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Fril Estelin

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03 Jan 2008 at 23:48 - 201

To all, please read this message from Gaile:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...82#post3499082

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Guys,

We're very sorry about this mixup! Bottom line: Yes, that little critter is genuine, and we're sorry that the OP has been a little griefed about this!

What happened was, the code has been in place for over a year, but we didn't enable it until this Wintersday event. I had been asked about the in the DAT file a long time ago, but I knew it was not enabled in the game at that time. Well, it was added to the game in a clever stealth update by some of the designers, and not even we (Community Team members) knew it was there! (I figure they did that because they already knew of my obsession with the Wintersday Event, and with the quests, and they knew I'd be in there 24/7, pushing people out of the way, scrambling to get up close and personal with the Rift Warden, etc., etc.

)

As for warning: The team designed not to announce the presence of this new miniature, but let it be discovered, just as we did for the Ghostly Hero and Mini Mallyx. That's why we didn't give warning.

Sorry for the delay in responding and congratulations to Witchblade. If you ever need a babysitter for the little guy, let me know.

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

03 Jan 2008 at 23:48 - 202

Quote:

Originally Posted by obastable

My biggest gripe with Anet is allowing the lie regarding the Polar Bear mini to perpetuate until the last minute. Gaile posted on the 28th denying its existence, then counters, apologizes, and confirms it 5 days later... approximately 24 hours before the event ends.

This does not constitute acceptable business practice. "Sorry" is not a magical word. Excuses and apologies do not turn back time nor do they fix a problem or offer a solution.

I do want, and fully expect, and explanation and solution to the problem of Anets "oversight" on the polar bear matter.

This is possibly the best post to explain the real problem with the polar mini....it's not that it exists and we dont have it, its that it really feels like something shifty and underhanded just happened. People are feeling like they have been cheated somehow, and if nothing else just want answers or extra chances at something big that they missed. In a game where treasure of any real value is so hard to come by, it is easy to understand how bent people are about the whole deal.

I dont want an extension, I had enough fun with the festival and am ready to go back to my usual grinds......think after everything it is really wierd how now the snow is still there, but the quests are gone...and u can get free hats, but most people were pretty dis-interested in those. (at least I am)

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

03 Jan 2008 at 23:50 - 203

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yichi

Wow does no one know how to read of comprehend anything anymore. Look back on EVERY post I have made about this. Far too many people are either posting because they do want to sell it, or feel that just because a couple people got one and that they didnt, they feel that the event should be extended so they can try to get one.

The simple fact of the matter is that the minipet is a rare drop. hence the word, "RARE"!!!

The word rare according to the Miriam-Webster dictionary (www.m-w.com)

Please feel free to read the highlighted part.

Now tell me where in there that just because you want one, or just because there is one in the game, that means you are entitled to it or that you are guarenteed such an item? Rare drops exist for a reason and just because you had a limited time to get one (that we know of for now) does not mean that you are guarenteed one.

Anet added this prize without telling anyone, the same as they did for the mini ghostly hero, and even now there are only a handful out there and this prize has been in the game for months now. Hence the definition of the phrase "rare drop."

If this is still too hard to grasp, read point 3 in the definitions of the word "rare".

lol - I had a good laugh over this one.

People are saying they are unhappy something is too rare that should be more common or that they are unhappy that ANet lied and your solution is to give a definition of rare?

(I also like how you invited people to read the highlighted part and then highlighted the whole thing)

Can you say "non sequitur"?

/changes shoes and puts on sweater

Fril Estelin

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03 Jan 2008 at 23:54 - 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by pygar

People are feeling like they have been cheated somehow, and if nothing else just want answers or extra chances at something big that they missed.

I think that some people are simply too greedy and sometimes are blinded by their feelings, even if they do not feel like they're acting emotionally. If you read Gaile's message above, you'll cleary see that:

As for warning: The team designed not to announce the presence of this new miniature, but let it be discovered, just as we did for the Ghostly Hero and Mini Mallyx. That's why we didn't give warning.

I guess that most some people have been given so much by Anet, that they're now expecting everything to be told beforehand and nothing to be discovered anymore.

Fril Estelin

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03 Jan 2008 at 23:56 - 205

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Swift

ANet lied

Did I miss an episode of the "Polar Bear chronicles"? (btw go and see the fantastic "The goldben compass"

) Are you referering to the fact that Gaile made a mistake on this forum and then apologized?

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

03 Jan 2008 at 23:58 - 206

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

I guess that most some people have been given so much by Anet, that they're now expecting everything to be told beforehand and nothing to be discovered anymore.

They want their gifts, but they hate surprises.

truemyths

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

03 Jan 2008 at 23:59 - 207

dear anet,

It's not too late, pretty please with sugar on top?

chessyang

Not far from Elite

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Florida

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:01 - 208

/signed ...... some what

hum... can they at least put some of collectors back in?

sorry but i forgot to trade in some of items =( oh well i'll just pack them back up in storage for next year.

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

04 Jan 2008 at 00:05 - 209

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

I think that some people are simply too greedy and sometimes are blinded by their feelings, even if they do not feel like they're acting emotionally. If you read Gaile's message above, you'll cleary see that:

As for warning: The team designed not to announce the presence of this new miniature, but let it be discovered, just as we did for the Ghostly Hero and Mini Mallyx. That's why we didn't give warning.

I guess that most some people have been given so much by Anet, that they're now expecting everything to be told beforehand and nothing to be discovered anymore.

Oh yeah, I can see that. The real rub is the denial about the mini prior to the event I think. I am sure it has more to do with miscommunication over the holidays than any kind of sinister motive. Unfortunatly some people now feel like they can trust A-net info as much as they trust what the CIA tells them, and that is not good.

Eldin

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America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

04 Jan 2008 at 00:07 - 210

/notsigned

That is like the complaints about making the Bonus Mission Pack buyable in the store. You missed your chance, oh well, play again next year.

Plus, the Wintersday ness is starting to remind me of MY holidays...which are now over! :'(

Yichi

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:07 - 211

Quote:

Originally Posted by pygar

Oh yeah, I can see that. The real rub is the denial about the mini prior to the event I think. I am sure it has more to do with miscommunication over the holidays than any kind of sinister motive. Unfortunatly some people now feel like they can trust A-net info as much as they trust what the CIA tells them, and that is not good.

ask anyone in the PvP community if they trust anet's info.....

UnKn0wN415

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Bay Area

Looking 4 PvP Guild!

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:08 - 212

all I want is for them to bring back CC npc...

Fril Estelin

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:10 - 213

Quote:

Originally Posted by pygar

Unfortunatly some people now feel like they can trust A-net info as much as they trust what the CIA tells them, and that is not good.

Yeah, but some people are mistaken and will confuse the CIA which deals with real life-threatening things (including real torture of real prisoners) with Anet than manages a game where they have a virtual character. And even worse, these people do not realise that trust is not built on a single individual event (though it is more difficult to earn than to loose).

I'm 100% sure that if most of these people put aside their greed, they'll clearly see that they overreacted. I guess a few will not trust them any more, but then they'll move ahead, possibly away from GW, while most will have accepted the situation in a few days/weeks.

It's just a game

.

Dear Anet, please sure that it snows where I live!

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

04 Jan 2008 at 00:13 - 214

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

Plus, the Wintersday ness is starting to remind me of MY holidays...which are now over! :'(

Sigh, yeah. The whole QQing saga reminds me of Back to Work/School post-holiday blues. All I wanted for Christmas was a Polar Bear, but all I got was this battery operated singing tea-cosy. What do I do with that?

I could post a great LOLcat I saw today, but that may start another bad chain reaction.

"Nooooes! Don't take away my chrismus!"

Fril Estelin

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:17 - 215

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

I could post a great LOLcat I saw today

I laughed at that

. For the Polar Bear, do not worry, because there's Philipp Pullman's "His Dark Material" trilogy or "The golden compass" on the big screen

.

Archaic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:33 - 216

In the end, the only people who want the Wintersday festival to not end, are one of two types of people.

A) They want the collectors to horde alcohol and sweets.
or
B) They want a miniature polar bear <some of you>because they are greedy. </someofyou>

Neither of which are fair or plausible. Simply because, Wintersday is a festival that runs from Christmas to the New Year, not a week after New Years. No one can give a non-money motivated reason as to why they want to keep Wintersday around, because, frankly, after 2 weeks, no one loves the decorations or the annoying people selling orr emblems, or charr carvings by the thousands.

For the second time in this thread, and hopefully the last...

/notsigned.

Ephidel

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:36 - 217

As much as I'd like to comment on how great a series His Dark Materials is, stuff like this takes precedence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

You guys are all retarded. Wintersday is a privilege that Anet gave to us for a week or two. They didn't have to do this, and they didn't have to activate that mini polar bear thing or tell us about it. Now quit whining and go out for a beer or something. Staying at home 24/7 having your mommy watch over you will only make you a whiny little brat over a computer game special event.

Getting really tired of this "stop complaining about free things" I'm hearing from some of you (though I must say spamming a thread you disagree with with cat pictures until it gets closed is even worse). ANet should work to deliver quality content to the players if they want to keep receiving patronage. Now, I'm not saying I'm personally going to quit over a couple hats and a polar bear, but this kind of poorly executed event (lag, bad hat textures, and a super-rare polar bear to help kill the economy) is what makes the customer start to lose faith in ANet.

Personally, I say all they need to do is bring back the candy cane shard collector and make the polar bear more possible to get. That way, we have the same amount of time to get rid of them as last year. We don't need the other Wintersday collectors, just that guy. And no Candy Cane Shard drops. Does THIS seem less money motivated than most of you are inclined to believe? I don't even care about getting the polar bear for myself at the moment, but making it so super-rare only hurts, not helps.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

04 Jan 2008 at 00:38 - 218

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

I laughed at that

. For the Polar Bear, do not worry, because there's Philipp Pullman's "His Dark Material" trilogy or "The golden compass" on the big screen

.

I only want a mini polar bear if it has armor, and not that bright shiny stuff, it has to be dented and rusty.

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

04 Jan 2008 at 00:40 - 219

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

/notsigned

That is like the complaints about making the Bonus Mission Pack buyable in the store. You missed your chance, oh well, play again next year.

Plus, the Wintersday ness is starting to remind me of MY holidays...which are now over! :'(

Funny you should mention that one, the BMP deal is way more aggrivating to me than the polar bear mini.....the polar bear mini will likely be available before next year (wintersday past chest, 3rd year B-day, Zaishen chest) and at least i had a few hours to try for the bear. Since I only started GW after haloween this year, I never had a shot at the BMP. (least til they run another promo) The bear is just a toy, whereas the BMP has fun sounding quest that i would love to try, and then the rewards for said quests are nice looking weapons you can pick and choose, instead of hoping against the odds you get that oh so perfect random drop. To top it all off the BMP is an incentive to buy stuff thru the online store...but is not available thru the online store, and yes I think that is dumber than a box full of rocks.

A quick question too, it is human nature to feel bummed when you miss out on stuff.... is there some kind of joy for you that comes from jumping into a forum and tellin people "tough cookies, eat s**t and like it"? Must be because that seems to be a common theme amongst people who arent the ones complaining about festival stuff here.

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

04 Jan 2008 at 00:46 - 220

How many of the current mini pets are obtainable in more then one way?

None?

Thats a good indication we wont be able to get anymore untill next wintersday, but I wish that I had known about it since day one.

Theres people in the game now that still dont know about it. All other minipets were announced or we had a decent amount of time to get them if we wanted in the case of ones that werent. But this was pretty much a two week only secret.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

04 Jan 2008 at 00:50 - 221

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ephidel

Personally, I say all they need to do is bring back the candy cane shard collector and make the polar bear more possible to get. That way, we have the same amount of time to get rid of them as last year.

Actually, you've had since Dec 21st to cash in your CC shards. That's ten days.

Last year, the cc shard collector didn't become available until Dec 31st. He was only available for a week after that because of Wintersday being extended for the Asian players. If all had been normal, he would have been available for one whole day last year.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

04 Jan 2008 at 00:52 - 222

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

I think that some people are simply too greedy and sometimes are blinded by their feelings, even if they do not feel like they're acting emotionally. If you read Gaile's message above, you'll cleary see that:

As for warning: The team designed not to announce the presence of this new miniature, but let it be discovered, just as we did for the Ghostly Hero and Mini Mallyx. That's why we didn't give warning.

I guess that most some people have been given so much by Anet, that they're now expecting everything to be told beforehand and nothing to be discovered anymore.

Ok first point.. Gaile said she didn't know, then goes on to say The Team, and we... implying in the community that they (Gaile) did know.

Second point, the difference between the polar bear and the Ghostly Hero, Mini Mallyx is that you can attempt to get those rare drops 365 days of the year.

Fact is Gaile denied the polar bear when it was discovered...then the day before the events end says opps my bad. Making those that were discovered instant super money makers. And if that doesn't screw the in game economy up, what does?

(Love me, Hate me, I have nothing better to do that surf these boards and voice my discontent since I have quit playing the game)

Kissable Krissy

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:57 - 223

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaic

In the end, the only people who want the Wintersday festival to not end, are one of two types of people.

A) They want the collectors to horde alcohol and sweets.
or
B) They want a miniature polar bear <some of you>because they are greedy. </someofyou>

Neither of which are fair or plausible. Simply because, Wintersday is a festival that runs from Christmas to the New Year, not a week after New Years. No one can give a non-money motivated reason as to why they want to keep Wintersday around, because, frankly, after 2 weeks, no one loves the decorations or the annoying people selling orr emblems, or charr carvings by the thousands.

For the second time in this thread, and hopefully the last...

/notsigned.

/agree 100% I had 2 stacks of CC shards I had to hold from last year's Wintersday. If I can do it, you can too!

Since when do we have to have so much confirmation to go and farm something. You guys seem to need more proof than my university professors before you will believe something. This is a game. I thought the surprise of a new polar bear mini was actually kind of nice. They slipped something past us. GG Anet.

/notsigned.

Its over, get over it, let's move on.

kthxbai

Yichi

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04 Jan 2008 at 00:58 - 224

cc shards always turn into glittering dust and glit dust is usable for many things

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

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Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

04 Jan 2008 at 00:58 - 225

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yichi

Ok a few things here youre mistaken or backwards on.

3.) This mini polar bear is not a festival prize.

How can you say its not a festival prize.

1) It only available while wintersday
2) It is only available from a quest that is available while wintersday
3) It is only available from a chest that appears in a quest that is only available while wintersday

wintersday = festival

polar bear = festival minipet/prize

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

04 Jan 2008 at 00:59 - 226

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

That is like the complaints about making the Bonus Mission Pack buyable in the store.

Yeah, except with the BMP, we were given notice BEFORE the promotion STARTED, AND there was a FOUR MONTH window. With the Bear, we were given notice a day before the "promotion" ENDED.

Leslie

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England

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04 Jan 2008 at 01:00 - 227

For me it's not about greed. I want the mini for my girlfriend because it looks nice; I know she'll keep it no matter what the cost. 500g or 500e, either way it's a mini she'll keep because it's very adorable. It's that way with any mini I like, and i know it is for her; I can quite honestly say I'd rather have mini rurik than mini kanaxaii simply because I prefer the looks of rurik mini. so please don't always assume it's a matter of greed, as for many it's a matter of enjoyment of certain miniatures. Gaile has posted herself before that marketability of miniatures is secondary to player enjoyment of them.

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

04 Jan 2008 at 01:00 - 228

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meo Yeong

How can you say its not a festival prize.

1) It only available while wintersday
2) It is only available from a quest that is avaialble while wintersday
3) It is only available from a chest that appears in a quest that is only available while wintersday

wintersday = festival

polar bear = festival minipet

= flawed logic. It's not a prize at all, prizes imply winning something. It's a lucky drop.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

04 Jan 2008 at 01:00 - 229

Ya know, if you guys put this much effort into solving real life problems, there'd be world peace, world hunger would be solved, a cure for cancer and a full reinstatement of the space program before the end of 2008.

Or you'd all just be politicians.

bart

Desert Nomad

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04 Jan 2008 at 01:01 - 230

i think i'm going to write a letter to the government asking them to extend Christmas.

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

04 Jan 2008 at 01:02 - 231

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

Ya know, if you guys put this much effort into solving real life problems, there'd be world peace, world hunger would be solved, a cure for cancer and a full reinstatement of the space program before the end of 2008.

Or you'd all just be politicians.

My bet's on politicians, given how much bullshit flies around Riverside.

Fril Estelin

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04 Jan 2008 at 01:02 - 232

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sora of the Divine

Yeah, except with the BMP, we were given notice BEFORE the promotion STARTED, AND there was a FOUR MONTH window. With the Bear, we were given notice a day before the "promotion" ENDED.

Since when do we have to be notified?

*****OFFICIAL ANET WARNING: WE WILL MAKE YOU A SURPRISE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, PLEASE DON'T ACT SURPRISED WHEN IT'LL HAPPEN**********

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

04 Jan 2008 at 01:03 - 233

Notice to ANET: In the future do not put into the game anything that is not announced several weeks ahead of time. Doing things like that just causes frustration from the masses and causes uneeded congestion on the fansite forums.

But, thanks for the effort to make something 'special' if only for a few adventurous souls.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

04 Jan 2008 at 01:04 - 234

I really could care less if they extend the festival or if they ever have another one. I quit!

But I will point out flaws in the game that I have seen, and the issue of monster lag, and the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you from the developers and Gaile are flaws, so hell yes I'm going to point out the flawed defense of them.

Kissable Krissy

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Mo/Me

04 Jan 2008 at 01:04 - 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Since when do we have to be notified?

*****OFFICIAL ANET WARNING: WE WILL MAKE YOU A SURPRISE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, PLEASE DON'T ACT SURPRISED WHEN IT'LL HAPPEN**********

Exactly. I think we need more surprises in this game.

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

04 Jan 2008 at 01:04 - 236

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

= flawed logic. It's not a prize at all, prizes imply winning something. It's a lucky drop.

Regardless it still is a festival item no matter how you look at it.

And since its so rare I would say its one lucky prize to get.

And if ya really want to be picky you can look at chests as being an object that hands out prizes for beating the mission since it just isnt a drop from a random creature but a chest that you only get for beating the mission.

Seems like a reward/prize to me,

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

04 Jan 2008 at 01:06 - 237

Quote:

Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger

Ok first point.. Gaile said she didn't know, then goes on to say The Team, and we... implying in the community that they (Gaile) did know.

Second point, the difference between the polar bear and the Ghostly Hero, Mini Mallyx is that you can attempt to get those rare drops 365 days of the year.

Fact is Gaile denied the polar bear when it was discovered...then the day before the events end says opps my bad. Making those that were discovered instant super money makers. And if that doesn't screw the in game economy up, what does?

(Love me, Hate me, I have nothing better to do that surf these boards and voice my discontent since I have quit playing the game)

And can I say I LOVE how this particular post was just ignored..

And why dear community was it ignored? Because it was right on target. I hit the nail on the head, and you ANET/Gaile ass kissers know it.

Yes I am obnoxious, just like the game has become for MANY MANY people.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

04 Jan 2008 at 01:06 - 238

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Since when do we have to be notified?

*****OFFICIAL ANET WARNING: WE WILL MAKE YOU A SURPRISE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, PLEASE DON'T ACT SURPRISED WHEN IT'LL HAPPEN**********

Wait wait wait! When they DID do that, the community went absolutely ballistic trying to figure out what this "new big thing" would be...then they all /ragequit when it wasn't what they expected.

Yichi

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04 Jan 2008 at 01:08 - 239

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meo Yeong

... 3) It is only available from a chest that appears in a quest...

Rule one of an argument... don't shoot yourself in the foot....

The minipet was not awarded as part of the festival itself, therefore not a festival prize. you say so yourself. Were any other chest drops awarded during the festival?

Granted the quest does appear with the wintersday event, but the chest spawns upon completion of the dungeon with the quest active, not as a result of you being in a district that the event is taking place or in a district that the quest is turned in as a reward, thus not falling into the "festival prize" category.

Heart of the shiverpeaks is similar in which there are 2 different versions of it. One thats part of the main quest and one that is just a dungeon. The same can be said for the snowman dungeon. 1 version is different if you went in with this quest active, the other version is the normal version. So your chest spawns at the completion of the dungeon objective, the same as any other dungeon would.

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

04 Jan 2008 at 01:09 - 240

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sora of the Divine

Yeah, except with the BMP, we were given notice BEFORE the promotion STARTED, AND there was a FOUR MONTH window. With the Bear, we were given notice a day before the "promotion" ENDED.

Cept like I said, I started after the offer ended. No advance warning, just NPCs that I walk past all the time that mean nothing to me, i at least farmed strength of snow for several hours last nite, about my usual amount of time to farm something before I get tired of it and move on.

I mostly chimed in on that note cuz of the "tough crap, wait til next year" guy....I can actually just get over stuff like the bear and the BMP and move on, until somebody comes across with that kind of jive.