thought Id share a few clues for some folks to find q7's max golds
Kerwyn Nasilan
r7 where removed in the beggining of nightfall due to PvP inbalance, never really confirmed but widely accepted. Well there could technically be 1 or 2 because random loot generator can logically generate one. Maybe a 1 in a billion chance.
Locke Yggdrasill
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Originally Posted by Masacru Ak
req 8 yes but req 7 never heard it or see !
That would be because you're not supposed to hear of them or see them. They're once in a lifetime things.
Hell, you're lucky if you see someone selling one.
Hell, you're lucky if you see someone selling one.
Antithesis
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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan
r7 where removed in the beggining of nightfall...never really confirmed but widely accepted.
I'm inclined to agree with this, but i thought it went even further back to the release of Factions or maybe even Sorrow's Furnace.
I have a couple of max r8 gold bows that were given to me at least two years ago. I have never seen a max r7 anything, but i'm pretty sure they did drop in the old Prophecies only days. Are we calling BS on this thread?
I have a couple of max r8 gold bows that were given to me at least two years ago. I have never seen a max r7 anything, but i'm pretty sure they did drop in the old Prophecies only days. Are we calling BS on this thread?
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
I have a couple of max r8 gold bows that were given to me at least two years ago. I have never seen a max r7 anything, but i'm pretty sure they did drop in the old Prophecies only days. Are we calling BS on this thread?
The main reason why people seem to think they dont drop anymore is really simple. The level range for a q7 to drop is 15-19 the cahance for one to drop from a lvl20 isnt even worth mentioning its that small. Now look where all the q7 have been found at. They are found in those areas now compare the areas of all campaigns to prophicies and then look what the level of creatures are in those relative same areas would be. Its cause after prophecies the majority of the lvls you fight are lvl20+ wheres its not till the desert in prophicies that you really start fighting lvl 20+. That is why people seem to think they dont drop anymore.
Anet has not removed q7 max from dropping ingame. Its just that the lvl ranges have increased dramasticlly for the majority of the other campaigns and the expansion.
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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan
r7 where removed in the beggining of nightfall due to PvP inbalance, never really confirmed but widely accepted. Well there could technically be 1 or 2 because random loot generator can logically generate one. Maybe a 1 in a billion chance.
there was no PvP balances issues with q7's. you can try to call BS as much as you want but read what I wrote.
Locke Yggdrasill
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I have a couple of max r8 gold bows that were given to me at least two years ago. I have never seen a max r7 anything, but i'm pretty sure they did drop in the old Prophecies only days. Are we calling BS on this thread? I'm willing to call BS on the idea of "Farming Q7s" but as for finding them, there's always glitches.
Antithesis
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Anet has not removed q7 max from dropping ingame. Its just that the lvl ranges have increased dramasticlly for the majority of the other campaigns and the expansion.
I'd like to believe you, but without proof it's looking more and more like a hoax. A simple screenshot or preferably video from you of your max q7 drops, and you'll win over the doubters.
I believe your intent is to help so hopefully someone will come up with the goods based on your tips. 
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
I'd like to believe you, but without proof it's looking more and more like a hoax. A simple screenshot or preferably video from you of your max q7 drops, and you'll win over the doubters.
I believe your intent is to help so hopefully someone will come up with the goods based on your tips.
The proof is so/so to get. As Ive mentioned the reasons why. If I still had those daggers from before I could show them they dropped 2 months ago while I was lvling up my ELE on the raptor nestlings. But with the limited areas of some campaigns is what makes it the tricky part. But as far as SS or even game movies even I wont believe them as ppl do have there own private GW servers. Now look at the claims that people try to make on them being removed. When Factions came out so many claims were made that they were also stopped from dropping till people started chest running and farming Vermins which shut them up. It wont be till more than just me or 1 or 2 others show itll be when many more start to show they are still finding them when once again the claims that they were stopped dropping be put to rest.
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Anet has not removed q7 max from dropping ingame. Its just that the lvl ranges have increased dramasticlly for the majority of the other campaigns and the expansion.
Anet has removed the possibility of a max req.7 item dropping by increasing the bottom value of requirement ranges for max items by 1.
Before NF the hard coded and allowed req. range for max items was 8-13, and there was a tiny edge of chance that an item that's under max item_level dropped with max stats and req.7, due to imperfect calculation by the drop generating system. There was no chance for a max req.6 ever. The NF update just increased the bottom allowed req. value from 8 to 9 and did nothing to the flaws in item generation that caused certain item types to have a tiny chance of droping max stats with req. 1 less than minimum allowed. The chances for max req.8s now are exactly the same as the chances for max req.7s before NF, the gap hasn't become any wider. To those who still believe - the fact that a mob of a given level can drop both: a req.7 item and a max dmg item doesn't mean the dropped item can be both. item_level isn't equal to drop_level. (not actual names of the values, I haven't seen source code;p ) for example: A level 10 Charr boss in pre-searing can drop a Purple Staff with req. as low as 2 but it will be only for lowest dmg ones, like 7-11. A high (not even max) damage Purple Staff that same lv 10 Charr can drop that's for example 9-16 (max is 10-16) will never drop with req. lower than 5, forget about 4, 3 or 2 which that boss can drop but for lower dmg (and lower inherent level) items only.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
Anet has removed the possibility of a max req.7 item dropping by increasing the bottom value of requirement ranges for max items by 1.
Before NF the hard coded and allowed req. range for max items was 8-13, and there was a tiny edge of chance that an item that's under max item_level dropped with max stats and req.7, due to imperfect calculation by the drop generating system. There was no chance for a max req.6 ever. The NF update just increased the bottom allowed req. value from 8 to 9 and did nothing to the flaws in item generation that caused certain item types to have a tiny chance of droping max stats with req. 1 less than minimum allowed. The chances for max req.8s now are exactly the same as the chances for max req.7s before NF, the gap hasn't become any wider. To those who still believe - the fact that a mob of a given level can drop both: a req.7 item and a max dmg item doesn't mean the dropped item can be both. item_level isn't equal to drop_level. (not actual names of the values, I haven't seen source code;p ) for example: A level 10 Charr boss in pre-searing can drop a Purple Staff with req. as low as 2 but it will be only for lowest dmg ones, like 7-11. A high (not even max) damage Purple Staff that same lv 10 Charr can drop that's for example 9-16 (max is 10-16) will never drop with req. lower than 5, forget about 4, 3 or 2 which that boss can drop but for lower dmg (and lower inherent level) items only. Still waiting on what beta server your basing your claims on. My bet is GWLP using elmos DB. Ecspecially since people where still getting q7 after NF's release from Vermins. Its the what the level range that has changed is what has caused the people just not to see them as much. but claiming q8's now drop like q7 used to is just as funny. Its because as Ive said with the level range differences in the campaigns where we had higher areas of medium leveled creatures compared to factions, nightfall and gwen.
Sab
Manitoba, I seriously don't know why you're allowed to post.
Max 7 items don't drop anymore. It's pretty easy to disprove this, however - offer to show an inscribable r7 max item ingame. But you can't, nor can anyone else, because they don't exist and they're not going to drop. Saying rubbish like, "but I got a r7 item last week but i dont have it anymore lolol" isn't going to cut it. Nor is telling people that they can find their own r7 item if they farm hard enough. Fact is, anyone with a insc r7 item can prove that they exist with absolute certainty by showing it ingame, but they - for one reason or another - conveniently don't have it anymore. Don't waste your time.
masta_yoda
req7 do drop... farm celestials for 1 week straight 24/7 NM , but of course i havent done that long...
and not much people play prophecies for missions and qusting in explorable areas or farm in NM and they play in HM thats why u dont see as many req7s....everyone plays gwen, nf and factions more. req7 donts drop in hard mode
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Sab
Manitoba, I seriously don't know why you're allowed to post.
Max 7 items don't drop anymore. It's pretty easy to disprove this, however - offer to show an inscribable r7 max item ingame. But you can't, nor can anyone else, because they don't exist and they're not going to drop. Saying rubbish like, "but I got a r7 item last week but i dont have it anymore lolol" isn't going to cut it. Nor is telling people that they can find their own r7 item if they farm hard enough. Fact is, anyone with a insc r7 item can prove that they exist with absolute certainty by showing it ingame, but they - for one reason or another - conveniently don't have it anymore. Don't waste your time. Where did i say farm hard enough I didnt. Yes they still do drop. I dont care if you and others dont believe me or not. But they still do drop. You and others saying they dont drop doesnt make it any more true either.
Yawgmoth
It wasn't a private server, I think I shouldn't talk about it here anymore (maybe on priv).
q7 max couldn't have dropped after NF update, it was a global change. The fact people don't farm lv 18-20 mobs as much as they did in the past doesn't affect the probability of having a mob of a given level drop an item with lower req than supposed as this hasn't changed. It only means that less of them enters the economy. If you still believe a req.7 can drop, tell me why not a single WHITE (or blue, they're treated the same by the game) max req.7 has dropped post NF then? They were pretty common before NF and they could drop from ANY mobs level 24-28+ Now look at the sheer mass of whites/blues that drop nowadays. If you play the game you should see them drop everywhere, in huge quantities. How often do you see a max req.8 white/blue drop? From my observations, and I play and played the game A LOT, it's about the same rate at which req.7 whites/blues dropped before NF. They just did a +1 to min allowed req. The difference was obvious for me just by looking at the common drops during the first week post NF release. Haven't you noticed a change? Before NF max req8 whites were exactly as common as max req9 whites. After NF the req8 whites mysteriously disappeared from the loads of merch'ed junk, and single ones appear once a couple dozen hours of play. Just as r7s did before NF... The same applies to golds, but they have req anomalies at lower drop levels, and are much less frequent drops generally, so it may be harder to see at first glance. But come on, it's been over 15 months...
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
It wasn't a private server, I think I shouldn't talk about it here anymore (maybe on priv).
q7 max couldn't have dropped after NF update, it was a global change. The fact people don't farm lv 18-20 mobs as much as they did in the past doesn't affect the probability of having a mob of a given level drop an item with lower req than supposed as this hasn't changed. It only means that less of them enters the economy. If you still believe a req.7 can drop, tell me why not a single WHITE (or blue, they're treated the same by the game) max req.7 has dropped post NF then? They were pretty common before NF and they could drop from ANY mobs level 24-28+ Now look at the sheer mass of whites/blues that drop nowadays. If you play the game you should see them drop everywhere, in huge quantities. How often do you see a max req.8 white/blue drop? From my observations, and I play and played the game A LOT, it's about the same rate at which req.7 whites/blues dropped before NF. They just did a +1 to min allowed req. The difference was obvious for me just by looking at the common drops during the first week post NF release. Haven't you noticed a change? Before NF max req8 whites were exactly as common as max req9 whites. After NF the req8 whites mysteriously disappeared from the loads of merch'ed junk, and single ones appear once a couple dozen hours of play. Just as r7s did before NF... The same applies to golds, but they have req anomalies at lower drop levels, and are much less frequent drops generally, so it may be harder to see at first glance. But come on, it's been over 15 months... So now your even claiming max req7 whites dont even drop. lol
Sab
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Where did i say farm hard enough I didnt. Yes they still do drop. I dont care if you and others dont believe me or not. But they still do drop. You and others saying they dont drop doesnt make it any more true either.
There hasn't been a single confirmed r7 max inscribable item, ever. After 15 months of play, don't you think that maybe even *one* person could offer to show an r7 item ingame, or maybe have one for sale on Guru? To anyone with a functioning brain, that suggests they don't drop anymore. Ups.
thehoweller
Manitoba...Lol at your pitiful, baseless claim...You, unlike anyone doubting you have no evidence to prove your point.
A comparison to your fruitless actions is like trying to prove to everyone that the sky was purple a moment ago. But, when we look, it's blue, as it always is. And like you're doing now, you claim to have proof, but have lost it. So, until you have "proof", stop making baseless claims... You can speculate, but don't attempt to change facts.
MirkoTeran
I vote to close this thread until some provides a soldid proof of gold, max damage, req7 still drop.
KartMan
hi there,
I don't really understand why some ppl get so tense about such little things sometimes  anyways, I believe gold max req 7 still drop, probably not in NF/GWEN, so don't expect max req 7 inscribable stuff ... I'm going to try out a few spots and see what I get cheers
RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by Sab
Manitoba, I seriously don't know why you're allowed to post.
Max 7 items don't drop anymore. It's pretty easy to disprove this, however - offer to show an inscribable r7 max item ingame. But you can't, nor can anyone else, because they don't exist and they're not going to drop. Saying rubbish like, "but I got a r7 item last week but i dont have it anymore lolol" isn't going to cut it. Nor is telling people that they can find their own r7 item if they farm hard enough. Fact is, anyone with a insc r7 item can prove that they exist with absolute certainty by showing it ingame, but they - for one reason or another - conveniently don't have it anymore. Don't waste your time. QFT, why the hell has this gone on for 5 pages papryk
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Originally Posted by Sab
There hasn't been a single confirmed r7 max inscribable item, ever.
Where Manitoba said that req 7 INSCRIBABLE drop?
fgarvin
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
QFT, why the hell has this gone on for 5 pages
Because for some odd reason, people choose to quote an ENTIRE post even though they are responding to only a small part of the post in their reply.
deluxe
Manitoba should be banned for being a retard.
afya
sry for pushing this thread back up again
I have one question: what mode do you think would drop r8 max? what i think is that NM may have more low req weapons while HM may have more max weapons where did you get your r8's from?
thehoweller
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Originally Posted by papryk
saying that req 7 dont drop anymore is baseless too... any link to confirm that? Gaile chat log? anything? no? hum.....
Sorry dude, but everytime a r9 max inscribable drops, and an r7 doesn't is proof of most "rational" people's claims. To say r7, max inscribables still drop while at the same time offering no proof other than a giant, go here, kill these plan, sounds more than unlikely.
In summary, of course the lack of evidence doesn't disprove it entirely. It only makes Manitoba's claims "baseless" and gives absolutely no reason for the creation of this thread. So, until an r7 max inscribable is found, stop posting about farming them. Oh, and papryk, try defending someone who can think next time. Wow, I love arguing!
thehoweller
Jesus christ, can someone simply post an image of an r7 max gold, with the mob killed, as well as the date it was found on...I want this thread closed, it's turning into a Guild War's religious argument that'll go no where.
Avatar Exico
It True Period REQ 7 DONT DROP ANYMORE, there 2 places that they used drop that was the old HoH Chest and the Chest on Sliverpeaks(that dropped 5-10 items i forgot the name). Only find Gold Non Max Req7 weapons now but not max. Anet has taken them out. When Proph came out alot of people were selling Req7 FDS for 100k+xxxE. Yea Please close this thread.
Slabby
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
It True Period REQ 7 DONT DROP ANYMORE, there 2 places that they used drop that was the old HoH Chest and the Chest on Sliverpeaks(that dropped 5-10 items i forgot the name). Only find Gold Non Max Req7 weapons now but not max. Anet has taken them out. When Proph came out alot of people were selling Req7 FDS for 100k+xxxE. Yea Please close this thread.
Yeah that explains the req.7 CANTHAN skinned weapons...
Avatar Exico
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Originally Posted by Slabby
Yeah that explains the req.7 CANTHAN skinned weapons...
Those Canthan Weapons were from the Old HoH Chest when it was just Proph and Factions.
niek2004
i think weapons are generated by a code, and thers always a glitch in codes...
thehoweller
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i think weapons are generated by a code, and thers always a glitch in codes...
Good for you.
Close the thread, moderators...It's a religious debate now. HayesA
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Originally Posted by niek2004
i think weapons are generated by a code, and thers always a glitch in codes...
There are never glitches in code. But there are errors in the planning of code. Either Human, or Logic. If there are q7 max damage golds dropping, then it's probably a human error. Code either works, and works the way you code it, or it doesn't work. If it doesn't work then it's either an error in your logic, or you put a semi-colon where a comma should have gone. Which would be a human error.
stretchs
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Originally Posted by HayesA
There are never glitches in code. But there are errors in the planning of code. Either Human, or Logic. If there are q7 max damage golds dropping, then it's probably a human error. Code either works, and works the way you code it, or it doesn't work. If it doesn't work then it's either an error in your logic, or you put a semi-colon where a comma should have gone. Which would be a human error.
/signed sealed and delivered
KartMan
hi again,
I tried a few runs yesterday in one of the spot I think might fit, I didn't get a max dmg req 7 (would be too easy  ), but I did get a few close to max req 7 and even a req 6 14 ar shield, and I also got a max dmg gold (req 11), I will try some more when I have the timecheers
The Rift
Please close this.
Both side's here are making claims they can't support with proper proof.
ryanryanryan0310
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
It True Period REQ 7 DONT DROP ANYMORE, there 2 places that they used drop that was the old HoH Chest and the Chest on Sliverpeaks(that dropped 5-10 items i forgot the name). Only find Gold Non Max Req7 weapons now but not max. Anet has taken them out. When Proph came out alot of people were selling Req7 FDS for 100k+xxxE. Yea Please close this thread.
/FAIL
Shiverpeak chest was taken out the first few weeks of guildwars. So they couldn't have drop max req 7 items. Canthan did drop max req 7 items from baddies and mostly from chests. As I actually had gotten a few from them. Topic: I tried this for fun and the best i got was req 6 14ar shield purple.
oknar
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Shiverpeak chest was taken out the first few weeks of guildwars
Where was that chest? I couldn't find anything about that chest on both wiki... Plz tell something more about that, thx....
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Skinny Corpse
If I recall correctly it was in the Dreadnaught's Drift, to the far right.. I think it was supposed to
spawn when you'd killed the wurm boss the eventually spawns there.
cataphract
There were two chests in Drednaught's Drift and it wasn't neccessary to kill Maw.
Skinny Corpse
oh ok.. never saw any of them tho.. just what I've been told.
Slabby
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Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
Shiverpeak chest was taken out the first few weeks of guildwars.
If I can remember correctly they have been removed much later.
They removed the chest the exact week I started playing GW. And since I'm waaaaay behind with the Birthday Miniatures I would say there was a gap of like 6 months between removal of Dreadnought's Chests. |
