I had a conversation along these lines in my guild the other day, on about racism in the game and I came up woth the line
"Everyone is predjudice, just in differnt levels"
This didnt go down to well, ButI stand by my point - The conversation went on to a guy saying how he isnt predjudice:
"I dont think every middle eastern person is a terrorist"
Which lead me to the point of the fact he assumed every terrorist is middl eastern though
I dont know why you needed that little story but this just reminded me of it
But really I think if we want to admit it or not we are all a little racist, or sexist, or ageist or what ever box you want to put it into
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on further though I suppose I should stop refering to anyone who feels the need to tell people about there religion as a "zealot" but meh....Nobody's perfect
Stereotypes and GW - How does it affect you?
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Originally Posted by Rexion
Although, I'm one that is actually learning spanish... so I don't see why people from other countries hate me when I'm attempting to learn their language.
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Originally Posted by Blizzard.
I've been in rough situations before too Xander and all others.
I've been kicked from a guild because of my young age. I've been 'banned' from a certain guild from the guild leader's wife accussing me of calling her a ****, when I really didn't, so I got kicked even though I told the truth. I've been kicked in a HA guild because of my intelligence level. {let me explain this one}... I was accepted into a [GANK] guild group into HA, when we failed mission, we went back to HA and they kicked me. When I asked why they said this: Because you used the letter 'u' instead of the actually word you. Some people are really messed up.. Like come on! I was in the middle of monking and you want me to say something with ALL punctuation. I want to say a quick command and continue monking, not use proper grammer, and watch as the 'Your team failed this mission' message pop-up |
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Originally Posted by PyrAnkh
Some people still have to get used to girls playing a game. Or more like not-that-ugly girls playing a game. I posted a picture of myself in the See Who Ya Play topic in offtopic a couple days ago. Then somebody replied asking me if it was fake, claiming that 'girls like that do not know how a computer works'.
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On topic: no, stereotypes do not affect me at all. Sure I drink vodka everyday and love my bear pet. That's how the things work in Russia
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Originally Posted by tehlemming
I assume that all girls are bad at warrior.
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I am in the "girls on Guild Wars" group here. There's a lot of rude crap being tossed at girls these days, especially in SJM AD1... then again that place is full of morons, but I get it in PuGs, other outposts, even whispers... basically "if ur really a girl r u hot" or "u must be ugly n butch cuz no pretty girl uses computers"
People think that just because I'm a girl, I'm either ugly and manly, or I play a cute little Elementalist or Monk. That's not me at all. I am a sarcastic tomboy, and the only thing shorter than my attention span is my temper. My main character is a female Warrior. I don't even tank, my job is right up in the front lines tossing around massive damage. My Warrior isn't even what most boys would call "hot" - in fact, her face looks kind of... tormented o_O but that's what I get for creating my character on a pentium 3 laptop without much of any video card... Oh well. People see my female warrior and immediately think "guy" until I correct them. And then comes the harassment. "Hey are you single?" "do u need a bf?" "wanna make out?" "strip for me" WTF????
I'm also subject to a lot of hate because I'm Chinese-American. People always ask me if I know kung fu/karate, or if I'm a communist, or if I like to use chopsticks... coupled up with the fact that I'm a girl, they immediately think "Asian... girl.... MUST BE HOT! Strip for me plzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!"
Thankfully, I never reveal my religion to people I don't know so that's one less thing I can be flamed for...
- I have been flamed for not playing a female Elementalist because "girls shouldnt be warriors"
- I have been told that I should only monk because "monking is the girls job"
- I have been kicked from groups because I was female and wouldn't speak over vent
- I have been called "fat" and "ugly" because I was able to outwit a whole bunch of flamers in AB. (While I'm not sure if I count as "ugly" - that's not my place to choose - I know for one that I'm not fat)
- I have been insulted for not swearing and cussing
- I've been assumed to be good at PvP beacuse I'm Chinese.
- Someone was so convinced that I was male simply because "ur good at GW, ur not a ditz, and u play a girl char"
Right... and I forgot. The good old "FIX ME A SANDWITCH AND GET ME A BEER U RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO" statement.
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
I said something about my boyfriend (who's now my husband)
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I don't want to turn this into one of those giant "gays and Jesus and TLDR, oh my!" threads [snip by me] so I won't.
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I have to confess: I'm a girl, and I know I'm bad at Warrior.

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Originally Posted by DarkFlame
You know, I remember a little while back there was this one poster on Guru. Every other thread he responded in or started was talking about how he got into these big epic flame wars on All Chat or getting nasty pms or was constantly being discriminated against and kicked from groups. His reason was because he was gay. The question I have to ask and others did at the time, was how does that one topic come up and come up so very often for that poster? I know that sometimes, things can't exactly be hidden(like English not being their primary language), but do some players really have to go around shouting their private life in other people's faces all the time?
If a player starts rubbing it in their faces and refuses to drop that subject, they are going to get some hostile reactions. If we are seeing such hostile reactions often, its just because the vocal minority such as that above mention poster and just so, well vocal. I'm in no way saying people should hide things about themselves like its something to be ashamed of. I'm just saying these are not things that come up in normal conversation or in gameplay, so there shouldn't ever be a need to bring them up. But if they start bringing something up over and over again, guess what? They're ruining my game experience and I don't need that. |
Gay people don't HAVE to go 'talking about it all the time' to find themselves being discriminated against. You can say ONE thing that gives you away and that's it, somebody will go off at you. It's normally the OTHER person that won't drop it and you're forced to defend yourself.
I get people's heterosexuality 'rubbed in my face' everyday, 24/7...but because I might make an offhand comment about my girlfriend, or about an actress I like, or about a show I watch (that might point to the fact I'm gay) I'm the one who's in the wrong and should stop talking about it if I get flamed or abused? I don't think that sounds very fair, do you?
I don't expect straight people not to make small comments about their life that might make them seem 'straight', so why should I be expected to keep my mouth shut if I'm a talkative person in general?
That's like saying..."I don't mind homosexuals, as long as they don't live near me, or ever speak of it." How homophobic is that?? People need to learn to be tolerant (at least, though acceptance is better), and that won't come about if gay people continue to be expected to "keep quiet about it'. Yes, people are always going to be abusive if it's just in their nature...but sometimes, being open about who you are (a basic human right surely) can make others realise you're not the devil or about to eat their babies

It's not me as a gay person that needs to change the way I act...it's people that are abusive and homophobic

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People on the whole are too judgemental, and far too homophobic. Personally I'm fine with gay people, but I know a have a few friends IRL who aren't...and who are really the opposite. It really makes me laugh that they can be so OPPOSED to homosexuality, considering that it really doesn't affect them in any way (well, at least not in any important ways). People are people, gay or straight. Everyone just needs to chill and be accepting. Like no one in particular, I promise Inde 
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Congrats! Since when?
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(In netspeak for those who don't seem to get it: dun turn dis in2 a flamefest kthx).
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Oh, and I assume everyone who chats in netspeak (the horrible version) is 13 or younger. I'm sorry, I can't help it. It just sounds rude or like they beg, and I doubt most adults act like that.
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Gay people don't HAVE to go 'talking about it all the time' to find themselves being discriminated against. You can say ONE thing that gives you away and that's it, somebody will go off at you. It's normally the OTHER person that won't drop it and you're forced to defend yourself.
I get people's heterosexuality 'rubbed in my face' everyday, 24/7...but because I might make an offhand comment about my girlfriend, or about an actress I like, or about a show I watch (that might point to the fact I'm gay) I'm the one who's in the wrong and should stop talking about it if I get flamed or abused? I don't think that sounds very fair, do you? |
Every now and then I'll go BRB, and I generally leave the reason why. "BRB Laundry!" "BRB FOOOOOOOOOD!!!" and sometimes, "BRB Husband home." A couple possible replies to the last one:
- "OMFG UR A GIRL PLAYING A MALE CHAR?????" I don't know, but they seem literally amazed that female players DO play male chars. However, I'm not female. I know some gals who play male chars just like how guys play female chars: eye candy is one. Armor choices. Certain animations you don't like for a gender.
- "dude r u gay????"
- ".... /ragequit"
- every sort of possible "okay", "I don't care, lol" and "cool! go have fun!".
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i don't tell people personal crap about me. no need to at all. doesnt do anything for me game-wise. Sterio types dont bother me most of the time because I have a low opinion of people in general (sterio typing all of humanity FTW!)
I enjoy gaming with my normal, reliable, mature group of heroes and henchies who never rage quit, or insult, or go afk or any of the many many other things players do.
I do not care what country you are from, what your sexual choices are or what you call god or even if you believe in god at all. I do not care if you have kids or what kinda car you drive or if you have the newest technology out.
I dont care if you have a PHD or own your own buisness or like to cook baby cats. I dont care if you brag about your twelve stacks of ectos or your ability to run droks in less than 20 minutes or the fact you spend 3+ hours a day dancing while afk.
I dont care if you post information on guildwiki for others to use or that you have every title, minature and quest. I dont care if you have a penis or a vagina, if you can speak 9 languages or wear spandex. I dont care if you are rich or have herpies.
This is a video game, i only care about having fun. leave IRL drama and information for IRL people and stick to the game. Show consideration and respect to me and i shall return it endlessly, otherwise its blocklist and on to henchies.
I use mending as a warrior because no one seems to know how to remove conditions from my character. Monks never heal me when i tank damage and no one knows how to direct their attacks together to bring down monsters fast.
My sterio type is this: Heroes and Henchies are better to play with than players because they get the job done without any suprises or drama, if they fail it is because I failed to prepare them correctly or play them correctly.
Guilds are pretty much pointless, every guild i join never has anything to offer my character in the way of help or fun events, not even organized playing grous. all they do is talk and make fun of other people or try to sell me crap i dont want.
Guildwars is a video game, and online to boot. Most gamers are rude and careless and being online increases the chance of contact with these sterio typical rude gamers. unsupervised children and disfunctional adults make up the vast majority of this group so i tend to avoid them like the plague.
Yes I am a nice person who shows respect and likes to have fun and forget RL bs. but i seem to find the worst of the worst online and it has left me cynical and bitter. I am also proud of it, i would rather be Me than anyone else.
GW is bad, but starcraft was much worse. sc and wc are flamer games, log onto the flame war, play til your head hurt, log off, find a new game.
oh and dont forget the fact that players from other mmo's really do not like or respect gw players as they claim gw is a sucky game with stolen ideas, played only by pimply 12 year olds.
As i said, I do not care.
PS: My book comes out next week.
I enjoy gaming with my normal, reliable, mature group of heroes and henchies who never rage quit, or insult, or go afk or any of the many many other things players do.
I do not care what country you are from, what your sexual choices are or what you call god or even if you believe in god at all. I do not care if you have kids or what kinda car you drive or if you have the newest technology out.
I dont care if you have a PHD or own your own buisness or like to cook baby cats. I dont care if you brag about your twelve stacks of ectos or your ability to run droks in less than 20 minutes or the fact you spend 3+ hours a day dancing while afk.
I dont care if you post information on guildwiki for others to use or that you have every title, minature and quest. I dont care if you have a penis or a vagina, if you can speak 9 languages or wear spandex. I dont care if you are rich or have herpies.
This is a video game, i only care about having fun. leave IRL drama and information for IRL people and stick to the game. Show consideration and respect to me and i shall return it endlessly, otherwise its blocklist and on to henchies.
I use mending as a warrior because no one seems to know how to remove conditions from my character. Monks never heal me when i tank damage and no one knows how to direct their attacks together to bring down monsters fast.
My sterio type is this: Heroes and Henchies are better to play with than players because they get the job done without any suprises or drama, if they fail it is because I failed to prepare them correctly or play them correctly.
Guilds are pretty much pointless, every guild i join never has anything to offer my character in the way of help or fun events, not even organized playing grous. all they do is talk and make fun of other people or try to sell me crap i dont want.
Guildwars is a video game, and online to boot. Most gamers are rude and careless and being online increases the chance of contact with these sterio typical rude gamers. unsupervised children and disfunctional adults make up the vast majority of this group so i tend to avoid them like the plague.
Yes I am a nice person who shows respect and likes to have fun and forget RL bs. but i seem to find the worst of the worst online and it has left me cynical and bitter. I am also proud of it, i would rather be Me than anyone else.
GW is bad, but starcraft was much worse. sc and wc are flamer games, log onto the flame war, play til your head hurt, log off, find a new game.
oh and dont forget the fact that players from other mmo's really do not like or respect gw players as they claim gw is a sucky game with stolen ideas, played only by pimply 12 year olds.
As i said, I do not care.
PS: My book comes out next week.

