Update - Friday, February 15, 2008

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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15 Feb 2008 at 23:27 - 1
Update - Friday, February 15, 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by GuildWarsWiki
Guild Battles

“Victory is Ours”: decreased damage to 10%.

Skill Updates

Dervish
[wiki]Pious Haste[/wiki]: decreased duration to 3..12 seconds.

Elementalist
[wiki]Flame Djinn's Haste[/wiki]: decreased movement speed increase to 25%.
[wiki]Storm Djinn's Haste[/wiki]: decreased movement speed increase to 25%.

Mesmer
[wiki]Enchanter's Conundrum[/wiki]: increased casting time to 2 seconds.
[wiki]Power Leak[/wiki]: increased Energy lost to 5..20; increased recharge time to 20 seconds.

Ritualist
[wiki]Death Pact Signet[/wiki]: increased casting time to 3 seconds; increased recharge time to 12 seconds.
Discuss

Great Scoot

Great Scoot

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Chicago

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/E

15 Feb 2008 at 23:28 - 2
that was fast

Big_Daddy

Big_Daddy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Big Daddy Experience [BigD]

N/Mo

15 Feb 2008 at 23:28 - 3
WTF with Death Pact Sig? It was great the way it was!

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

15 Feb 2008 at 23:29 - 4
Like the death pact change, it was a bit too powerful. Good to see power leak removing some decent energy too. Wonder how those ele changes will effect flaggers...

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&#

N/E

15 Feb 2008 at 23:29 - 5
Death Pact. =[ Still good, but =[.
Glad they brought back pleak though.

Serenity Divinity

Serenity Divinity

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

E/

15 Feb 2008 at 23:30 - 6
Whats the reasoning behind them lowering of the ele's speed spells? Oo

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

15 Feb 2008 at 23:30 - 7
I didn't see anything wrong with Death Pact... the downside I thought was even enough with the fast recharge and 2 sec cast time... Oh well, will still work in PvE.

take_me

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

15 Feb 2008 at 23:31 - 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenity Divinity
Whats the reasoning behind them lowering of the ele's speed spells? Oo
Raptor Farming? The standard Ele-build is not working anymore

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

15 Feb 2008 at 23:32 - 9
What's the point of Enchanter's Conundrum change? Of all of them listed, it just seems rather odd.

Mickey

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

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15 Feb 2008 at 23:34 - 10
Really mediocre update.

Death Pact Signet = (
Ele Speed Boosts = (

Pious Haste, not really a big deal tbh. I always thought it should be limited to Dervish only.

Just, meh, not really that great, mostly just like, why did the skill need it?

argh

argh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

15 Feb 2008 at 23:34 - 11
Enchanter's was way overpowered =(

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

15 Feb 2008 at 23:35 - 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
What's the point of Enchanter's Conundrum change? Of all of them listed, it just seems rather odd.
It was too effective against Wammos.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

15 Feb 2008 at 23:35 - 13
Cool.
'Nuff said!
<3 The PLeak buffs and the speed buff nerfs.
Enchanter's Conundrum is still sweet!
DPSig is still sweet aswell ;o

Captain Miken

Captain Miken

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

15 Feb 2008 at 23:36 - 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
What's the point of Enchanter's Conundrum change? Of all of them listed, it just seems rather odd.


Ench Conundrum spike in low end PvP maybe... although this change won't stop it.

Trevor The Wave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

This Is Ukraine [UA]

E/Me

15 Feb 2008 at 23:36 - 15
aww...the raptor farm got nerfed .

yay for /A flag runners!

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

15 Feb 2008 at 23:38 - 16
Blargh at DPSig >_<... loved it for its quick recharge. I'll deal with it, but 3-second cast might be overkill >_>. Glad they brought PLeak back though x].

DeBron

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

15 Feb 2008 at 23:38 - 17
DPS . . . boo!

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

15 Feb 2008 at 23:40 - 18
Bye Bye E/a A/e Raptor Farming Lol

Kiragi Yagami

Kiragi Yagami

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Elician Mercinaries [eLm] Leader.

E/Me

15 Feb 2008 at 23:46 - 19
i logged on, saw there was an update, and went to wiki to see the changes. apparently some asshole decided to put "Healing Signet - decreased casting time to 1/4 second, decreased recharge to 1 second. now heals for 500 health." in this update notes. had me worried for a second :P

Croco Clouds

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

15 Feb 2008 at 23:46 - 20
My raptors... totally owned

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

15 Feb 2008 at 23:48 - 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by take_me
Raptor Farming? The standard Ele-build is not working anymore
Use Mindbender instead. I think it was more of a PvP-oriented patch although those running debuffs are a nuisance in PvE.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Feb 2008 at 23:49 - 22
Raptor farming was bound to get hit in the end. Good people will over come it. The PVX wiki people will sit and wait until someone makes a new build.

Burning Blade

Burning Blade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Syag

15 Feb 2008 at 23:49 - 23
I see this on http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Game_updates

Quote:
Warrior
Healing Signet: decreased casting time to 1/4 seconds; decreased recharge time to 1 second. Now heals for 500 health.
is it true because it's on there on the OP. If its true, warrior is truely a tank and do hefty damage now

EDITED: just check with my warrior. It's still the same. Whoever posted the updates on gw.gamewikis.org needs to be shot. It made me so excited

buzzerman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

15 Feb 2008 at 23:49 - 24
Why nerf Ele's staple running enchants NOW, after so long ?!

I've always thought some of these belated skill nerfs are so retarded as if some developer suddenly got pissed off because someone used those skills against his/her current build in an occasional PvP match -- so he decided to nerf them just out of spite..
For example, in this particular case, I can imagine a dev (or Izzy, whatever, someone with a say in skill updates) opening up GW (after a few months of staying out of GW playing his favorite FPS or whatever), loading a wamo build and getting into a PvP match, and, say, getting nervous trying to gank an Ele who's kiting using one of these running skills: "Whoa, this Ele is so annoying running from me like that.. what skill is he using to make a fool out of my Enraging Charge ?!? Ah, Storm's Djinn's Haste.. I've got to nerf that!! You're never gonna mock me like that from now on, mister! "

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

15 Feb 2008 at 23:50 - 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenity Divinity
Whats the reasoning behind them lowering of the ele's speed spells? Oo
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact they were long lasting 33% running that could be kept up constantly without any major drawback, not balatently overpowered in anyway at all.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

15 Feb 2008 at 23:52 - 26
People actually used Enchanter's Conundrum?

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

15 Feb 2008 at 23:53 - 27
Its official, anet is on crack,

They should have kept both ele skills at 33%,

Pious Haste should have been kept as is, but alterd to "50% chance to fail with 4 mysticism or less)

Death Pact signet was BRILLIANT as it was

on a side note, why is anet changing skills that are fine as is, when there are many other broken skills/skill stacking combos...?

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

15 Feb 2008 at 23:53 - 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzerman
Why nerf Ele's staple running enchants NOW, after so long ?!
... to you, and to everyone else asking 'why?'

Have a read of this... it should answer your questions.

rawr

Very good post, that.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

15 Feb 2008 at 23:55 - 29
Hrmm. Power Leak actually leaks some fair power now!

Of course, since I got Power Spike, I stopped using that. Though now I may have reason to use it.

Then again, doesn't it seem like enemy AI has seemingly infinite energy (unlike the henchies :P )?

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

15 Feb 2008 at 23:55 - 30
People who don't gvg/obs gvg won't understand these updates =\

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

15 Feb 2008 at 23:57 - 31
Echanters=bye bye noobspike

djinns=bye bye raptors, uh-oh flaggers

pious=no more super stance

pleak=back to badass

dps=still sweet in my book

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

15 Feb 2008 at 23:57 - 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyon456
on a side note, why is anet changing skills that are fine as is, when there are many other broken skills/skill stacking combos...?
Because they aren't.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

15 Feb 2008 at 23:58 - 33
I am so confused at why people are complaining about the Ele speed buffs affecting Raptor farming? Was it really that vital to the "build?" I never used it in my builds, but then again, I made my own instead of copying it from anywhere. Of course, I'm no 'professional farmer,' only did the run a few times to make some extra dough, but it worked fine.

So seriously, what's the issue here?

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

15 Feb 2008 at 23:58 - 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
People actually used Enchanter's Conundrum?
Erm yes actually, it has been used in GvG recently I believe. 2 seconds is hardly a nerf when you think about it, fast castin' and 40/40 sets and all that, but I guess it makes it a bit easier for a good interrupter to overcome.

Quote:
Its official, anet is on crack,

They should have kept both ele skills at 33%,

Pious Haste should have been kept as is, but alterd to "50% chance to fail with 4 mysticism or less)

Death Pact signet was BRILLIANT as it was

on a side note, why is anet changing skills that are fine as is, when there are many other broken skills/skill stacking combos...?
And this is why the average PvEr should not be allowed to have a say in skill balances, no offence.

/activate Flame shield

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

15 Feb 2008 at 23:59 - 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
I am so confused at why people are complaining about the Ele speed buffs affecting Raptor farming? Was it really that vital to the "build?" I never used it in my builds, but then again, I made my own instead of copying it from anywhere. Of course, I'm no 'professional farmer,' only did the run a few times to make some extra dough, but it worked fine.

So seriously, what's the issue here?
You can't outrun the raptors anymore, so basically they own you before you can aggro them all.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

15 Feb 2008 at 23:59 - 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuuda
Erm yes actually, it has been used in GvG recently I believe. 2 seconds is hardly a nerf when you think about it, fast castin' and 40/40 sets and all that, but I guess it makes it a bit easier for a good interrupter to overcome.
Yeah, they need a good d-shotting....

Van Goghs Ear

Van Goghs Ear

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

GvG go go!

Fail Less [noU]

R/Mo

16 Feb 2008 at 00:00 - 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
People actually used Enchanter's Conundrum?
yep, balth temple is for more than just buying Zkeys, people PvP on that island too, which is where EC plus shatter delusions was/is used considerably.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

16 Feb 2008 at 00:03 - 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevor The Wave
aww...the raptor farm got nerfed .

yay for /A flag runners!
Shhh...before they nerf some of my favorite assassin running skills... ;(

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

16 Feb 2008 at 00:04 - 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by blurmedia
You can't outrun the raptors anymore, so basically they own you before you can aggro them all.
What? They don't own you if they do no damage. No need to outrun them, just slowly gather them all with enough protection. Speed buff is a waste of a skill slot, IMO. And yes, I am talking about HM.

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

16 Feb 2008 at 00:07 - 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by blurmedia
Bye Bye E/a A/e Raptor Farming Lol
oO u need flame haste to farm raptors?