Update - Friday, February 15, 2008

Use Mindbender instead. I think it was more of a PvP-oriented patch although those running debuffs are a nuisance in PvE.

Raptor farming was bound to get hit in the end. Good people will over come it. The PVX wiki people will sit and wait until someone makes a new build.

I see this on http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Game_updates

is it true because it's on there on the OP. If its true, warrior is truely a tank and do hefty damage now

EDITED: just check with my warrior. It's still the same. Whoever posted the updates on gw.gamewikis.org needs to be shot. It made me so excited

Why nerf Ele's staple running enchants NOW, after so long ?!

I've always thought some of these belated skill nerfs are so retarded as if some developer suddenly got pissed off because someone used those skills against his/her current build in an occasional PvP match -- so he decided to nerf them just out of spite..
For example, in this particular case, I can imagine a dev (or Izzy, whatever, someone with a say in skill updates) opening up GW (after a few months of staying out of GW playing his favorite FPS or whatever), loading a wamo build and getting into a PvP match, and, say, getting nervous trying to gank an Ele who's kiting using one of these running skills: "Whoa, this Ele is so annoying running from me like that.. what skill is he using to make a fool out of my Enraging Charge ?!? Ah, Storm's Djinn's Haste.. I've got to nerf that!! You're never gonna mock me like that from now on, mister! "

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact they were long lasting 33% running that could be kept up constantly without any major drawback, not balatently overpowered in anyway at all.

People actually used Enchanter's Conundrum?

Its official, anet is on crack,

They should have kept both ele skills at 33%,

Pious Haste should have been kept as is, but alterd to "50% chance to fail with 4 mysticism or less)

Death Pact signet was BRILLIANT as it was

on a side note, why is anet changing skills that are fine as is, when there are many other broken skills/skill stacking combos...?

... to you, and to everyone else asking 'why?'

Have a read of this... it should answer your questions.

rawr

Very good post, that.

Hrmm. Power Leak actually leaks some fair power now!

Of course, since I got Power Spike, I stopped using that. Though now I may have reason to use it.

Then again, doesn't it seem like enemy AI has seemingly infinite energy (unlike the henchies :P )?

People who don't gvg/obs gvg won't understand these updates =\

Echanters=bye bye noobspike

djinns=bye bye raptors, uh-oh flaggers

pious=no more super stance

pleak=back to badass

dps=still sweet in my book

Because they aren't.

I am so confused at why people are complaining about the Ele speed buffs affecting Raptor farming? Was it really that vital to the "build?" I never used it in my builds, but then again, I made my own instead of copying it from anywhere. Of course, I'm no 'professional farmer,' only did the run a few times to make some extra dough, but it worked fine.

So seriously, what's the issue here?

Erm yes actually, it has been used in GvG recently I believe. 2 seconds is hardly a nerf when you think about it, fast castin' and 40/40 sets and all that, but I guess it makes it a bit easier for a good interrupter to overcome.

And this is why the average PvEr should not be allowed to have a say in skill balances, no offence.

/activate Flame shield

You can't outrun the raptors anymore, so basically they own you before you can aggro them all.

Yeah, they need a good d-shotting....

yep, balth temple is for more than just buying Zkeys, people PvP on that island too, which is where EC plus shatter delusions was/is used considerably.

Shhh...before they nerf some of my favorite assassin running skills... ;(

What? They don't own you if they do no damage. No need to outrun them, just slowly gather them all with enough protection. Speed buff is a waste of a skill slot, IMO. And yes, I am talking about HM.

oO u need flame haste to farm raptors?