Mes or Rit?

you dont know any thing about gw do you? Energy burn "and a lot of mesmer skills" bypass rof and other prots I quit reading here. You just proved that you are in fact retarded.

Good day to you sir.

Edit...So you have THREE mesmers to drain one monks energy? wtf?

Edit2: You managed to drain a monk with 3 Mesmers zapping him...gratz? I mean really. 3 Rangers shooting him with [skill=text]Debilitating Shot[/skill] would drain his energy eventually. Does that somehow mean that it is practical?

yea i retested and it does not bypass rof but he does have 0 energy heres more testing for you

the 90 damage is from mind wrank, tryed to get him with a 0 damage e burn but he keeps dying
full pic Stop please, for your own benefit.

Three mesmers can successfully drain a Warriors energy...which still doesn't stop most of his damage. That screenshot proves what?

And please for the love of all that is holy, STOP CALLING IT MIND WRANK.

1. rangers are better at interrupting. this is common knowledge. if you disagree provide a reason. Ranger and Mesmer interrupts can be pretty different.

Ranger interrupts tend to be a bit slower (the arrow has to fly through the air), can be dodged/blocked (except [skill]magebane shot[/skill]), can interrupt non-spells, don't do energy gains, cause longer recharge.

Mesmer interrupts are near instant, can't be blocked or dodged, mostly spell interrupts, plenty of energy manipulation, typically longer recharge.

I would prefer a mesmer to interrupt if the target is under blocking effects, exceptional kiter.

Back to the topic:

Both rit and mesmer can be challenging and fun to play. Rits are one of the most versatile and flexible classes in all of GW and playing an effective mesmer can be very challenging. My advice is to play both

Why when you could use [skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill]? And since we are talking about PvE mesmers...

Technobabble > [skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill]

I dont even need to waste an elite slot and I can already achieve AoE daze.

Add that to the fact that:

1) It cant be blocked or dodged

2) I can cast this right through a wall. I dont need line of sight.

3) It is a spell, so the Ranger's expertise would not lower its 15e.

4) It has 1 second activation time, so mesmer FC would be useful.

In PvE, mesmers arent very good.
The end True that mesmers are alittle underpowered in PvE and they are alittle hard to play with. But for those who know this game well, there are lots of viable PvE mesmer builds.

In PvE, mesmers arent very good.
The end mesmers are just as good and any other prof, but most ppl dont think so due to the 1234567 algorithm

In PvE, mesmers arent very good.
The end [skill]signet of illusions[/skill]

Maybe?

True that mesmers are alittle underpowered in PvE this.

you admit it yourself. mesmers are underpowered in PvE, meaning they are not as good as other primaries in PvE.



as the only one still arguing for mesmers that seems to be semi-competent your the only one i need to bother replying to.

mesmers are just as good and any other prof, but most ppl dont think so due to the 1234567 algorithm Please share with us how a mesmer is as godly as a paragon.
If he isn't - the mesmer ISN'T as good as "any other prof".

Please share with us how a mesmer is as godly as a paragon.
If he isn't - the mesmer ISN'T as good as "any other prof". I dont understand this logic at all. Surely it depends entirely on the area and what else is in your party?

I recently found vanquishing Eastern Frontier was a helluva lot easier with a Mesmer than a Paragon but that would only be because of certain conditions that favour a Mesmer and make it more appropriate to bring along considering what profession I was playing (at the time I had to do it with an Ele).

In this area you can only have a 4 man party so you have to be really efficient in terms of how you deal and soak up damage because you don't have many players to work with. Ideally you need to find ways of doing lots of both at the same time. The Mesmer worked out better than a Ranger in terms of interrupting those monster heals like Heal Other and Heal Area because the Mesmer can do a big damage spike at the same time as interrupting (with skills like Power Spike). Rangers have awesome interrupts that are great with less downtime than Mes interrupts but they don't do any real damage. Mesmers can also Shatter Enchant which removes Healing Hands on the grawls and it does good damage at the same time. The AI is also very exploitable since the grawls will cast through Backfire and Empathy.

I specced a Blind Bot for that vanquish and Backfire + Shatter + Lightning Orb was enough to box those grawl healers into a corner in which they do eventually die. That particular 4 man party would not have worked without the Mesmer.

Paragons work great in larger parties that tend to stay in ear shot range. They work even better with more Paragons in the party since you can keep 3 or 4 echos up on everyone fairly easily and keep retriggering them with chants whilst recouping energy. Party support is fantastic and they can work good on their own too but not in Eastern Frontier and pretty much any area with a significant number of enemies that are packing Vocal Minority. Doing something like that is similar to running loads of warriors in an area with tonnes of warrior hate. Its just dumb.

The reason why Mesmers are not popular in PvE is because what they do best is not always visible to the rest of the team and can be mistaken for everyone else being more awesome than they really are.

It is easy to overestimate your party DPS if you have a decent Mesmer who can do things like catch Heal Area on a Shadow Monk using Power Block (thus taking out half the Monk's bar for 10+ seconds including WoH). Monk dies quickly and you never saw Heal Area get Blocked because you were bailing on something else. Pretty easy to think the win is all because of your damage dealers laying the smackdown and wastin' all the Monks energy.

You ever been in a group in hard mode where you got all your offense bailing on a 2 healer mob and you just cant bring enough damage per second to out damage the heals? Ever felt like this is going to go on forever so lets just resign and get an essense of Celerity? Damn don't you wish you had a mesmer that could power block for life and country?

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Mesmer or Rit?

Depends on lots of things. Both are fun to play. You will find it easier getting into a pickup PvE group with a Rit.

Rits are sort of broken in the sense that they have a load of absolutely useless skills and interspersed with them are a handful of ridiculously awesome ones. What this means is that most of the time you will be running variations of the same skill bar most of the time (it will nearly always have Ancestor's Rage, Splinter Weapon and Offering of Spirit or Weapon of Remedy for your elite. If you are more of a Resto Rit then you will mostly be using skills like Protective Was Kaoli, Spirit Light and Mend Body and Soul).

If you play a Mesmer then you have alot of viable alternatives as to what you can do but unless you have decent guild mates who will PvE with yoy alot, most public groups won't give a damn and you will probably end up doing that Reckless Haste/Empathy stuff or something like that. Assuming you even get into a group. I think its a shame because I tend to find every pve instance I play in can accomodate a mesmer provided everyone else in the team is willing to change a few things up to make sure theres synergy.

Or blocking. [skill]magebane shot[/skill]

[skill]magebane shot[/skill] There are advantages and disadvantages. If you use that then you are not using BHA, which means you dont get the dazed condition.

There are advantages and disadvantages. If you use that then you are not using BHA, which means you dont get the dazed condition. 10 Disable. Unblockable. 5s recharge.
I would prefer disabling a spell for 10s tbh...

or you could just interrupt guardian before they start blocking? 1 sec cast, not going to get it unless your next to them when they cast it and even then your spaming, unless you have a 0.1-0.15 reflex