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sterbenx2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

New England

Lunatic Legion

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04 Feb 2008 at 17:04 - 81

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Originally Posted by Razz Thom

holy cow..............
i thought i'd never see it...........

another ursanQQway thread.......

the only people who truly want this skill nerfed or removed are leetist jerks who want DOA UW and FOW back to themselves and they will say anything to get it back that way. If you aren't discriminated against over Ursan, you will be over not being one of the holy trinity or not being experienced enough anyway. Plz god let it alone and plz let these QQ threads stop already.

A-Net plz give the leetists back their crutch so whilr they are in their basements wishing for a life, they can at least FEEL Uber for a little while.

Crutch? You're supporting Uway and you say WE have a crutch? LoL. wow man. thx for /failing.

Anyway, Ursan should be nerfed to death. Seriously. DO you honestly think a Mes plays a Mes to be an Ursan? or a Rit or Para or any other class for that matter? NO! similar to the Derv god forms and the NF worms. Wake up Anet! We like OUR CLASSES.. NOT FORMING INTO SOMETHING ELSE TO PLAY. nuff said.

How bout a change, Avatar of Balthazar gives you unremovable enchant buffs, no change to character, NF worm.. Your are "blessed" by the worm, you can walk on sulfer.. god damn, I really hate these "form" things. Ursan is for wanks that are lazy or unable to play properly.

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

04 Feb 2008 at 17:57 - 82

this is what i think of the situation. I think those that say the ursan skill deminished profession discrimination are correct. I play ele so don't have this problem, but i do have an assassin, mesmer, and paragon that i would like to play with in elite areas, which having the ursan skill allows me to join in those groups.

so I don't understand why anyone can complain about these pve skills. And you know what. For those complaining now i can say to you "Now you know how it feels to be left out, so deal with it because those who only enjoy playing mesmer, sin, paragon have been going threw with this sh*t for the past year, year and a half"

you don't like it then buy the expansion and get the ursan skill.

oh and yea discrimination still exists within the ursanway party anyway. you need to be rank9+. so where does it end. It's human nature to want the best of anything. I am rank7 ursan and willing to farm the title to rank9+. I'm a casual player by the way. I barely play and i have no problem with anything Anet implemented. It's not a crazy grind for raising the title rank.

Razz Thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Three Feet Below Sea [LevL]

D/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 18:10 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterbenx2

Crutch? You're supporting Uway and you say WE have a crutch? LoL. wow man. thx for /failing.

Anyway, Ursan should be nerfed to death. Seriously. DO you honestly think a Mes plays a Mes to be an Ursan? or a Rit or Para or any other class for that matter? NO! similar to the Derv god forms and the NF worms. Wake up Anet! We like OUR CLASSES.. NOT FORMING INTO SOMETHING ELSE TO PLAY. nuff said.

How bout a change, Avatar of Balthazar gives you unremovable enchant buffs, no change to character, NF worm.. Your are "blessed" by the worm, you can walk on sulfer.. god damn, I really hate these "form" things. Ursan is for wanks that are lazy or unable to play properly.

yep i'm saying you have a crutch, why? because even now you are seething that your "so called" balanced build for xxxxxx(insert elite area here) isn't being forced on others anymore. therefore you feel less Uber than you are used to. Now other proffesions than the holy 3 are being used in your area and you can't keep the "n00bs" out so they are getting ectos and armbraces too. and that makes your tiny little E-peen shrivel more, so you can't have that now can you. as for you calling me fail, i have never been in an ursanway group even though i have the skill and rank 8 norn. but if it is helping other people get the most enjoyment out of THEIR game that THEY bought also then let it go already. be less of a leetist failure yourself and freaking drop it already. if i do decide to go into an ursanway group it will be a huge blessing knowing way down inside that jerks like you won't be there.

Cab Tastic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Rt/

04 Feb 2008 at 18:16 - 84

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Originally Posted by aapo

- Rits are really poor. Probably the worst primary profession for PvE. Assassins can do damage, Mesmers have Signet of Illusions and decent PvE skills. Channeling is the only viable tree.

Is this a serious post??

I know rits are possibly not the most potent class but hardly the Worse. Is there anything in the game that can generate the amount of damage that splinter/barrage can?

I know this is situational. But in PVE the chance to splinter occurs more times than not.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 18:16 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razz Thom

yep i'm saying you have a crutch, why? because even now you are seething that your "so called" balanced build for xxxxxx(insert elite area here) isn't being forced on others anymore. therefore you feel less Uber than you are used to. Now other proffesions than the holy 3 are being used in your area and you can't keep the "n00bs" out so they are getting ectos and armbraces too. and that makes your tiny little E-peen shrivel more, so you can't have that now can you. as for you calling me fail, i have never been in an ursanway group even though i have the skill and rank 8 norn. but if it is helping other people get the most enjoyment out of THEIR skill that THEY bought also then let it go already. be less of a leetist failure yourself and freaking drop it already. if i do decide to go into an ursanway group it will be a huge blessing knowing way down inside that jerks like you won't be there.

Actually...A: This forces other people to buy a game OVER ONE SKILL.
And B: People expect you to grind grind grind JUST so you can complete an area.
Ah, yeah - I would call the rank discrim on UB elitism myself, in a way.

buzzerman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 18:30 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterbenx2

Seriously. DO you honestly think a Mes plays a Mes to be an Ursan? or a Rit or Para or any other class for that matter?

No, but it's good to have the choice. You still don't get it?

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We like OUR CLASSES.. NOT FORMING INTO SOMETHING ELSE TO PLAY.

Get real: nobody (except perhaps stupid PUGs) forces you to use the Ursan or other blessings in order to play and enjoy this game. But again, it's good to have the choice to use them. I thank you Anet for providing this kind of variety to us, the non-elite-ego players..

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 18:34 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzerman

Get real: nobody (except perhaps stupid PUGs) forces you to use the Ursan or other blessings in order to play and enjoy this game. But again, it's good to have the choice to use them. I thank you Anet for providing this kind of variety to us, the non-elite-ego players..

Get real: pretty much 90% of PuG's run UB now, I have NOT seen a single balanced group for doing it. Ever since UB was published to be over the line in imba.
Also: Variety is not the word - you should just say "Monk and Ursan".

deadlynoob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Flamers does need skills!

04 Feb 2008 at 18:35 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Actually...A: This forces other people to buy a game OVER ONE SKILL.
And B: People expect you to grind grind grind JUST so you can complete an area.
Ah, yeah - I would call the rank discrim on UB elitism myself, in a way.

yea i agree with you, we should force anet to make all skill core only so i can use faction and prophecies skills too.

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

04 Feb 2008 at 18:39 - 89

There's a reason why people run about 2-3 'standard' builds in the high-end areas. Coz the people you get have a good chance of sucking and by at least running a somewhat safe build you still have a shot at doing ok.

Afaik as FoW goes I can't tell you how many times I've had some dummy take the ghost immediately after entering and get us wiped in 30 seconds.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 18:39 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadlynoob

yea i agree with you, we should force anet to make all skill core only so i can use faction and prophecies skills too.

Yes but (before UB) you can actually get in PuG's if your missing a campaign.
Now can you? No.

Razz Thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Three Feet Below Sea [LevL]

D/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 18:41 - 91

Not really because the normal leetist douchebags are still hanging around and talking down to them for showing up with a mesmer thinking they would get into a group. Either way it is "buy another game" or "buy another character slot to roll a xxxxx(insert holy 3 class here) + go learn these skills and practice for 6 years and then if i am still playing you can maybe join my group". One is obviously just as bad as the other, but the profit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs are still jamming on ursan for lowering their percieved "uberness"(pronounced lifeless self-worth). Ursan is working out for those who bought GWEN and like using it, for those without it the options didn't get worse they just didn't get better. Leetist Ursan or Leetist balance are both still spammed in these areas, it just seems as though the "newer" leetist is more prolific for the time being. So with or without it the options are still the same, be a tool or be discriminated against in elite areas.

deadlynoob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Flamers does need skills!

04 Feb 2008 at 18:43 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Yes but (before UB) you can actually get in PuG's if your missing a campaign.
Now can you? No.

true if u missed one of faction/prophecies's duplicated skills, untrue if you are missing both.

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Originally Posted by cgruber

Afaik as FoW goes I can't tell you how many times I've had some dummy take the ghost immediately after entering and get us wiped in 30 seconds.

youtube search: Leeroy Jenkins

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

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04 Feb 2008 at 18:44 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Get real: pretty much 90% of PuG's run UB now, I have NOT seen a single balanced group for doing it. Ever since UB was published to be over the line in imba.
Also: Variety is not the word - you should just say "Monk and Ursan".

I'd say 99% of PuG's run UB now, except for loosers in Ring of Fire missions that still think using 8 random people, 0 monks or elems is good. And they try to do first mission 10 times.

Even people that come to balances want to use Ursan instead of nuker/damage dealer -.-

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 18:47 - 94

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razz Thom

Not really because the normal leetist douchebags are still hanging around and talking down to them for showing up with a mesmer thinking they would get into a group. Either way it is "buy another game" or "buy another character slot to roll a xxxxx(insert holy 3 class here) + go learn these skills and practice for 6 years and then if i am still playing you can maybe join my group". One is obviously just as bad as the other, but the profit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs are still jamming on ursan for lowering their percieved "uberness"(pronounced lifeless self-worth). Ursan is working out for those who bought GWEN and like using it, for those without it the options didn't get worse they just didn't get better. Leetist Ursan or Leetist balance are both still spammed in these areas, it just seems as though the "newer" leetist is more prolific for the time being. So with or without it the options are still the same, be a tool or be discriminated against in elite areas.

Except Ursan Blessing requires you to grind. Except Ursan Blessing requires you to buy an entire game for it.
Holy Trinity is nothing - that build was not used EVERYWHERE.
The only places i ever seen that were The Deep, FoW, DoA.
And no - it isn't for those who bought GWEN. And "Leetist Balance"? I have not seen one of them around lately.

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

04 Feb 2008 at 18:48 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzerman

Get real: nobody (except perhaps stupid PUGs) forces you to use the Ursan or other blessings in order to play and enjoy this game. But again, it's good to have the choice to use them. I thank you Anet for providing this kind of variety to us, the non-elite-ego players..

I have never used a Blessing outside of the quest that actually require them. I run balanced when I do elite areas or any other area for that matter. Does that make me a elite-ego player?

Just because some players use UB and others don't doesn't make anyone anymore or less elite then the other players. Some players are not as skilled as others, so they run UB, which makes the game fairly easy. Some players are skilled enough to run normal builds and succeed but maybe they like to use UB. Fine their choice, we shouldn't tell them otherwise. Others like to play balanced and not use Blessings, this doesn't make them ALL elitist with egos. Yes some are, but once again their choice. UB is a skill that anyone can use (button mashing) but no one is forced to use it.

Razz Thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Three Feet Below Sea [LevL]

D/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 18:51 - 96

then you haven't looked. i see "NO URSAN" in every elite area now. I was in DOA last night and there were at least 3 groups looking for non-ursans. as i said ursan is newer thus more used ATM but the other jerks are still there as well. but the point is that no obviously not every class is =.

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

04 Feb 2008 at 18:52 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by aapo

- Rits are really poor. Probably the worst primary profession for PvE. Assassins can do damage, Mesmers have Signet of Illusions and decent PvE skills. Channeling is the only viable tree.

rits are one of the better profs in pve, splinter weap anchestors rage still rapes pve. And rits have a endless energy pool if they have one of the most usefull rit elites.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 18:57 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razz Thom

then you haven't looked. i see "NO URSAN" in every elite area now. I was in DOA last night and there were at least 3 groups looking for non-ursans. as i said ursan is newer thus more used ATM but the other jerks are still there as well. but the point is that no obviously not every class is =.

Sure they weren't your guildies?
I have very rarely seen non-ursan groups. Even in elite areas.

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 18:57 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by aapo

AAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa aaaaaaRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my ****ing goodness you are ******. Why on the bloody hell do you want to join Ursanway group without Ursan Blessing? And like when group asks for Monk do you get your wammo and start argumenting that "it's like a monk just W primary, I got 8 healing skills"? Start your own noob group for profession viability. Chances are, not many people want to join. Why's that? Because PUGs SUCK and people usually want to get STUFF DONE and NOT FAIL.

i am not asking to join a ursan groups, what I am saying there aren't enogh normal ones

Razz Thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Three Feet Below Sea [LevL]

D/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 19:10 - 100

pretty sure considering me and a friend from another guild were trying something new with just 2 of us and some heros + nobody was really on last night (Superbowl

). but i am tired of arguing about a tactic i don't even use, so in summation i will just say that the advent of Ursan has made very many disenfranchised players happy again, giving those with skill- a chance to go to areas they may otherwise have never accessed. surely this added happiness in a large chunk of the player base can't be looked upon as a bad thing as it has brought even some players who had left the game back to tyria (if only to gripe about Ursan itself). That is all and if you still want to argue, someone else will have to take over for me. (my lunch break is over.)

hurric

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

BC

04 Feb 2008 at 19:12 - 101

Other than DoA I really don't see why any of the 10 professions cannot run any elite areas and I say DoA because ursan cuts the time required to do it by a huge margin.
if any thing Ritualists and paragons are the overpowered classes which provide party heal/damage/support through channeling and restoration skills and paragons through motivation and command along with their high damage.

it just shows ignorance of group if people say these professions are weak.

I ran UB on my Rit for DoA for a while but I quit it because it's just too boring. I would run my Rit or para in DoA but there's no non-ursan groups there.Any other elite areas can be run with almost any profession combination.

my vote goes for sin as least sought after profession in pve because seriously bad sins are just too bad and die before you know it.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 19:13 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razz Thom

pretty sure considering me and a friend from another guild were trying something new with just 2 of us and some heros + nobody was really on last night (Superbowl

). but i am tired of arguing about a tactic i don't even use, so in summation i will just say that the advent of Ursan has made very many disenfranchised players happy again, giving those with skill- a chance to go to areas they may otherwise have never accessed. surely this added happiness in a large chunk of the player base can't be looked upon as a bad thing as it has brought even some players who had left the game back to tyria (if only to gripe about Ursan itself). That is all and if you still want to argue, someone else will have to take over for me. (my lunch break is over.)

Lolwut?
Ursan....Skill?
You're confused, mate.

Razz Thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Three Feet Below Sea [LevL]

D/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 19:17 - 103

i said skill- (as in skill minus) (AKA lack of)

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

E/

04 Feb 2008 at 19:23 - 104

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Cracked Armor+Weakness+Blindness+Epidemic=Laught at melee mobs.
I bring an AirMeser Vekk when facing Destroyers or Golems. Works wonders.

Bringing down almost any foe to a caster (or less tan 100) armor level is priceless, aoe dmg is more effectie after that

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 19:34 - 105

paragons have been mentioned a lot and personaly I think they are the only good thing that came out of Nightfall, dervishes killed pugs, paragon saved them, their sole purpose is to pug, look at their attributes.

buzzerman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 19:40 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by I pwnd U

I have never used a Blessing outside of the quest that actually require them. I run balanced when I do elite areas or any other area for that matter. Does that make me a elite-ego player?

Not at all, I am with you here, I play the same way (mostly because I hate to grind for r7+ Norn rank

). I was talking about those players who not only consider themselves too "leet" to rely on the power of button-mashing Ursan in elite areas, but more importantly, they desperately ask for a Ursan nerf because their ego is sooo bleeding nowadays seeing how Ursan gives other "non-elite" players access to such areas..

Quote:

Some players are not as skilled as others, so they run UB, which makes the game fairly easy. Some players are skilled enough to run normal builds and succeed but maybe they like to use UB. Fine their choice, we shouldn't tell them otherwise.

I fully agree.

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UB is a skill that anyone can use (button mashing) but no one is forced to use it.

Exactly my point. Now the OP was unfortunately adding to that elite-ego bleeding chorus by complaining how stupid PuGs (yeah that could be 90% of them..) demand Ursan now.. Well, they may demand it, but cannot force you to play Ursan if you don't want to.

So my response to the OP is along these lines: just don't play with such close-minded PuGs.. Have patience and look for "balanced" groups, you'll find them. Meanwhile, if you really have nothing else to do in game, you can also grind to raise your Norn rank so you can get into those cheap PuGs too

. Either way you'll find your way in eventually..

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 19:41 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razz Thom

i said skill- (as in skill minus) (AKA lack of)

Playing Ursan Blessing wouldn't help them get better, either way.

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 19:51 - 108

What is up with the guild wars community, are we all a bunch of communists! Yes the whole point of guild wars is that we all start equal and it doesn't depend on grind, but what is the point of any multiplayer game or any real life game if everyone is always equal. You start off equal and then start making something out of yourself. There is no point of any game if everyone is of the same skill level, if that was the case there would be no sport on T.V, because everyone can do it anyway!!!
All Ursan has done is let any idiot button bash and still clear UW, and no I am not being elitist, I am very average player who has just about earned 100k.
I just have sense.
You lot complain about farming being too hard, Anet change it, and then complain that ecto, rare skin prices have fallen, for f*cks sake, no wonder Anet never get it right.

Razz Thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Three Feet Below Sea [LevL]

D/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 19:59 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Playing Ursan Blessing wouldn't help them get better, either way.

Who gives a S**T? Screw em. Let em stay bad if it makes them happy. It really isn't your business.

forgot to say.... the unskilled doorknobs who think warriors and mending are a good combo bought GW just like those with the capacity to learn. they should be entitled to enjoy their money too.

deadlynoob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Flamers does need skills!

04 Feb 2008 at 20:22 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Playing Ursan Blessing wouldn't help them get better, either way.

i wonder how many times you used this argument lol

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

04 Feb 2008 at 21:02 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadlynoob

i wonder how many times you used this argument lol

It's rather hard to notice if a player is getting better when Ursan reduces your options to KD stuff, yell, run fast, and do some damage.

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

04 Feb 2008 at 21:24 - 112

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Don't mind me, I'm just droning on my mantra.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 22:01 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Since many people are still convinced that bonder is better than SY and TNTF, it wouldn't change anything...

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

04 Feb 2008 at 22:49 - 114

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Originally Posted by Antheus

Since many people are still convinced that bonder is better than SY and TNTF, it wouldn't change anything...

Well, TNTF has a downtime since it got nerfed, meaning you need at least two Paras to keep it up permanently. And in the tank-nuke-heal mentality, you only really need to prot the tank, not the whole party, so why bother?

Truth is, I loved tank-nuke-heal. When done correctly, it was powerful, efficient, fun to play and still challenging in Elite areas.

Ursanway has killed this. Overpowered craziness that gets boring real fast.

If Anet really wanted to innovate, they could've made some of the least wanted professions in PvE (such as Mesmer) more powerful by giving them godlike PvE skills, instead of forcing them to play carebear.

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

04 Feb 2008 at 23:16 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

The vast majority of the faction and Sunspear skills are hacks already. What more do you want?

"Power Word, Kill": Shout, 5 energy, 1 recharge
Target monster of level 28 or less dies instantly.

The problem is that UB is overpowered, NOT that other skills are underpowered. You fix the meta by fixing the one overpowered skill, not by buffing tons of skills in order for them to compete with UB.

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

W/

05 Feb 2008 at 00:00 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

The vast majority of the faction and Sunspear skills are hacks already. What more do you want?

"Power Word, Kill": Shout, 5 energy, 1 recharge
Target monster of level 28 or less dies instantly.

The problem is that UB is overpowered, NOT that other skills are underpowered. You fix the meta by fixing the one overpowered skill, not by buffing tons of skills in order for them to compete with UB.

Exactly. IMO UB should have stayed in that one mission, or brought back in different missions like the Wurms in NF. The sad thing about all of this is that it's becoming more frequent that if you do not have UB or refuse to use it people will refuse to group with you...

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

05 Feb 2008 at 00:26 - 117

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Originally Posted by RedNova88

Exactly. IMO UB should have stayed in that one mission, or brought back in different missions like the Wurms in NF. The sad thing about all of this is that it's becoming more frequent that if you do not have UB or refuse to use it people will refuse to group with you...

And now those of you who perpetrated the "holy triumvirate" can all feel the pain of those of us whom are mesmers, rangers and other scorned classes as our primary character.

My heart bleeds for your loss, truly, it does.

Of course, no one here ever played the triumvirate either, oh no, not at all...
And, of course, a mesmer was always welcome in all of your pugs too.

Can a mod please close this topic? After all, this has already been done to death in about 10 other threads.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

05 Feb 2008 at 00:40 - 118

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

Well, TNTF has a downtime since it got nerfed, meaning you need at least two Paras to keep it up permanently. And in the tank-nuke-heal mentality, you only really need to prot the tank, not the whole party, so why bother?

Truth is, I loved tank-nuke-heal. When done correctly, it was powerful, efficient, fun to play and still challenging in Elite areas.

But lacks skill. No one is gonna make me believe that bonding and tanking in PvE takes skill cause it doesn't. Hence why I'll ruin the tanks aggro to show you how bad you guys really do suck. Also another reason not to tank is a lot of pugs will get in the aggro bubble and then the tank is useless where as an attacking warrior wouldn't be.

Also the Ghostly Hero doesn't move if you take the quest when you start FoW, at least not anymore, only after you kill the first Abyssal group on the southernmost/westernmost side.

Also my friend and his friend can do FoW on HM with 2 sins, using sin skills and no Shadow Form. With H/H. They charge to do it actually so yeah Sins' don't suck.

Anet needs to nerf the stickler groups so that people have to think outside the box for once.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

05 Feb 2008 at 01:55 - 119

Make it so enemies will at random moments just run around a bit behind the tank, getting in other people's aggro bubbles. That should be fun : )

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

05 Feb 2008 at 01:57 - 120

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Originally Posted by aapo

AAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa aaaaaaRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my ****ing goodness you are ******. Why on the bloody hell do you want to join Ursanway group without Ursan Blessing? And like when group asks for Monk do you get your wammo and start argumenting that "it's like a monk just W primary, I got 8 healing skills"? Start your own noob group for profession viability. Chances are, not many people want to join. Why's that? Because PUGs SUCK and people usually want to get STUFF DONE and NOT FAIL.

Why do you feel the need to use expletives