell me no one farmed that quest for the duration of it. Not to mention those quests didn't show up til well after the decorations and collectors.
When I sit here and think about the fairness of it and how I thought it sucked because so extremely few have it. I sit there and think about how someone mentioned "what about Factions only players?" Can you believe that some people still only have Prophecies? Lots of people still do not have Eye of the North and couldn't even play the quest at all. This was planned, but why?
Why take ultra rare weapons and make them available to all including PvP only players? Why destroy the economy weapon wise/dye/ectos/but put mini pets on a pedestal? I don't get it?
bhavv
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Originally Posted by Mokone
stop with the bear madness imo.
get over it already, and be excited for next year. or gogo save up and buy them. :> |
Good luck to everyone that want a bear for buying one of the 2 - 10 polar bears currently in the game.
/fail.
Just because your not personally bothered about the whole bear issue, doesnt mean that other players arent kay?
Chicken Ftw
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Originally Posted by bhavv
No we wont stop.
Good luck to everyone that want a bear for buying one of the 2 - 10 polar bears currently in the game. /fail. Just because your not personally bothered about the whole bear issue, doesnt mean that other players arent kay? |
/fail
Just because you're bothered by the whole bear issue, doesn't mean people can't express common sense in their posts, kay?
Mork from Ork
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Originally Posted by ReSpAwNeD
Why take ultra rare weapons and make them available to all including PvP only players? Why destroy the economy weapon wise/dye/ectos/but put mini pets on a pedestal? I don't get it? |
Same goes for the minis - having taken weapons out of the "rare" category, they need some kind of item that will stimulate the same kind of interest. Minis fit the bill easily. They are easy to make. The basic model is already done all they need to do is change the size ratio. It is an easy way to make a rare object that will keep people excited for a short time.
In the end, however, the long term effects of taking short cuts like this may be quite high - ruined economy, etc.
Ouchie
they really should give one to everyone who missed out on getting the bear - ummm just like say the hats
Zeek Aran
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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
Because QQing about it incessantly on forums will get something done? Don't get your hopes up.
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Nyghtslave
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Originally Posted by Mokone
stop with the bear madness imo.
get over it already, and be excited for next year. or gogo save up and buy them. :> besides, i honestly don't think Gaile could know such a thing, and tbh, i don't think anyone that can tell you cares enough to look it up and share. |
ReSpAwNeD
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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
Because QQing about it incessantly on forums will get something done? Don't get your hopes up.
/fail Just because you're bothered by the whole bear issue, doesn't mean people can't express common sense in their posts, kay? |
Result: Dedicated even sellable mini's GJ Anet!
I personally know of 3. Witchblade admittedly has one, Someone from LaZy guild came to my GH (friend of guildies) and showed it to me. And another guy not related to the other 2 I saw in Kamadan = 3 for me that I know about.
pygar
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Originally Posted by ReSpAwNeD
When I sit here and think about the fairness of it and how I thought it sucked because so extremely few have it. I sit there and think about how someone mentioned "what about Factions only players?" Can you believe that some people still only have Prophecies? Lots of people still do not have Eye of the North and couldn't even play the quest at all. This was planned, but why? |
Chrono Re delle Ere
I think that the drop rate is something like 0.003% or something...
Doing 300 runs mean you have nearly 1% chance to get it xD
Doing 300 runs mean you have nearly 1% chance to get it xD
Shadowmoon
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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
Because QQing about it incessantly on forums will get something done? Don't get your hopes up.
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The mass banning from tranfering gold was addmitedly called a mistake because people QQ about it
Valor in the HoM was changed because people QQ about it
GW has no offical forum for people to give their complaints to, unlike other games, so as long as guru is the "elite fansite" it has to serve that purpose.
And personally I like saying what I dislike and finding other who agree with me. Many voices are better than jsut one.
Also Gaile might not know, but she can find out.
Jongo River
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Untouchable
cant please everyone, I think having rare mini's is ok...
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Oh, and I disagree - I think that if the polar bear had been made widely available, enough people would have been pleased to consider it "everyone".
beanerman_99
If I had one drop for me I would keep it. I don't really desire the obscene wealth that these are worth. There isn't really anything in the game that I would buy with money, but thats just me.
I would keep it cause its cool looking and the unique-ness factor.
I would keep it cause its cool looking and the unique-ness factor.
Woop Shotty
If any polar bear owners want to pass theirs along to make it look like more were dropped than actually were: my hands are open. I'll of course pass it on again.
leprekan
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Originally Posted by Mork from Ork
This part I think I can answer - making rare weapons available, as in EotN means not having to design as many new weapon skins. They are re-using old designs and people get a thrill out of finding them until reality hits and they realize the skin they paid 100k + ectos for 3 months ago has dropped to less than 30k. It is a short term solution that involves less work.
Same goes for the minis - having taken weapons out of the "rare" category, they need some kind of item that will stimulate the same kind of interest. Minis fit the bill easily. They are easy to make. The basic model is already done all they need to do is change the size ratio. It is an easy way to make a rare object that will keep people excited for a short time. In the end, however, the long term effects of taking short cuts like this may be quite high - ruined economy, etc. |
Crystallines
Dwarven axe
Serpent axe
Hall of Heroes only items now reduced to common. Not to mention the other used to be rare skins dropping from ha and zaishen chests now.
Point is Anet actually went out of their way to make these items worth less by making them easy to obtain. Those items were in the game in a reasonable number before Anet decided to make them worthless. People had a reasonable chance at obtaining one.
Now enter the minis .. a miniscule number put in the game with no chance of getting one outside a few stacks of armbraces.
This is what I would LOVE to hear Anet respond to.
Smile Like Umean It
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Originally Posted by Mokone
stop with the bear madness imo.
get over it already, and be excited for next year. or gogo save up and buy them. :> besides, i honestly don't think Gaile could know such a thing, and tbh, i don't think anyone that can tell you cares enough to look it up and share. |
Though it was a nice gestured, it was horribly implemented. Besides, if no one ever said anything how would they know?
And, yeah, I would have like one (didn't do the quest once), but I'm not going to be in an uproar about it. If they decided to add more as a final hoorah, but in limited numbers and I got one, I wouldn't sell it. If they decided to add them by the thousands I still wouldn't sell it. I don't want it for the money. I think it looks adorable and maybe it'll offer me a coke one day.
Saraphim
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Originally Posted by Yichi
edit: and back on topic: people actually care about this?
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pygar
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Originally Posted by leprekan
Point is Anet actually went out of their way to make these items worth less by making them easy to obtain. Those items were in the game in a reasonable number before Anet decided to make them worthless. People had a reasonable chance at obtaining one. |
I see people talking talking a lot about "the economy" through all this..... I have to say at this time that "the economy" is my least favorite part of the whole game, and really is the root of people's anger on this thread. "The economy" as I see it right now are a bunch of people that have all the stuff and have nothing better to do but to make a game out of trading it, bragging about how low they can buy stuff and how high they can sell it for, and then a bunch of new people that are frustrated by the fact that they can sweep and clear whole areas and barely have 1 or 2 plat to show for it, let alone have any "valuable" stuff that other players want. The "haves" own the "have nots" in the open market, because it is so hard to get anything of real value early in the game, that the people sellin their stuff in Kamadan are holding all the cards when you go to negotiate a trade with them. Long story short, most of the gripe in this thread is stemmed from either the idea that people desperate to get something really nice missed out again, and on the other hand people who have all the other stuff are pissed because a new shiny toy that everybody else wants but they dont have actually diminishes the "value" of thier stuff.
The game isn't ruining the economy, the economy is ruining the game.
Nyghtslave
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Originally Posted by Saraphim
I don't. I can't believe how bent out of shape people are getting over a mini pet.
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