rollerbeetle racing highscore cheating?

spookycloud

spookycloud

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

D/

I notice that the highscore at the momnet is at about 481,000 and I have played many games already and I have not seen 1 person get over 440,000 what are these people doing to get 481,000?

Jelly Doughnuts

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Look behind you

Everlasting Legacy

I don't really know to tell you the truth, i was playing this game with a guy who was going faster then everyone the whole game, and he only got like 451,000.

Jelly Doughnuts

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Look behind you

Everlasting Legacy

It REALLY helps to get the super rollerbug thing, #8 on the build.

Thor Tyr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Spartan Red Team [SRT]

Mo/A

I was thinking the same thing i have only gotten up to 450K but i was in a game where one guy got 462K and he was done before anyone was even half done

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

One of these options:

1) They got REALLY lucky, and only got SRB/Echo's, WITHOUT ANY KD/Rubberband... (Highly Unlikely seeing how hard it is to even get 1 SRB in a match)

2) They "hacked" the client (I have NO clue if "what the box" gives you is serverbased or client based. But I do know however that there still are people out there that can manually DC someone. It actually happened to me not to long ago... (I have NO clue how they do it, but they can)

3) They are friends/testers or whatever position you can have which would give you the powers to just "enter" the scores...

4) They got so lucky EVERYONE left/errored, ending up in a 1v1, solo race...
I HIGHLY doubt it is Nr1, seeing how I have NO life (Atleast I admit), and I prolly did over 500 Beetle racing's, and in NONE, I got more than 3 SRB's...

Also, please don't say it's skill. Skill can't get you a speed buff/anti KD, can it?

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Those who get the luckiest with the strong combination of powerups, in addition to having the knowhow to move on the track perfectly, in addition to not getting hit at all during the race, are going to be the only ones in the top 100.

It is also possible that they have friends on their team who agree not to hit each other. Or that they get all players to agree to not hit each other; cooperation like that would make everyone have a much better chance to get a high score, but most players are unfortunately too dumb to realize this and thus that is generally not something that would happen often with a group of strangers.

Sent

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/E

If it was all luck how can one guy have be on the list 35 times out of the top 100

Fox Reeveheart

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

D/

This may be a clone kinda to the whole cheating thread but I also noticed that there is two specific people who have about half of the records to themselves.

Whats up with these guys? I been beetle racing SINCE 3 PM! (noon pacific when it started) and only took a break to walk to the liquor store 2 blocks away, 10 minutes. Now in a race a 3 superbeetles and not being hit once I was able to finish with 455. they are constantly having high 460's and up.

I heard this term a few days ago so i'll just say it.... load syncing? I'm sorry but nobody is lucky enough to have 20+ races in the top 100.

I hope anet takes a look at those scores and not turn a blind eye. Maybe they should make it that you can only recieve one mini? If you happen to beat your old record it replaces the record instead, the old one erases.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Apparently they're very skilled. And serious. About their business.

Isn't that what racing is about?

Fox Reeveheart

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

D/

yes you go on and think that. I'm a bit smarter than that.

Lady Yuna

Lady Yuna

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside your closet.......

ViLE

Mo/W

that's NASCAR, this is rollerbeetle racing. Your beetle don't smoke when it hit the walls.

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

They only get 1 mini pet even if they have all 100 top scores. But I agree with you Fox.

Lady Yuna

Lady Yuna

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside your closet.......

ViLE

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down
They only get 1 mini pet even if they have all 100 top scores. But I agree with you Fox.
They dominate the game so they're the only ones who get the mini>sell at High price(more like scam)>0_o.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

IMO you should be allowed only one spot in the top 100 per account.

Draikin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

It obviously isn't luck, I think those people just figured out how to get top times without even getting an echo + super rollerbeetle combo. The people that completely relied on box-camping and constantly leaving races to get the right combo can't do that anymore, so the players that really know how to use only the core skills to get top times are going to be more successful.

MarlinBackna

MarlinBackna

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

[TAM]

W/

Seriously, one guy has 33 spots on the list. He owns one-third of the list. Thats 32 more people that could have the prize. It's is as much his fault as Anet's, but obviously this pig isn't going to stop because of my QQing, so Anet, it seriously cannot be that hard to use a different system to pull the top 100 people. And it could be applied to all the challenge mission ladders too.

And I thought that the lack of box-camping would reduce the b.s. surrounding the rollerbeetle racing. Boy was I wrong.

Lady Yuna

Lady Yuna

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside your closet.......

ViLE

Mo/W

all for the heck of one mini beetle. YAY!

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart
yes you go on and think that. I'm a bit smarter than that.
I disagree with you on your original post, and the second sentence of this post I'm quoting.

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

It is possible to get up to 482k points with ONLY 1 ECHO and 1 super rollerbeetle. My 2 high scores of 481k were just that. I'm not sure how they get so many high scores though, that's pretty good consistency of getting SRB's, and especially considering you can't /resign or X out anymore cuz of dishonor points.

Sent

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/E

Did you not get knocked down at all?

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sent
Did you not get knocked down at all?
Nope of course not. On these record runs, I was out of view of everyone else by the 1 min mark.

spookycloud

spookycloud

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sent
If it was all luck how can one guy have be on the list 35 times out of the top 100
yes,I have noticed this also there is about 2-3 guys with 20+ scores on the top 100 I would like to know what is up with this anyone think they know?

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ekelon
Nope of course not. On these record runs, I was out of view of everyone else by the 1 min mark.
So U got lucky, and didn't get KD'ed AND got a speed buff...

However, I do think there is something fishy with these people...

RollerBeetle is MORE luck than skill, cuz face it, NOT rubberbanding isn't rly skill...

The only skill there is to it, is trying to put up a shield at correct times. (Which I usually succeed at)

Sent

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/E

Even with 20 sec of speed boost I still dont see how it's possible without some weird shortcut no one knows about.

Blu

Blu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Michigan

Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT]

R/

There probably is this secret method somewhere 0.o

The Bard

The Bard

Metal Machine

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

well the list is obviously suffering from frightening design flaws ._____. I've seen the list and it's just insanely lame.. No one on the list is on it only once. Fix now or don't give out special rewards to 3 *possibly* cheating players.

Thor Tyr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Spartan Red Team [SRT]

Mo/A

I wish you could Practice the Map so that you could see if it is possible to get that fast while no one else is stopping you

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor Tyr
I wish you could Practice the Map so that you could see if it is possible to get that fast while no one else is stopping you
That's a great idea right there.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

synching, then everyone else drops out

the /report system obviously fails when everyone else in your race is your friend

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

the whole thing is badly broken. He's probably synching with friends, so the /report thing fails. Even though he'll only get 1 beetle, Gaile has said that other people won't get bumped up into the top 100, so he's still effectively cornering the market this year on top 100.

Nice system. Example #2343 of how Anet fails on festivals.

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killed u man
So U got lucky, and didn't get KD'ed AND got a speed buff...

However, I do think there is something fishy with these people...

RollerBeetle is MORE luck than skill, cuz face it, NOT rubberbanding isn't rly skill...

The only skill there is to it, is trying to put up a shield at correct times. (Which I usually succeed at)
Yea, Rollerbeetle is 3 things:

1. Luck (Getting SRB's and also not getting KD'd at the beginning)

2. Ping (You need below 100ms ping to minimize rubberbanding, and you still do even at low pings because sometimes you rubberband not because of ping but because of getting stuck behind other players).

3. Skill, you need to know what to dash and ram, and also if you ARE lagging you need to know how to minimize your chance of rubberbanding.

NathanMurray

NathanMurray

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Sydney, Australia

No Guild Yet Starting Fresh

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor Tyr
I wish you could Practice the Map so that you could see if it is possible to get that fast while no one else is stopping you
Thats a great idea and should be used.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ekelon
Yea, Rollerbeetle is 3 things:

1. Luck (Getting SRB's and also not getting KD'd at the beginning)

2. Ping (You need below 100ms ping to minimize rubberbanding, and you still do even at low pings because sometimes you rubberband not because of ping but because of getting stuck behind other players).

3. Skill, you need to know what to dash and ram, and also if you ARE lagging you need to know how to minimize your chance of rubberbanding.
Luck represents more than 3/4..

Draikin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killed u man
Luck represents more than 3/4.
You wouldn't constantly be seeing the same names on the top 100 if that were true.

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killed u man
Luck represents more than 3/4..
Luck doesn't represent that much because after you play the stupid roller beetle racings 100 times, it kind of averages out for everyone.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Uhh, its not that hard. Just get an echo and super at the start, and maybe another super or two, and WHAM, you are 465+. There is a huge portion of luck, but the top racers can also do the map in their sleep.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

It's like playing Poker.

You have GOOD poker players and BAD poker players.

However, if your cards suck, you won't win... (You can bluff, but you can't bluff with rollerbeetle, can you? )

You can get NO SRB, and still win, however, beating someone WHO keeps getting them, is impossible

Ancient Menace

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Solve this problem by giving us observer mode in Roller Beetle Races. That way, if they are cheating, it'll be blatantly obvious to everyone. If they aren't and know some super secret shortcut that magically only they know, then everyone will know and they won't have the corner on the market (top 100).

Chants: Observer Mode Observer Mode Observer Mode

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

I don't know, maybe this person is just very skilled at what he is doing. Can you people really not take this fact without resorting to calling him a cheat?
I say GG to whomever this person is.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Dude, "skill"?

Please don't post such ignorant things plz...

"Skill" DOES NOT GIVE YOU SPEED BUFF OR ANTI KD!