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Originally Posted by Tarun
PvP screws people over, as usual. Big surprise.
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Thursday, March 20, 2008 Game Update
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Originally Posted by Miska Bow
I've been playing for 5 months now and the only thing that really bugs me about updates is the fact that you have no point of refference as to what those skills were before. All we are being told is what they are now.
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Originally Posted by upier
So you never stood in plain sight of the target (or meybe even NEXT to it) and kept getting "The target is obstructed" message? And then moved around and STILL got it? Even though there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between you and the target?
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The turret ranger build is still *slightly* alive, since their strength came primarily from the 1s cast skills. Since those still exist, it still works, albeit the bar has less room for utility and whatnot.
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So you never stood in plain sight of the target (or meybe even NEXT to it) and kept getting "The target is obstructed" message? And then moved around and STILL got it? Even though there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING between you and the target? Must be a PvE thing then ... |
with bridges and the lack of the Z-axis (or whatever axis it is) the game goes a bit cucu and doesnt detect it. how many bridges are in the pvp maps again?
a second way to have it "triggered" is to stand like really really close a wall, and it doesnt happen always, in pvp, how many people stand still close to a wall? usually they try to not get too close to walls or they could get bodyblocked and be screwed, and usually they are always kiting.
but then again, its been a long time since i last pvped.
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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Yes, it happens but it's fairly rare. Saying that the z-axis bug completely destroys all advantage ranged attacks have over melee is really pretty silly. If that was actually true, everyone would run hamstring rangers instead of cripshots.
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And Prepshot Rangers are just a baed build that gained traction because of a lack of countermeasures (e.g. Shields Up change).
And no, not Hamstring Rangers. With Scythe Sins gone, and Bow Rangers hurting, the obvious solution is now to have Rangers run Escape and wield Scythes.. oh wait.
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
PvPers see it the other way around, PvE ruined PvP with Heroes and Nightfall, ironic, is it not....
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when a particular skill is virtually unused in pve, and 'imba' in pvp, and it gets nerfed, it might as well not even exist in pve
and vice versa
As a PvEr Ranger since birth (?), I must say that these nerfs do absolutely nothing to affect my playstyle whatsoever. The amount of percieved damage lost versus actual damage noticed at all is not equal. The latter is barely changed, where the former just affects people who love a good QQ.
But then again, I have abandoned reasoning with either camp since Factions came out and the PvP vs PvE "discussion" began in earnest. Whatever.
Damnit, Gaze would have been nice to have in its current form when I was beating Cyndr "I never die without a damn blood necro or two killing me from behind a pillar" the Mountain Heart yesterday. Effing hate that boss. Thank god I only need to do it once...
But then again, I have abandoned reasoning with either camp since Factions came out and the PvP vs PvE "discussion" began in earnest. Whatever.
Damnit, Gaze would have been nice to have in its current form when I was beating Cyndr "I never die without a damn blood necro or two killing me from behind a pillar" the Mountain Heart yesterday. Effing hate that boss. Thank god I only need to do it once...
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