GW PLEASE take my money..

Actually..money CAN buy anything. In fact if you price the gold correctly in GW, we can make sure that only the rich can afford to buy gold, thus protecting the "time farmers" accomplishments.

You are totally right.. but I feel like I was attacked and yes she started it but ok I fed right into it.

I will be nicer. :-)

Perfect! Work for that goal! What goal are you going for?

Yes, her point is that farming (for her) is not fun and that's fine. So people are giving alternatives to farming, which is to actually play the game normally. And I say that you can "play the game normally" and still make money. She said that she doesn't want to play for hours and hours just to make a few plat. If I can get 367g in 8 minutes and drops kept up at the same rate, I could make 1k in under 30 minutes. That is not hours and hours of playing for a few plat AND it is playing the game regularly, which is supposedly how the OP has fun.

Um.. no. I just want money and fun. Is there anything wrong with that? I don't like to farm and am willing to pay for gold. That's all. I would like to buy it from anet so I don't risk getting banned. I will buy it from them. They make money and I get what I want. Isn't that what capitalism is all about?

LAZY BUGGER, don't play a game if you DO NOT INTENT TO PLAY IT in the first place. why play, go buy it off someone who has done all the 4 campaigns. and completed all the titles.

that would actually saves you alot of time to make more money in real life instead of posting on a forum, then you can buy 10 fully completed GW account, with full armors and everything.

Actually, the effort to make REAL money was probably much more than the effort to play a video game. So if you want to base the game around level of effort, I think the real cash player wins hands down (unless your a drug dealer, that's like getting money for standing on a corner...or convenience store clerk..those guys have a cake job)

OK So Call me lazy for having a job....

Wait.. I said I wasn't going to be rude to those that are rude first. Yikes this is tough.

Do you have a job pumpkin pie or are you a full time GW player?

Calling someone LAZY because they want to spend REAL MONEY doofus, not time is idiotic. She spent lots of time and REAL work to get that money. /ignore

Except that ms. explode my heart has been rude to me from her first post and then refused my multiple requests to take me farming.

Sorry sweetie that you are not the only girl that plays GW. and if that's your picture than you are definitely not the cutest.

OK that was bitchy and rude but I'm tired and sick of you. Come play with me and show me all of your supposed lucky drops or STFU

Actually there are many reasons to play a game. Some play it for titles, some for competitive reasons (pvp), some to enjoy the plot/story, some to collect nice weapons.

The OP seems to like to have nice weapons/ armors but cannot find the time to farm hours each day (after work) and finally get that one weapon after a month. I believe what he is looking for is an alternative to farming. Which he has suggested, Anet to sell gold.

Its actually not a totally bad idea. There are pros and cons to this suggestion.

heres the difference, the person who puts effort into earning gold can use it in game only.

Real money can be spent on things outside the game...

Now Anet has games for you people who want to purchase things with real money ...my advice go play those games.

good night all , its a pointless thread that will never be realized but i give you points for effort.

Please show me where I was rude at all to you in the post you just quoted? In addition, please point out where I claimed to be the only girl that played GW and where I suggested that I was cute at all, let alone the cutest?

It's funny, in all of this time you've spent bitching about how you can't make money, you could have been making money.

why in gods name would they do this
so no-lifers can have even bigger e-peens?
obby armors would be cheapest of all and all other things will go down in price

Thank you Kobey. I wish all posters including myself were as nice and as sensible as you.

PS. I'm not a he

OK, I'm going to find a solution to this. A lot of you are complaining that if ANet starts selling gold you'll quit because:

1. Teh economy will be wrecked.
A. How much are you willing to farm to get that stack of satin for your whatever...4 hours? 5 hours? Once we have a good idea of how much time Anet can suck out of you we'll be able to set a "good" price for selling gold

2. Next they'll be selling titles and crap
A. Right, just like we allow gay marriage, next people will want to marry their dog and their toaster. The above post is a what if, is completely irrelevent and off-topic

3. Umm what was 3 again? I will be bitter that my FoW armor can be bought for $300.
A. There's still something to be said for having $300 armor. In fact, I would be MORE proud of my armor if I knew it cost $300 to buy and I got it for free. (well obviously not free, a lot of time went into getting that FOW armor) In fact if you took the total time trying to get the armor and converted that to your hourly wage...you would probably have been better off just buying it ..heh..go figure.

Consider this for a moment, how do you enjoy playing the game?

Is it playing through quests and missions, teaming up with others to tackle bosses? Struggle and battle through adversity to finally overcome that elite dungeon or area? Jump into some GvG and become engaged in a battle of teamwork and strategy? All this while(with the exception of PvP), you also have the mentality of earning some income. It provides another incentive to do those quests, vanquish those areas, and defeat those dungeons.

The idea with "elite items"(at least to me) is that you do your normal playing (no farming necessary!) collect your drops and gradually make up a sum of money large enough to earn your great looking items. Now, I don't mean to jump on the "No farming! bandwagon" but it really is true , farming isn't necessary to accrue a sizable amount of gold. If you go out and do say, consulate docks in Nightfall. Assuming you complete the bonus as well and this is your first time in the mission, you earn 450g, with the number of enemies killed in that mission you should also get at least ~300-500g in drops. Suddenly in the 20 minutes it took you to do that mission, you have earned about ~750-950g in 20 minutes. Thats by no means spectacular but suddenly consider if you play 1 or 2 hrs a day. That equates to ~2500-5000g in that 1 or 2 hrs of play. 2500g is certainly enough to fund basic needs such as id kits, a couple of runes, things you need to play the game. If you save that money you'll have a sizeable amount in no time.

All this time you've been playing the game, you've also had a secondary goal in mind where you're earning this gold to try and buy nice looking items. Its another incentive to play, giving more meaning to the things you're doing in game.


Now consider if you buy your gold through anet and suddenly you have enough to afford all the elite items you could ever want. Well what do you do after you have these items? You go out and play quests/missions/dungeons/vanquishing/etc. However you don't have that secondary incentive of trying to save up for some kind of item or hunt for some rare drop where you hope to get lucky. "I can just buy all the items I want because I have all this gold I paid for!"

You don't think the game loses some meaning when you have all the items you could ever want just by typing in some credit card numbers in a split second? Suddenly questing and killing monsters begins to become repetitious, I mean I'm not doing this to earn any income... I've already got all the gold I could want.

Sure you'll say its to enjoy the gameplay but, at least this is how it would be for me, is it would definately lose ALOT of replay value. Why am I doing this quest for the 10th time on another character? I already know whats going to happen, I already know the exact strategy, time and skills to easily and efficiently complete the quest.

Well if I'm also trying to buy something nice, that quest has some extra meaning, its also, I'm earning some loot while killing these guys. Its not just me killing for the sake of killing.


All of this is just my opinion though... but personally for me, earning gold while questing is just another incentive to do those quests. If I already have all the items I want, once I've beaten all the gameplay what is left for me to do? I have all the items I want, repeating Frost Gate, or Vizunah square or Augry Rock for the 5th, 6th or 7th time on a different character just lost alot of incentive for me.

Well you cant buy it from Anet, cos they dont sell it.
So rather than spend time pissing and moaning in here that you are poor because you cannot be bothered to put the effort in, that time could have been better spent , playing the game or...wait for it, by applying yourself a little and try to earn some your self.

If you want anything in this life you have to work for it, Guild Wars merely reflects this principle.
Get over it.

A lot of the people that have a lot of GW money do have jobs as well or go to school even, they've just been goal oriented and bought nothing but the essentials until they got what they wanted.

And from your posts, you seem like you want Anet to charge large sums of money for gold if they do sell it. This would, however, be very bad for a large portion of the player base, examples being college students and teenagers.

Telling someone to take their toys and go home is not rude?

Sorry.. I've played with tons of very nice guys and every single girl I've ever met in GW has been rude.

I"ve asked you REPEATEDLY to make up and be nice and you still aren't.

So I'm not being nice and I'm actually going to pay no attention to what you say unless you apologize and/or go farming with me for like 10 minutes.

I will start by being the bigger person. I'm sorry for being a bitch. Take it or leave it. IF you take it then lets start over by being nice. If you leave it then go to a different thread.

lolwut?

GTFO Troll

Can I just buy the points directly?

Off course I have a job, why do you ask? you posting from your company computer?

I work and take care of a full household for your information. that's more works than you would dream of doing.

and I play GW "FAIRLY" without shortcut. (ahem take my money please ahem)


Edit: someone says they wanted guild wars gold to buy skills so that they can test build, let me get this straight, without playing the game and not getting any skill points, even if you have the gold you can't get the skill. both progress simultaneously so quit bullshitting.

Edit 2: PS to GW GF, Lazy bugger was not directed at you btw. you've got to read your thread.

Im sorry, I'm old and my 1337 speak is a little out of date. I got the lol, but lolwut? and what is GTFO...go to f'ing...O?

OK valid point. I see what you are saying even though I don't agree

Why are we talking about real life jobs here? Last time I checked, Guild Wars is a video game; why are people trying to prove that they are superior simply because they have a job, especially on a forum that's about a video game?

Ok so wait...you're saying that GW takes more effort than a real job? You must be a convenience store clerk.

I don't think he's a troll.. read his other posts, they are rational and intelligent

Not to mention hiper-mega-ultra inflation. You know, in my country, in early 80's - 90's people didn't have much. Money, everyday items, food, water, cars. Why? Stupid post-communistic government was broke... Country was broke. Why again? Because after so many wars, we must have paid for repairs, for destroyed building etc. So what did our GREAT government do? RELEASE MORE MONEY.

And some signs of that stupid, irresponsible, incredible thoughtless action are still visible. So guess what would happen when suddenly hundreds of millions plats were released into the market? The economy would SHATTER. It would be worse than in Germany after 1st war. I remember on our history lesson when our teacher showed me a picture with a little boy next to a huge pile of coins. Too bad that even if he had a lot of money, it was barely enough to buy bread for one week. So to buy something like Armbrace you would have to pay like 100k+200ecto. Do you still think K for real money is good?

Cause someone was saying that People who "time farm" have put in more effort that people who work and have money. I don't know where it was, pg 5 or 6 or something...

Um because I was called a lazy bum for only having a few hours a day at best to play GW.

I could care less what people do in RL. OK you can be homeless and play GW on your laptop all day. I don't care. But I don't think that it's fair that because I am busy that my GW goods aren't as nice as the homeless dude with the laptop. Being able to buy gold would help out the full time workers.. that's all. No offense to anyone at all. (just don't call me lazy!!)

Actually I do. It's a matter of pricing it so that it doesn't flood the market. Would you pay $10 for a plat? 10 plat?

It was putting in more effort into the game, not just generally anywhere. I could go with an argument like I have spent four years into a degree of Engineering, and that's a lot of effort; consequently, I deserve to have this job of being a doctor. Does that sound valid to you? It shouldn't, because the two topics are not related.

Why don't you just spend more time into playing the game and less time into working, if that's what you really want?

The thread degenerated, otherwise it could have had some life as a more serious topic. -.-

1. If Anet were to sell gold, where would they get the gold? Sudden magic money that simply appears, buy it off of player farmers, sweat shop exploitation of their own or off of companies that previously ebayed?

2. I still think that ebay companies would still find a way to undercut Anet's gold selling and the people they already exploit would end up having worse conditions than they probably already do.

Other:
- if this was in sardelac, it would have a /notsigned from me, so far
- thus far, I've agreed with many of Meat Axe's point of view

truthfully, it's not like that at all. In fact that's completely wrong. This thread is about spending money which is received in RL on game items. Then one guy spoke up and said that money effort<time effort spent in game. I let him know that he was incorrect.

Your comparison is apple and oranges.

@OP Because more people would QUIT playing than would be playing buying gold. The whole reason for those of us who are casual no gold buyers to play is to keep the economy low and affordable for the plat we do make in the game. If people like you came in and bought gold at your liesure without worry imagine all price hikes of items and how they would rise since inflation comes from making more gold or bringing more gold into the game as you would suggest. Thus you would just make things harder and harder to aquire and then you'd be paying $40 for 100k instead of $20 and it would just keep climbing as long as people like you kept buying gold. This is suppose to be a game not your life so quit wanting to spend more real life dollars on it. Go buy you some real life stuff wit it. <grin>

Yes I totally agree.. probably in part due to my low tolerance of getting personally attacked. I really wish I were better at taking insults and ignoring them. *sigh*

To answer the above questions, here's what I think
1. Anet would just make the gold like they make the existing gold in GW. The game would remain the same, you would just have the option to pay real money for gold in the store.

2. Yes, the companies would probably try to undercut, but the majority of players wouldn't pay it due to fear of their account being banned. I've put so many hours into my chars that I wouldn't risk losing them just to buy cheap gold.

I think that the suggestion to sell it at the store is valid and a good money making venture for anet.

I too am old and that isnt leet speak, try to figure it out yourself.
I am done here, arguing with people who are by themselves too lazy to try to attain wealth and also people trying to defend the indefensible, is not a good way to spend a Sunday morning.


PS. Convenience store clerk?

LMAO

Dont base everybody else's IQ and employement status on your own. ok .

Who have the most free time to do things like spend 10-12 hours a day playing GW.

I would agree except that (as mentioned earler) people have been buying and selling gold for a while now.. anet is just barely cracking down on it and my guess is that they still don't get everyone.

So.. it's been going on all along, but my suggestion is that anet would make money. The economy wouldn't change because nothing would be different other than that people that would buy gold would just buy it legally rather than illegally.