Why are people so ........

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

E/

Hell bent on spoiling other people's fun and hard work.

Tonight I was in a group running to Beacon's from Yak's. One guy in the group that was level 9, said he was on his 6th try for survival title, guild mate was running him. I didn't mention I was working on it too. A level 3 E/Mo was trash talking survivors in general, "Quitters", "Worthless Title", etc... When we reached Anvil Rock and the runner had taken off, the E/Mo shouted "Survive this!!" Ran over and aggroed the mob of Minataurs and ran back towards us, typing, "Rofl", "lmao", "Bitch." Party wipe, and all the little @$$hole could do was laugh. Several very unhappy people quit, including the runner.

Why do people hate Survivors so much? Is it because they can't play smart enough to get it, so they are going to try and screw up other's hard work?

How many here hate survivors enough to do the same thing?

Jake_Steel

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

Griefers "hate" everyone. It's what they do. Little jerks.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

You're playing an online game. You'll always get people like that.

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

I don't hate survivors and wouldn't intentionally do that to someone. Most people, I have found, are just jerks. Or twelve years old. Haven't decided which.

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

As pointed out, there can be many "reasons" that make sense to the person acting so poorly, but in general it's just something wrong in their mind that gives them pleasure from annoying others.

vaxmor

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

welcome to Guild Wars.

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

You should have left or zoned when you saw what he was doing.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

That's internets for ya. Moral of the story = PuGs are baed. Use friends / guildies only.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

OP, just wait until that person tries to beat the juggling guiness world record.
When they have almost beaten it, just knock the balls away and say 'juggle that'.
I'm just being silly.

It's too bad some people aren't satisfied enough with who they are and what they do, they have to find ways to discriminate and pick on people who aren't like them.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

I never will understand why people are so concerned with what others are doing in their leisure time. And I will never understand people who hate a certain title so much that they will go out of their way to ruin it for others (although, as Jake said, griefers hate everyone. It may be that they just want to try and make their lives mean something by ruining it for those who are actually experiencing some enjoyment).

Sure, people going for survivor are more likely to flee if they are likely to die, which may tip the balance against the rest of the party. However, most survivors only party with other people for extremely hard missions, or to get run to other places. I guess the stereotype that survivors are just cowards who ruin the fun for other players is the same as any other. True in some cases, but the majority are entirely different.

Arcain

Arcain

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Montana

Insanity is Sanity [SS]

D/

Maybe this guy / gal had tried for his / her title and lost it?.... My paragon is a survivor without any kinds of runs or special treatment, just running through the missions as normal. ( I don't pug, H/H is the way to go )

Chael

Chael

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

If there weren't any people who got disgruntled over what other people do in video games, gaming forums would cease to exist.
But seriously, I'm sorry to hear about that. Griefers thrive in part from the reactions they receive from their victims and in part from gloating about it with all of their buddies whenever they aren't lamenting over why their parents won't let them shop at hot topic.

Kendar Muert

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

E/

Can you report people for that sort of thing? It really isn't fair for people to ruin someone else's game, and I know the reporting for leechers is basically on the same point.

Kyrein

Kyrein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Island of Undisclosed Location

i got my legendary survivor this moring (woot)
i am so glad i didnt have to go through all that crap,i soloed to lvl 10,went to gunnars and just plvled with kilroy for 1.29mil exp

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

I dislike the survivors who get it by quitting and leeching, but I still wouldn't go THAT far. I only recently started booting them off my teams. :P

I just don't get griefers. How sad do you have to be to get joy from screwing up someone else's style of gameplay? I was running my necro (level 20, with heroes) through earlier Proph quests for no particular reason. There weren't many LFG at the pass, so I joined up with a derv who claimed to be helping with the mission. It was me, one of my heroes, the derv, and three low-levels. As soon as we started the mission the derv started spamming racial slurs and filling the chat screen with "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL". Two beacons later, he was like "Hey guys wanna see a magic trick, watch me disappear!"

I can't believe he even bothered to quit with me there. We still got mission and bonus, even if I had to help the other players kind of a lot. One guy kept asking my hero where they got their elite. XD

Welcome to Guild Wars, god save your soul if you PUG.

Edit: Grats on Survivor 3 anyway, Kyrein.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

That is why whenever you use a survivor character you get a friend/ someone to run you and only you. Then you can have your friend bring heroes or person running to bring henchies and flag them with you.

Never let survivor characters near other people, unless you know them. Too many idiots who think it's all just fun and games to kill you.

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

E/

The only reason I dislike the survivor title (and this is a deep seated hatred in me) is because people will NOT warn you that they're survivors, hang back in a 'safety zone' when you're getting the crap beat out of you, then leave so they don't die, which leaves you hanging or dead. it's annoying as hell. FFS if you're going for survivor, stay out of the elite missions, PLEASE tell people you are so they can decide if they want to take you with them or not, and don't be jerks about it. Having 1 survivor leave and/or not help because they don't want to risk it can make the difference in a lot of missions and dungeons.

Res Ipsi

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perkunas
Tonight I was in a group running to Beacon's from Yak's. One guy in the group that was level 9, said he was on his 6th try for survival title, guild mate was running him. I didn't mention I was working on it too. A level 3 E/Mo was trash talking survivors in general, "Quitters", "Worthless Title", etc... When we reached Anvil Rock and the runner had taken off, the E/Mo shouted "Survive this!!" Ran over and aggroed the mob of Minataurs and ran back towards us, typing, "Rofl", "lmao", "Bitch." Party wipe, and all the little @$$hole could do was laugh. Several very unhappy people quit, including the runner.
This guy sounds like a real winner, and likely despises the title because he lacks the patience/skill to get it himself. It's a shame people like this are free to spoil the fun of others. He must be a pretty insignificant piece of wurm excrement if he finds amusement in griefing people he doesn't know. If you plan to make another survivor, and need a run to LA, pm me. I'd be happy to get you there in one piece (for free).

vaxmor

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

moral of the story:

heroes > henchmen > PuG

simple + effective solution = never group with pugs, only play with heroes.

problem solved.

itsvictor

itsvictor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

It's a shame there are people like that, griefers, they do ruin the fun but you should've saw it coming since he did bash the title...keep the guild hall button handy! That person must've hit an all time low if he gets giggles out of other person's misery.

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

when u give a 12 year old a mic and too much time, he will spew crap out of his mouth. in gw when u give a 12 year old a character AND a mouth, he will spew crap at everything that moves.

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk
when u give a 12 year old a mic and too much time, he will spew crap out of his mouth. in gw when u give a 12 year old a character AND a mouth, he will spew crap at everything that moves.
Guild Wars: *the* babysitter for the 21st century!

sagilltwins

sagilltwins

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Your Mom's House

香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH

A/W

they're just jealous that they didn't hit puberty yet...

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

SHould have reported him or something

But really whole party wipe? you could have walked back to rezone.... or even just left.

Hell running to yaks isnt that big of a deal you could have just left the started a new group without that retard.

Use heroes I got my Survivor r3 title by simply using heroes and having 1 friend do a mission with me.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

Well, it's the same thing with drunkards. Not sure if it works, but to be an asshole to those in Great Temple of Balthazar (those who are talking trash in Local while making an ass of themselves), well...

First, I add them to my team. Then I say one or two lines of 'kiss-ass' to make them feel special or smart. Then I take us to the Isle of Nameless. They lose their drunk status up to that point, I warp back laughing. Bwaha.

As for the Survivor situation, well, that's kind of cruel, yet hilarious at the same time. But, you should have been watching and warped out. If you left the screen, that's your problem.

:S

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
Well, it's the same thing with drunkards. Not sure if it works, but to be an asshole to those in Great Temple of Balthazar (those who are talking trash in Local while making an ass of themselves), well...

First, I add them to my team. Then I say one or two lines of 'kiss-ass' to make them feel special or smart. Then I take us to the Isle of Nameless. They lose their drunk status up to that point, I warp back laughing. Bwaha.

As for the Survivor situation, well, that's kind of cruel, yet hilarious at the same time. But, you should have been watching and warped out. If you left the screen, that's your problem.

:S
Yes its so nice to see that you're part of the problem.

Theres a lil box you can click so you dont see people making asses of themselve.

DivineEnvoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Me/P

This reminds me of a time doing the Kodonur Crossroads mission. I was a Monk at the time, and we happened to have a Paragon survivor. In the middle of the mission, we had a Warrior aggroing upto two groups, and so, the Paragon decided to stay out of the battle completely. The battle lasted 10 minutes, and to make it worse, the Paragon had all the ally centaurs with him by staying back. Eventually, both monks ran out of energy, and the death-penalty gained through this battle led to a party wipe about five minutes later in the mission, in which the Paragon decides to stay out completely again, then he leaves.

When we were back into the town, we were quite outraged, but he replied to us that we were just jealous because he has the survivor title, and we can't have it. I guess that explains it, doesn't it?

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

always happens. this is internet

Hikan Trilear

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Survivors are highly stereo-typed because some survivors ruin other people's game by leaving when it gets hard, or when the party begins to die. Then act as though they have attained an amazing achievment by doing so...

I sorta went for survivor, but I decided that I wouldn't leave any games.
Well I PUG'd one time, the guy over-aggro's <End of survivor track>. I've actually never maxed a title in nearly two years of playing so it doesn't really matter to me.

Mexay

Mexay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Australia

If You Build It They Will Come [ekoc]

D/A

The person that did that was just a noob that has nothing better to do than spoil people's fun. It is just a game and sometimes people actually do need a wake up to that extent, but still what that person did was just stupid.

Some people are just like that and the most likely reason why would be is that those people are probable the ones who always get bullied at school because they are nerds and geeks (I personally hate nerds and geeks for various reasons) so they do the same to other people in-game.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

If you've got SS's of the conversation, report the little prick for griefing. Maybe a 72 hour time-out will make him/her behave themselves better in the future.

I agree with everyone about playing your survivor character with ONLY H/H or trusted guildies & friends. Don't go with PUGs in this case.

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

im just trying to wonder why youre wondering why people are assholes and very quickly find myself throwing pudding at the ceiling and wondering why i left a response to this thread
sry i just had to

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
You're playing a free to play online game with no monthly fee that any immature brat can get a hold of. You'll always get people like that.
I fixed this for you.

Dorvan919

Dorvan919

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

My chair

Droknars Arena Dogs [DAD]

D/

lol, those people are what we call "attention seekers" and try to act all hard by doing things like these.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Welcome to Guild Wars, where jealousy among players is common. Surround yourself with mature good players and you'll be happy, incase of kids in group I suggest leave group.

- Ganni

Uber Mass

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

W/

That guy prolly doesnt get much attention irl

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk
when u give a 12 year old a mic and too much time, he will spew crap out of his mouth. in gw when u give a 12 year old a character AND a mouth, he will spew crap at everything that moves.
You pretty much got it.

I was lucky enough to get an internet connection when I was young (mind, this was in the very early 90's when that was unheard of), others were not so lucky. I did a lot of that stuff, I can't say it ever occurred to me to think beyond just goofing off. Teenagers and younger have done that for many hundreds of years - it just seems part of it.

I can't say I was ever mad when I got called out on it though, I knew when I did whatever it was there would be consequences and that was just part of it. I've never understood people who do things like that and seem *genuinely* surprised when they get banned or other punishment (are they lying or that stupid? Sadly I think many are that stupid).

Now? If I am rude to you online then I would do the same thing face to face. Same in game - I treat you as I would expect to be treated (and sometimes that isn't treating you nice either). For the most part I stay away from it and play with H/H, find other older gamers, or play with out of game friends. MUCH less trouble that way. Communicating with others is communicating with others and I tend towards the same ideas, if anything I tend towards more "abrasive" in personal contact simply because saying "you suck" with a smile on your face and other body language indicating a joke doesn't make people angry, saying "you suck" in text lacks all of that and ticks people off.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perkunas
Several very unhappy people quit, including the runner.
They should have stayed and taken time to type /report (his name)

While his actions did hurt you by wasteing several hours of your life, 5 griefer reports should have been enough to someone review chat logs, find out truth and wield banhammer.

No point in forum QQ when you had opportunity to remove said person from game and thus help everyone.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

I love trolling idiots in game, but ruining someone's Survivor title is pretty lame. I almost lost a friend's survivor title when I was monking under a new set up, thank god rof owns :/

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
They should have stayed and taken time to type /report (his name)

While his actions did hurt you by wasteing several hours of your life, 5 griefer reports should have been enough to someone review chat logs, find out truth and wield banhammer.

No point in forum QQ when you had opportunity to remove said person from game and thus help everyone.
Very good advice, but I'm not sure that it falls into the 5 report categories (leeching, botting, spamming, using abusive language, or having an inappropriate character name), thus that Anet will action this. It's sad because jerks like this should be banned for a week or two (first time, then perma-ban). They ruin the gameplay of others by pure maliciousness, they're selfish kids, and should be given lessons about life.

I think that forums can help by making apparent that something needs to be done about this. Beyond the obvious QQing (I'd be pissed off by this behavior), we have to find a common cause for rooting this behavior out of the game. This is not fun, except to this malicious kid. So between his fun and everyone else's, we need to make this clear to Anet.

Shall we have a petition for adding a 6th report category? E.g., "Malicious behavior"? How to make it sound less subjective?