Thursday, March 20, 2008 Game Update

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates:March_2008

Update - Thursday, March 20, 2008

Skill Changes

Assassin

Fox's Promise: functionality changed to: For 5..20 seconds, your dagger attacks cannot be blocked. This enchantment ends the next time you fail to hit.

Dervish

Guiding Hands: decreased number of attack skills that cannot be blocked to 0..3.

Mesmer

Enchanter's Conundrum: functionality changed to: For 10 seconds, target foe casts enchantments 100% slower. When this hex is applied, that foe takes 30..120 damage if not under the effects of an enchantment or hex spell.
Hex Breaker: decreased duration to 5..80 seconds.
Mantra of Concentration: decreased duration to 1..38 seconds; increased recharge to 30 seconds.

Necromancer

Angorodon's Gaze: decreased Energy cost to 5; decreased Health stolen to 10..40; decreased Energy gained to 1..9.

Ranger

Power Shot: decreased damage to 5..20.
Precision Shot: decreased damage to 3..18.
Sundering Attack/Penetrating Attack: decreased damage to 3..10; decreased armor penetration to 10%; increased recharge to 4 seconds.

Warrior

Magehunter's Smash: increased adrenaline cost to 8 strikes; updated the animation to match Hammer Bash.
Mokele Smash: decreased adrenaline gained to 2 strikes.

Automated Tournaments

You now lose K value (25 for daily, 50 for monthly) rating if you sign up for a tournament and forfeit the first round.
Tournament Reward points are now based off the number of teams who did not forfeit in the first round.
Bonus tournament reward points are now awarded for playing in every round of a daily tournament: 5 for 1v1 daily tournaments, and 15 for GvG daily tournaments.

Bug Fixes

Fixed a bug that caused the map marker on the reward NPC to not appear when the Clear the Chamber quest completed in the Underworld.

Miscellaneous

Added new text to Kun Shao regarding the Xunlai Tournament House.

Zaris

Zaris

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Netherlands

only skill nerfs

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

Does this mean Angorodon's Gaze is viable for spamming again? even though it doesn't steal as much hp?

Overall seems like an okay update.

xLeo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Bloody nerfs -.-

Prof Of Black

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

Lol at AG nerf. gg bspike in gvg
And fox promise.. meh
Dont like the AT 'nerf' tho :/

~Prof.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

sigh, my ranger was just getting fun to play again....

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

rofl this is really updating and nerfing just random stuff
wth with the ranger skills here

anet needs a new key-bored

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

I should stop wasting my time reading these updates.

PicardSunstar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

/happy at the AT stuff more keys for me ^^

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

Ouch for sundering attack lol. Man i wish pvp and pve used separate skill lines lol. How wells its not that bad really.

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

W/

thats not random stuff, its stuff that was being abused in pvp, get a clue.

X Black Chaos X

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

In your basement

Team Fruitcake

Mo/W

Thank YOu anet!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love the AT's now!!!!!!

Windf0rce

Windf0rce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

I love the Penetrating/Sundering Attack nerfs, it was indeed overpowered and getting out of hand in the arenas... FAR too much damage.

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Quote:
Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
its stuff that was being abused in pvp, get a clue.
Here we go again.

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

R/

I've been playing for 5 months now and the only thing that really bugs me about updates is the fact that you have no point of refference as to what those skills were before. All we are being told is what they are now.

Not everyone knows them all by heart.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

No more pew pew/turret ranger then i guess

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Wow, all the nerfs for Ranger were kinda stupid-looking.

Good thing I don't use any of those skills.

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
Ouch for sundering attack lol. Man i wish pvp and pve used separate skill lines lol. How wells its not that bad really.
you and me and many others

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Power shot 5-20 should change to wet noodle shot

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Ouch, nerf to Angorodon's Gaze... don't mind the decreased energy gain but WTF happened to the damage. Not that I used sundering attack but that's a rather harsh nerf too.

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Yet another update and still no sign of a fix for the "dual-core crashing problem"! Why do they bother with nothing else but messing around with the skills when there's far more important real issues that need addressing?

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Wow, all the nerfs for Ranger were kinda stupid-looking.

Good thing I don't use any of those skills.
Yup those skills were BS already but from the looks of this, PvP fellas liked em enough hence this "update". But what can we do about this, we re just mere PvE people ©

/antagonize

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

for the casual pve'er (which is an abuse magnet on these forums), these constantly changing/nerfing of random skills once or twice a week is quite frustrating
oblivion: the rules are set and you can count on things being constant if you want to change things up yourself
I know gw is different.......but for many players they just want a casual pve experience

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

well this sucks.....

Rift

Rift

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Canada

Virtual Love [kiSu]

This just in: By next week, Rangers will only be able to equip the following:

BlueSS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Finland

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
rofl this is really updating and nerfing just random stuff
wth with the ranger skills here

anet needs a new key-bored
not random stuff. pew pew rangers were too strong

Sundering Attack, Penetrating Attack, Precision Shot, Prepared Shot, Lightning Reflexes, Flail, Read The Wind, Rez build is now weaker

also A/D scythe sins are gone

Fox Promise, Wearying Strike, Mystic Sweep, Dash, Shadow Walk, Way of The Master, Assassins Remedy, Rez no longer works

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rift
This just in: By next week, Rangers will only be able to equip the following:

My son has one of those....hahahaha....

<snort>

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

*Kicks the bloody corpses of turret rangers, EC spikers, and angodoron's gaze*

Suck it, lame overpowered gimmicks! Overall, a pretty nice update.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rift
This just in: By next week, Rangers will only be able to equip the following:

Did you perhaps miss the part where rangers were doing more DPS than a warrior from range? Can you see how that *might* be imbalanced?

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

Odd. I've never seen anyone use Guiding Hands except, on about a couple of occasions, myself (just for a joke). The reason for this is; nobody uses wind prayers. Not sure why it needed a nerf.

Prof Of Black

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueSS
also A/D scythe sins are gone

Fox Promise, Wearying Strike, Mystic Sweep, Dash, Shadow Walk, Way of The Master, Assassins Remedy, Rez no longer works
Dark apostasy.. gg for you.

~Prof.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ
Odd. I've never seen anyone use Guiding Hands except, on about a couple of occasions, myself (just for a joke). The reason for this is; nobody uses wind prayers. Not sure why it needed a nerf.
Spiking in PvP. Lots of dervs/assasas equipped it.

~Prof.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ
Odd. I've never seen anyone use Guiding Hands except, on about a couple of occasions, myself (just for a joke). The reason for this is; nobody uses wind prayers. Not sure why it needed a nerf.
Dervspike used guiding hands to make a completely unprottable spike. If you'd pressed "b" sometime in the last few months, you would have seen in at least half of all matches.

Just because wind prayers is shit in PvE doesn't mean it's not really, really good in PvP.

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

Lol, that's some funny stuff there.

RiKio

RiKio

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Plato's Cave

W/E

No more Pew Pew Rangers

no more Sycthe sins

No more Conundrum Spike

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]


For you all saying these nerfs are unnecessary/random...

Fox's and Guiding Hands were for Warriors, Assassins, and Dervishes to spike through Aegis/Guardian/[insert block skill here]

The ranger skills were cheap, spammable, hard hitting, especially on a turret ranger.

The necro stuff is anti-blood spike.

Memsers had a rather ridiculous Conundrum spike.

All PvP-related nerfs, so let the QQing commence.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

was Magehunter Smash really TOO powerful after they finally made it a real elite last week?

8 adrenaline seems a bit steep....

...just my opinion tho. 3 Years and my favorite elite warrior skill remains DBS..

Rift

Rift

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Canada

Virtual Love [kiSu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Did you perhaps miss the part where rangers were doing more DPS than a warrior from range? Can you see how that *might* be imbalanced?
That data is flawed since it doesn't factor in Obstruction bugs and a missing Z-axis.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

bye bye ranger, i just started to play her again too. 3...10? wtf +10???

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rift
That data is flawed since it doesn't factor in Obstruction bugs and a missing Z-axis.
I don't think it's that hard to avoid shooting walls. I guess I'm an elitist or something.

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

PvP screws people over, as usual. Big surprise.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miska Bow
I've been playing for 5 months now and the only thing that really bugs me about updates is the fact that you have no point of refference as to what those skills were before. All we are being told is what they are now.

Not everyone knows them all by heart.
If you follow the link provided in the first post - you end up on the wiki page explaining the changes. The you click the skill you are interested in (in terms of how it was changed) and above the skill description you have 4 buttons - article/discussion/edit/history. You click "history" and previous versions of the skill appear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
I don't think it's that hard to avoid shooting walls. I guess I'm an elitist or something.
So you never stood in plain sight of the target (or meybe even NEXT to it) and kept getting "The target is obstructed" message? And then moved around and STILL got it? Even though there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between you and the target?
Must be a PvE thing then ...





Nothing that would interest me about the update really.