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MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

20 Jan 2008 at 21:41 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakaboiya

LOL I love the attempt to combat a larger issue with your personal habits. Perhaps I should generalize myself and say, I only max titles on one of ten characters and have no intention of doing so for the rest. Therefore we'll have a shortage of favor in no time, but wait that'd be inaccurate wouldn't it?

It might be. I don't know, but I can speak for myself. I have Kind of a Big Deal on 4 characters, almost a 5th. I have Many Leather Bound Books on 1. I plan to get GWAMM on the one character, and will work towards People Know Me on the ones that have KoaBD.

There is a long time until GW2. Many people will either reach GWAMM, or stop trying. Many people will still want to play the game. Using another character allows them to do things differently, and not get bored so easily.

If you want to say people will stop getting maxed titles because they only do so on one character, go ahead. But you can also say those people won't be playing next week, for the same reasons. New people still start this game. Some people have no titles maxed yet. I don't see any concern for Favor, and this little 'bug' is nothing more than an annoyance (in my opinion).

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

20 Jan 2008 at 21:50 - 82

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

It might be. I don't know, but I can speak for myself. I have Kind of a Big Deal on 4 characters, almost a 5th. I have Many Leather Bound Books on 1. I plan to get GWAMM on the one character, and will work towards People Know Me on the ones that have KoaBD.

There is a long time until GW2. Many people will either reach GWAMM, or stop trying. Many people will still want to play the game. Using another character allows them to do things differently, and not get bored so easily.

...

I see, you are speaking from your experience. Very interesting insight actually.

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

20 Jan 2008 at 22:00 - 83

If this event shows anything, it's that GW is far from dead. Feels like the intire continent was farming!

Hell! I play this game every day, and i didn't even max out any of the two titles.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

20 Jan 2008 at 22:06 - 84

OMFG LOL

Anet just owned the gods XD

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

W/

20 Jan 2008 at 22:08 - 85

wow they got owned, seriously.

Furthermore I cannot see any "unbalanced" issue with having 1 month favour; there are scrolls, no need to reset that, people will still go there , favour or not.

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

20 Jan 2008 at 22:11 - 86

yet more amateurism from anet

way to change the rules on us

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

20 Jan 2008 at 22:13 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

yet more amateurism from anet

way to change the rules on us

To be fair, favor has never got this high, so even if this rule was in place we wouldn't of known about it.

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

20 Jan 2008 at 22:19 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

To be fair, favor has never got this high, so even if this rule was in place we wouldn't of known about it.

let's start a fund drive to buy anet a usb memory stick to store this incredibly high number, since it's all rubber bands and string at anet

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

20 Jan 2008 at 22:20 - 89

You first

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

20 Jan 2008 at 22:21 - 90

one nickel of american currency

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

20 Jan 2008 at 22:34 - 91

Sheesh, the favor counter overflowed, they didn't do this out of spite. Guess they underestimated how many people would take advantage of the weekend, but that's the only mistake ANet made here. Maybe they'll reset it to max at the end of the weekend or something, who knows, but all this conspiracy-mongering, "zomg why did they takes da favor from us!!!!" is just foolishness.

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

20 Jan 2008 at 22:52 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

Sheesh, the favor counter overflowed, they didn't do this out of spite.

spite, no. incompetence, yes.

FeroxC

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

EOA

P/W

20 Jan 2008 at 22:54 - 93

I know it was so weird, we had all that favour. I was trying to get my Protector of Elona title and was redoing the mission for the Sulphur wastelands I was trying to keep all the Junundu young alive when one of them died, I got abit annoyed and used "Feast on courpse" on it when bam "You have lost favour with the gods".

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

20 Jan 2008 at 22:56 - 94

Actually I think the US and Europe shared favor Before, and Japan and the other asian country has their own favor counter.

now that the Asian districts are open, I think our favor is pooled together.

Also, they probably didn't code something in case it gets high, and so when the memory couldn't hold it, it dumped it all.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

20 Jan 2008 at 23:00 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

This event removed a lot of undone titles that could have fueled steady favor for better half of year, it also removed big favor burst that was making up for that.

And that's why I think something has to be done about this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

I did not like the new title-grind based system from day one, it was a bad replacement for an even worse system.

Time to fix this not really good solution so that it is at least not failing like it just did!

I agree. While it's certainly an improvement over the old PvP-based system, the new favor system is inherently flawed. Sooner or later we're going to run out of people willing to grind titles with unfinished titles left to grind.

Although I was initially opposed to the idea, some posters during the previous debate convinced me that the best solution is just to get rid of the entire idea of favor altogether and have open access to UW/FoW all the time.

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

20 Jan 2008 at 23:01 - 96

Nah They should make a new elite zone

and whenever its done we gain favor.

I dunno Melandru's having problems or whatever,
when we beat that mission we gain
a few minutes or something of favour and a green =P

it's pve, pve should be able to get favour by essentially doing pve.
Title farming is just lame

flclisgreat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

been using this avatar IRL for ever

No I Wont join your guild[stfu]

D/

20 Jan 2008 at 23:04 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

Anet should give us back all the favor time we EARNED. They should have realized the consequences of a weekend such as this and prepared accordingly.

Also, anet wanted to change the favor system to the retarded title-pve based way it is now, they should live with the fact that it was NOT A GOOD IDEA. Give us back the month of favor we earned imo, and since QQ'ing seems to work now, i WILL NOT let this injustice rest until favor is linked to HA again or we get back our 25+ days of favor!

why the hell should pvp affect us pve only players?

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

20 Jan 2008 at 23:05 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by flclisgreat

why the hell should pvp affect us pve only players?

So that PVE players play pvp.

You could make it the same as before.

But instead of 1 continent getting it.
They all do

Maybe something like
When HA is held the continents gain 50 minutes of Favour, when a new HA winner happens the world gets another 10 minutes of HA (so if HA holds don't gain favor)

and uh then you get an additional 2 minutes per title.

but I prefer a new elite mission giving favor

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Jan 2008 at 23:09 - 99

Favor doesn't limit access to UW/FoW (hint: scrolls).

So everyone who wants to quest etc. can do it anytime they want.

But it does affect farmers. Which I guess could probably take a 2 hour break from their 24/7 thingy.

Quote:

Anet should give us back all the favor time we EARNED. They should have realized the consequences of a weekend such as this and prepared accordingly

Getting involved into a game to the point where one feels ownership of virtual items is time to take a break for a day or two.

It's just some bits and bytes, that's all the titles are, wasn't this established long time ago.

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

20 Jan 2008 at 23:27 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

This event removed a lot of undone titles that could have fueled steady favor for better half of year, it also removed big favor burst that was making up for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chthon

And that's why I think something has to be done about this.

only reasonable thing for Anet to do: reset all SS & LB titles

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

21 Jan 2008 at 02:15 - 101

I relayed the situation about Noon today. Sent an email to a full team; contacted the QA manager on IM so that he'd know what was going on. I've no response yet to the email, which makes sense because this is a Sunday.

I am sure we'll know more tomorrow and when we have information about this, I'll pass it along.

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

21 Jan 2008 at 02:56 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I relayed the situation about Noon today. Sent an email to a full team; contacted the QA manager on IM so that he'd know what was going on. I've no response yet to the email, which makes sense because this is a Sunday.

I am sure we'll know more tomorrow and when we have information about this, I'll pass it along.

Since its a bug can we get that 35k favour back?

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

21 Jan 2008 at 04:53 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down

Since its a bug can we get that 35k favour back?

yeh right, we already got 23k favor back again, aint that enough for a while?

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

21 Jan 2008 at 04:55 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Presler

yeh right, we already got 23k favor back again, aint that enough for a while?

Oh so we should let all that favor go to waste? The favor is basically a reward for maxing titles, why should we not get what we earned?

I can understand if we can't get it back because it's not possible. But if we can get it back, we should.

GWCaptain

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

21 Jan 2008 at 05:08 - 105

2+2=5

12ch

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

21 Jan 2008 at 05:15 - 106

who cares?
12c

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

21 Jan 2008 at 05:56 - 107

I think the QQing in this thread is mainly about the fact that

a) if it was a technical bug, A.net didn't really plan for these events accordingly. Even if they didn't forsee all this favor coming, once the weekend hit and they saw the favor climbing so high so quickly, they had more then enough time to correct the code to prevent an overflow problem. As someone else said, it literally only takes a couple of seconds to change how the favor is stored. Basically its a sloppy mistake.

b) if it wasn't a bug and was intentionally done... that's just a stupid thing to do on A.net's part.

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

21 Jan 2008 at 06:18 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

I think the QQing in this thread is mainly about the fact that

a) if it was a technical bug, A.net didn't really plan for these events accordingly. Even if they didn't forsee all this favor coming, once the weekend hit and they saw the favor climbing so high so quickly, they had more then enough time to correct the code to prevent an overflow problem. As someone else said, it literally only takes a couple of seconds to change how the favor is stored. Basically its a sloppy mistake.

b) if it wasn't a bug and was intentionally done... that's just a stupid thing to do on A.net's part.

a) yes because anet staff dont have the weekends free and they stay 24/7 there ready to work at the whim of the players.

b) i dont really think it was intentional, or at least not expected, wait till Gaile gets us more info.

Articus Red

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

California

E/Me

21 Jan 2008 at 06:54 - 109

they should make it how it used to be when you had to fight and if your country won you'd keep that lead. made it seem cool to root for your country to excel in pvp play

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

21 Jan 2008 at 07:01 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Articus Red

they should make it how it used to be when you had to fight and if your country won you'd keep that lead. made it seem cool to root for your country to excel in pvp play

They should also make it so monsters kill eachother in pve like they did that one time...

No. They shouldn't do either.

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

21 Jan 2008 at 07:27 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Presler

yeh right, we already got 23k favor back again, aint that enough for a while?

I doubt anyone will care too much as long as ANET restores the lost favor before we lose favor again. And two weeks should be plenty of time to come up with some way of doing so. If all else fails they can just make favor permanent*.

But we should make our feelings on matters like this known as soon as possible to give ANET more time to deal with things

*If it wasn't for this bug I would expect us to get permanent favor under this system anyway. Consider:
- For a few weeks before the GW:EN release the favor was constant and favor remaining was increasing. Then GW:EN came out and distracted everyone from the favor titles.
- It only takes 20*24*365 = 175'200 titles per year for constant favor (175'680 in a leap year)
- Before GW:EN went on sale ANET announced 4 million copies sold. Assuming that all were part of merged accounts this still comes to >1.3 million accounts. This is higher when you consider that there are some people who didn't merge accounts.
- Therefore we need at most 0.13 titles earned per account per year for constant favor. Meaning that even if more than 85% of the accounts were inactive we still only need 1 title per person per year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Articus Red

they should make it how it used to be when you had to fight and if your country won you'd keep that lead. made it seem cool to root for your country to excel in pvp play

Except for the minor fact that the people we were cheering on didn't care about favor. Or if you were in one of those regions (like taiwan) which didn't win favor often because they simply don't have enough good players.

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

21 Jan 2008 at 07:53 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilateralrope

- It only takes 20*24*365 = 175'200 titles per year for constant favor (175'680 in a leap year)
- Before GW:EN went on sale ANET announced 4 million copies sold. Assuming that all were part of merged accounts this still comes to >1.3 million accounts. This is higher when you consider that there are some people who didn't merge accounts.
- Therefore we need at most 0.13 titles earned per account per year for constant favor. Meaning that even if more than 85% of the accounts were inactive we still only need 1 title per person per year.

This does not take into account the favor resetting to zero after every major game build.

Dorvan919

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

My chair

Droknars Arena Dogs [DAD]

D/

21 Jan 2008 at 08:02 - 113

LOL! I was a bit shocked in that XD. After I got my legendary spearmarshal title yesterday I saw around 40k favor then it disappeared...i thought it was my fault it happened lol.

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

21 Jan 2008 at 08:30 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esan

This does not take into account the favor resetting to zero after every major game build.

I have never heard of that happening before. Nor is it listed on either wiki.

And when GW:EN came out I remember that the favor didn't reset with its update.

So why do you think it does reset with each build ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorvan919

LOL! I was a bit shocked in that XD. After I got my legendary spearmarshal title yesterday I saw around 40k favor then it disappeared...i thought it was my fault it happened lol.

Imagine being the person who earned the title that triggered the reset.

vixro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Stranded Among New Players [SANP]

Mo/

21 Jan 2008 at 08:34 - 115

I helped add to the disappearing minutes. At first I didn't feel upset because there were so many minutes, but now after thinking about all the work I put into getting the title (even on double weekend) it seems like such a waste and I wish my 3 minutes were still there for everyone.

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

21 Jan 2008 at 13:38 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilateralrope

Imagine being the person who earned the title that triggered the reset.

Omg, he killed Ken... Favor!

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

21 Jan 2008 at 14:00 - 117

Some bug lol.
My prediction for now....

Gaile will come back with some bug report and maybe some numbers and a bit of an apology but..... it wont be re-added.
(Apology may include promise of a favor free weekend or something tho)

puffzilla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

W/

21 Jan 2008 at 14:03 - 118

The fact it gets reset every update anyways means we're probably already over the amount of favor we'll be able to use.

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

21 Jan 2008 at 14:05 - 119

plenty of favour left to go wild in UW/FoW, so what's the fuss about ?

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

21 Jan 2008 at 14:05 - 120

I'm curious as to how many people that are complaining here actually use the favor.