Doesn't seem like a bug to me, ram works differently than a skill stack because it's dynamic.
Ram will save your current RRPM and return to that amount when it ends. e.g.
Starting RRPM 25%, use ram, 25% saved as a variable, ram finishes, load variable.
Starting RRPM 25%, use ram, 25% saved as a variable, once you reach 100% before ram ends, use ram again, 100% is saved as the variable of your starting RRPM before the original variable had time to load, ram finishes, you return to 100% rrpm when the new variable amount is loaded.
A simple fix to this "bug" would be to make sure that when you use ram a second time the original variable containing your RRPM is not replaced or is loaded first before increasing the speed to 100%. This way, no matter how many rams you used or echo'd, you'd always return to your original starting RRPM before the first ram was used.
rollerbeetle racing highscore cheating?
vixro
Feathermoore Rep
The chances of a top100 time without double ram are definately not likely. You have to perform an absolutlely flawless run. An echo+srb in the first two boxes, is your only shot. Even then without knowledge of the double ram trick for the spiral bridge or an echo. You're not going to make a top 100 time. Theres no way to keep as much speed through that section without it. IMO ~467k-470k is probably the limit on that run without double ram. Yes a 7-10s second difference in time from the top 100. With double ram you easily gain several seconds in the first two gates. In the later half on the beach, if you don't double ram, between the bridge and the spiral, you lose way to much speed, and theres your extra 5-7 seconds easily lost.
The problem with double ram, is that when you use it before it ends, instead of updating the skill duration, it cancels the skills and then applys a new one. If you ram to late the skill works as intended. But when you use it before it ends, it acts like its not already activated, theres where the update to 100% rrpm on ending comes in.
So yes its this is BUG. No other skill in the game works like this, so you can't say theres logic to it. You can reverse engineer how the RBR logic is interpretting the skill, but you can't say that compared to how every other skill in guildwars works, that its logical.
And Lain - stop baiting Killed U Man. Whether you won or not I don't care, but you don't have to shove it in his face/anyone else's that they didn't make top 100. The fact comes down to that the double-ram significantly improves your average time, and to consistently been able to have a chance at top100 times you had to have used it.
Thats what it all comes down to.
The problem with double ram, is that when you use it before it ends, instead of updating the skill duration, it cancels the skills and then applys a new one. If you ram to late the skill works as intended. But when you use it before it ends, it acts like its not already activated, theres where the update to 100% rrpm on ending comes in.
So yes its this is BUG. No other skill in the game works like this, so you can't say theres logic to it. You can reverse engineer how the RBR logic is interpretting the skill, but you can't say that compared to how every other skill in guildwars works, that its logical.
And Lain - stop baiting Killed U Man. Whether you won or not I don't care, but you don't have to shove it in his face/anyone else's that they didn't make top 100. The fact comes down to that the double-ram significantly improves your average time, and to consistently been able to have a chance at top100 times you had to have used it.
Thats what it all comes down to.
Lain Akazukin
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The chances of a top100 time without double ram are definately not likely. You have to perform an absolutlely flawless run. An echo+srb in the first two boxes, is your only shot. Even then without knowledge of the double ram trick for the spiral bridge or an echo. You're not going to make a top 100 time. Theres no way to keep as much speed through that section without it. IMO ~467k-470k is probably the limit on that run without double ram. Yes a 7-10s second difference in time from the top 100. With double ram you easily gain several seconds in the first two gates. In the later half on the beach, if you don't double ram, between the bridge and the spiral, you lose way to much speed, and theres your extra 5-7 seconds easily lost.
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And Lain - stop baiting Killed U Man. Whether you won or not I don't care, but you don't have to shove it in his face/anyone else's that they didn't make top 100. The fact comes down to that the double-ram significantly improves your average time, and to consistently been able to have a chance at top100 times you had to have used it. Thats what it all comes down to. |
Feathermoore Rep
Ok, so your telling me with just ram and dash for the spiral bridge section, you can maintain 75%+ all almost way through? I'm sorry thats just not possible. You need to either have an SRB, an echo, or the effect of a dash/ram/srb just wearing off as you enter the bridge in order to do that. Without it, as soon as you hit the beach your down to regular speed.
I didn't say you couldn't post a top 100 without it, I just said its not likely.
I didn't say you couldn't post a top 100 without it, I just said its not likely.
Performance Pudding
ive gotten 460 with 1 super roller beetle and a echo
if u get 2 which since i know a few people with the mini thats how they did it
ya so its basically luck of the box and noobs racing against you
if u get 2 which since i know a few people with the mini thats how they did it
ya so its basically luck of the box and noobs racing against you
??Evan??
I HAVE FIGURED OUT THE SECRET TO ROLLERBEETLE RACING.
and it is...................................
DONT SUCK.
and it is...................................
DONT SUCK.
Lain Akazukin
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Ok, so your telling me with just ram and dash for the spiral bridge section, you can maintain 75%+ all almost way through? I'm sorry thats just not possible.
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It doesn't make a huge difference with classic echo/SRB, because of where you have to burn the speed buffs. You save yourself about a second with a double ram at gate 2. You save yourself about a second or two with the double ram at the end. Power-ramming the shortcut helps, but the rams aren't how you pick up the time there (this is incidental to what you really accomplish).
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The fact is that there was an exploit, people exploited it, and got rare mini-beetles and cheeted many people out of getting one.
its not an exploit you say?
then why didn't ye it on fforums when the whoel thing was being talked about?.....oh yeah then ye would habve to rely on skill, silly me.
btw any of those that got it fairly ,gratz on your mini
Killed u man
What is wrong with some people? Lain Akazukin, you are ,close to, the most ignorant person I have met on a forum
You KNOW you're wrong, and you as a defense you always hide behind the: "I WUS WAAYA BETTA AND U JUST SACKED!!!"
That's not how it works, I give an arguement, and you give one. Whoever gets the best/most good arguements wins...
And yes: "You should have played better" is NOT an arguement.
You say you got 2 TOP100 scores without Dual Ram? Bs, what's the point of lying here? I must have done over 500 runs during the weekend (Prolly bit more), and I NEVER managed to get passed Spiral at constant High speed. (Unless I had echo or SRB)
I tried about 50 different strategies, varieing from Ram -> Dash, Ram -> Dash before Gate, etc... NONE of them got me closely to what Dual Ram did. Dual Ram for me trough that intire area a +- 85% Speed (Without Echo or SRB)... My max score (With 2 SRB and Echo) was 467K, Still lacking 13K, I hardly believe you can make up 13 seconds without Dual Ramming!
Look, Ram does NOT work the way a skill SHOULD work, it works like a Stance, on TOP of that, the speed reduction (After Ram) does NOT take place untill another half second after the "stance" has ended. This also is bugged.
These 2 bugs together make it so you can "Dual Ram". And believe, I have NOTHING against it, as long as Anet had mentioned it somewhere.
You say am too "bad" to get in top 100? Ok, once again, and please just read this: HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN, THAT IN THE LAST 3 HOURS (When I found out about Dual Ram) MY AVERAGE SCORE WENT UP WITH 10-12K, AND MY MAX SCORES WERE 474K, 472K, 471K? IN NONE OF THESE RUNS I GOT MORE THAN 1 ECHO OR 1 SRB!
If I knew about the exploit in the beginning of the Event, I would have had a Beetle. But gues what, that's NOT my point, my point is that "glitch" abusing is getting rewarded...
You KNOW you're wrong, and you as a defense you always hide behind the: "I WUS WAAYA BETTA AND U JUST SACKED!!!"
That's not how it works, I give an arguement, and you give one. Whoever gets the best/most good arguements wins...
And yes: "You should have played better" is NOT an arguement.
You say you got 2 TOP100 scores without Dual Ram? Bs, what's the point of lying here? I must have done over 500 runs during the weekend (Prolly bit more), and I NEVER managed to get passed Spiral at constant High speed. (Unless I had echo or SRB)
I tried about 50 different strategies, varieing from Ram -> Dash, Ram -> Dash before Gate, etc... NONE of them got me closely to what Dual Ram did. Dual Ram for me trough that intire area a +- 85% Speed (Without Echo or SRB)... My max score (With 2 SRB and Echo) was 467K, Still lacking 13K, I hardly believe you can make up 13 seconds without Dual Ramming!
Look, Ram does NOT work the way a skill SHOULD work, it works like a Stance, on TOP of that, the speed reduction (After Ram) does NOT take place untill another half second after the "stance" has ended. This also is bugged.
These 2 bugs together make it so you can "Dual Ram". And believe, I have NOTHING against it, as long as Anet had mentioned it somewhere.
You say am too "bad" to get in top 100? Ok, once again, and please just read this: HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN, THAT IN THE LAST 3 HOURS (When I found out about Dual Ram) MY AVERAGE SCORE WENT UP WITH 10-12K, AND MY MAX SCORES WERE 474K, 472K, 471K? IN NONE OF THESE RUNS I GOT MORE THAN 1 ECHO OR 1 SRB!
If I knew about the exploit in the beginning of the Event, I would have had a Beetle. But gues what, that's NOT my point, my point is that "glitch" abusing is getting rewarded...
~ Dan ~
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That's not how it works, I give an arguement, and you give one. Whoever gets the best/most good arguements wins...
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What is wrong with some people? Lain Akazukin, you are ,close to, the most ignorant person I have met on a forum
You KNOW you're wrong, and you as a defense you always hide behind the: "I WUS WAAYA BETTA AND U JUST SACKED!!!" That's not how it works, I give an arguement, and you give one. Whoever gets the best/most good arguements wins... And yes: "You should have played better" is NOT an arguement. You say you got 2 TOP100 scores without Dual Ram? Bs, what's the point of lying here? I must have done over 500 runs during the weekend (Prolly bit more), and I NEVER managed to get passed Spiral at constant High speed. (Unless I had echo or SRB) I tried about 50 different strategies, varieing from Ram -> Dash, Ram -> Dash before Gate, etc... NONE of them got me closely to what Dual Ram did. Dual Ram for me trough that intire area a +- 85% Speed (Without Echo or SRB)... My max score (With 2 SRB and Echo) was 467K, Still lacking 13K, I hardly believe you can make up 13 seconds without Dual Ramming! Look, Ram does NOT work the way a skill SHOULD work, it works like a Stance, on TOP of that, the speed reduction (After Ram) does NOT take place untill another half second after the "stance" has ended. This also is bugged. These 2 bugs together make it so you can "Dual Ram". And believe, I have NOTHING against it, as long as Anet had mentioned it somewhere. You say am too "bad" to get in top 100? Ok, once again, and please just read this: HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN, THAT IN THE LAST 3 HOURS (When I found out about Dual Ram) MY AVERAGE SCORE WENT UP WITH 10-12K, AND MY MAX SCORES WERE 474K, 472K, 471K? IN NONE OF THESE RUNS I GOT MORE THAN 1 ECHO OR 1 SRB! If I knew about the exploit in the beginning of the Event, I would have had a Beetle. But gues what, that's NOT my point, my point is that "glitch" abusing is getting rewarded... |
every1 who used the double ram as an exploit and not report it should get sanctioned :/ ,even more for pulling out ppl out of the 100 top.
pd: in my opinion Lain akazukin lies... and yuri the first sanctioned for using this exploit to get spots in the top 100 !!
Ekelon
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every1 who used the double ram as an exploit and not report it should get sanctioned :/ ,even more for pulling out ppl out of the 100 top. pd: in my opinion Lain akazukin lies... and yuri the first sanctioned for using this exploit to get spots in the top 100 !! |
The method I use was what most people used (I assume before the double ram method was discovered), which basically involved using Ram before Dash every single time to maximize speed. Using ram at the top of the bridge and dash and the beginning of the second speed keeps my speed above 80% throughout the beach stretch to where when I get the next recharge I use dash to get back to 100% right after gate 6. Quit QQ'ing please. I'm sorry there IS skill involved in this game. This rollerbeetle QQ'ing reminds me SO much of what Hero Battles was like before observer mode was implemented.
Kashrlyyk
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Doesn't seem like a bug to me, ram works differently than a skill stack because it's dynamic.
Ram will save your current RRPM and return to that amount when it ends. e.g. Starting RRPM 25%, use ram, 25% saved as a variable, ram finishes, load variable. Starting RRPM 25%, use ram, 25% saved as a variable, once you reach 100% before ram ends, use ram again, 100% is saved as the variable of your starting RRPM before the original variable had time to load, ram finishes, you return to 100% rrpm when the new variable amount is loaded. A simple fix to this "bug" would be to make sure that when you use ram a second time the original variable containing your RRPM is not replaced or is loaded first before increasing the speed to 100%. This way, no matter how many rams you used or echo'd, you'd always return to your original starting RRPM before the first ram was used. |
Nor
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I did not get any of my top 100 high scores without getting double ram. I didn't even know how to use double ram until that Sunday, but the thing is I didn't achieve any top 100 scores on Sunday...
The method I use was what most people used (I assume before the double ram method was discovered), which basically involved using Ram before Dash every single time to maximize speed. Using ram at the top of the bridge and dash and the beginning of the second speed keeps my speed above 80% throughout the beach stretch to where when I get the next recharge I use dash to get back to 100% right after gate 6. Quit QQ'ing please. I'm sorry there IS skill involved in this game. This rollerbeetle QQ'ing reminds me SO much of what Hero Battles was like before observer mode was implemented. |
good for you for getting it without bugs , but thats not the point you know.
and the observer mode made things more guarded so exploits in skills could get found easy its not a bad addition
Ekelon
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well your ok because u won a pet , but its not about QQ thing here its about the use of an exploit that made few people getting the price so its not fair , its against the rules ,etc...
good for you for getting it without bugs , but thats not the point you know. and the observer mode made things more guarded so exploits in skills could get found easy its not a bad addition |
Not sure if I explained that correctly but I hope you know what I mean.
Lain Akazukin
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What is wrong with some people? Lain Akazukin, you are ,close to, the most ignorant person I have met on a forum
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And please explain to me where I'm being wrong about something? I got all my top 100 scores without double ram, I know that for a fact because I was the one doing the racing. You don't have to believe me, but don't call me a liar if you can't back it up.
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Madbull2
Take this from someone who was a fraction of a second away from being in the top 100. Double ramming is not cheating, and I certainly don't blame anyone who used it for knocking me out of the top 100 (I do however blame there multiple entries in the top 100 for it, but that's Anet's fault) The facts are, everyone had an equal chance to figure out that trick, and that's all it is, a trick. It's not like it was a secret that could only be known by a select few. If they figured it out on their own, then it's no more cheating then having a set run path, or only hitting certain boxes to maximize time. It's all part of the game. If the double ram trick involved anything outside of that, which it doesn't, then yes, it would be "cheating" but it doesn't. If you guys want something to complain about, complain about the horrific way Anet went about deciding the "top 100 racers".
Martin Alvito
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The method I use was what most people used (I assume before the double ram method was discovered), which basically involved using Ram before Dash every single time to maximize speed.
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This method wasn't commonly known? I'm stunned. It doesn't make a huge difference, but it's good for a couple of seconds during your run. I suppose that's the difference between a fail 475+ and a succeed 477+ run at the margin, though.
EDIT: How were you throwing up 480+ runs without double ram last year? Those must have been some tight runs.
(Yes, I gather that by 'double ram' you mean double ramming the spiral. This is, in my judgment, misguided when playing echo/SRB. I'll test and compare during the next time the arena is open.)
Ekelon
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Dark and I were double ramming gate 4 and the last gate during the original weekend. I switched my start to double ramming gate 2 during the second weekend. Although I don't think I mentioned it to anyone, most of the old school top 100 players saw me run that start at one point or another. Not that I ever paid much attention to the mechanism behind the output; at gate 4 it's the most efficient solution to maintaining momentum, and it always seemed obvious to me that you should double ram the last hill regardless of the mechanics involved.
This method wasn't commonly known? I'm stunned. It doesn't make a huge difference, but it's good for a couple of seconds during your run. I suppose that's the difference between a fail 475+ and a succeed 477+ run at the margin, though. EDIT: How were you throwing up 480+ runs without double ram last year? Those must have been some tight runs. (Yes, I gather that by 'double ram' you mean double ramming the spiral. This is, in my judgment, misguided when playing echo/SRB. I'll test and compare during the next time the arena is open.) |
MoriaOrc
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Ram's observable effects (KD those around you and a speed boost to max for 2 seconds) are clearly different from it's skill description, and have been for the entirety of RBR.
Ekelon
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I agree, Ram's skill description doesn't mention a speed boost in any way, shape, or form. I guess everyone who ever used it for speed instead of KD is a damn dirty exploiter?[/sarcasm]
Ram's observable effects (KD those around you and a speed boost to max for 2 seconds) are clearly different from it's skill description, and have been for the entirety of RBR. |
TheHaxor
I can't believe this topic is still open.
Jesus christ, do you bitch about everything? I'm only asking because it's all I've ever seen you do. If you had been observing players like Martin, then you would have figured out the double ram thing. It's not like it was this great big secret.
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RhanoctJocosa
Haxor is a big fat cheater
Kashrlyyk
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... If you had been observing players like Martin, then you would have figured out the double ram thing. It's not like it was this great big secret.
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BTW are you saying that something is not an exploit, if everybody can do it? ANet disagrees with you, at least when it comes to PvE.
TheHaxor
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This doesn´t change that it is exploiting a skill not working as it should.
BTW are you saying that something is not an exploit, if everybody can do it? ANet disagrees with you, at least when it comes to PvE. |
If you want to bitch at someone, then bitch at them. Don't bitch at people who made the top100 because it isn't their fault that a game mechanic works the way it does.
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uberMithosCox
I can comment on that.
I bet Anet knew that right after they let the players start the races. Me myself have only been in ONE race where someone has used this bug/exploit getting 474k So it was NOT possible for EVERYONE to know this bug as I have been racing the WHOLE weekend. As of seeing the info of the bug was posted AFTER the weekend also.
@TheHaxor
The reason Anet did nothing about it IS b/c of the current event that was going on, If they changed it, it would mean they had to add another build of the game and people also were doing the event would not get their Golden title. Seeing "THIS" was the event that would make people get their max lucky title, Anet did NOTHING seeing how many people were afk on the rings Getting their title.
Now Gaile as other GW developers said that Anet Promises to try not to interfere with the players title or take their title away from them and seeing THIS was the event were it was possible to finally get max lucky title Anet did nothing, see if they did, it would cause a rollback OR p*ss off alot of the players seeing that Anet prevented them from getting the max title.
Me I am p*ssed about the beetleraces yes BUT I would not make a Million other players pissed about a title against a prize that NOT EVEN 100 was given out, and those who were given out, those players took advantage as they found out the bug themselfs.
This bug WILL be fixed next time as till then Ill race and race again till I finally get a mini beetle.
I bet Anet knew that right after they let the players start the races. Me myself have only been in ONE race where someone has used this bug/exploit getting 474k So it was NOT possible for EVERYONE to know this bug as I have been racing the WHOLE weekend. As of seeing the info of the bug was posted AFTER the weekend also.
@TheHaxor
The reason Anet did nothing about it IS b/c of the current event that was going on, If they changed it, it would mean they had to add another build of the game and people also were doing the event would not get their Golden title. Seeing "THIS" was the event that would make people get their max lucky title, Anet did NOTHING seeing how many people were afk on the rings Getting their title.
Now Gaile as other GW developers said that Anet Promises to try not to interfere with the players title or take their title away from them and seeing THIS was the event were it was possible to finally get max lucky title Anet did nothing, see if they did, it would cause a rollback OR p*ss off alot of the players seeing that Anet prevented them from getting the max title.
Me I am p*ssed about the beetleraces yes BUT I would not make a Million other players pissed about a title against a prize that NOT EVEN 100 was given out, and those who were given out, those players took advantage as they found out the bug themselfs.
This bug WILL be fixed next time as till then Ill race and race again till I finally get a mini beetle.
kev doppleganger
I did over 20 hours of rollerbeetle racing and my best score was 456k . Thats with a super boost and no obstructions from others , some people looking at scores obvously cheated and if i find out they get mini beetles there will be hell to pay .
RazorEdge
I'm just disappointed.. -_- But I knew there had to be an unknown trick to it.
uberMithosCox
Well Like I said not knowing the bug/exploit my highest score was about 460k by Cutting Corners EXTRA EXTRA HARD as maybe having a echo SRB without any other players knocking me down also speeding up hills.
Anet Now seeing this bug as the event being over, I hope they have a Redux for the race giving out mini's again during the next Boardwalk, Gamer weekend as of Dragon Festival, somewhere around this year.
Anet Now seeing this bug as the event being over, I hope they have a Redux for the race giving out mini's again during the next Boardwalk, Gamer weekend as of Dragon Festival, somewhere around this year.
Sword
the ram ram "ultra secret trick" will not get u anywhere near the top 100
theres alot more involved than simply using this trick + some luck with super/echo
alot of people knew about it by the last day and the top 100 was still held by the same people
you may be able to get 465-70 with alot of luck - but you flamers will never get the top 100 you think you might get simply using this one strategy
theres alot more involved than simply using this trick + some luck with super/echo
alot of people knew about it by the last day and the top 100 was still held by the same people
you may be able to get 465-70 with alot of luck - but you flamers will never get the top 100 you think you might get simply using this one strategy
beren kat jollie
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this is the code of the beetle build; maybe these cheaters know how to modify :d
P.D. Sword (I Use Placebo), the #91: Obecalp, and the #87 La Bopce, maybe are u?
And pls, stop to say these races are skill based; there are a bug/s somewhere and u know to use it.
Ah¡¡ Congratulations for ur unfair mini Beetle;
Really Anet cant do nothing about it?
this is the code of the beetle build; maybe these cheaters know how to modify :d
P.D. Sword (I Use Placebo), the #91: Obecalp, and the #87 La Bopce, maybe are u?
And pls, stop to say these races are skill based; there are a bug/s somewhere and u know to use it.
Ah¡¡ Congratulations for ur unfair mini Beetle;
Really Anet cant do nothing about it?
Xx_Sorin_xX
well..atleast it took past the first day for this to get rezzed..
moose_rider
hmm I just got 458k with 2 super beetles and very little interference so either the people getting 475k+ are getting 3 or more super beetles or something fishy is going on.
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Seriously, why did you bump this? No one cares about your crying.
Pleikki
C'mon dont revive old topics -.-
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Martin Alvito
And the crying continues in an old topic.
It's simple, folks. Powerups are random. Any individual race is significantly determined by luck.
In the long run, the luck factor averages out. Given enough runs, ALL players get the lucky powerup combination needed to attain a top score. Only the skilled players know what to do with them. It follows that the most skilled players will then dominate the top times, given several hours worth of runs.
It all has to do with when and where you trigger the speed buffs. There are other old topics that could help you get started. But if all you're here to do is QQ, you'll never expend the effort to look for them. Nor will you expend the effort to find ways to improve your time.
Could reference you to the "Fastest 'Elite' Area Times" thread in Riverside for a similar QQ-fest where people don't believe that the "impossible" can be done legitimately.
Change your attitudes, people! If you believe it can't be done, you're going to fail.
At everything you ever do in life.
Until you die.
Poor way to live, as I see it.
It's simple, folks. Powerups are random. Any individual race is significantly determined by luck.
In the long run, the luck factor averages out. Given enough runs, ALL players get the lucky powerup combination needed to attain a top score. Only the skilled players know what to do with them. It follows that the most skilled players will then dominate the top times, given several hours worth of runs.
It all has to do with when and where you trigger the speed buffs. There are other old topics that could help you get started. But if all you're here to do is QQ, you'll never expend the effort to look for them. Nor will you expend the effort to find ways to improve your time.
Could reference you to the "Fastest 'Elite' Area Times" thread in Riverside for a similar QQ-fest where people don't believe that the "impossible" can be done legitimately.
Change your attitudes, people! If you believe it can't be done, you're going to fail.
At everything you ever do in life.
Until you die.
Poor way to live, as I see it.
Hell Raiser
It always seems to be this way, those with the time to spend learning every trick, and just when to use speed-ups, will get top scores and not share their strategy. I don't mind, 'cause I don't have the time or patience to spend hours trying to get the right combo even if I knew the secrets. I raced with someone who got 477,000+, he was far ahead of everyone before he even hit the first box.
Is there any thread where a top player explains how they do it? I've noticed a lot of them just say it takes skill to know when to use what, but wont say anything about it (I guess if I got such high scores, or spent all of my time practicing, I wouldn't share my strategy either, would just add more competition).
EDIT: My best score is 462,000+, the only thing I've noticed that helps me is Dash+Dash(+Dash)+Ram (Few seconds in between each), and I don't pull ahead early, that just gets me knocked down a lot.
Is there any thread where a top player explains how they do it? I've noticed a lot of them just say it takes skill to know when to use what, but wont say anything about it (I guess if I got such high scores, or spent all of my time practicing, I wouldn't share my strategy either, would just add more competition).
EDIT: My best score is 462,000+, the only thing I've noticed that helps me is Dash+Dash(+Dash)+Ram (Few seconds in between each), and I don't pull ahead early, that just gets me knocked down a lot.
therangereminem
i love this thread, lol how icant be on top is wonders i have under 100ms ping on average, i dont score higher then 155k and that with 2 echo supers, from frist 4 boxes, being perfect no goign through water or anything of the sort,
but i dod belive some cheat, i had 1 race with the top guy once, was a very very fishing race ,
went as follows all but 1 loaded time r hit 0 every starts as norm,
then guy loads about 30 sec or so it says 30 sec to finish
ad that guy finished the race never saw his beetle once, or noticed everyonein group was wtf, all he said was takes skill
there somethign there doing to skip when they load , to load in a part of race when they want too, no skill other then hacking
but i dod belive some cheat, i had 1 race with the top guy once, was a very very fishing race ,
went as follows all but 1 loaded time r hit 0 every starts as norm,
then guy loads about 30 sec or so it says 30 sec to finish
ad that guy finished the race never saw his beetle once, or noticed everyonein group was wtf, all he said was takes skill
there somethign there doing to skip when they load , to load in a part of race when they want too, no skill other then hacking
shru
Let me provide an example to show you guys how silly your argument is. Take a look at this. (Old school gamers might understand me a little better, but if you've never heard of Gn'G, scroll down and read the comments)
Now you could claim he's cheating somehow, but it's more likely that he just knows every little instance down to a heart beat, and that he's figured out and memorized every perfect timing by repeatedly obsessing over it for a long period of time. And he's undoubtedly practiced and most likely took a few tries to obtain this perfectly sustained run.
Now I'd like to see you try to beat a game like that on your first run through. Of course you can't, because you haven't put in the time or thought that these people have since the first day roller beetle races came out.
To claim they're cheating is not only wrong, but it's an insult to the skill of these people who have perfected roller beetle racing. And there's plenty of evidence to prove that they have done just that. They shouldn't have to be forced to show you the perfect run when they figured it out for themselves just because you claim it can't be done (a claim backed up on the basis that you yourself can't get a time like that, so nobody else could possibly be able to).
Quit QQ'ing and ressing old threads, these myths have been put to rest many-a-times. Go practise beetle racing instead of crying that you can't get these times, atleast you'll be more productive.
Now you could claim he's cheating somehow, but it's more likely that he just knows every little instance down to a heart beat, and that he's figured out and memorized every perfect timing by repeatedly obsessing over it for a long period of time. And he's undoubtedly practiced and most likely took a few tries to obtain this perfectly sustained run.
Now I'd like to see you try to beat a game like that on your first run through. Of course you can't, because you haven't put in the time or thought that these people have since the first day roller beetle races came out.
To claim they're cheating is not only wrong, but it's an insult to the skill of these people who have perfected roller beetle racing. And there's plenty of evidence to prove that they have done just that. They shouldn't have to be forced to show you the perfect run when they figured it out for themselves just because you claim it can't be done (a claim backed up on the basis that you yourself can't get a time like that, so nobody else could possibly be able to).
Quit QQ'ing and ressing old threads, these myths have been put to rest many-a-times. Go practise beetle racing instead of crying that you can't get these times, atleast you'll be more productive.