Guild Wars Skill Updates Jan. 17th 2008

Harrier's haste

Harrier's haste

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

ViLE

R/P

Yay flaming war ftw............................................... .........

Death By Ketchup

Death By Ketchup

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Canada

Eternal Transcendence [DRMR]

A/

Anet probably didn't nerf UB because they like watching the QQ'ing.

deadlynoob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Flamers does need skills!

well, you brought up a good point, UB doesnt need nerfing, thats why they never went touching it

mr_stealth

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlynoob
first of all, from looking at your profession... i sense biased opinion dashing out from your face.
- even if you can only solo at temple of the damned, don't you already feel rich enough?
So, just because my main happens to be a monk, I must be farming temple in HM? FYI, my monk has been in temple 2 times (once in NM, and once in HM), both of which were with full, balanced parties. Nice attempt to bash me based on the info in my profile.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Nerfing Ursan Blessing would just add yet another skill to the already massive list of skills that nobody every uses.

Why not fix a few skills that people don't use to create some more variety in the game????
The idea is good, but even if you raise other skills to power of U, people are already comfortable running it and do not need anything else. There are strong alternatives (i.e. SY paragon), but ursan is as simple to run as possible, eliminating anything else from competition unless its way more powerful or way simpler to use. Not only that, variety would mean that roles in team need to be filled, making grouping slower compared to U.

As it is now, its Power+Simplicity combo is hard to beat, you either have to have even easier teambuild/build to run or even more powerfull teambuild/build to run.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Razz Thom
ok you never said that, ever................. except right there.
What part of "huge difference from farm" you don't understand?

let me help you again with full quote:

It allows you to Complete supposedly insanely hard area and walk away with statue casually. There is huge difference from simple farming run for worthless green or some points to title. Huge.

Quoting full statement is ftw. Not trying to strawman your opponents view is ftw too.

Frizzles

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Stray Rock Guild [SRG]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlynoob
@frizzles
again, go party search for non-ursan user. People can decide for themselves instead of others whining and demanding everyone to be "equal".
I'm not whining nor demanding anything from anyone. Just disappointed that it would take me at least twice if not triple if not alot more time to get a team together and then also do the quest/mission. (demanding to be equal.. uhm isn't ursan doing just that?)

Plus since when WASNT Guild Wars about balance?
PvE skills got nerfed before, so it's not improbable that UB will be nerfed.
And as I said I wouldn't mind if they don't nerf it, it's their game and I never ever whined complained nor argued about any updates.

But since Anet is reading this, or maybe not, or whatever, it just seemed fair to tell them how I feel about the ursan skill. Which is disappointed that they don't encourage to use different skills. Like they allways have done.

On another note:
All this "ANET WILL DO THIS ANET WILL DO THAT!"-nonsense is totally pointless, all this stupid degenerating of ones opinions goes (both ways) towards children fighting eachother wether mommy will buy them some candy or not. Get a grip..please..

Koda Kumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Daydreaming Cookies

Me/

Augury of Death untouched, "Fear Me!" untouched -> I still have no reason to try HA for what it's worth.

Magebane shot -> Is this update supposed to fix this horribly overpowered skill?

Rampage as One untouched -> TA is still rigged. Well, at least they fixed Warmonger's.....

Players able to bind hotkeys for hero skillbars -> So far cooperative PvE. What's the point of playing with anything else than H/H now?

Mexay

Mexay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Australia

If You Build It They Will Come [ekoc]

D/A

I am a dervish, so 1 of my main skills WAS Pious Assualt. But I was extremely annoyed with the change. We don't need another skill like that. Pious assualt is basicly A Wearying Strike that doesn't give you Weakness and costs 10 Energy.

This was a terrible update for this skill. Not only is the base of a Dervish's energy very low, Pious Assualt is 1 of the first skills a newb dervish will get, and lets face it... does a newb really understand all this energy stuff? No. So a low level dervish can't afford to use 10 energy.

I am a level 20 Dervish, I have completed Factions, Nightfall and Eye of the North. I use Full Black Primeval with a Sup Vigor (that I amazingly obtained from a salvage), I also luckily managed to get a happy medium with my health and energy (620 health, 39 energy). My skills are: Healing Signet, Ursan Blessing, Zealous Sweep, Pious Assualt (I still use it because I can only just fit it in my energy capacity), Wearying Strike, Victorious Sweep, Soldier's Strike and Brawling Headbutt. If I were to try and use all of those skills that cost energy (using Ursan Blessing last because it replaces my skill bar), It wouldn't really work (it would actually because of Zealous Sweep but ignoring the energy gain for that, energy regeneration and my Mhed's vow, it wouldn't). It would cost a total of 40 energy, I only have 39.

I really don't like this change. What dervish in there right mind would want another Wearying Strike that costs an extra 5 energy? What about Death Penalty? I would punch someone in the face if they said the Death Penalty wouldn't matter because it lowers your energy. You can't use Avatar of Melandru with a Death Penalty.

If your wondering, yes I do normally right extremely long posts. I know many people find it extremely annoying, but it's kind of a habbit. Also I was not trying to brag when I was mention my skills, acomplishments ect.

Please excuse any bad punctuation ect. (I am not about to go and download 'ieSpell'

My IGN is X Dervashah X (it might be easier to just add X Mexay X, my PvP character)

If you have read all this thank you for taking the time to read my post.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mexay
...My skills are: Healing Signet, Ursan Blessing, Zealous Sweep, Pious Assualt (I still use it because I can only just fit it in my energy capacity), Wearying Strike, Victorious Sweep, Soldier's Strike and Brawling Headbutt. If I were to try and use all of those skills that cost energy (using Ursan Blessing last because it replaces my skill bar)...
Why on earth would you ever run this on a dervish....

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Oh... black armor. I mean, so what if it dulls the detail of every armor set in the game. It is the most expensive so therefore I am leet... right?
Lets see... zealous sweep is the only bit of energy management. No res. No hex removal, condition removal, interupt, or any form of utility at all. Just Healing Sig (at least you have a self heal), Ursan blessing, and 6+ damage attacks.
Umm... yeah... I think we are going to ignore your complaints about how skill balance should be done.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlynoob
once again, your broken logic leads you off topic. This is about ursa not temple hm. they actually get their base reward of 1.5k + 12k from each other members, alone with chest loots of 3 items, depending on what item it dropped, under 10 or so minutes.

anyways, if you don't ever have tried EotN, then prehaps you shouldn't have ever started sharing your biased opinion.
Stop being bad at life, please.

You are so stupid it hurts.

Stop posting crap.

deadlynoob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Flamers does need skills!

ouch another monk flame