Dear ANet, Please extend Wintersday

Zhack

Zhack

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Sweden

R/

I guess the fact that this request comes up at every wintersday event and most other events mean that Anet knows how to throw an event.
It gets rather tedious to see the threads every event tho.
Sadly i have to say i have not participated in any of the event activities this year, not because of the lack of time but because of the lack of interest.
I don't even know if they added new quests etc, but i was to lazy to even find out, which i bet i will be regretting in a month or two when everything have been like it always have for a while...

Meo Yeong

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
And can I say I LOVE how this particular post was just ignored..

And why dear community was it ignored? Because it was right on target. I hit the nail on the head, and you ANET/Gaile ass kissers know it.

Yes I am obnoxious, just like the game has become for MANY MANY people.
On december 26th Gaile said that she didnt know about the polar bear rumur.

I wasnt there to hear her discuss it but that could mean many things but it was on wiki and on official wiki up to the last day that it was a rumour until the one guru thread where Gaile did come in and confim that yes polar bears did exsist and then she also added that they where there the full 12 days.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
Wait wait wait! When they DID do that, the community went absolutely ballistic trying to figure out what this "new big thing" would be...then they all /ragequit when it wasn't what they expected.
I think we're those musicians on the Titanic, with 200 people screaming on one side of the boat sinking (NO, it's not an analogy of Anet failing or the game being less interesting, just in case you want to hijack my post!) and 300 on the other side ... and we're still playing .

I think people will soon organise virtual pickets in the game. EVERYONE MEET TOMORROW AT 1PM GMT IN LA ID1! BRING ALL YOUR FRIENDS!

GIVE US OUR POLAR BEARS OR REFUND THE GAME!

Have a nice day/night

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meo Yeong
On december 26th Gaile said that she didnt know about the polar bear rumur.

I wasnt there to hear her discuss it but that could mean many things but it was on wiki and on official wiki up to the last day that it was a rumour until the one guru thread where Gaile did come in and confim that yes polar bears did exsist and then she also added that they where there the full 12 days.
My Point!

If it was on wiki, it had been found, and Gaile comes in and says its not real, then FIVE days later says my bad it was there, and continues on about the team and all that crap..

Jesus people pull your heads out of your asses and realize that you got jerked around.

Kissable Krissy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Chicago, Illinois USA

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
And can I say I LOVE how this particular post was just ignored..

And why dear community was it ignored? Because it was right on target. I hit the nail on the head, and you ANET/Gaile ass kissers know it.

Yes I am obnoxious, just like the game has become for MANY MANY people.
Ok....

Point 1. Who really cares if the team knew or didn't know of the existence of the polar bear?

Point 2. Yup. You're right, if you can actually win HoH, then you have a chance all year round to get a ghostly hero, but considering the amount of low and no ranked players that complain about not getting into a high ranked group, then your odds are about the same as getting the polar bear were/are. There are other minis that are limited in number and could only have been obtained once. Just not to the point of the polar bear.

Point 3. I followed the mini polar bear thread until closed. After witchblade asked about it, Gaile confirmed it. Why must Gaile confirm something before it happens? Surprises are nice.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kissable Krissy
Ok....

Point 1. Who really cares if the team knew or didn't know of the existence of the polar bear?

Point 2. Yup. You're right, if you can actually win HoH, then you have a chance all year round to get a ghostly hero, but considering the amount of low and no ranked players that complain about not getting into a high ranked group, then your odds are about the same as getting the polar bear were/are. There are other minis that are limited in number and could only have been obtained once. Just not to the point of the polar bear.

Point 3. I followed the mini polar bear thread until closed. After witchblade asked about it, Gaile confirmed it. Why must Gaile confirm something before it happens? Surprises are nice.
Surprises are WONDERFUL. Being screwed isn't, well at least not in this way.

Meo Yeong

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yichi
Rule one of an argument... don't shoot yourself in the foot....

The minipet was not awarded as part of the festival itself, therefore not a festival prize. you say so yourself. Were any other chest drops awarded during the festival?

Um yes that minipet was awarded while the festivities. You try and get one right now. You can't because it was only available while the festival and you needed to complete a festival quest to have a chance to get it. Thus its a festival item. If you can't get it outside of the festival itself that means it is part of that festival.

Boy your logic is very flawed. I am really thinking that you are just posting to see yourself post.

Btw if ya going to quote a line and say I said something dont just quote the part that will help yourself but the whole line because at that end of that line it stated a quest that was part of wintersday.

Kissable Krissy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Chicago, Illinois USA

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Surprises are WONDERFUL. Being screwed isn't, well at least not in this way.
You weren't screwed. Nothing bad happened to you. Some people were lucky enough to receive a new drop and you didn't get it. Oh, well.

pygar

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
My Point!

If it was on wiki, it had been found, and Gaile comes in and says its not real, then FIVE days later says my bad it was there, and continues on about the team and all that crap..

Jesus people pull your heads out of your asses and realize that you got jerked around.
Being an avid conspiracy theorist BP, one thing to mention here is if you dont have a reasonable motive, you do not have a conspiracy. I can not think of any valid motive behind this whole polar mini thing (what they did it just to piss ppl off?)

Your right, people got jerked around some....but it's an error, not a conspiracy.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Jesus people pull your heads out of your asses and realize that you got jerked around.
Ok, now after greed, we've got anger. This is really getting weird. Can't people calm down a little bit and realise what they're actually doing? Or even try to use the words according to their meaning? (that's convenient to say you're screwed because it means nothing, not one thing)

***** OFFICIAL ANET WARNING: NEXT TIME WE WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU'LL GET, HOW TO GET IT AND WHEN, PLUS WE'LL REFUND YOU YOUR GAME IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY (PLUS FREE CHOCOLATE AND COFFEE) ************
(following this official update, Gaile and Andrew were fired, while Jeff and Mike sold Anet and fled to South America)

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Surprises are WONDERFUL. Being screwed isn't, well at least not in this way.
Someone has something that you don't = being screwed?

And you tell others to "pull your heads out of your asses"?

WOW!

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meo Yeong
Um yes that minipet was awarded while the festivities. You try and get one right now. You can't because it was only available while the festival and you needed to complete a festival quest to have a chance to get it. Thus its a festival item. If you can't get it outside of the festival itself that means it is part of that festival.

Boy your logic is very flawed. I am really thinking that you are just posting to see yourself post.
the minipet was not awarded during the festivals. It was not part of the quest reward in itself.

tell me where in here does it say the chest is even part of the reward for the quest?

The chest spawns like any other dungeon chest spawns. upon completion of the quest for that dungeon. It is not part of the quest itself, but a reward for finishing the dungeon.

Hott Bill

Hott Bill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Shards of a Broken Crown

R/

Won't happen Dwana didn't win.

+1

Meo Yeong

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
My Point!

If it was on wiki, it had been found, and Gaile comes in and says its not real, then FIVE days later says my bad it was there, and continues on about the team and all that crap..

Jesus people pull your heads out of your asses and realize that you got jerked around.
I dont think they ententionaly said hey lets jerk these people around. I just think there was a lack of communication that ended up that this happened. Nothing much we can do about it.

Plus who knows maybe they are working on something to try and sort of even this out.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kissable Krissy
You weren't screwed. Nothing bad happened to you. Some people were lucky enough to receive a new drop and you didn't get it. Oh, well.
I didn't even try to get it. Why, I am not grinding anymore than I already have been forced to for titles that make a impact in the game play. I didn't try to get it because I had stopped playing the game with the pet nerf. I didn't try to get it because I only logged on to get the hats. You know the uber ugly ones?

I could care less if I ever get a mini polar bear. The ownership of a stupid graphic isn't my point.

My point is that Gaile made another look like a idiot.

The Dev's wanted it to be a surprise, great, they got that. it was a GREAT surprise, but once the suprise was found, what was the point of denying it? Why not say then FIVE days BEFORE the end of the event that it was true.

Like I said earlier, I am on these boards because I am not on the game anymore.

I LOVED GW, I loved the play, I loved the graphics, and was appreciative of the events. Then came the nerfs, you know the ones in favor of PvP to hell with PvE. Then came EoTN and I got screwed on that too, after days of fighting with tech support over my video card that was supported by CORE installments of GW was now not supported by a EXPANSION pack.

I'm tired of being RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed over by ncsoft and ANET. So yes I am going to tell you were I find flawed logic and favortism.

Again I tell you I could care less if I own a polar bear, find a polar bear or sell a polar bear. I think it was unfair to deny the exsistence of the bear once it was discovered.

You can't see the logic there, then thats your problem.

I know what I write here makes no diff to game development, I know that it wont change what I would like to see changed. But I belive in speaking up. So there you have it.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Can you say "anger management"?

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
*opinion opinion opinion opinion*
You do realize that opinion does not equal fact?

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

So, a new rare minipet? Very rare apparently, its acquisition contingent upon nothing but sheer implausible luck while playing a few minutes worth of shallow single player content.


Pathetic.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
Can you say "anger management"?
I do just fine thanks. I have a right to tell you what I think and my opinion. Just because you can't counter it, and don't agree doesn't make it a Anger Management issue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
You do realize that opinion does not equal fact?
Why yes I do.

Do you realize opinion is what pays the GW staff salaries?
Do you realize that just because everyone else is not as vocal as me or does not post on a board that their opinions count as well?
And do you realize that those of us with these opinions will voice them again at the monetary level when GW2 is released?

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

I just want to add that the current "solution" is ridiculous. If the event NPCs are gone, why are towns still decorated? Did Grenth really win this year, stealing all the quests and leaving the players with just the snow?

Meo Yeong

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yichi
the minipet was not awarded during the festivals. It was not part of the quest reward in itself.

tell me where in here does it say the chest is even part of the reward for the quest?

The chest spawns like any other dungeon chest spawns. upon completion of the quest for that dungeon. It is not part of the quest itself, but a reward for finishing the dungeon.
lol

you never do give up do ya troll

anyways here we go

I can link stuff too

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Wintersday_chest

That miniature only is available from a wintersday chest which is so called and linked above. Now if this was not a wintersday item why is it only available from a chest that is only available from a quest that is only available from a npc that is only available while wintersday?

Also the wintersday chest is part of that wintersday quest reward and if you look at what items are droping from it they are also all wintersday item such as eggnogs, spiked eggnogs and different types of candy canes. So that adds an other question if this is not a festival item why is the polar bear dropping from a chest that is dropping festival items?

"The Wintersday Chest spawns on completion of The Strength of Snow and Straight to the Heart, these quests were available during Wintersday 2007."

So lets see.

You can only get a polar bear while this festival from a chest that drops other festival items and can only be obtained from a quest while wintersday.

yep that confirms it polar bear is a festival item.

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

In my opinion,

If you are going to complain about it:

a. stop playing GW till you feel you have cooled off or think everything is "ok" now.
b. send a letter/email to ANet complaing. (even though nothing will really happen)
c. stop palying GW forever so you don't have to stress out about something as stupid as "quests getting taken away 2 days later than they really should have".

for option C, the thing is, the quests were left 2 days after they should have been removed. You were priviledged enough to have 2 extra days. So be greatful that you had this opportunity, or don't participate at all.

All of you that are complaining about the mini-polar bear, you lived before it was out, you can live after it was out without having one.

In the end, stop being a bunch of babies, clean your diapers and grow up. Complaining non-stop like this just bugs people, lowers your respect from other people, and gets you NO-WHERE.

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Why do people who say they hate Anet and don't/won't play GW anymore get so completely worked up over things in the game they don't/won't play?

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
Why do people who say they hate Anet and don't/won't play GW anymore get so completely worked up over things in the game they don't/won't play?
Because it's the only part of their world they believe they have control over.

pygar

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

"And on the seventh day, the seventh seal was broken....and the angels descended from the heavens, bearing with them a new Polar Bear mini pet that nobody else had or could get....the people of the world gazed upon it in absolute silence for several minutes..... a little girl stepped forward in innocence and proclaimed 'it has a cute little bow around it's neck!' and the world burst into a symphony of woe that no mortal could escape..."

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
Why do people who say they hate Anet and don't/won't play GW anymore get so completely worked up over things in the game they don't/won't play?
Because its a game we paid money for, for some like me it was a way to escape for real world for a hour or two a night. Because we loved the game

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
Because it's the only part of their world they believe they have control over.

Hmmm...that's rather sad I think I feel kinda sorry for them now... maybe they should get hobbies..or pets?

Messy

Messy

huh?

Join Date: Jun 2005

Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila

Guildless

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger

I could care less if I ever get a mini polar bear. The ownership of a stupid graphic isn't my point.
Do you have a point??

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Like I said earlier, I am on these boards because I am not on the game anymore.
Is it because you miss the game??? Why be on boards of a game you don't play anymore???


Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
I'm tired of being RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed over by ncsoft and ANET.
It's a CONSPIRACY!!!

YOU......


Me

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

D/

Just found out about the Mini Polar Bear, although I'm usually OK with Anets decisions, seriously W-T-F ANET!

Due to the fact that I am currently engulfed in "Searing Flames" (hey, I can't post without using Skill puns ) I think am going to take a nap in the still not removed useless snow!

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
Hmmm...that's rather sad I think I feel kinda sorry for them now... maybe they should get hobbies..or pets?
You're too kind Shakti

It's during moments in GW community history like this that I like to pull out THIS link:

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...-frontline.php

gloria vander belt

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

Dragons Lair

United Farmers Of Europe[FOE]

W/

/signed

you added the mini pet on the last day and displayed it on wiki the last day.

i farmed it for hours upon hours upon hours, from 10:30 am of the last day(acctually second to last day if any 1 timed it), all the way til wintersday finished(8:00am the next morning(australia time). before i could even keep the program still running you took the rifts, now alls i want is a further chance to farm this damn Mini, even if you have it in the chest at "Secret Lair of the Snowmen" Dungeon in Eye of the North, i feel a little cheated i farmed it straight for so many hours and got nothing but the same drops over and over and over, i bought over 300 presents from gift giver, when you have "you have neen playing 1 day please take a break" on your screen and realise you have no mini you start to get aggetated then when Winters day finishes on you and the quest are gone but you still have no mini, you think wow, i know its a rare drop, but that was rediculous to farm for so long, i thought and was hoping it would of dropped before wintersday. GG A-Net!!!!!!!!!

Wow, if i knew it wasnt based on a loot scale i would have never bothered to farm it for so long.

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

N/

Three issues lead to this:

1) Arenanet is a company that listens to what the customers have to say. This has benefited them by creating a hardcore fan base. Combine this with the fact that the some of the customers might be immature and regard the company as being willing to do exactly as they say. The result is inevitable conflicts, a PR minefield since the forum has key influencers.

2) We now exist in a gaming environment where the existence of the Wiki and the Forum means that few things are ever a surprise anymore. Yearning for predictability comes naturally to the majority of people. Which leads to complaints that information was not available. Where else in life can you look up an instruction manual that will always be accurate and constantly updated?

3) The Polar Bear is the winning lottery ticket. It is rarer than people who have maxed all their Title tracks. I will not even be surprised if it is a one-off, since it comes with its own special Title. Most of us did not win the lottery. Witchblade did. Same with every lottery, there is disappointment and jealousy. Go rage at your lottery company for your 10 million dollar jackpot that got away.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dont Mess WithMe
Do you have a point??



Is it because you miss the game??? Why be on boards of a game you don't play anymore???




It's a CONSPIRACY!!!

YOU......


Me
Remember that when its your turn to get nerfed, or feel screwed over man

And yes I am here because I miss the game. But since I've put my two cents out here, and I do feel better voicing them. I will maybe hush for awhile, you never know.

I do know I wont change anyones thoughts, or the game, but..you know it doesn't hurt me to voice my thoughts, and it doesn't hurt you to listen to them.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

zzzz don't extend the event. I dislike lag, and the event adds heaps for no reason.

pygar

pygar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

KORM

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
You're too kind Shakti

It's during moments in GW community history like this that I like to pull out THIS link:

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...-frontline.php
awesomesauce!!! instant bookmark

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
You're too kind Shakti

It's during moments in GW community history like this that I like to pull out THIS link:

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...-frontline.php
Lmao great link, thanks for the giggle Serenity

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by gloria vander belt

you added the mini pet on the last day and displayed it on wiki the last day.
*Sigh* *rubs eyes*. No, they didn't. As stated by Gaile, and repeatedly quoted, the mini was in game since the start of the festival.

Most people only found out about it on the last day.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Our story doesn't end here. Nerds will continue to rage as they have in the past since the beginning of the Internet. They will rage because that's all they have. They will rage because of that eternal hope that someday, somebody, will listen.
How true!

Messy

Messy

huh?

Join Date: Jun 2005

Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila

Guildless

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Remember that when its your turn to get nerfed, or feel screwed over man

And yes I am here because I miss the game. But since I've put my two cents out here, and I do feel better voicing them. I will maybe hush for awhile, you never know.

I do know I wont change anyones thoughts, or the game, but..you know it doesn't hurt me to voice my thoughts, and it doesn't hurt you to listen to them.
Good, it sounds like you calmed down a bit

There have been many nerfs I hated. I moved on. To me it's not a matter of voicing an opinion but how the opinions are voiced.



Moving on... after reading this thread I remembered this video I'm sure many of you have seen, but for those that haven't....

PISSED OFF

Saelis Scarfang

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Savior of Souls

Mo/

I am not gonna have the time to get a bear but I /signed anyway because I think it's sweet that Leslie is getting one for Tami. Lol.

I think if they were gonna make it uber rare they could've added a hint "The elusive new minipet" or something in the announcement. The first time Gaile said it was fake or she doesn't know anything about it, she should've, I dunno, checked with the devs instead of having to see so many screenies of Witch's bear before she decided to give them a call?

And well another difference between this and the Ghostly is that well.. to get those two you'd be doing things that matter. Unfortunately quite a few people aren't all that interested in the Wintersday quests, but lots of people want to win Heroes Ascent, etc. The ghostly is sort of a bonus, because the normal rewards for HA are better than the rewards for Wintersday. Unless someone was specifically farming that Wintersday quest for CCs and such (which you can get elsewhere, obviously) you would have to be very lucky to get it on your few runs.

For many, the polar bear might be the only incentive to do the quests - if I wanted a mini ghostly but had no idea it existed as a reward in HA, I wouldn't know to go to HA to try and get it, and the only chance of me getting it without buying would be if I was a PvPer in HA in the first place. Same applies to the bear, I think. :\