A.net just reset the Favour of European Server - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:12 - 1

Was up to 36,000 mins of favour, basically about 25 days worth. Then it say we no longer had it. That's not really fair, I mean they shouldn't do an PvE event like this weekend's one and not expect the favour to get really high.

meh... epic fail!

Updated: We have it back again, but now its only 80 mins

Jhadur

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

20 Jan 2008 at 15:12 - 2

So what just happened to the 40k minutes of favor that the world had?

Mortis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Hate The [Cape]

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:12 - 3

I'm guessing we hit a certain number that meant the favor reset somehow.

LeoX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Guildless Since 2005???

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:12 - 4

Yep, maxed out probably i'd say (imo). Won't max out again by tonight, so we should be set with a few days at the end of the weekend :|

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

20 Jan 2008 at 15:13 - 5

all i can say is LOL.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:14 - 6

last time i checked, favor was about 32k minutes.

My guess is that someone at anet needs to learn difference between *int* and *long* and how cool is to use later one.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:14 - 7

We lost favor and got it back in about 1 minute. Amazing.

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:15 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeoX

Yep, maxed out probably i'd say. Won't max out again by tonight, so we should be set with a few days at the end of the weekend :|

Since when is there a max limit to it... hmmmm

LeoX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Guildless Since 2005???

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:16 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Since when is there a max limit to it... hmmmm

Oh no sorry, i've got no information to back it up, that's just my thought.

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

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20 Jan 2008 at 15:16 - 10

Lol, how very random.

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:16 - 11

Anet saving ecto economy (thought it was dead allready)

Wyldchild777

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

State of Confusion

Lords Of The Dragons Dine [LORD]

Mo/Me

20 Jan 2008 at 15:16 - 12

Greetings,

Seems that we, the players, have more title desire than ArenaNet allowed for. About an hour ago, 9am eastern, we had over 33,000 minutes of favor remaining. I believe this is because of the mass amounts of people doing the SS/LB weekend.

Well, it's apparent that ANet didn't program for the favor minutes to get that high, because as of around 10am eastern, the world lost the favor. Now, how can 33,000 minutes of favor disappear in just above an hour? All I can give is a technical explanation.

I believe that the code used to store the favor minutes in the Guild Wars program wasn't designed to hold that high of a number, and the minutes rolled over to a negative number. However, since there can't be a negative amount of minutes remaining, the program (Guild Wars) just set the minutes to zero and said that the world lost the favor.

Time to get those programmers off GW2, ANet, and fix this favor minutes BUG.

Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777

Edit: just had to mention, since this got merged with the European thread, that this also affected the American servers (I guess that would be a duh

)

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

20 Jan 2008 at 15:17 - 13

thread already!:P
i don't understand how it will damage the economy though, it was pretty much 100% access for euro's anyway ages ago

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:17 - 14

rofl, that's funny

Me and my guildies were all like.........wtf?

i screenied the 35k min though

FireFox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

We Wear Sombreros [文文文], Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

20 Jan 2008 at 15:18 - 15

so i herd u needed to go to uw

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:18 - 16

They better give us at least 35k minutes if the cap is there. It'd be fair since those people worked for it. Lame, lame. Oh and the WTF Favor! threads spammed as fast as the title haha.

gertman

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

Netherlands

WOLF Guard

N/D

20 Jan 2008 at 15:19 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortis

I'm guessing we hit a certain number that meant the favor reset somehow.

How about 65536 minutes (hex FFFF) and the amount of time the world has favor is stored in a two byte field?

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:19 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Since when is there a max limit to it... hmmmm

in computers there is max limit to everything.

max limit to signet int happens to be 32768 (which is muner of minutes where favor reset), if anet programer used it to store favor guess what happens ...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

20 Jan 2008 at 15:19 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

i screenied the 35k min though

screenshot or it didn't happen!:P

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

20 Jan 2008 at 15:20 - 20

lolol

Made this at 4:18 pm (gmt+1).

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

20 Jan 2008 at 15:20 - 21

counting threads, please delete the others cept RTS's...:P

Blu

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Michigan

Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT]

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20 Jan 2008 at 15:20 - 22

lulz wut r teh uw?

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:20 - 23

Not QQing mind you

What a random turn of events, here a screenshot to remember it by:

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

20 Jan 2008 at 15:22 - 24

Threads merged, post here.

helloworld

Academy Page

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Guild Ancestors Reunited [ギルド]

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20 Jan 2008 at 15:23 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

A.net just reset the Favour of European Server
Updated: We have it back again, but now its only 80 mins

they just reset the favour of all servers

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

20 Jan 2008 at 15:24 - 26

Was bound to happen. 35K minutes is ridiculous.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:25 - 27

Oh well I guess. We'll probably have around 8k minutes when it's all over. Maybe a bit more if it still goes 1k an hour.

Mixie

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

GV

20 Jan 2008 at 15:26 - 28

If its 35k minutes, then its 35k minutes - leave it that way. It`s the very rule of the game itself - this way gw will be turned into game with no (or everchanging which is ultimately the same) rules. I as a player have less and less faith in this game because of constant interventions by the ANet. I feel that every nerf, every changing of rules ruins the game. "This build is too powerful - lets nerf few skills" just by itself sucks hard. Counter build would eventually come up, so what is the nerf for then? Don`t try being creative instead of your players, pls.. When i played, for instance, Heroes 4 wouldn`t probably play it if i had to patch it with "better" rules on a few days basis. Or maybe we are all playing one big virtual rpg with ANet as gm - it`s just that we are unaware of it..

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Jan 2008 at 15:29 - 29

Isn't GW supposed to be dying, or be dead already, or something like that?

Quote:

I as a player have less and less faith in this game because of constant interventions by the ANet.

Favor was reset. In other news, the sky is falling.

No, seriously, the drama is way out of proportions over this.

BTW: you're appear to be still playing, which means the game is fine as it is.

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

Mo/Me

20 Jan 2008 at 15:29 - 30

What's the point of resetting it? Scrolls have already made it possible to get into UW/FoW whenever you want. Any effect on ecto/shard prices would probably be very slight, if it changes at all. And it would be a drop in price, which seems to be anet's goal for every other item to make GW more appealing to casual players. Is ecto the one "sacred" item that they want to be more expensive instead of making it easier to get?

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:30 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antheus

Isn't GW supposed to be dying, or be dead already, or something like that?

No, obviously not.

Turgon Lei Kung

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

20 Jan 2008 at 15:31 - 32

It may not gave been an intentional reset, but a game bug.

The favor reset occured at 34592 minutes, or about 2^21 seconds. Depending on how the game was programmed, it is possible that reaching that level would cause it to 'overflow' and reset to zero.

I read the first page. I believe it's recorded in seconds. It is true that an overflow can occur at 32767 minutes, but we were well over that.

THIS WAS NOT INTENTIONAL. IT WAS NOT 'TAKEN AWAY'. THIS IS A BUG.

Edit. I was wrong the first time, it's in milliseconds. Read 8 posts down.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

20 Jan 2008 at 15:32 - 33

Heh here comes the conspiracy theories <of 2get teh popcornz>

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

20 Jan 2008 at 15:33 - 34

lol yeah, i just recovered from a dodgy error...maybe that caused the reset!

Jhadur

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

20 Jan 2008 at 15:34 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Quote:

The favor reset occured at 34592 minutes

I think you have your figures wrong.

FireFox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

We Wear Sombreros [文文文], Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

20 Jan 2008 at 15:34 - 36

So I'm guessing you guys have never noticed that when game updates come out favor resets... It's not like this is much different...

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

20 Jan 2008 at 15:34 - 37

Hey I made the thread to discuss, not to QQ. The favor time going up like a rocket still anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhadur

I think you have your figures wrong.

That other figure was not posted by me, what on Earth are you talking about? ¬_¬

Turgon Lei Kung

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

20 Jan 2008 at 15:37 - 38

Ok. There goes my explanation.

Still, I can't imagine this being anything other than a bug, especially without any announcement.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Jan 2008 at 15:39 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turgon Lei Kung

THIS WAS NOT INTENTIONAL. IT WAS NOT 'TAKEN AWAY'. THIS IS A BUG.

Seems "that other game" has a similar "bug".

Turgon Lei Kung

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

20 Jan 2008 at 15:42 - 40

Ok. It's in milliseconds. It's a 32-bit signed integer. That's 31 working bits. (2^31-1)/(1000*60) is 35791 minutes and change.