So, how old do you think someone should be to play this game?
Cebe
Old enough to be able to read skill descriptions, understand what they do, and understand how skills work together.
gremlin
You cannot put people into age groups age is often irrelevant, if you can comprehend the game and know how to behave in polite society then by all means play.
I have seen kids who appear well beyond their actual age in attitude and often met much older people who act like kids.
As for myself I am 57 and although my joints creak in the mornings and what hair I have on my head is grey and have all the other life changes age brings I have never love my love of games or I hope my sense of fun.
The only real difference between a 20 year old and an 80 year old is how other people see them and no I havn't entered my second childhood I havnt finished with the first one yet.
I have seen kids who appear well beyond their actual age in attitude and often met much older people who act like kids.
As for myself I am 57 and although my joints creak in the mornings and what hair I have on my head is grey and have all the other life changes age brings I have never love my love of games or I hope my sense of fun.
The only real difference between a 20 year old and an 80 year old is how other people see them and no I havn't entered my second childhood I havnt finished with the first one yet.
quickmonty
How about:
Old enough to read and understand the EULA, and abide by it.
Old enough to read and understand the EULA, and abide by it.
mrvrod
There's a lot of talk about maturity and when it starts. Plain and simple fact is the eula states you must be 18+ to play. I know this isn't followed (not even in my house), but all other numbers are basically meaningless.
TheRaven
The box says 13+ and I think that's a good limit. In any MMO community there will be predators that are trying to find young kids that can be preyed upon. These could be dangerous Pedophiles or just your average run-of-the-mill scammer.
Most of us are smart enough to ignore the guy spamming "free Eye of the North access keys - 50K!!!!!!!!!" in Kamadan. Your average 10 year old isn't. He's thinking: "Wow! mom won't buy it, this is awesome. I can play EotN now!"
Even at 13, most kids aren't mature enough to fit into a mainly 18+ community. We have a couple of 13-14 year old kids in our alliance and they are a major pain in the butt. Any time they're online, they are begging for free stuff, begging for runs, begging for power leveling, getting on teamspeak and asking 50 gazillion questions and just trying to go along on any alliance mission they can. Even if they aren't qualified. About half of the alliance has them on ignore now. I've tried to talk to them and ask them to tone it down a bit, but really they just aren't mature enough yet to understand.
I think it all boils down to parental supervision. A 10 or 11 year old can play this game and have a lot of fun if their parents take time to supervise. The parent can steer them into a safe guild, especially if the parent plays as well and includes the kid in their own guild. The parent can set them up in town with heroes and henchies and monitor their child to make sure they aren't being a pest and haven't fallen in with "the wrong crowd". Same rules apply to any online chat community.
Most of us are smart enough to ignore the guy spamming "free Eye of the North access keys - 50K!!!!!!!!!" in Kamadan. Your average 10 year old isn't. He's thinking: "Wow! mom won't buy it, this is awesome. I can play EotN now!"
Even at 13, most kids aren't mature enough to fit into a mainly 18+ community. We have a couple of 13-14 year old kids in our alliance and they are a major pain in the butt. Any time they're online, they are begging for free stuff, begging for runs, begging for power leveling, getting on teamspeak and asking 50 gazillion questions and just trying to go along on any alliance mission they can. Even if they aren't qualified. About half of the alliance has them on ignore now. I've tried to talk to them and ask them to tone it down a bit, but really they just aren't mature enough yet to understand.
I think it all boils down to parental supervision. A 10 or 11 year old can play this game and have a lot of fun if their parents take time to supervise. The parent can steer them into a safe guild, especially if the parent plays as well and includes the kid in their own guild. The parent can set them up in town with heroes and henchies and monitor their child to make sure they aren't being a pest and haven't fallen in with "the wrong crowd". Same rules apply to any online chat community.
Eldin
This "13-15 = craziness" concept is very shortsighted.
If anything, everyone who's posted here whose age is in the younger group, it's in 13-15.
As posted above, there's a huge difference between a 13 year old and a 15 year old. I'm 14, but approaching 15, for the sake of this comparison let's call me 15.
My brother who is 12, approaching 13 (again let's say he's 13 for now) likes to ask stupid and random questions (that aren't always rhetorical). He has an incredibly unstable GPA that rages wildly - he gets A's when he wants to, other times he forgets his math test has a second page and gets a D. I have to correct all his typed essays as he's too stupid to use MSWord's spell and grammar checking.
It varies from person to person, anybody here who has some stereotype of a certain age, it is surely from past experience as all stereotypes usually originate from.
Also, maturity doesn't have to equal intelligent mannerisms and good typing, as long as they are goodhearted. I once played a MMORPG, one of the friends I knew was 10 years old. Now, I admit he typed the standard way, with "u" and "r" and all those other things we hate so much. However, he was always kind and helpful and whenever he messed up (and admittedly he wasn't that good at the game) he openly admitted it was his fault and he will try better next time.
He has the makings of a future GW player.
If anything, everyone who's posted here whose age is in the younger group, it's in 13-15.
As posted above, there's a huge difference between a 13 year old and a 15 year old. I'm 14, but approaching 15, for the sake of this comparison let's call me 15.
My brother who is 12, approaching 13 (again let's say he's 13 for now) likes to ask stupid and random questions (that aren't always rhetorical). He has an incredibly unstable GPA that rages wildly - he gets A's when he wants to, other times he forgets his math test has a second page and gets a D. I have to correct all his typed essays as he's too stupid to use MSWord's spell and grammar checking.
It varies from person to person, anybody here who has some stereotype of a certain age, it is surely from past experience as all stereotypes usually originate from.
Also, maturity doesn't have to equal intelligent mannerisms and good typing, as long as they are goodhearted. I once played a MMORPG, one of the friends I knew was 10 years old. Now, I admit he typed the standard way, with "u" and "r" and all those other things we hate so much. However, he was always kind and helpful and whenever he messed up (and admittedly he wasn't that good at the game) he openly admitted it was his fault and he will try better next time.
He has the makings of a future GW player.
neighto
My fiance and I are both 30. We both play this game and enjoy it. Yes both of us are "older" but you have to keep in mind.. we grew up with atari 2800's, vic 20's (remember the cassette drives?.. they need to bring those back lmao), commodores, nintendo's etc etc.. For most of our generation, gaming has always been a "past time" and we have followed it from its roots, to what it has become. I myself play games for entertainment... I dont drink, I dont party, I have a life outside of the game.. I just prefer to stay at home with my family.. as that is what my main priority is in my life. This game is something that we can all do "together!" remember board games? something families use to play together when I was a kid? Well this is sort of the board game of the 2000's for us (and yes we still play monopoly, cards etc together still)
My fiance has a 13 year old son. He plays GW as well. Mind you we dont let him play with out at least one of us on at the same time. We dont question his maturity.. but wish to limit his exposure to some of "your" maturity.. or lack there of. Yes, he's a 13 year old kid... and makes random comments like "i like pie" etc, that being said, he knows limits and when it is or is not appropriate to say stuff like that. Not one person in our guild has a problem with him or his maturity... and are more then willing to help him if he asks for assistance with missions etc (keep in mind, he rarely asks for help.. as he would rather learn the game himself.. over asking for help)
My fiance has a 13 year old son. He plays GW as well. Mind you we dont let him play with out at least one of us on at the same time. We dont question his maturity.. but wish to limit his exposure to some of "your" maturity.. or lack there of. Yes, he's a 13 year old kid... and makes random comments like "i like pie" etc, that being said, he knows limits and when it is or is not appropriate to say stuff like that. Not one person in our guild has a problem with him or his maturity... and are more then willing to help him if he asks for assistance with missions etc (keep in mind, he rarely asks for help.. as he would rather learn the game himself.. over asking for help)
Rocky Raccoon
I recruit people for my guild saying "looking for older people" mainly because most of our guild is 20+ years old. This does not mean I won't recruit a younger player, but it lets me start a discussion with people who ask me what do you mean by older. Yesterday I received such a reply from someone, I told him I was looking for older players mainly to fit the current group of players. He said he was interested in the guild but didn't make the age limit. He then asked me if I micro-managed the guild. I told him no that we just are group who play and have a good time together. He then told me he was only 12. I had to afk for a while and when I came back he PMed me and asked if he could join our guild. I figured any 12 year old that asked pertinent questions deserved a chance, so I invited him, we will see if I made the correct decision down the road. So to the OP physical age has nothing to do with maturity as many older plays prove everyday.
izzywish
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There's a lot of talk about maturity and when it starts. Plain and simple fact is the eula states you must be 18+ to play. I know this isn't followed (not even in my house), but all other numbers are basically meaningless.
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Kayelyyb
I have a guy in my guild who is 14, he has let his 5 yr old bro have a slot. his little bro doesn't interact with others he just follows quest with the help of his bro or their mom who watches as he plays or he prolly just kills stuff if alone.
i have no problem with it if his mom doesn't care.
i have no problem with it if his mom doesn't care.
Tom Swift
Agree with TheRaven
What worries me is not how the kids handle the mechanics of the game but that children under age 12 have a very hard time conceiving that the person behind the character may be completely different than the toon they are playing - regardless of the child's maturity level. Their brains simply have not formed the conceptual abilities they need for abstract thought - including separating fantasy from reality.
One of my chars is a gray haired lady (I am definitely not). Recently I was helping a couple of players through the early stages of the game and they both told me their age. One was 8 and the other was 10. In spite of the fact I kept reminding them that they should not reveal information about themselves online and that they did not know who they might be playing with, they told me and each other what state they lived in, about their school, friends, and siblings. It scared me that they continued doing this even though I repeatedly told them not to. After I finished and logged off, I realized they were thinking of me as a little gray haired old lady no matter what I told them. Frankly, if I had wanted to I could probably have gotten their hometowns and first names.
There are predators online and that incident showed me how easy it would be for a molester to manipulate a child into giving private information. My kids are grown but if I had young children now, I think I would not let them play any online game until age 13 and from 13-15 I would probably monitor them very closely.
It's a scary world and these games, as good as the game itself may be, are no place for kids.
What worries me is not how the kids handle the mechanics of the game but that children under age 12 have a very hard time conceiving that the person behind the character may be completely different than the toon they are playing - regardless of the child's maturity level. Their brains simply have not formed the conceptual abilities they need for abstract thought - including separating fantasy from reality.
One of my chars is a gray haired lady (I am definitely not). Recently I was helping a couple of players through the early stages of the game and they both told me their age. One was 8 and the other was 10. In spite of the fact I kept reminding them that they should not reveal information about themselves online and that they did not know who they might be playing with, they told me and each other what state they lived in, about their school, friends, and siblings. It scared me that they continued doing this even though I repeatedly told them not to. After I finished and logged off, I realized they were thinking of me as a little gray haired old lady no matter what I told them. Frankly, if I had wanted to I could probably have gotten their hometowns and first names.
There are predators online and that incident showed me how easy it would be for a molester to manipulate a child into giving private information. My kids are grown but if I had young children now, I think I would not let them play any online game until age 13 and from 13-15 I would probably monitor them very closely.
It's a scary world and these games, as good as the game itself may be, are no place for kids.
FeroxC
lol, some of you need to stop kidding yourselves. Obviously there is going to be a positive correlation between age and maturity. Sure, there will be exceptions, and this is a good reason why members of any age should be given a chance before being dismissed.
Taurucis
I started playing Guild Wars at 12. I was pretty much your "Fresh off of Runescape" kid, using the "y r u doin that" kind of language and begging for help. I thought that everyone on Guild Wars was nice, would always help you out... boy was I wrong.
When I was 13 there was this jerk that pretty much sold my entire guild out (he got an offer like "Kick out all the pve scrubs in your guild, and you get a spot in the core team of my r9+ hardcore pvp guild" and he did) That was basically when I matured, realized that the world wasn't a rosy place, and "adopted" the personality of the best GW role model I had - the leader of that guild, who quit shortly after the jerk busted his guild up. I went from an emo, rude 13 year old to a laid-back, humorous person whose age you couldn't tell from the way I acted.
One little quirk I noticed about my guild, everyone seems to act a few years older than they actually are.
Like it's been said many times - Maturity matters, not age.
When I was 13 there was this jerk that pretty much sold my entire guild out (he got an offer like "Kick out all the pve scrubs in your guild, and you get a spot in the core team of my r9+ hardcore pvp guild" and he did) That was basically when I matured, realized that the world wasn't a rosy place, and "adopted" the personality of the best GW role model I had - the leader of that guild, who quit shortly after the jerk busted his guild up. I went from an emo, rude 13 year old to a laid-back, humorous person whose age you couldn't tell from the way I acted.
One little quirk I noticed about my guild, everyone seems to act a few years older than they actually are.
Like it's been said many times - Maturity matters, not age.
obastable
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My fiance and I are both 30. We both play this game and enjoy it. Yes both of us are "older" but you have to keep in mind.. we grew up with atari 2800's, vic 20's (remember the cassette drives?.. they need to bring those back lmao), commodores, nintendo's etc etc.. For most of our generation, gaming has always been a "past time" and we have followed it from its roots, to what it has become.
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I've had a computer of some form since 1980, starting with the Commodore PET. I've also had a Commodore Vic-20, Commodore 64 (first comp. I went on the "internet" with in 1985), Amiga, IBM PC / XT / Portable / PC Jr / and a few others, Pentium 1, 2, 3, 4, & now a dual core (haven't gone quad core ... yet). For the record, I still have quite a few of those old computers.
For the younger people here computers are a normal phenomenon, about as common in most households today as a toaster. When I was a kid they were an incredible new technology that fascinated & captured the imagination of my generation. They were the "future" as advertisements often said.
The technology from these new personal computers went a step beyond heavy systems for word processing and number crunching - they evolved into video game consoles. Personally, I think this was to keep us kids from messing around and screwing up our parents expensive toys, but who am I to complain? I have an Atari, Coleco, Sega Master System / Genesis / Saturn, Nintendo / SNeS / N64 / Gamecube / Wii, Playstation / PS2, Xbox / 360, and a 3DO.
Given my own history with computers & gaming in general it stands to reason that my 13 year old son would pick up on it, and I'm certainly not going to stop him - computers were the future 30 years ago, are a major part of todays society, and will continue to be a influential factor in the decades to come.
I'm not a video game junkie, or a computer junkie, or a nerd. I collect, tinker, and play with these things as other collectors do with model cars, baseball cards, antiques, stamps, coins, toys, etc., etc., and so on.
This is my hobby; nothing more, nothing less. I work full time, go to College part time, have a great family, and wonderful friends.
I count myself lucky that my family & friends can participate in and take pleasure from my favourite hobby & past time. Call me an "old" nerd if you want, but I'll just call myself one damn lucky woman.
Alex Morningstar
Old enough to read and understand the EULA.
Old enough to buy a T-rated game from the store. (I personally believe online games should be rated M, but that's just me so I wouldn't force that on others.)
Yeah, sometimes younger kids are mature. I have quite a few 16 year olds in my 20-30 somethings guild, but that's because they are the mature ones. But out of 40 20-30 somethings, there are maybe five 16 year olds.
There is a correlation between age and maturity, but it isn't a hard and fast rule.
Old enough to buy a T-rated game from the store. (I personally believe online games should be rated M, but that's just me so I wouldn't force that on others.)
Yeah, sometimes younger kids are mature. I have quite a few 16 year olds in my 20-30 somethings guild, but that's because they are the mature ones. But out of 40 20-30 somethings, there are maybe five 16 year olds.
There is a correlation between age and maturity, but it isn't a hard and fast rule.
genofreek
I was gonna say 20 just to lower the odds that I'll have to PUG with any more of those Runescape kiddies Taurucis was describing, but then I've pugged with people well into adulthood who were complete jackasses. :P It really just depends on the person. I give everyone a fair chance, but I've been playing for awhile and my tolerance for asshattery is pretty low. If someone's going to be rude, I'm going to find another team. Simple as that.
My nephew plays RS and he's always proud of his griefing/scamming. It's painful. I hope when he reaches puberty he'll realize how annoying that is.
My nephew plays RS and he's always proud of his griefing/scamming. It's painful. I hope when he reaches puberty he'll realize how annoying that is.
TheRaven
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There are predators online and that incident showed me how easy it would be for a molester to manipulate a child into giving private information. My kids are grown but if I had young children now, I think I would not let them play any online game until age 13 and from 13-15 I would probably monitor them very closely.
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Yes, this is exactly why Guild Wars, or any other online game, is not appropiate for young children. There is a 16-17 year old boy in my guild. We chat sometimes and he is careful about not giving out personal info, however he has still told me enough info that I could show up at his house tomorrow. Luckily, I have no interest in driving to his house. (Yes, he happens to be close enough to drive there)
I know his first name.
He has openly told us which state he lives in.
He says we don't know which city he's in so he's safe. However I do know which city. He took driver's ed at his school this year and commented once that his driving instructor "drove thru the streets of <insert city here> like a maniac!"
I know where he works. (Chick-Fil-A)
I roughly know his work schedule, because he'll be playing and then comment that he has to log out and go to work.
I know the classes he's taking and his teacher's personalities, because these are the types of things kids talk about.
I don't know how many Chick-Fil-A's there are in his city, but I'm guessing there's no more than 10-15 at the most. I could call each one and ask if <kid's name> is working now until I found the right one.
This is a 17 year old that is savvy enough not to give out personal info on the internet. However he trusts his guildmates and even though he won't tell us any personal info, he still chats freely. A younger child would be even more trusting and could be easily pressured into revealing info that a predator could use against them. Either to find them in real life or just to hack and steal their accounts.
The one thing that parents need to learn is that a child does not have to reveal their full name and address in order for someone to find them. Most people will reveal which state they are in with no fear. After all, it's a big state.....But if you add a school team mascot name or a teacher's name or casually mention that your parents are celebrating their anniversary tonight at a fancy restaurant and you have the computer to yourself then you've opened up the possibility of someone showing up at your house that you don't want to meet.
Xx_Sorin_xX
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so tends to attract the older crowd anyway, because they're (on average) just plain better at thinking things through.
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kids will almost always be better than adults at video games. kids grew up with them, they understand basic gaming better and the fundamental points of all games better than an adult because kids have been more immersed in gaming. and when i say adults im talking 30+ (which would be the older crowd that you speak of imo).
Jetdoc
Age doesn't matter as long as you have all chat turned off.
Kusandaa
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Agree with TheRaven
What worries me is not how the kids handle the mechanics of the game but that children under age 12 have a very hard time conceiving that the person behind the character may be completely different than the toon they are playing - regardless of the child's maturity level. Their brains simply have not formed the conceptual abilities they need for abstract thought - including separating fantasy from reality. One of my chars is a gray haired lady (I am definitely not). Recently I was helping a couple of players through the early stages of the game and they both told me their age. One was 8 and the other was 10. In spite of the fact I kept reminding them that they should not reveal information about themselves online and that they did not know who they might be playing with, they told me and each other what state they lived in, about their school, friends, and siblings. It scared me that they continued doing this even though I repeatedly told them not to. After I finished and logged off, I realized they were thinking of me as a little gray haired old lady no matter what I told them. Frankly, if I had wanted to I could probably have gotten their hometowns and first names. There are predators online and that incident showed me how easy it would be for a molester to manipulate a child into giving private information. My kids are grown but if I had young children now, I think I would not let them play any online game until age 13 and from 13-15 I would probably monitor them very closely. It's a scary world and these games, as good as the game itself may be, are no place for kids. |
I was totally unaware of sexual predators. I never gave any relatively personal info (let alone my age and my country, and maybe my city) anyways, and if someone would have wanted to meet me I would have refused.
Now, the question is: would I let my kid (if I had one) do the same? I'm not so sure. I'd probably monitor his activities for a while and I'd ask questions on his surfing habits every now and then (if anyone asked him for his home address, to meet him somewhere...), which I don't think my parents have done because they assumed I was mature enough not to do such things. If he was already a responsible kid I'd be a bit more lenient on that though, and would probably let him have the computer in his room. But it would really depend on how I'd trust the kid with the computer.
Same with online gaming.
As for other kids... I wish some would have supervision >_>.
obastable
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kids will almost always be better than adults at video games. kids grew up with them, they understand basic gaming better and the fundamental points of all games better than an adult because kids have been more immersed in gaming. and when i say adults im talking 30+ (which would be the older crowd that you speak of imo).
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I don't know a single person under 20 that could beat me at most games. Why? Because I know them inside and out, backwards and forwards, from the codebase up. The 30+ crowd (myself included) have been gaming on numerous platforms, across a few decades, since before most of the younger gamers were a blink in their parents eyes.
Now I hate to burst your bubble here, but us "older" gamers don't all religiously stick to playing Pong, Wonderboy, or while away our creative hours animating pixels with Broederbunds Fantavision software. We were young enough during the evolution of computers & gaming to evolve with the product.
The "older" gamers you're somewhat mocking in your post are the ones that create the games you claim the younger players are superior in playing. I fail to see the logic in your post.
Earth
As long as they're mature enough in their mind, it doesn't really matter. Whenever I told someone my age (15 now) they said they thought I was around 18 years old! Proves that simply because your body is young, you don't have to act like that.
I have to say I'm a bit worried about people who are under 12 years old though, simply because of what happened to Tom.
I have to say I'm a bit worried about people who are under 12 years old though, simply because of what happened to Tom.
Tatile
Age restrictions put in place by the censoring board that approves games should always apply. I don't believe there should be an exception for that, unless there is strict supervision from a parent/gaurdian. This is to protect the child involved, both from themselves and others, and so that they can have help through the gaming system with in-the-room support, if they need it.
Maturity is not equal to age. I know a lot of people that are mature but young, and many that older and immature.
Maturity is not equal to age. I know a lot of people that are mature but young, and many that older and immature.
stretchs
I believe NCSoft has an age of 18 minimum for their signup, whereas gw i believe is a 13+ setup. Personally I have no problem playing with whatever age as long as if they dont want to read it or shouldnt be, a parent should be able to lock the censor on. It isnt anet's job to control what someone elses children sees/reads, each parent should be active in their children's life/activities. If they want to allow their children to play though, the censor should be made where it couldnt be removed without a pwd from a parent or something. Just my 2c on it all
Tatile
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It isnt anet's job to control what someone elses children sees/reads, each parent should be active in their children's life/activities.
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Enraged Parent: "Why don't they have a chat filter!"
Bystander: "They do, your precious snowflake turned it off."
Enraged Parent: "It should be locked!"
Bystander: "It's optional, for those of us who aren't ten and don't have idiotic parents."
Enraged Parent: "TV and school can raise my kids! Brahhh!" *turns into rampaging petition parent*
Bystander: "...oh, spiffy..."
Exaggerated a little, but you get the general idea, right?
enter_the_zone
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This. This is a big problem in society at the moment it seems. A lot of people take the attitude that if there's a big company, or some sort of governmental/advisory body, involved in anyway at all, that suddenly they have little to no responsibilty in what happens.
Enraged Parent: "Why don't they have a chat filter!" Bystander: "They do, your precious snowflake turned it off." Enraged Parent: "It should be locked!" Bystander: "It's optional, for those of us who aren't ten and don't have idiotic parents." Enraged Parent: "TV and school can raise my kids! Brahhh!" *turns into rampaging petition parent* Bystander: "...oh, spiffy..." Exaggerated a little, but you get the general idea, right? |
stretchs
That was my point, it isnt gw's job to raise anyone's children. Each parent should be responsible for what their children does and doesnt do
Stockholm
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I believe NCSoft has an age of 18 minimum for their signup, whereas gw i believe is a 13+ setup. Personally I have no problem playing with whatever age as long as if they dont want to read it or shouldnt be, a parent should be able to lock the censor on. It isnt anet's job to control what someone elses children sees/reads, each parent should be active in their children's life/activities. If they want to allow their children to play though, the censor should be made where it couldnt be removed without a pwd from a parent or something. Just my 2c on it all
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The +13 age is the rating of the game given by E S R B (what ever that stands for, to lazy to look it up)
Olim Chill
I would think 12 and up is reasonable.
I also believe that age and maturity do not go hand in hand. People should be accepted / rejected because of their behavior, not age.
Edit: "in" not "and". Doh.
I also believe that age and maturity do not go hand in hand. People should be accepted / rejected because of their behavior, not age.
Edit: "in" not "and". Doh.
stretchs
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I also believe that age and maturity do not go hand and hand. People should be accepted / rejected because of their behavior, not age.
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Dono
12 years and older seems fair play.
Alex Morningstar
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no not really. yes maybe older people are better at thinking things through on a real life standard, but that simply does not apply here. your suggesting that because this game makes you think harder, the older you are the better you will be (on average).
kids will almost always be better than adults at video games. kids grew up with them, they understand basic gaming better and the fundamental points of all games better than an adult because kids have been more immersed in gaming. and when i say adults im talking 30+ (which would be the older crowd that you speak of imo). |
Hense the birth of M-rated games.
Kattar
I think there should be a minimum age for certain classes. You should have to fill out a questionaire before they let you play a Sin.
Do you like Naruto? Are you under 14? If yes, please try again. Thank you.
Do you like Naruto? Are you under 14? If yes, please try again. Thank you.
daveham
My son only turned 3 a couple of weeks ago....if he gets the chance this is what he does....
Turn PC on
Connect wireless router
Start Guildwars
Map Travel To Chahbek Village
Complete Mission with Masters
And then repeat mission until he gets dragged off PC
Strange thing is, he has never seen anyone do Chahbek...he just worked it out himself after watching other missions!
Turn PC on
Connect wireless router
Start Guildwars
Map Travel To Chahbek Village
Complete Mission with Masters
And then repeat mission until he gets dragged off PC
Strange thing is, he has never seen anyone do Chahbek...he just worked it out himself after watching other missions!
Tantra Existantance
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Originally Posted by daveham
My son only turned 3 a couple of weeks ago....if he gets the chance this is what he does....
Turn PC on Connect wireless router Start Guildwars Map Travel To Chahbek Village Complete Mission with Masters And then repeat mission until he gets dragged off PC Strange thing is, he has never seen anyone do Chahbek...he just worked it out himself after watching other missions! |
Fast learner. I think your son may be the next Steven Hawkings.
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
I don't think age really matters.
A basic intelligence test would be good, maybe then people could PuG without wanting to strangle the guy that thinks Healbreeze/Power shot/Flare/ tanking is good. And maybe AB would be more fun against people that can actually, you know... play. |
really age makes no diff but however
maturity does, and this goes for people on both ends.
Sometimes people are having fun trying to irk people and are only sucsessful because people take this game seriously. its rather sad if you really take this game super serious.
if you look at interactions between me and my guildies you would wonder if we hated eachother. we are just having fun, but people who come in thinking that all guilds are the same are really in for a surprise with mine
Dylananimus
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Originally Posted by Xx_Sorin_xX
kids will almost always be better than adults at video games. kids grew up with them, they understand basic gaming better and the fundamental points of all games better than an adult because kids have been more immersed in gaming. and when i say adults im talking 30+ (which would be the older crowd that you speak of imo). |
I was playing them before a lot of the kids playing them now were born 
I think that means I understand them better. Going by your logic that is.
daveham
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Originally Posted by Tantra Existantance
And your kids 3?
Fast learner. I think your son may be the next Steven Hawkings. |
Tatile
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Originally Posted by daveham
Unfortunately he also worked out how to put my Kuunavang in the delete bin along with several other items....he doesn't play anymore.....
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I'm impressed the little guy can reach the keyboard! *claps*
I think there's a picture of me as a baby bashing away at the keyboard, on one of the computers that didn't have a GUI based OS. Hehe.
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Unfortunately he also worked out how to put my Kuunavang in the delete bin along with several other items....he doesn't play anymore.....
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