Dear ANet, Please extend Wintersday

Originally Posted by Nyghtslave

Perhaps because curiosity is in the human nature?

Originally Posted by pygar

No...Anet went out of thier way to make these available to those of us who have not been playing for over 2 years, not to make them worthless. Stuff that you say is easily attainable does not appear so easy to people new to the game who do not have piles of ectos and weapons they got before the big farming nerfs. People new to the game do not have a reasonable chance at that stuff at all without some of the new means.

I see people talking talking a lot about "the economy" through all this..... I have to say at this time that "the economy" is my least favorite part of the whole game, and really is the root of people's anger on this thread. "The economy" as I see it right now are a bunch of people that have all the stuff and have nothing better to do but to make a game out of trading it, bragging about how low they can buy stuff and how high they can sell it for....these same people own newbs in the market, because it is so hard to get anything of real value early in the game, that the people sellin their stuff in Kamadan are holding all the cards when you go to negotiate a trade with them. Long story short, most of the gripe in this thread is stemmed from either the idea that people desperate to get something really nice missed out again, and on the other hand people who have all the other stuff are pissed because a new shiny toy that everybody else wants but they dont have actually diminishes the "value" of thier stuff.

The game isn't ruining the economy, the economy is ruining the game.

Originally Posted by Saraphim

Well yes, amongst many other things. Tbh the fact that I don't care probably isn't even relevant to this thread so I expect I should've just kept out of it. I certainly have no intention of joining in the flamefests that the other threads have turned into.

Originally Posted by pygar

No...Anet went out of thier way to make these available to those of us who have not been playing for over 2 years, not to make them worthless. Stuff that you say is easily attainable does not appear so easy to people new to the game who do not have piles of ectos and weapons they got before the big farming nerfs. People new to the game do not have a reasonable chance at that stuff at all without some of the new means.

Originally Posted by leprekan

Sorry, but those weapon skins were actually within reach of anyone that would put the effort into getting one. Those items could be attained by playing PVP or farming to purchase one. They did not have to made so common that my heroes use them.

The ultra rare minis are out of reach of almost EVERYONE in the game. They come with a set number which then makes them priceless. The PvP reward ones they could at least defend with .. the top PvP people worked for them. The polar bear is another story.

Please feel free to explain to me how a "new" person will generate stacks of armbraces to be able to purchase said minis (without duping and Ebay).

Originally Posted by ReSpAwNeD

They can make an Amethyst Aegis all glittering and sparkling and a Tormented Shied quite desireable to the eye but they make a hat made of ice a top your head look like granite shards. Why? I have to wonder how disappointed the original artist feels about it.

Originally Posted by pygar

My understanding on farming these days is you are not going to get much of anything cool unless in HM. I am 4/5 of the way thru nightfall, and seriously even though I am near to saving the world I feel like sometimes I should trade in my rangers bow for a parks and rec department trash picker...because thats what kind of treasure is out there "easily for new ppl to get".

New people will never catch up to the wealth of the people who have been around since before the farm nerfs, because the rungs have been torn from the ladder....but despite being a newb and not having sstacks of ectos, I did have access to the polar bear mish, and the mish was easy so if I was just plain luckier, i would have got one....and it would have been such an outrageously uber drop compared to all the other stuff I've gotten I probably would have had a freakin heart attack. I believe the Polar mini, the Z-chests and BMP are equalizers for the economy....finally giving newbs like me a shot at least at gettin something good enough to trade.

Originally Posted by ReSpAwNeD

I didn't mean for this to turn into an economy chat or lack their of. I just don't understand why they are making mini's incredibly valuable and why they are making what used to be incredibly valueable worthless. I recently obtained something that was worth a lot of cash out of HoH. I sold it. I heard that before the Zaishen chest I would have gotten 4x more than what I sold it for. As is I had to endure being laughed at for asking the going price for it. Something isn't right with that.

I don't think things should be handed to everyone but when we're talking about a festival item here..... that you didnt' have to win a snowball fight tournament for or anything like that.... c'mon?

Originally Posted by leprekan

You haven't even beaten a chapter and you are complaining about wealth distribution?

If anything new people have it EASY compared to those of us that started at launch. I remember a max damage weapon being something to go oooooo over. Anet introduced GREENS as the equalizer for new people .. they didn't have to kill desireable weapon skins value to do it. Loot scaling and farm code suck for everyone not just new people. This is hardly the thread for that.

I am sorry if you feel I am being unreasonable because I do not agee with the introduction of ANOTHER mini that is out of reach of almost every gw player.

Originally Posted by guildwars101

not pissed about the pet its self...im angry cuz guildwars gave about 10 peeps the title of richest people in guildwars overnight cuz of dumb luck

Originally Posted by You can't see me

Quotes from Gaile Suggest that the BMP will be made available in the future, when in the first place it was "Understood" that it was a one time offer.

Originally Posted by X Earth X

If it was a mini like the piggie, you people would still whine.

Seriously, get over it.

Originally Posted by netniwk

Then again,the mini pig is the cutest of all.

Originally Posted by Avatar Of Virtue

Just another mini pet... It is not particularly "cool" like say a water djinn or a charr shaman.

Originally Posted by Jeremy Untouchable

cant please everyone, I think having rare mini's is ok...

Originally Posted by ReSpAwNeD

Should Anet then put Ectos and Rubies and Sapphires and Obsidian Shards in the chest as well? So that people who haven't played for 2 years be able to 'easily' obtain stuff that everyone else has grinded their buns off for? Any and all farming nerfs happened before I obtained my little in game fancies. I didn't even know how to farm when it was all being nerfed away. Would I expect the game to change for me since I don't know how to play it? No, rather I learn how to play it and obtain it instead.

I didn't mean for this to turn into an economy chat or lack their of. I just don't understand why they are making mini's incredibly valuable and why they are making what used to be incredibly valueable worthless. I recently obtained something that was worth a lot of cash out of HoH. I sold it. I heard that before the Zaishen chest I would have gotten 4x more than what I sold it for. As is I had to endure being laughed at for asking the going price for it. Something isn't right with that.

I don't think things should be handed to everyone but when we're talking about a festival item here..... that you didnt' have to win a snowball fight tournament for or anything like that.... c'mon?

Originally Posted by leprekan

Sorry, but those weapon skins were actually within reach of anyone that would put the effort into getting one. Those items could be attained by playing PVP or farming to purchase one. They did not have to made so common that my heroes use them.

The ultra rare minis are out of reach of almost EVERYONE in the game. They come with a set number which then makes them priceless. The PvP reward ones they could at least defend with .. the top PvP people worked for them. The polar bear is another story.

Please feel free to explain to me how a "new" person will generate stacks of armbraces to be able to purchase said minis (without duping and Ebay).

This is not about the economy but a reasonable chance at a desireable itemBut it did do a great job of pissing off a large percentage of the fan base! If that was their goal .. job well done is in order!

This pet should be put in the chest of wintersday past. Or was their goal to create another mini that 99.99999999999999999999% of their player base will never have access to?

HINT: Anet dont drive off too many people with gw2 this far out .. they may not come back

Not the best attitude to get people to keep handing over their money for new products. Understandable reaction .. yet still counterproductive.

Putting minis in the game that 99.999999999999999% of your player base will NEVER be able to have is brilliant! What kind of reaction did you really expect? People are sick of not even being able to get a panda now the polar bear is launched for 10 people or less.

You guys go OUT of your way to make weapon skins common to the point they are worthless. Then put minis in the game in such absurdly low numbers that they inspire Ebay purchases. Sorry my IQ of 142 is having a difficult time grasping the sense in that.

Originally Posted by pygar

My understanding on farming these days is you are not going to get much of anything cool unless in HM. I am 4/5 of the way thru nightfall, and seriously even though I am near to saving the world I feel like sometimes I should trade in my rangers bow for a parks and rec department trash picker...because thats what kind of treasure is out there "easily for new ppl to get".

New people will never catch up to the wealth of the people who have been around since before the farm nerfs, because the rungs have been torn from the ladder....but despite being a newb and not having sstacks of ectos, I did have access to the polar bear mish, and the mish was easy so if I was just plain luckier, i would have got one....and it would have been such an outrageously uber drop compared to all the other stuff I've gotten I probably would have had a freakin heart attack. I believe the Polar mini, the Z-chests and BMP are equalizers for the economy....finally giving newbs like me a shot at least at gettin something good enough to trade

No...Anet went out of thier way to make these available to those of us who have not been playing for over 2 years, not to make them worthless. Stuff that you say is easily attainable does not appear so easy to people new to the game who do not have piles of ectos and weapons they got before the big farming nerfs. People new to the game do not have a reasonable chance at that stuff at all without some of the new means.

I see people talking talking a lot about "the economy" through all this..... I have to say at this time that "the economy" is my least favorite part of the whole game, and really is the root of people's anger on this thread. "The economy" as I see it right now are a bunch of people that have all the stuff and have nothing better to do but to make a game out of trading it, bragging about how low they can buy stuff and how high they can sell it for, and then a bunch of new people that are frustrated by the fact that they can sweep and clear whole areas and barely have 1 or 2 plat to show for it, let alone have any "valuable" stuff that other players want. The "haves" own the "have nots" in the open market, because it is so hard to get anything of real value early in the game, that the people sellin their stuff in Kamadan are holding all the cards when you go to negotiate a trade with them. Long story short, most of the gripe in this thread is stemmed from either the idea that people desperate to get something really nice missed out again, and on the other hand people who have all the other stuff are pissed because a new shiny toy that everybody else wants but they dont have actually diminishes the "value" of thier stuff.

The game isn't ruining the economy, the economy is ruining the game.

Originally Posted by Mokone

stop with the bear madness imo.

get over it already, and be excited for next year. or gogo save up and buy them. :>

besides, i honestly don't think Gaile could know such a thing, and tbh, i don't think anyone that can tell you cares enough to look it up and share.

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

More info: The miniature has been in the chest the entire festival. 12 days. It was not added, it was only just retrieved towards the end of the Wintersday Festival and for all we know, more may be "out there" but we just haven't heard about them yet. (Edit to add: Let me make that clear. I am not confirming that only Witchblade has this miniature. Not at all. We haven't pulled files to see how many were retrieved, and it's pretty unlikely only one is there.)

Oh, and I fixed the GWW page so that the distinction between the two chests is clear there, as well.

Originally Posted by pygar

Oh you bet I'l gripe about wealth distribution...I've never played a game where the treasure was so tight, but on the other hand the nicest stuff sells for comparitive millions. And I am correct, the reason people are mad about the Polar Mini is about the economy. Maybe the next mini's they make, they should make like the BMP rewards that you cant sell.....see how everybody feels about that.

Basicly I am gathering that you are in the category of people I mentioned before, the ones that are angry about the Bear because you dont have it, and it's existence makes your shiny stuff a little less shiny now. You wouldnt even be here griping if you were one of the lucky that got the Bear.

Originally Posted by manitoba1073

pygar- I'm not really sure where to start on ur posts. But you need to play the game a little longer is a start. The reasons why new people will never catch up to us old timers that have a wealth way more than you can imagine is due to Anerfs own fault. Take the crystalinnes and those styled rare items. They used to drop in PvE long ago then Anerf removed them from PvE and made them PvP only items for a long time till EoTN. Anet caused those to skyrocket by reducing the avaialibilty. (so much for Anerf not controlling the economy and prices huh) Its anet who continually adjusts such things that are ruining the game. By the way the price you was given on ur q9 suarin scythe was rather high. They are fairly easy to get so yeah you should have sold it for 40k. Theres more but I just dont feel like going into more right now .

Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

Nah the bear won't get more common, but i think, judging by its gold color, that it probably isn't as rare as ghostly hero, and possibly the mallyx drops. I believe that they will place the bear in the wintersday chest in the dungeon. Where it will be farmed and farmed and farmed.... Anyways, gaile apologized and its ok now

Originally Posted by Chrono Re delle Ere

I think that the drop rate is something like 0.003% or something...

Doing 300 runs mean you have nearly 1% chance to get it xD