thought Id share a few clues for some folks to find q7's max golds

niek2004

niek2004

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Afk in Gh.

Old N Dirty[ym] Good Tactics[Good]

P/Rt

dont think q7s come inscribable. and i will defenetly try to farm lv 15-19's

IattackU

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

NJ, America

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

E/Mo

Ok i figured your farm out exactly, and my first run i got a maxed req 10 gold from one of the monsters. I wont say your farm if you dont want me too though.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by IattackU
Ok i figured your farm out exactly, and my first run i got a maxed req 10 gold from one of the monsters. I wont say your farm if you dont want me too though. LOL its not my farm. It doesnt matter where somewhere farms or not its the lvl of the creatures thats important. But if you have a spot you are more than welcome to share. I know of about 98% of all the areas ingame so it wouldnt help me much but may help others. I figured it was just time to share a little special secret to everyone here. Since there seems to be a few (how shall I say Retarded people with misguided info) that seems to think things get removed when they actually havent. Its just that creatures with those level ranges get rather thinned out in chapters after Prophicies is why not many people have seen them.

IattackU

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

NJ, America

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

E/Mo

Ok, so basically you should go to the black curtains, and farm the necrid horseman/hellhounds and other stuff. That is the place ive been doing this at.

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by IattackU
Ok, so basically you should go to the black curtains, and farm the necrid horseman/hellhounds and other stuff. That is the place ive been doing this at. with the build of?

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Requirement begins with R.

I thought it was common knowledge that the possibility lower req items drop from lower level monsters. Naphui Quarter was a classic example but the algorithim has obviously been altered so as that max gold cannot be produced with a requirement of 7 anymore.

IattackU

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

NJ, America

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

E/Mo

well im using the VwK build and its working, but there are some parts that you have a chance of dieng at. So i would say try some different builds and see what works best.

Trevor The Wave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

This Is Ukraine [UA]

E/Me

Blarg....

http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...rent=gw258.jpg

novawhiz

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

A/

There is no such thing as req 7 max inscribable weps
There is no such thing as farming such weps
There are no more Req 7 weps that drop

req 7 max Uninscribable weps are an abundance on the market but there has never been/never will be a new req 7 inscribable drop.

If you want people to take you the slightest bit seriously you would post a pic of the wep from you holding in invetory, storgae, and on ground. Even if you think people will say its photoshoped, what do you think people think when you post a pic of req 7 daggers and cover up the damage????

Unless multiple Mods can confirm an inscribable req 7 max wep, this thread should be closed.

Tantra Existantance

Tantra Existantance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ireland

W/

I had a r7 Butterfly Sword(maxed) that dropped for me a while ago, haven't seen any r7's recently to verify if they still drop. It dropped from either a Tengu,Ettin or Charr, as I mostly Noob-Farmed them back in the day.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by novawhiz
There is no such thing as req 7 max inscribable weps
There is no such thing as farming such weps
There are no more Req 7 weps that drop

req 7 max Uninscribable weps are an abundance on the market but there has never been/never will be a new req 7 inscribable drop.

If you want people to take you the slightest bit seriously you would post a pic of the wep from you holding in invetory, storgae, and on ground. Even if you think people will say its photoshoped, what do you think people think when you post a pic of req 7 daggers and cover up the damage????

Unless multiple Mods can confirm an inscribable req 7 max wep, this thread should be closed. Do you not get it. Its not for me to prove anything. They still drop. But if you really want proof how about get out there like others are find your own proof. Whats better proof anyways 1 person showing or multiple people showing? Funny how some people are trying to be so adament on claiming they dont exist. If I still had those daggers as I posted in the other thread I would posted the pix.

Tantra Existantance

Tantra Existantance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ireland

W/

Love Photoshop, don't you?

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

All I would really like is a Gaile Confirmation on if they drop or do not. That is all I need and as the above poster has shone it is easyily photoshoped.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Do you not get it. Its not for me to prove anything. They still drop. But if you really want proof how about get out there like others are find your own proof. Whats better proof anyways 1 person showing or multiple people showing? Funny how some people are trying to be so adament on claiming they dont exist. If I still had those daggers as I posted in the other thread I would posted the pix. You mean the pic where you edited out what the damage on the weapon was? Yes that was very helpful....

Why are you still insisting that people have to "find their own proof"?

It is for you to prove it because you claim without showing any SS at all, i beileve you are full of BS and just like attention.

If not SS or GTFO.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
You mean the pic where you edited out what the damage on the weapon was? Yes that was very helpful....

Why are you still insisting that people have to "find their own proof"?

It is for you to prove it because you claim without showing any SS at all, i beileve you are full of BS and just like attention.

If not SS or GTFO. No it wouldnt matter if I posted proof or not. The only way is for others to also find them. After all seeing for oneself is the best proof. Call BS all you want. I dont care if you or others believe me or not. This isnt about me. I posted this for others. Im not the one whos constantly spouting off. But please continue with Flames and trolling Im sure the mods will like it.

Nateku

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Shadow Wanderers

Me/N

I once got a rq7 clean katana from The Deep awhile ago. I think it was during the first open elite Faction missions weekend. Still have it. ^_^

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

max req.7's cannot drop, period.
no matter if inscrib or not.
All currently dropping max req.8's are unintended feature, caused by some imperfect formulas determining generated items' stats and req. This very same thing causes a very very small % of max base level Daggers and Bows to be generated with 1 less maximum dmg (I saw them drop from HoH or end chest of the Deep, they're definately max level).
I had a chance to have some fun with item generating system on beta server, post nightfall, and spawned thousands of items, golds, purples, blues, of different base levels, mostly lv17-21. I was absolutely sure req.7s were nerfed even before this research, so I was searching for most efficient ways to get req.8s. And god they're rare, much more rare than it seems when looking at what people sell. So rare you can't just go and farm a specific level mobs for them. There's only a very small gap of opportunity for req.8 appearing, it's size is different for different items. For example foci have different breakpoints at where 12ene start appearing, their gap is fairly big (near 0.2% of max blue foci will be r8) and thats why we see multiples of them around.
Did you know that gold max damage swords dropping from level 17 mobs will never have req. higher than 11? But that doesn't mean the range moved from the usual r9-13 at high level drops to r7-11 at lv 17, it's r9-11, with maybe a tiny tiny chance for r8 (I couldn't get one at lv17)

So don't try to farm low levels to get a max req.7 drop - waste of time, you will only get an occassional gold max req.8 once in several (dozens) hours. The edge for generating one is that small. Req.7 wont drop.

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

ive had req7 drop but was damage was 1 off max and got it from krytan chest near minotaurs south of toa

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
max req.7's cannot drop, period.
no matter if inscrib or not.
All currently dropping max req.8's are unintended feature, caused by some imperfect formulas determining generated items' stats and req. This very same thing causes a very very small % of max base level Daggers and Bows to be generated with 1 less maximum dmg (I saw them drop from HoH or end chest of the Deep, they're definately max level).
I had a chance to have some fun with item generating system on beta server, post nightfall, and spawned thousands of items, golds, purples, blues, of different base levels, mostly lv17-21. I was absolutely sure req.7s were nerfed even before this research, so I was searching for most efficient ways to get req.8s. And god they're rare, much more rare than it seems when looking at what people sell. So rare you can't just go and farm a specific level mobs for them. There's only a very small gap of opportunity for req.8 appearing, it's size is different for different items. For example foci have different breakpoints at where 12ene start appearing, their gap is fairly big (near 0.2% of max blue foci will be r8) and thats why we see multiples of them around.
Did you know that gold max damage swords dropping from level 17 mobs will never have req. higher than 11? But that doesn't mean the range moved from the usual r9-13 at high level drops to r7-11 at lv 17, it's r9-11, with maybe a tiny tiny chance for r8 (I couldn't get one at lv17)

So don't try to farm low levels to get a max req.7 drop - waste of time, you will only get an occassional gold max req.8 once in several (dozens) hours. The edge for generating one is that small. Req.7 wont drop. And pray tell us which exactly Beta server were you testing on.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
No it wouldnt matter if I posted proof or not. The only way is for others to also find them. After all seeing for oneself is the best proof. Call BS all you want. I dont care if you or others believe me or not. This isnt about me. I posted this for others. Im not the one whos constantly spouting off. But please continue with Flames and trolling Im sure the mods will like it. Yes it would matter if you posted proof that way people wouldnt be wasting time with your sad little game.

Slabby

Slabby

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

[SCAR]

@ Everyone saying req.7/q7/... can't drop anymore.
Thread/Update Log/Webpage with proof or GTFO

Saying things like that on your personal studies or whatesoever obviously isn't valid.

Masacru Ak

Masacru Ak

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

Romania

No Guild

E/

req 8 yes but req 7 never heard it or see !

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masacru Ak
req 8 yes but req 7 never heard it or see ! Going only by your forum join date...you haven't been playing long enough to form a well informed view of what can and can not drop.

quentin

quentin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
Going only by your forum join date...you haven't been playing long enough to form a well informed view of what can and can not drop. c'mon now, joining a forum and playing GW has nothing to do with one another...

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slabby
@ Everyone saying req.7/q7/... can't drop anymore.
Thread/Update Log/Webpage with proof or GTFO
We could say the same for people saying they still drop. In any case, there is no proof on one or the other side.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masacru Ak
req 8 yes but req 7 never heard it or see ! Its not a question if req7 exists - we know they do. The question is can they still drop.

360??

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

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W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Miken

Load of pictures of Q7 weapons I meant more like max Q7 weapons that dropped after the assumed time they stopped dropping. Those are old.

Doubefoot

Doubefoot

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

In a cardboard box

Guild of Drunken Masters [Lush]

W/

I believe hes on teh right idea

I've got a q 8 Celestial bow, and guess where that came from. Vermin

EDIT: Oh, now I see how were discussing if 7 do still work.

I don't believe 7 even drop anymore, I believe Anet nerfed them. I don't really know for sure, but I'd be glad to find out sometime if a q 7 did drop. Anyway, as of now, q 7 are nerfed.

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

Well low req golds still drop, whether they max or not is the real question..

KycooGhost

KycooGhost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Children of Legends [LGND]

E/

Thanks for the hints! Also, on the topic of Req7's being taken out of the game, If they had been taken out than they would show up on the High End Trading forum at crazy prices, well over whet they are currently going for. They would also almost never show up, like the eternal blade and the old school weps that REALY don't drop any more, you know the unconditionals.

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by quentin
c'mon now, joining a forum and playing GW has nothing to do with one another... Reading comprehension FTW...."Going ONLY by your ..."

Of course time on the forums has nothing to do with time spent playing the game...that's understood and does not need to be stated.

gw_poster

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

so cal

R/

a few notes after reading all of the posts:

- gaze of contempt removes ench from foes with 50% or more health..if ur a 55, then aren't you only at like 10-20% of health? Does that mean at 55hp ur at 100% of health, or am I misunderstanding that concept?

- Lower level monsters drop lower req' golds, but I wonder out of those 'rare' drops, how many are actually max damage. I've had gold weapons drop from lev 15 ettins outside of Nebo Terrace, and Juvenile Bladed Termites in Elona, but never max.

- If you farm an area over and over, is there still an anti-farm code and does loot-scaling come into play at all, which all serve to minimize your chance of such uber-rare stuff?

I need elucidation on the above, please help.

-

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gw_poster
a few notes after reading all of the posts:

- gaze of contempt removes ench from foes with 50% or more health..if ur a 55, then aren't you only at like 10-20% of health? Does that mean at 55hp ur at 100% of health, or am I misunderstanding that concept?

- Lower level monsters drop lower req' golds, but I wonder out of those 'rare' drops, how many are actually max damage. I've had gold weapons drop from lev 15 ettins outside of Nebo Terrace, and Juvenile Bladed Termites in Elona, but never max.

- If you farm an area over and over, is there still an anti-farm code and does loot-scaling come into play at all, which all serve to minimize your chance of such uber-rare stuff?

I need elucidation on the above, please help.

- #1: 55 is your maximum health. Whatever the highest health you can get at the time is, that's your maximum.

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

well, inscription req7 weapon does drops
i got this in GWEN
however, a max one? i don't think so~

Antithesis

Antithesis

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

BrisneyLand

Sphincter Says [What]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by afya
well, inscription req7 weapon does drops
i got this in GWEN
however, a max one? i don't think so~ Thanks Captain Obvious. The question is whether or not MAX r8 and r7's drop. No-one cares about non-max inscribable - these quite obviously drop, are completely worthless and are best salvaged for the mod.

IattackU

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

NJ, America

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

E/Mo

I still believe that they drop. And until I see a post from Gaile I will keep believing they drop.

My Lipgloss is Cool

My Lipgloss is Cool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

My Computer

Band Of The H A W K

P/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slabby
@ Everyone saying req.7/q7/... can't drop anymore.
Thread/Update Log/Webpage with proof or GTFO

Saying things like that on your personal studies or whatesoever obviously isn't valid. A negative like that cannot be proven with our access to the game. The only way that we could give proof that they DON'T drop is by posting a conversation with Gaile or someone else from A-Net.

Instead the burden of proof falls to the people who CAN prove what they're saying. If you can't prove that they don't drop, you have to prove that they do. Until it is proven, exactly what you said could be said to you. Until it is proven that they can drop, no one is wrong because it is speculation.

And if my Guru join date comes into question, I've been playing a while, but only decided that lurking wasn't good enough more recently.

Tantra Existantance

Tantra Existantance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ireland

W/

Pics of weapons with a mod of 7 ( and them being max'd ) are easily photoshopped, as I shown earlier, had I touched it up a bit more it would have been more convincing, but the point is alot of sad people spend ages photoshopping these screen shots to make it seem as though they have a max r7 weapon with a recent skin to prove they still drop.

I'm not saying they don't still drop, but I'm not in a position to say whether they do or don't, if someone shows me one in trade with a recent skin, or it's verified by ANET, then I'm a believer :P

KycooGhost

KycooGhost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Children of Legends [LGND]

E/

Can any one post a link from guild wiki for the update that removed req 7's from the game? I can't seem to find it.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by KycooGhost
Can any one post a link from guild wiki for the update that removed req 7's from the game? I can't seem to find it. Ever heard of undocumented changes to the game? The update at the moment of Nightfall release contained so many changes they didn't list all.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

..........oh boy