Tons of people keep calling for a general nerfing to Ursan Blessing. Personally, I don't think that it's necessary to reduce the skill's abilities at all. Instead, perhaps limiting it (and Raven & Volfen, obviously) so that it can only be used in the Norn regions (ie, only in the 6 Far Shiverpeaks explorables and the associated dungeons, and not in the Tarnished Coast, Charr Homelands or anywhere else in Tyria, Elona or Cantha) would be the way to go.
After all, the Blessings are granted by the Norn's totem spirits, not by Dwayna, Balthazar, etc., who are gods that are worshipped pretty much everywhere in the world, so why should they have power outside their home region? True, there'd be plenty of whining, but it'd still be very powerful for a decently-sized region where a fair part of the game takes place, without ruining the balance for the elite areas and the quests for the campaigns.
EDIT: Disclosure - I use Ursan on my main character (a W/R), currently r7. When I'm not using my [[Warrior's Endurance] build to spam [[Power Attack], anyways, or my new [[Dragon Slash] build (just got Factions the other day). And, except for when I LFG'd for the Ring of Fire mission in Prophecies, I've never advertised as an Ursan nor been required (or even asked to) use it by a PUG. So, despite what many seem to claim later on in the thread, I'm not an Ursan hater. The worst you could say is that, after a short period of addiction, I've been going out of my way to not use it, especially in Factions (since I just got it).
Ursan Blessing Nerf Suggestion: Regional Limit
ogre_jd
Tyla
It should be nerfed to the ground.
Not limited.
Mind you, +1 for another Ursan thread.
Not limited.
Mind you, +1 for another Ursan thread.
N1ghtstalker
if you make it bound to the norn regions it's worthless imo ^.~
there are about 5 norn area's and you wanna make it only usable in those area's
lol worst idea ever /notsigned
there are about 5 norn area's and you wanna make it only usable in those area's
lol worst idea ever /notsigned
Mohnzh
/notsigned.
Hardly makes them elite, eh? They may be overpowered, but seriously, who cares? I don't Ursan, but I don't mind it when people do. And it shouldn't be considered imbalanced because the monsters don't have a sense of fairness
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Hardly makes them elite, eh? They may be overpowered, but seriously, who cares? I don't Ursan, but I don't mind it when people do. And it shouldn't be considered imbalanced because the monsters don't have a sense of fairness
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Dronte
/notsigned
no more ursan threads please
no more ursan threads please
Hara Makoto
tbh if this was going to happen it would be a much better idea to limit it to eotn , but having ursan blessing allows you to do so much more , on some professions where you can't do high end otherwise . you have to look at it from that context , and in that way it succeeds , so
/notsign
/notsign
Zydonis
Better to just remove it.
MirkoTeran
/signed. Any nerf to UB is good.
Tokar Terrius
/unsigned
Fed up of hearing about Ursan, either FOR or AGAINST! Just drop it!
Fed up of hearing about Ursan, either FOR or AGAINST! Just drop it!
Taisayacho
/signed.
any nerf-type-thing for ursan is good.
any nerf-type-thing for ursan is good.
Mini Masher
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tbh if this was going to happen it would be a much better idea to limit it to eotn , but having ursan blessing allows you to do so much more , on some professions where you can't do high end otherwise . you have to look at it from that context , and in that way it succeeds , so
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and oh yeah... anything that kills ursan=ftw
Azora
/NOTSIGNED let ursan has it is
Miska Bow
Nerf all ursan thread.
+1 before close
+1 before close
Ctb
Don't care about Ursan, don't care how other people play no matter how stupid and dull I think it is, don't care to see these threads anymore.
/notsigned... duh
/notsigned... duh
Unreal Havoc
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Why can't some professions do high-end areas? Any reasonably competent team of players should be able to organize themselves in such a way that everyone can bring the prof they choose and complete any area imo.
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Hara Makoto
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Originally Posted by Mini Masher
I'm not following your logic here. Why can't some professions do high-end areas? Any reasonably competent team of players should be able to organize themselves in such a way that everyone can bring the prof they choose and complete any area imo.
and oh yeah... anything that kills ursan=ftw |
Super Igor
/notsigned
If you dont whant to run it, dont run it, simple as that, its PvE.
~Super Igor
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If you dont whant to run it, dont run it, simple as that, its PvE.
~Super Igor
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pumpkin pie
Wanders if birthday cupcake can be use with ursan blessing.... interesting
Orange Milk
/signed, any nerf to Ursan is a good nerf
Infact make it so a Zealous Weapon mod has no effect to UB aswell.
I don't Ursan and I don't like being in groups with Ursans because If I wanted to be extreamly bored I'd go watch the grass grow.
Fixed that for ya
Ok then, you could make builds for such proffesions, but I guess is you would rather just hit the easy button.
Infact make it so a Zealous Weapon mod has no effect to UB aswell.
I don't Ursan and I don't like being in groups with Ursans because If I wanted to be extreamly bored I'd go watch the grass grow.
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Originally Posted by hara makoto be my guest for every profession to do high end areas , but for starters ,pvx contains very few builds for things like paragons , dervishes to do the areas in question , and my guild which specialises in high end Ursaning also does not use these sorts of professions in it's Ursaning , hence why ursan is needed |
Ok then, you could make builds for such proffesions, but I guess is you would rather just hit the easy button.
zamial
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I'm not following your logic here. Why can't some professions do high-end areas? Any reasonably competent team of players should be able to organize themselves in such a way that everyone can bring the prof they choose and complete any area imo.
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The problem is: casual players can not do the elite dungeons in under 2 hours without ursan.
The solution: Nerf ursan to to be as usful as the other 2 forms or boost the other 2 to be equal. This will never happen.
so lets all stop the the ursan threads, the only reason to complain about them at all is
1: your norn rank isn't maxed or you don't have EoTN. both of which can be resolved by you.
2: you pug
U
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Such
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Noob
Kthxbye
Ctb
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/stop trying to tell other people how to play. It's their time to waste, let them waste it.
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But that's why I just don't play it...
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Ctb
/stop trying to tell other people how to play. It's their time to waste, let them waste it.
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Orange Milk
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Originally Posted by Ctb Quote: I don't Ursan and I don't like being in groups with Ursans So what you're saying is you have no reason to have an opinion on the matter because it's a portion of the game you don't play. /stop trying to tell other people how to play. It's their time to waste, let them waste it. |
So you quote me and tell me to keep my opinion to myself.
Then you end your post by stating the EXACT same opinion I have.
I can see why you are the only person in your guild. You Fail in many ways.
Ctb
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Originally Posted by Orange Milk
/signed, any nerf to Ursan is a good nerf
Infact make it so a Zealous Weapon mod has no effect to UB aswell. |
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It's always nice to be reminded why I put people on ignore...
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Richardt
This idea has been mentioned before in several threads, and I believe a couple were mentioned here in Sardelac.
Until ANet does something, here's an easy solution-don't use Ursan and don't party with people who would use it.
And if your Guild/Alliance is Ursan heavy, then you should consider switching or organizing non-UB activities.
Until ANet does something, here's an easy solution-don't use Ursan and don't party with people who would use it.
And if your Guild/Alliance is Ursan heavy, then you should consider switching or organizing non-UB activities.
Lycan Nibbler
/ not signed
oh and "yawn"
oh and "yawn"
Orange Milk
ohhh, so you just quoted the wrong sentence, because
You Fail in many ways.
Those people are easy to pick out, they have the guild tag [Glug]
You Fail in many ways.
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romeus petrus
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Ursan is here to stay, live with it.
Close plz, discussed at length many times before.
Ursan is here to stay, live with it.
Close plz, discussed at length many times before.
Darkobra
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Fed up of hearing about Ursan, either FOR or AGAINST! Just drop it! |
Tyla
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be my guest for every profession to do high end areas , but for starters ,pvx contains very few builds for things like paragons , dervishes to do the areas in question , and my guild which specialises in high end missions also does not use these sorts of professions in it's builds , hence why ursan is needed
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And yeah, Ursan isn't needed, it's possible without PvE skills to complete most of this game's things.
Malice Black
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/signed. Any nerf to UB is good.
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Imbagon is just as bad.
Hyp3r
/signed, any nerf to Ursan is a good nerf
Tyla
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Imbagon is just as bad.
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Darkobra
On a side note: Why don't we have a dedicated Ursan thread yet? We get more of these threads than we do "I want a horse to ride to Lion's Arch!"
zamial
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On a side note: "I want a Ursan to ride to anywhere."
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Phoenix Tears
Dead Horse Alarm
Can't see them anymore. Every f*ckign week a new one at least or more of these sooner, up to daily +1 more >.<
LEARN FINALLY TO LIVE WITH UB. ANET WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SKILL, BECAUSE IT IS THEIR WAY TO SOLVE WITH IT 2 OTHER BIG PROBLEMS THE GAME HAD, BEFORE UB EXISTED AND ABOUT THOSE THE COMMUNITY QQ'ed ALOT MORE, SINCE GW EXISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You hate UB ? then god damn IGNORE THE SKILL, DON'T PLAY WITH IT, GIVE IT NO RECOGNITION, SHIT ON YOUR NORN TITLE AND PLAY THE DAMn GAME, HOW YOU WANT IT, BUT DON'T FORCE YOUR RETARDED WILLS ON OTHERS AND TRY TO MOVE ANET TO NERF SOMETHING, THAT NEEDS NO NERF, ONLY BCAUSE YOU HATE PERSONALLY THAT SKILL.
Lots of other players like the Skill, alone this fact is enough, that Anet will not change something drastically on the Skill. UB was from the start on thought out as Skill for casual gamers and those players, which play a profession, that hardly finds pugs. UNDERSTAND THIS FINALLY.
No one forces anyone to play DoA ect. with ursanway, wen you don't want to do it ursan way, then get your god damn guild mates and make a f*cking guild group without a single ursan in it But leave finally this Skill alone and the part of the community, which likes the skill, as it is and stop this ridiculous permanent whining and bitchign about UB.
It gets annoying to see every day pop up here new whine/rant threads about UB. You won't change anythign with them about this Skill and there you can make millions of rant threads about it. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN !!!!
Can't see them anymore. Every f*ckign week a new one at least or more of these sooner, up to daily +1 more >.<
LEARN FINALLY TO LIVE WITH UB. ANET WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SKILL, BECAUSE IT IS THEIR WAY TO SOLVE WITH IT 2 OTHER BIG PROBLEMS THE GAME HAD, BEFORE UB EXISTED AND ABOUT THOSE THE COMMUNITY QQ'ed ALOT MORE, SINCE GW EXISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You hate UB ? then god damn IGNORE THE SKILL, DON'T PLAY WITH IT, GIVE IT NO RECOGNITION, SHIT ON YOUR NORN TITLE AND PLAY THE DAMn GAME, HOW YOU WANT IT, BUT DON'T FORCE YOUR RETARDED WILLS ON OTHERS AND TRY TO MOVE ANET TO NERF SOMETHING, THAT NEEDS NO NERF, ONLY BCAUSE YOU HATE PERSONALLY THAT SKILL.
Lots of other players like the Skill, alone this fact is enough, that Anet will not change something drastically on the Skill. UB was from the start on thought out as Skill for casual gamers and those players, which play a profession, that hardly finds pugs. UNDERSTAND THIS FINALLY.
No one forces anyone to play DoA ect. with ursanway, wen you don't want to do it ursan way, then get your god damn guild mates and make a f*cking guild group without a single ursan in it But leave finally this Skill alone and the part of the community, which likes the skill, as it is and stop this ridiculous permanent whining and bitchign about UB.
It gets annoying to see every day pop up here new whine/rant threads about UB. You won't change anythign with them about this Skill and there you can make millions of rant threads about it. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN !!!!
Tyla
People shouldn't be rewarded for grind anyway, grind shouldn't exist anyway because it's mindnumbingly boring (For me, anyway).
Heck, I wish I came to Guild Wars on release to see it at it's peak...
No titles, PvE-Skills, grind....ahhh
Heck, I wish I came to Guild Wars on release to see it at it's peak...
No titles, PvE-Skills, grind....ahhh
Brian Fellow
I just used Ursan for the first time two days ago while talking on the phone. As a tanking Rit with another tank, my group breezed through Heart of the Shiverpeaks HM dungeon.
Now I feel this skill was made for casual gamers. I mean how else can I talk on the phone for an hour and click away!
Now I feel this skill was made for casual gamers. I mean how else can I talk on the phone for an hour and click away!
Mini Masher
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be my guest for every profession to do high end areas , but for starters ,pvx contains very few builds for things like paragons , dervishes to do the areas in question , and my guild which specialises in high end missions also does not use these sorts of professions in it's builds , hence why ursan is needed
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Steboy93
I would like ursan to be nerfed, but tbh i don't really mind it. It doesn't affect my gameplay in anyway, if you don't like ursan just ignore it, simple as.