GW PLEASE take my money..

Free Runner

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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
Way to NOT step up to the plate...lol

Or perhaps she doesnt want to waste her time explaining how to farm when its obvious the Op has not even tried to look around for a farming build. Especially considering hes an ele.

netniwk

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Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down

Also you don't need to farm repetitively to get money for your 15k armor. All you have to do is PLAY THE GAME!! It isn't hard to just play through the story line and sell the drops you get. I know for a fact that the money you get from just playing the game is enough to get you a full set of 15k armor. I've managed to buy 5 sets of 15k armor just by playing through the game.

So don't hand me or anyone else here any BS that you can't make any money for your 15k armor because you don't have time to farm.
Ok so SHOW ME. I have been playing since GW came out. I know how to sell and salvage and all that crap and I don't make all that money.

So maybe you are brilliant and I am a retard. If it's that easy grow some f***ing cojones and log on and show me something that I haven't learned in the years I've been playing.

If anyone has the guts to stop blabbing and log on and show me I promise I will come back on and publicly apologize

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[QUOTE=explodemyheart] Some people have more pressing financial issues than to buy gold for a video game, other people that play are teenagers and don't have access to purchasing funds (uh, you know, a credit card?). There's any number of reasons why it is not possible to for one to purchase gold. QUOTE]

Great! Then they can farm and quit worrying about how I get MY money.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Runner
Or perhaps she doesnt want to waste her time explaining how to farm when its obvious the Op has not even tried to look around for a farming build. Especially considering hes an ele.
HE is a SHE and I have MANY other chars...

would you like to meet them?

*Gem*

*Gem*

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
OH yea..one other thing. To the people complaining about not having money to buy plat...I have an idea..why don't you get a better job. Go back to school get that degree...quit the 22k a year 7-11 clerk.

Instead of taking all of your time farming your plat maybe you can use that time and save up your REAL money
You sir are unbelieveable. In the words of the people of guru.

GTFO.

explodemyheart

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Indiana

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
Way to NOT step up to the plate...lol
I'm not stepping up to the plate because it is not my responsibility to prove anything. Perhaps some day soon I will run a character through EotN and keep a list of every drop I get and how much it sells for, but I most certainly am not going to play the game with someone this unpleasant just to prove what I already know. That is not what I find enjoyable.

For the record, I am not the first person to claim that you can make decent money this way. In fact, a few people have already done experiments and made posts about the results. Search if you like. When my boyfriend is on tomorrow, perhaps I will send him in your direction to tell you of his experiences also. He took his paragon through EotN along with mine, purchased cap sigs regularly, and still came out with 17k when all was said and done.

kobey

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GW GF
Well I'm still on GW waiting for some of the money making geniuses to PM me and actually show me how you can make money in a short amount of time.

All talk and NO action.. seriously.. somebody log on and show me.

PM Me my name is Dea Atai.
I actually thought your topic is a good one for discussion, to be honest. However it seems to me that your attitude towards comments lead to the way the thread turn out.

Let me explain to you something very simple: If everyone is rich, then in the end, everything becomes expensive and eventually no one is rich (relatively). So basically, the poorer you are, the richer I am. So if I have a "get rich quick" method, I am very unlikely to share it with you. But then again, most method of getting golds aren't that much of a secret. It just takes some effort to research and some time to practice. You actually don't need much skills to get rich.

DivineEnvoy

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In all honesty, this isn't the first thread someone made intentionly into asking the forum community ways to become wealthy in the game, and it certainly won't be the last.

Nonetheless, why do these threads always made in such a manner that's so babaric? For example, insulting Anet or suggesting Anet to sell gold. Even so, the OP usually end up flaming the community or being rude. Wouldn't it be more logical to ask nicely?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Runner
Or perhaps she doesnt want to waste her time explaining how to farm when its obvious the Op has not even tried to look around for a farming build. Especially considering hes an ele.
That's a GREAT point!! Let's talk about the thousands of players who play this game who *gasp* don't come to this website! Let's take a second to think about all of the players who bought their GW Factions and their GW Factions Official Guidebook and have no idea that there's a way to make money by building a very specific 55 monk build that can solo all of the hi-level areas of the game. What about them?? Oh ya...they all quit and never bought anything from Arenanet again...

*Gem*

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Must.....resist......lolcat.

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Here's the thing. There are games out there where you can spend money and buy in game items. They're called Item Mall games and I would like to direct you here: http://gmtristan.com/the-future-of-m...-or-item-mall/

I think Min Kim from Nexon sums up GW GF's point to a tee.

Breakfast Mc Rit

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Just play the game, sell everything you can. I've seen players leave gold on the ground just because it was only 30gp, or they leave items behind because they don't sell at 20+gp. I rarely ever farm and I've got some nice items and runes for my characters.

I think that it does sound like GW just isn't the game for you. I don't know how you spend your money that you don't have enough for some items, but just playing through a campaign or working on your Cartography title can net a good chunk of platinum. Neither of the two takes hours of your time to do, you can take it at a slower pace.

If you want an example, clear out one section of the map yourself.

GW GF

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DivineEnvoy
In all honesty, this isn't the first thread someone made intentionly into asking the forum community ways to become wealthy in the game, and it certainly won't be the last.

Nonetheless, why do these threads always made in such a manner that's so babaric? For example, insulting Anet or suggesting Anet to sell gold. Even so, the OP usually end up flaming the community or being rude. Wouldn't it be more logical to ask nicely?
I think that you ar right and my attitude has been less than good because people have come on and suggested that I'm not a good player and that it just takes a few simple things to make money. It really doesn't and I've been playing for a long time. I'm not stupid, but I do have a temper.. sorry and I do get mad.

I just am making a simple suggestion for anet. I like to play but don't have more than 2 hours a day at most. I don't think that you should have to play any game more than that to have fun and to have top notch equipment.

Anet has a problem, which is people selling gold on ebay. I am solving their problem. 1) you have time and no money, therefore you farm and make money or 2) You have money and no time and buy gold from anet to enjoy the game more

ok someone is pming me now on gw yay!!! brb

EPO Bot

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The main reason why some people want to buy gold is because they are interested in end game content and end game content only. It's something that was in Diablo, and it's in GW too with it's "pro runner to Droks" scene.

*Gem*

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Prophecies doesn't really have end game content.

kobey

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Actually I kinda listened to both side of the arguements before for whether gold buying is good or bad. imo, there isn't anything wrong with gold buying. Some people want to enjoy the game but do not have time to do so (work commitment). And to be honest, farming your boss in real life (and converting that salary into GW gold) is much more effective than any sort of farming in game

Breakfast Mc Rit

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
That's a GREAT point!! Let's talk about the thousands of players who play this game who *gasp* don't come to this website! Let's take a second to think about all of the players who bought their GW Factions and their GW Factions Official Guidebook and have no idea that there's a way to make money by building a very specific 55 monk build that can solo all of the hi-level areas of the game. What about them?? Oh ya...they all quit and never bought anything from Arenanet again...
It doesn't take coming to this site to learn about the 55 monk build. People talk about it ALL the time in-game. The person that doesn't hear about it or look into it very likely doesn't care about the more expensive gear, they just want to play the game.

Free Runner

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
That's a GREAT point!! Let's talk about the thousands of players who play this game who *gasp* don't come to this website! Let's take a second to think about all of the players who bought their GW Factions and their GW Factions Official Guidebook and have no idea that there's a way to make money by building a very specific 55 monk build that can solo all of the hi-level areas of the game. What about them?? Oh ya...they all quit and never bought anything from Arenanet again...
But the OP is on this forum so why would that matter? why would we be talking about the *gasp* thousands of other players when my comment was obviously directed at the OP? can you please take Gems advice?

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Originally Posted by kobey
Actually I kinda listened to both side of the arguements before for whether gold buying is good or bad. imo, there isn't anything wrong with gold buying. Some people want to enjoy the game but do not have time to do so (work commitment). And to be honest, farming your boss in real life (and converting that salary into GW gold) is much more effective than any sort of farming in game
ROFLMAO!! I am SO farming my boss on Monday!! And I got the perfect build for it...

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BS in LifeSciences (must have to spam)

Avarre

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Why are people saying 'Guild Wars isn't the game for you' to the OP?

ANet selling gold is exactly in line with Guild Wars. It says clearly that time isn't a factor towards having gear, and that grind for equipment is being removed. Farming, grinding, and having lots of gold are the things that Guild Wars isn't the game for.

ModTerrik

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Originally Posted by Free Runner
But the OP is on this forum so why would that matter? why would we be talking about the *gasp* thousands of other players when my comment was obviously directed at the OP? can you please take Gems advice?
Because this just isn't about her (OP). This is about ALL GW players. My guess is there would be a lot more than 7 districts in LA if all the people who've played this game and quit out of frustration had never quit to begin with.

Your comment was faulty and I'm pointing out the flaw in your logic.

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Originally Posted by GW GF
Well no sh** shirlock. Sorry I didn't mean for this post to get unfriendly but I'm not a f***ing moron. This is what I've been doing for the past few years.
You're not a moron, but you want to ruin the game by buying gold so you can get whatever you want

RPGmaniac

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Why are people saying 'Guild Wars isn't the game for you' to the OP?

ANet selling gold is exactly in line with Guild Wars. It says clearly that time isn't a factor towards having gear, and that grind for equipment is being removed. Farming, grinding, and having lots of gold are the things that Guild Wars isn't the game for.
For optimal equipment, yes. But for the shiny stuff, you gotta put some more effort into getting the money for it. As opposed to the games like WoW where you have to work for months to have optimal gear.

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Originally Posted by Jamster
You're not a moron, but you want to ruin the game by buying gold so you can get whatever you want
Yes and that would be wrong how? In real life I get what I can afford too...sometimes it's a Big Mac and sometimes it's a Bleu Cheese crusted Filet with a side of wasabi mashed potatoes.

kobey

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
ROFLMAO!! I am SO farming my boss on Monday!! And I got the perfect build for it...

Tie of Nooselaying (Cracked armor for 15 seconds)
Shiny Wingtip shoes of Cordovan (5 second blind)
BS in LifeSciences (must have to spam)
Don't overfarm him or he'll stop dropping his gold for ya

Free Runner

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
Because this just isn't about her (OP). This is about ALL GW players. My guess is there would be a lot more than 7 districts in LA if all the people who've played this game and quit out of frustration had never quit to begin with.

Your comment was faulty and I'm pointing out the flaw in your logic.
The exact post you quoted was directed at and ONLY at the OP's problem. This thread became less and less about selling money through the ingame store and more about how the op can make money (half of her posts have been asking people to come ingame and show her how to farm). Pretty much all your posts have been faulty.

Also at the OP: Start by looking here

RPGmaniac

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Originally Posted by kobey
Don't overfarm him or he'll stop dropping his gold for ya
At that point you just move on to a new area

ModTerrik

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Originally Posted by kobey
Don't overfarm him or he'll stop dropping his gold for ya
Ya..that's be just my luck..the EVP would nerf him to drop only 25% of the time...

explodemyheart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Why are people saying 'Guild Wars isn't the game for you' to the OP?

ANet selling gold is exactly in line with Guild Wars. It says clearly that time isn't a factor towards having gear, and that grind for equipment is being removed. Farming, grinding, and having lots of gold are the things that Guild Wars isn't the game for.
Perhaps, however buying gold from Anet is not how the game currently works. If having shiny items is what she finds fun and slowly saving up money for the items she wants or farming money for the items she wants is not what she considers fun, then currently GW may not be the game for her. Until Anet changes it, those are the options.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
Great! Then they can farm and quit worrying about how I get MY money.
There is a very good reason why people should worry how you are getting your money. GW has a player-driven economy. This means that every single item in the game is set a certain value according to the players. Even crappy white and blue items have a value set by the people; that is they have no value, so there's no point in trying to sell them to anyone but the merchant. So people should worry about how others are getting their money, especially if Anet ever started generating gold for those who can afford it, because the more gold there is floating around out there, the more items are going to cost.

Look at it like this. Say about a quarter of the entire GW community goes and buys as much gold as they want from Anet. They all decide "Hell, I have plenty of gold. Time to start filling up my Hall of Monuments, getting those things that I couldn't afford before. Full set of destroyer weapons and all 15k armour sets, here I come!" That quarter of the community goes and buys as much of the materials as they need from the materials trader. Already, 10 bolts of cloth have risen in price to what ectos were at before people get could money in the blink of an eye.

Then that quarter of the community decides to do that for each one of their characters. They can afford it, right? Sure, they have to buy more gold, but they have a job and a credit card. What's a couple of bucks when they can have all their characters decked out in FoW armour, with full Halls of Monuments.

I'm sure you can see where I'm going with the materials example. You can imagine similar scenarios for other gold-related aspects of the game. Basically, you end up with those people who have great jobs that pay enough to finance them in a virtual world controlling the economy, and then you have normal players who have to farm non-stop for three weeks just to get enough money to buy the materials needed for armour in Lion's Arch.

ModTerrik

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Originally Posted by Free Runner
This thread became less and less about selling money through the ingame store and more about how the op can make money (half of her posts have been asking people to come ingame and show her how to farm).
That would be because everyone was telling her to stop ruining their whole existence in playing this game and just learn how to farm.

I think there's a better way...let people who want to buy gold buy it. It's all about choice. Have it your way as the ad says...

GW GF

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Ok I'm back.. some very nice person here (who shall remain nameless) came on to show me how to make money and in our time playing we made all of 25 gold.

No I don't want to farm and that's my point. I want to play and have fun in the 2 hours a day that I have to play. I don't want to feel like there are things in the game that I can never acheive because I have to work. Just like some players don't want to worry that I will come on and buy what they can't afford... it's the same idea.

Does that make sense without being rude? All I'm saying is that let's make anet some money and make it even between players that have and don't have jobs.

ModTerrik

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Axe
There is a very good reason why people should worry how you are getting your money. GW has a player-driven economy. This means that every single item in the game is set a certain value according to the players. Even crappy white and blue items have a value set by the people; that is they have no value, so there's no point in trying to sell them to anyone but the merchant. So people should worry about how others are getting their money, especially if Anet ever started generating gold for those who can afford it, because the more gold there is floating around out there, the more items are going to cost.

Look at it like this. Say about a quarter of the entire GW community goes and buys as much gold as they want from Anet. They all decide "Hell, I have plenty of gold. Time to start filling up my Hall of Monuments, getting those things that I couldn't afford before. Full set of destroyer weapons and all 15k armour sets, here I come!" That quarter of the community goes and buys as much of the materials as they need from the materials trader. Already, 10 bolts of cloth have risen in price to what ectos were at before people get could money in the blink of an eye.

Then that quarter of the community decides to do that for each one of their characters. They can afford it, right? Sure, they have to buy more gold, but they have a job and a credit card. What's a couple of bucks when they can have all their characters decked out in FoW armour, with full Halls of Monuments.

I'm sure you can see where I'm going with the materials example. You can imagine similar scenarios for other gold-related aspects of the game. Basically, you end up with those people who have great jobs that pay enough to finance them in a virtual world controlling the economy, and then you have normal players who have to farm non-stop for three weeks just to get enough money to buy the materials needed for armour in Lion's Arch.
Great example...Well thought out and valid.

Once again, Anet can control this by charging the "correct" amount of real money for gold. This isn't the US Economy we're talking about here...

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Originally Posted by explodemyheart
Perhaps, however buying gold from Anet is not how the game currently works. If having shiny items is what she finds fun and slowly saving up money for the items she wants or farming money for the items she wants is not what she considers fun, then currently GW may not be the game for her. Until Anet changes it, those are the options.
This is why I am making a suggestion... because me quitting GW isn't in anets best interest. Because I have 15 chars and have everything that GW has come out with. Just a suggestion and I don't know why you are so anxious to see me run out of GW.

Try to see my point just for 3 seconds. I don't have time because I work a lot. I do love to play. I see players that have unlimited time to play and that will always have better equipment/runes/etc than me. Other people buy gw gold from ebay and the reason why is what I've just described. I'm just talking about a way to keep the money to the people that deserve it.

kobey

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GW GF
Ok I'm back.. some very nice person here (who shall remain nameless) came on to show me how to make money and in our time playing we made all of 25 gold.

No I don't want to farm and that's my point. I want to play and have fun in the 2 hours a day that I have to play. I don't want to feel like there are things in the game that I can never acheive because I have to work. Just like some players don't want to worry that I will come on and buy what they can't afford... it's the same idea.

Does that make sense without being rude? All I'm saying is that let's make anet some money and make it even between players that have and don't have jobs.
In the past, you can do it the illegal way. Now, I don't think you can do it without risking being banned.

Well the good thing is that you can be effective without spending too much time in the game as compared to other games. But to be "leet" or shiny, probably you need to work for it. Or you can work something out with your guildies or friends. I know of a guildie in my previous guild that kinda off load his gw gold and ectos to his friend who can't commit that much time in game.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GW GF
Try to see my point just for 3 seconds. I don't have time because I work a lot. I do love to play. I see players that have unlimited time to play and that will always have better equipment/runes/etc than me. Other people buy gw gold from ebay and the reason why is what I've just described. I'm just talking about a way to keep the money to the people that deserve it.
I do see your point actually. People do have a life and commitment out of GW and they too, want to have nice stuffs in gw but just can't spare the time to do so. I guess Anet wants to reward the players based on time, effort and skills. So if they do sell gold online, they are spoiling the game for many people who do spend alot of time and effort playing and learning the game.

Perhaps if you also put yourself in the shoe of someone who have spent alot of time learning the game and working towards his r12 eternal blade. He probably felt cheated and unfairnly treated if he realized someone else got a r9 with 0.001% of his time and effort.

ModTerrik

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Quote:
Originally Posted by explodemyheart
Perhaps, however buying gold from Anet is not how the game currently works. If having shiny items is what she finds fun and slowly saving up money for the items she wants or farming money for the items she wants is not what she considers fun, then currently GW may not be the game for her. Until Anet changes it, those are the options.
Not necessarily about shiny items. Take my example. I have 14 characters on one account..I like to try out new characters and builds and play "Barbie" as one poster so eloquently put it.

But, to make these new builds I need skills, to try out all of the stupid (and not so stupid) builds in here and in pvxwiki. I need lots o skills and I may not want to (or have) the 6 months it would take to get to that particular boss for that particular skill to find out whether or not this is a build for me. So I buy tomes..which are expensive VERY expensive if you want to try a multitude of Monk or Ele builds. Sure I could try PvP to see how they work...providing I don't mind getting smoked and honestly we all know that PvP is VERY different from PvE...heh I would LOVE to see a 55 monk in PvP.

It's probably my ADD talking but I would love to see ANet start selling gold right up besides all of those extra character slots I've bought.

ON an aside..My opinion should count for more than other people's...I've spent more money with GW than most people..thus as one of their "best" customers I should get preferential treatment heh heh...

GW GF

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik

ON an aside..My opinion should count for more than other people's...I've spent more money with GW than most people..thus as one of their "best" customers I should get preferential treatment heh heh...
ROFLMAO... good point.. any other place you go if you spend more money you get treated well... maybe anet are a bunch of communists. just kidding but that's how I feel sometimes

DivineEnvoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Me/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by GW GF
This is why I am making a suggestion... because me quitting GW isn't in anets best interest. Because I have 15 chars and have everything that GW has come out with. Just a suggestion and I don't know why you are so anxious to see me run out of GW.
A lot more people will quit if Anet sells gold. That isn't the best interest either, and I'm sure Anet won't give up a forest for a tree. Knowing this, don't you see why many of us are so anxious about your suggestion as this suggestion will make us quit the game?

GW GF

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey

But to be "leet" or shiny, probably you need to work for it.
This is my point. I picture "leet" players as some guy who lives in his mom's basement who barely scraped up the cash to buy the game in the first place... someone who has 26 hours a day to play and spending hours grinding.

If gaming wants to expand beyond this stereotype.. and yes it is the stereotype even though it's not always true, then there HAS to be ways to balance out the time factor.

We will all benefit when gaming expands to include more people and not just those that have time to grind.