Originally Posted by Tatile
BrotherGrim, have you been reading much of this thread? Personal details can be guessed at by the most inane of comments, or even just by how someone acts. Also, many of see no reason to lie about who we are, so if asked a direct question ('Are you a girl?' for example) we'll respond with a direct answer ('Yes.); not to mention that the way some people use words can be found offensive and those who are offended speak out (read back a bit).
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Stereotypes and GW - How does it affect you?
br0thergr1m
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Tatile
While I don't speak for everyone (obviously), most of us don't go looking for trouble, it just happens that people guess, or others have Local Chat on. For instance, I was helping a guy (level 15) through Riholn Refuge and Moddok Crevice (gah, never do that, it isn't fun) and half-way through he asks me if I'm a girl. His reasoning? I was polite.
It just happens, really.
It just happens, really.
Inde
Nah, brothergrim (sorry about not using numbers) there's a part of me that wonders the same. I can tell you, that I'm not asked such questions in game and have been following the thread and am really amazed at how many personal details people share online. Maybe I'm just overly cautious. I don't ask the same questions of other people, never really been asked such questions online. In IRC I get the same questions and I joke around or avoid the question (love sarcasm) not really hard to keep those details private actually.
I guess I'm just of the sense that I know everyone has a different opinion, different backgrounds, we come from different environments, and unless I'm prepared not to be overly sensitive about such things then if I choose to share them I choose to hear others opinions on them. Bad and good.
I guess I'm just of the sense that I know everyone has a different opinion, different backgrounds, we come from different environments, and unless I'm prepared not to be overly sensitive about such things then if I choose to share them I choose to hear others opinions on them. Bad and good.
br0thergr1m
Yeah I see where you are with this and this last post helped me understand. I would guess to say this comes down to how open a person is...both probably in RL and online (social etc). I personally am rather closed online and more apt to listen then to speak in RL. I do agree with you how most people have a hard time accepting something other than theirself.
Turtle222
I start off with a respect level smack in the 40% area. Being gay/bi/black/white/asian whatever will not change that respect-o-meter. Keep on talking about it and the respect level goes down. Focus on the game, and my respect goes up . Im not saying don't socialise, but get all ethical/political and i start to lose interest. As i said before, i just want to relax and play it .
This is why my local chat is off in shing jea, RA, LA, Droks, Kamadan
This is why my local chat is off in shing jea, RA, LA, Droks, Kamadan
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Inde
I can tell you, that I'm not asked such questions in game and have been following the thread and am really amazed at how many personal details people share online.
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I get questions. I reply truthfully 'cause I have nothing to hide, and I guess I'm not that scared about stalkers from the net. Not the case of my mother, who's very scared about such things because they talk about it on TV (yeah, the TV's aaaaalways right -_-;;; ). Dunno if she realizes it happens much less than she thinks, but even though I let people know in the city I live in, it doesn't mean they'll come after me to beat me up. And this doesn't mean, however, that nothing affects me 'cause I end up giving details...
Rexion
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
Example of idle convo in a long farming run... :
Guy #1: brb food, wife made BBQ ribs! Guy #2: gg my wife doesn't cook, I do it all! D= Guy #3: I don't have a wife, lol. must be good to come back and food's on the table ): Me: I can't cook to save my life, so my husband does most of the cooking... I BURN WATER... COME ON!!! Guy #2: you a girl? Me: No, I'm a gay male o.o. Guy #3: lol, cool Guy #2: OMFG UR GAY, UR SICK DUDE... Me: ... Guy #2: WOW UR SICK, UR SINNING MAN!!! EW!!! Me: dude, shut up and kill stuff >_> Guy #2: UR GAY EEEW... U SICK ****... |
I don't prefer to H/H 24/7. I bought GW so I could play Online. But when I play with others.
I have 5:3 guy:girl character ratio.
I play my girl characters more because they have the prettier/bad-ass armor (monk, necro, and ele). Whenever I pug, I'm cheerful and most people suspect my gender to be the same as my character.
When I answer to the "so, are you a girl?" I say "no, I'm a gay guy. I just am flamboyant." 9 out of 10 times, there will be the person that is mighty fine with any sexuality being like "OMG! I WANT YOU AS MY BESTFRIEND <33" and I love that.
But then you also get the people that hate it and flame you with hate speeches.
horseradish
I honestly don't mind what the people in game talk about.
It's a waste of time to get emotionally involved in anything online, not only games. *cough cough* Myspace *cough*
I was kicked out of my old guild because my monk's name is Boyfriend of God.
It was stupid, but I'm not angry.
It's a waste of time to get emotionally involved in anything online, not only games. *cough cough* Myspace *cough*
I was kicked out of my old guild because my monk's name is Boyfriend of God.
It was stupid, but I'm not angry.
Jelly Doughnuts
My alliance once had this guy who kept spamming in the chat about ALL Germans being Nazi's, and talking about boys are to doctors as girls are to nurses, he was promptly kicked for using offensive stereotypes
Koudelka
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Originally Posted by Rexion
I have this convo all the time in PUGs.
I don't prefer to H/H 24/7. I bought GW so I could play Online. But when I play with others. I have 5:3 guy:girl character ratio. I play my girl characters more because they have the prettier/bad-ass armor (monk, necro, and ele). Whenever I pug, I'm cheerful and most people suspect my gender to be the same as my character. When I answer to the "so, are you a girl?" I say "no, I'm a gay guy. I just am flamboyant." 9 out of 10 times, there will be the person that is mighty fine with any sexuality being like "OMG! I WANT YOU AS MY BESTFRIEND <33" and I love that. But then you also get the people that hate it and flame you with hate speeches. |
Me: Don't you think that's a little insulting?
Him: What?
Me: ... forget it.
Because my other friend was there, the last thing I'd want to do was start the "don't use gay as an insult" argument. I do pick up on it more now, as earlier in the day I told off my guild leader for doing it. :P
Funnily enough no one questions my gender (female chars) or my sexuality (um... yeah?). Personally I would only offer the information if I was really outraged at someone.
Introverted Dimensions
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Originally Posted by cellardweller
My guild is both racist (Aus/NZ only)
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And there's nothing wrong with an age limit for a guild imo, although it'd be pretty easy to just lie and get through that.
genofreek
I once had a guy ask me if I was a girl because I remarked that I was getting really terrible drops. I guess he thought I was being selfish, but I was more annoyed that everyone else was getting golds while I got trophies. :P
I tend to be open and chatty because I hate to kill in silence when I finally get groups. I H/H so much; it's just sad.
I tend to be open and chatty because I hate to kill in silence when I finally get groups. I H/H so much; it's just sad.
Death By Ketchup
I don't really get stereotyped. But I only tell people i knew on gw for a while who are good friends stuff about me. Even then its still only general stuff like how old I am, what city I live in,my real name. Some times I get poked fun at for being a Canadian but meh.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Death By Ketchup
I don't really get stereotyped. But I only tell people i knew on gw for a while who are good friends stuff about me. Even then its still only general stuff like how old I am, what city I live in,my real name. Some times I get poked fun at for being a Canadian but meh.
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Most of the times I'll laugh at it and joke along, but yesterday I was beyond pissed; they know when to stop most of the time.
Miss Puddles
i don't feel the need to announce my gender/race/religion/age/pepsi vs coke preference unless it's brought up in discussion...or i start talking in vent/ts nad everyone goes ZOMG GIRL ON TEH INARWEBZ!!!
does it really matter? probably not.
does it really matter? probably not.
naughteblonde
I rarely talk about my own race/sexuality/religion etc on Guild Wars.
Usually It the less than subtle type of gamers who bring it up working on the assumption that as my character is female, blonde, well endowed and in scanty armor - therefore I must be female, blonde, well endowed etc.
Gotta tell you I get some funny looks when Im out getting the groceries in my Sunspear elite armor...
Usually It the less than subtle type of gamers who bring it up working on the assumption that as my character is female, blonde, well endowed and in scanty armor - therefore I must be female, blonde, well endowed etc.
Gotta tell you I get some funny looks when Im out getting the groceries in my Sunspear elite armor...
llsektorll
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Originally Posted by Rexion
I have this convo all the time in PUGs.
I don't prefer to H/H 24/7. I bought GW so I could play Online. But when I play with others. I have 5:3 guy:girl character ratio. I play my girl characters more because they have the prettier/bad-ass armor (monk, necro, and ele). Whenever I pug, I'm cheerful and most people suspect my gender to be the same as my character. When I answer to the "so, are you a girl?" I say "no, I'm a gay guy. I just am flamboyant." 9 out of 10 times, there will be the person that is mighty fine with any sexuality being like "OMG! I WANT YOU AS MY BESTFRIEND <33" and I love that. But then you also get the people that hate it and flame you with hate speeches. |
anonymous
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Originally Posted by tehlemming
I assume that all girls are bad at warrior.
I've yet to be disproven. |
Koudelka
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Devona plays a mean hammer. |
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im kinda lost.... so are you really gay or just a chick not wanting attention? |
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most people suspect my gender to be the same as my character |
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so, are you a girl?" I say "no |
Rexion
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
im kinda lost.... so are you really gay or just a chick not wanting attention?
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I was saying... when I'm on a female character, people mistake me for a girl because of my character since I'm very cheerful and say "omg" or "your armor looks amazing :]".
Eldin
Hehe yeah, too many people think someone's char is the person's gender, though we all know that some classes (ele, assassin) are pretty much best played as a female character.
Admittedly there's lots of people whom play on female chars and act so nice I assume they are girls (it seems that the actual female players on GW are nicer anyways) only to have them then mention how their wife is nagging them to get off GW or something.
Admittedly there's lots of people whom play on female chars and act so nice I assume they are girls (it seems that the actual female players on GW are nicer anyways) only to have them then mention how their wife is nagging them to get off GW or something.
llsektorll
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Originally Posted by Eldin
Hehe yeah, too many people think someone's char is the person's gender, though we all know that some classes (ele, assassin) are pretty much best played as a female character.
Admittedly there's lots of people whom play on female chars and act so nice I assume they are girls (it seems that the actual female players on GW are nicer anyways) only to have them then mention how their wife is nagging them to get off GW or something. |
ensoriki
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
yea they are known as GW noobs...
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Tatile
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
yea they are known as GW noobs...
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
I like the color pink and I play paragon often, so people often think I am gay...
Not that there is anything wrong with being gay, but the point is that I should not be judged for what I am not >_> |
Pointing out to someone that their comments are moronic might get them to change their ways (though don't use the term 'moronic', it could turn out ugly), unless they're a general asshat.
Lishy
I like the color pink and I play paragon often, so people often think I am gay...
Not that there is anything wrong with being gay, but the point is that I should not be judged for what I am not >_>
Not that there is anything wrong with being gay, but the point is that I should not be judged for what I am not >_>
MasterSasori
Playing girl characters....
I hate being hit on, especially when ppl spam "asl" (age/sex/location). btw I'm a guy.
I hate being hit on, especially when ppl spam "asl" (age/sex/location). btw I'm a guy.
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Tatile
Nah, just plain old idiots (generic stereotyping FTL! Too bad I can't help it) or people who are genuinly confused at why someone would have a female character when they're a male. Which to be honest is quite a fair number of people, I've met actors who don't understand the concept of roleplaying.
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Gorebrex
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Originally Posted by MasterSasori
Playing girl characters....
I hate being hit on, especially when ppl spam "asl" (age/sex/location). btw I'm a guy. |
Not gay myself, but have had people ask before, because all my characters are female. I like girls, and I like looking at them whats the big deal? I guess some people have that "immersion thing", and visualize themse;ves as their character.
Personally, I dont care whos what. I just want people to be decent human beings, and play the game fairly well, thats all I ask for.
Eldin
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Originally Posted by MasterSasori
Playing girl characters....
I hate being hit on, especially when ppl spam "asl" (age/sex/location). btw I'm a guy. |
Probably doesn't happen as much anymore as now all the fiends are in Shing Jea.
High Moral
Everytime I see a warrior with a sword, I think they are like 13 years old. I base this on NOTHING, I have no reason to think this but I do. I also know that I am an idiot that thinks this, and I try to push the thought away when he say:
Random Sword Warrior : OMG!WTFBBQ! I HIT SO HARD! MY WARRIOR IS SO BADASS! I HIT SO HARD! LOOK I DO MY AE MOVES NOW, AND EVERYTHING TAKES DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me: Yes, you got splinter weapon.
*Random sword warrior runs ahead of group into a group and dies*
Random sword warrior: WHY DIDNT YOU HEAL!?????????? DIDNT YOU FOLLOW???? HEAL ME!!!
Me: sigh..
Random Sword Warrior : OMG!WTFBBQ! I HIT SO HARD! MY WARRIOR IS SO BADASS! I HIT SO HARD! LOOK I DO MY AE MOVES NOW, AND EVERYTHING TAKES DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me: Yes, you got splinter weapon.
*Random sword warrior runs ahead of group into a group and dies*
Random sword warrior: WHY DIDNT YOU HEAL!?????????? DIDNT YOU FOLLOW???? HEAL ME!!!
Me: sigh..
NaimaOmadara
I can very much relate to this thread. I been playing GW for about 2 ½ years and I can remember one of the first things I did was look for a Gay Friendly Guild… And I was practically crucified in open districts. Then I looked to a forum for other gay players… crucified again… It’s like… when will people grow up… and honestly… when did Gamers become so closed minded?
I also play mostly… well only Female characters… and guys automatically assume I’m a female… so I just play it off to avoid confrontation. It’s really all kinda lame if you ask me… But Oh Well.
I also play mostly… well only Female characters… and guys automatically assume I’m a female… so I just play it off to avoid confrontation. It’s really all kinda lame if you ask me… But Oh Well.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Eldin
Every single one of my female Prophecies characters, after doing "Adventure With An Ally" I had to put my status to Offline and put the party member's name on IGNORE.
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Probably doesn't happen as much anymore as now all the fiends are in Shing Jea. |
Brayolnne
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Originally Posted by High Moral
*Random sword warrior runs ahead of group into a group and dies*
Random sword warrior: WHY DIDNT YOU HEAL!?????????? DIDNT YOU FOLLOW???? HEAL ME!!! Me: sigh.. |
The other day I passed a monk with an interesting name: I Don't Heal Morons. On questioning, "she" stated that as you would expect she tends to solo a lot.
Brayolnne
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Originally Posted by NaimaOmadara
when did Gamers become so closed minded?
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Now with the advent of CRPGs, complex programming/scripting languages and high-end computers the genre has been opened up to a substantially younger audience. So we're seeing younger players, people who are still in middle school, joining the ranks of gamers. Considering this is almost a natural outgrowth of the "imaginary" games & life of a child, it shouldn't be so surprising that these games are so popular with this age group.
With the average age of their participants constantly getting younger, companies must make allowances for the "target market" in the product. Their is no way to avoid that. In business you've got to "follow the money".
MTV is experiencing the same problem. Remember the 80's and VJ's? They were 22-40 year olds catering to a college audience. Seen MTV lately? The audience now consists of very young ladies, in their early teens.
And I don't think that reality TV is helping. The implication these young people may be getting is that drama and/or extremist personalities and appearances become famous.
Oukanna
I am a female that plays female characters, but whenever I team with people they assume I am a guy and call me dude etc ( I don't mind that, i usually joke around and say *cough* dudette*cough* ) then they go "OMG YOUR A REAL GIRL?? ARE YOU HOTT??" or "Will you be my gf? " then after that i get pmed with these people asking for web cam sex they will give me gold for it lol
I am starting to think creating a male character will solve all my problems xDD
I am starting to think creating a male character will solve all my problems xDD
Koudelka
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Originally Posted by NaimaOmadara
I can very much relate to this thread. I been playing GW for about 2 ½ years and I can remember one of the first things I did was look for a Gay Friendly Guild… And I was practically crucified in open districts. Then I looked to a forum for other gay players… crucified again… It’s like… when will people grow up… and honestly… when did Gamers become so closed minded?
I also play mostly… well only Female characters… and guys automatically assume I’m a female… so I just play it off to avoid confrontation. It’s really all kinda lame if you ask me… But Oh Well. |
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Oh and editing my first post here... yeah actually I was discriminated once xD. Waiting in Saltspray I was talking about Yaoi to someone when this person said the usual "fag, you're sick, get cured" etc etc. Funnily enough this only happens in American districts (most people in English European don't speak English, which is sometimes nice ^^). I would play in a Canadian district by the sounds of a few posts here :P.
Trub
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Originally Posted by Oukanna
I am a female that plays female characters, but whenever I team with people they assume I am a guy and call me dude etc ( I don't mind that, i usually joke around and say *cough* dudette*cough* ) then they go "OMG YOUR A REAL GIRL?? ARE YOU HOTT??" or "Will you be my gf? " then after that i get pmed with these people asking for web cam sex they will give me gold for it lol
I am starting to think creating a male character will solve all my problems xDD |
I had the same problem.
Then, I made a male toon..and the guys seem to calm themselves.
They still know I am a female gamer..but they don't get quite as 'horny' towards the pixels on a male toon.
The armor isn't as nice, but for the peace..it's sometimes worth it.
I pwnd U
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Originally Posted by Trub
LOL
I had the same problem. Then, I made a male toon..and the guys seem to calm themselves. They still know I am a female gamer..but they don't get quite as 'horny' towards the pixels on a male toon. The armor isn't as nice, but for the peace..it's sometimes worth it. |
OMG TRUB R A GIRL!?!?!?! Trubssssssss will u bes mai e-gf!1!1!111!1
Ohsh-- Forgot about Racktoe...
I have teamed with some rl girls in groups before. Whenever people find out they are girls they start being like "OMG Be my gf!" and that stuff. Just shows how immature or desperate the gaming population is...
Eldin
A shame that male Monks are hideous.
A shame all Factions males are hideous.
A shame that all male NF warriors are hideous.
A shame that skirt-wearing male paragons are hideous.
A shame all Factions males are hideous.
A shame that all male NF warriors are hideous.
A shame that skirt-wearing male paragons are hideous.
Trub
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Originally Posted by I pwnd U
OMG TRUB R A GIRL!?!?!?! Trubssssssss will u bes mai e-gf!1!1!111!1
Ohsh-- Forgot about Racktoe... I have teamed with some rl girls in groups before. Whenever people find out they are girls they start being like "OMG Be my gf!" and that stuff. Just shows how immature or desperate the gaming population is... |
Everyone else's:
Works great so far..