Mes or Rit?

Or are you guys strong believers in the "FC Nuker" "FC SS" "FC Healer"? Yeah...the Mesmer owns, he can imitate another profession and not be as effective as them at their job...woot. Again, you are comparing apples and oranges. If you want to compare different professions, why not compare a monk against a warrior or a nuker? Each of them have their advantages and disadvantages.

A mesmer is better in certain things but a mesmer can't be as good as a necro in certain things, so what? Can a warrior or nuker heal as a well as a monk? Can a monk kill faster than a nuker?

I see no point in this little exercise.

Again, you are comparing apples and oranges. If you want to compare different professions, why not compare a monk against a warrior or a nuker? Each of them have their advantages and disadvantages.

A mesmer is better in certain things but a mesmer can't be as good as a necro in certain things, so what? Can a warrior or nuker heal as a well as a monk? Can a monk kill faster than a nuker?

I see no point in this little exercise. The point is the "FC ______" tries to imitate another profession, but doesn't do it as good as the normal profession.

Saying that a Warrior can't heal as good as a Monk is EXACTLY my point, thanks for proving it. A Warrior CAN'T heal as good as a Monk, just like a "FC Nuker" can't "nuke" as good as an Elementalist.

Comparing a "FC Nuker" to an Elementalist is not comparing apples to oranges. It is more like comparing a normal person to a retard.

A Mesmer can't be as good as anything in any given PvE situation. The things that a Mesmer excels at are moot in PvE, things such as caster shutdown and edenial.

The point is the "FC ______" tries to imitate another profession, but doesn't do it as good as the normal profession.

Saying that a Warrior can't heal as good as a Monk is EXACTLY my point, thanks for proving it. A Warrior CAN'T heal as good as a Monk, just like a "FC Nuker" can't "nuke" as good as an Elementalist.

Comparing a "FC Nuker" to an Elementalist is not comparing apples to oranges. It is more like comparing a normal person to a retard.

A Mesmer can't be as good as anything in any given PvE situation. The things that a Mesmer excels at are moot in PvE, things such as caster shutdown and edenial. Maybe you are just not thinking of all the possibilities. SoI brings ALL attribute lines to 16, besides granting level 11 rank (+1 above maxed possible rank) PvE skills.

The keyword here is synergy across attributes and professions. Just looking at the fire Ele, a fire Ele can have all the nice fire skills in his bar and even max energy storage, but what if he wants to also include Earth, Air, and Water skills in his skill bars and maintain ALL of them at level 16? No way.

What if the SF ele wants to blind his foes and offer more protection? You can use Steam along with SF, but wait, Steam is a water spell. At level 16 water, I can blind for 10 seconds, offer 73 cold damage using Steam. SoI allows maxed SF, maxed water, with only 1 superior rune with maxed fast casting. Similary for Enervating Charge and Glowstone or Stoning. I can have 16 seconds of weakness, gain 10 energy, knock down, and 109 earth + 56 earth + 52 lightning damage.

I have not even looked at synergizing with any rank 11 PvE skills and level 16 mesmer skills yet. Also spells in primary attributes like Soul Reaping, Energy Storage, Spawning Power, Divine Favor, Mysticism can't be used by secondary classes at level 16 (only level 0), but an SoI mesmer is unique.

Maybe you are just not thinking of all the possibilities. SoI brings ALL attribute liness to 16, besides granting level 11 rank (+1 above maxed possible rank) PvE skills.

The keyword here is synergy across attributes and professions. Just looking at the fire Ele, a fire Ele can have all the nice fire skills in his bar and even max energy storage, but what if he wants to also include Earth, Air, and Water skills in his skill bars and maintain ALL of them at level 16? No way.

What if the SF ele wants to blind his foes and offer more protection? You can use Steam along with SF, but wait, Steam is a water spell. At level 16 water, I can blind for 10 seconds, offer 73 cold damage using Steam. SoI allows maxed SF, maxed water, with only 1 superior rune with maxed fast casting. Similary for Enervating Charge and Glowstone or Stoning. I can have 16 seconds of weakness, gain 10 energy, knock down, and 109 earth + 56 earth + 52 lightning damage.

I have not even looked at synergizing with any rank 11 PvE skills and level 16 mesmer skills yet. I'm sorry, but your examples with single target spells that have slight synergies are /fail.

I mean really...Steam? Glowstone + Enervating Charge? Are you seriously wasting your whole entire skillbar on these mediocre single target skills?

Not to mention that your Mesmer doesn't have an elite.

Uh...Have you forgotton that we are talking about a SoI build?



So farming is suddenly not part of PvE anymore? I rest my case.

I rest my case. I rest mine:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...98#post3757898

I rest mine:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...98#post3757898 Attempt? Yes.
Sense? No.

I never meant farming was bad.

I meant that you thinking SOI is some kind of uber farming skill shows that you might be a bit retarded.

The point is that it costs energy.
In because of that - unlimited energy of SR > faster cast spells.


The difference is that because of the mesmers advanced techniques - his range in what works best in PvE (damage, damage, damage) is limited.
It doesn't mean it doesn't work. It just means it's not as good.
for energy if you can cast all you skills non stop and never need more energy to cast, SR becomes useless. For mesmers you dont spam skills, it reqs that you know how to play your bar



and as for as "damage damage damge" http://youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04&feature=related you dont need all that damage you can take damage out, and im sure things will still die "in 4 secs" as you guys put it and have a mesmer taking pressure off you team.

for energy if you can cast all you skills non stop and never need more energy to cast, SR becomes useless. For mesmers you dont spam skills, it reqs that you know how to play your bar



and as for as "damage damage damge" http://youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04&feature=related you dont need all that damage you can take damage out and im sure thing will still die "in 4 secs" as you guys put it and have a mesmer taking pressure off you team How is the Mesmer taking pressure off the team? Interrupts?

Guess what....ANY profession can do that, and Rangers can even do it BETTER. Rangers can use any interrupt skill that a Mesmer can use, + their own interrupts.