most people are tired of hearning about ursan.
Do NOT Discuss!
who cares? if you can make money and titles with it whats your freaking problem kiddo? your worse than monks with roid rage.
Ursan Blessing Nerf Suggestion: Regional Limit
sir fluffums
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by sir fluffums
most people are tired of hearning about ursan.
Do NOT Discuss! who cares? if you can make money and titles with it whats your freaking problem kiddo? your worse than monks with roid rage. |
Also, what makes you think you will tell people what to discuss? Are you someone important or just another carebear with big ego?
You calling others "kiddo" is ohsoironic.
inchoate
What is people's problem with Ursan?
You can't use it in PvP so nobody is complaining from being killed by it. I've not seen a monster yet pull me to one side to complain I'm being unfair.
If you think it's over-powered... Don't use it!
Personally, I don't. I like to play the game with more than 3 attacks to choose from.
You can't use it in PvP so nobody is complaining from being killed by it. I've not seen a monster yet pull me to one side to complain I'm being unfair.
If you think it's over-powered... Don't use it!
Personally, I don't. I like to play the game with more than 3 attacks to choose from.
Taisayacho
The problem with Ursan is that it's so impossible to find a non-guild party if you don't want to use it, inchoate. (or it is imo anyway)
Whisper Evenstar
/notsigned on the idea
/signed on no more ursan threads plz
/signed on no more ursan threads plz
Tyla
Sephir, stop trying. There's no way in the world you can convince them.
BlackSephir
Oh ok.
I guess it's okay if GW 2 will have Carebear Blessing which kills all mobs in the area. After all, you can not use it if you don't like it. What's people's problem with that, huh!?
I guess it's okay if GW 2 will have Carebear Blessing which kills all mobs in the area. After all, you can not use it if you don't like it. What's people's problem with that, huh!?
Tyla
My point is that they won't listen. Don't get me wrong, I'm on the right side of you, but if it's going to be nerfed it would be planned. If not, the carebears get what they want.
Rene Saliere
If you don't want to use Ursan's Blessing you are too smart for Guild Wars - please stop playing - oh wait - you already have! So have I - life is less annoying without the kiddies isn't it?
Aba
Mini Masher
My God is this thread still going....
My problem with Ursan, which I may have said before is simply this; it's akin to setting the difficultly level to "village idiot"; it is mind-numbingly boring to run, and it enables those who play poorly to continue to do so as it doesn't require any actual thought. Before you know it, we will all be surrounded by morons who have no concept of how to create a bar of their own or why said bar would or wouldn't work. Just slap on Ursan and go. Oh wait...
It makes the game really terrible for those of us who actually enjoy a challenge which in my mind was the point of HM.
My problem with Ursan, which I may have said before is simply this; it's akin to setting the difficultly level to "village idiot"; it is mind-numbingly boring to run, and it enables those who play poorly to continue to do so as it doesn't require any actual thought. Before you know it, we will all be surrounded by morons who have no concept of how to create a bar of their own or why said bar would or wouldn't work. Just slap on Ursan and go. Oh wait...
It makes the game really terrible for those of us who actually enjoy a challenge which in my mind was the point of HM.
Stuart444
another Ursan thread...god
all I will say is, Ursan is a move you don't have to use, if people want to use Ursan, let them, it doesn't affect you.
If you can't find people to play with outside of your guild because they ONLY want someone with Ursan then why the hell would you want to play with them.
Play with less idiots I say (btw I use ursan sometimes but I would never try to form a pug with only ursans/monks)
ps. I don't get what the big deal with ursan is, imo, it seems like an overhyped move....then again I am at rank 2 (almost 3) so maybe thats why I have not seen much from it yet.
all I will say is, Ursan is a move you don't have to use, if people want to use Ursan, let them, it doesn't affect you.
If you can't find people to play with outside of your guild because they ONLY want someone with Ursan then why the hell would you want to play with them.
Play with less idiots I say (btw I use ursan sometimes but I would never try to form a pug with only ursans/monks)
ps. I don't get what the big deal with ursan is, imo, it seems like an overhyped move....then again I am at rank 2 (almost 3) so maybe thats why I have not seen much from it yet.
X3R0
You know theres a PUG thread on the forum, so make a thread to get people to join you without Ursan.
Rene Saliere
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It makes the game really terrible for those of us who actually enjoy a challenge which in my mind was the point of HM.
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Note to all those 'Don't use UB!' posters... again... your defence of UB can be used to defend any overpowered skill.
Also, unfortunately, 99% of people don't have the self discipline to handicap themselves with sub-optimal builds and, teams.
Anyway as the older player base leaves Ursan Wars in disgust, the newer players learn nothing, and the whole game degenerates over time, like an old brain with no stimuli.
Is this too difficult to follow?
Note for marketing students out there - unlike Star Wars Galaxies which haemorraged players by allowing anyone to be a Jedi from level 1 in an update, Guild Wars managed to sneak in the same kind of update and lose no money by putting it in the last expansion they released. (No monthly fees you see!) This is very clever!
illidan009
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Originally Posted by Zarn
Please just leave UB alone.... It's a PvE skill... For PvE its worth having some power! If u want to be rid of UB, go perma pvp and stop whining!
/notsigned |
Teh [prefession]-zorz
They wont nerf UB because its the only reason to buy EOTN.
I Will Kill You
/NOTSIGNED
Well there would be no point people raise their Norn Track To use ursan and if you take it to were you could only use it in norn territories there would be no point....ursan is just an over all easy thing to use and limiting it would be limiting the players.....
Well there would be no point people raise their Norn Track To use ursan and if you take it to were you could only use it in norn territories there would be no point....ursan is just an over all easy thing to use and limiting it would be limiting the players.....
I Will Kill You
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Originally Posted by Mini Masher
My God is this thread still going....
My problem with Ursan, which I may have said before is simply this; it's akin to setting the difficultly level to "village idiot"; it is mind-numbingly boring to run, and it enables those who play poorly to continue to do so as it doesn't require any actual thought. Before you know it, we will all be surrounded by morons who have no concept of how to create a bar of their own or why said bar would or wouldn't work. Just slap on Ursan and go. Oh wait... It makes the game really terrible for those of us who actually enjoy a challenge which in my mind was the point of HM. |
ogre_jd
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Originally Posted by I Will Kill You
/NOTSIGNED
Well there would be no point people raise their Norn Track To use ursan and if you take it to were you could only use it in norn territories there would be no point....ursan is just an over all easy thing to use and limiting it would be limiting the players..... |
Airstu
/notsigned QQ somewhere in private and leave us alone
/signed no moar Ursan threads
/signed no moar Ursan threads
fuzzball
/signed KILLING URSAN FTW
/notsigned 97,98,99 ursan forums... i lost count QQ
/notsigned 97,98,99 ursan forums... i lost count QQ
Aldric
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Originally Posted by ogre_jd
Ursan's not the only reason to raise your Norn rank. Plenty of other worthwhile Norn skills - [["I Am The Strongest!"] (my favorite PvE skill, especially for Hammer builds where most +damage would wear out before you get more than a couple of hits in, even with IAS), [["Finish Him!"], [["I Am Unstoppable!"], [["You Move Like a Dwarf!"], [[Feel No Pain], [[A Touch of Guile], and [[Club of a Thousand Bears], for example. And I suppose there are some that feel that [["Dodge This!"] is good, but it's meh to me.
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By all means give UB a double helping of the nerf bat but not via introducing area specific skills
Mini Masher
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Originally Posted by I Will Kill You
K People know how to make a dang build(well some people can) it is just fun to play Ursan they get r10 and it is just a joyride they don't ALWAYS play it.....most things are easier with an ursan build...that is it.....Gosh...
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borik oakwood
People are saying that You can get Rank 10 ursans easy and if you dont want to that your a noob. Thats what annoys me!
neither signed or unsigned i have my own district and i shall keep it that way.
neither signed or unsigned i have my own district and i shall keep it that way.
Bryant Again
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Anyway as the older player base leaves Ursan Wars in disgust, the newer players learn nothing, and the whole game degenerates over time, like an old brain with no stimuli.
Is this too difficult to follow? |
x_fiddle
/signed
I never understood who the hell would look for or enable cheat codes in games, sure its fun for awhile but whats the point without challenge. To me, Ursan has turned into just that, a cheat code for Guild Wars.
Ursan Blessing should be toned down to a viable alternative build rather than the be all end skill for almost every guild wars party.
I never understood who the hell would look for or enable cheat codes in games, sure its fun for awhile but whats the point without challenge. To me, Ursan has turned into just that, a cheat code for Guild Wars.
Ursan Blessing should be toned down to a viable alternative build rather than the be all end skill for almost every guild wars party.
Molock
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
yes, it IS better, you get to choose between 3 builds but you get to choose any class that you want (yes even an assasin, mesmer, ritualist, dervish) instead of having to use monk/ele/necro/warrior which had only 1 build for each that were allowed in party in.
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Tyla
Yeah, but Molock, even the Monks can buttonmash the shit out of their bars and hit Seed spells while targetting the Ursans.
ThibLeGuerrier
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There are many good skills in gw and being powerful is cool, UB is an easy way to reach it, ok maybe it has made noob become good players but I don't care, i'm really taking fun with it and when I see the times ursans (R10+cons...) takes for some elite missions it's so long !!!!!!! Look at DoA for instance, foundry was so long to do before something like 3hours, now you got it in less than 1h running ursan... And they say : "You've been playing for two hours, you should have a break etc..." (?!) It can be even more for some dungeons in HM... So ursan is good for reducing times needed for a "normal team", it also allows many people to contemplates the elite regions of gw and to succeed them.
I love this overpowered skill, UB teams go so fast for killing mobs it's really active you get with three ursans on one aaxte for instance, spike with first skill and aaxte is down ^^.
People also should make the difference between bad ursans and good ursans :
I have a W/R with armor 80 +20 vs physical +10 with stance (or +20vs elemental dmg) and this build when I have +20 ele armor :
[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support][Summon Naga Shaman][Charm Animal][Comfort Animal][Dolyak Signet][Signet of Stamina][Resurrection Signet][/build]
this build when +10 with stance :
[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Drunken Master][Summon Naga Shaman][Charm Animal][Comfort Animal][Dolyak Signet][Signet of Stamina][Resurrection Signet][/build]
I got the black widow, I don't always bring my pet cause if he die, you have +8s reload for skills and you can't rez him as ursan...(also bring pain inverter ehehehh ^^)
Anyway, someone who has not understood the UB technic :
[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Dismember][Critical Chop][Axe Rake][Axe Twist][Flail][Lacerating Chop][Resurrection Signet][/build]
You see that behind UB there is also other skills that goes with it and they shouldn't be forgotten.
There are many good skills in gw and being powerful is cool, UB is an easy way to reach it, ok maybe it has made noob become good players but I don't care, i'm really taking fun with it and when I see the times ursans (R10+cons...) takes for some elite missions it's so long !!!!!!! Look at DoA for instance, foundry was so long to do before something like 3hours, now you got it in less than 1h running ursan... And they say : "You've been playing for two hours, you should have a break etc..." (?!) It can be even more for some dungeons in HM... So ursan is good for reducing times needed for a "normal team", it also allows many people to contemplates the elite regions of gw and to succeed them.
I love this overpowered skill, UB teams go so fast for killing mobs it's really active you get with three ursans on one aaxte for instance, spike with first skill and aaxte is down ^^.
People also should make the difference between bad ursans and good ursans :
I have a W/R with armor 80 +20 vs physical +10 with stance (or +20vs elemental dmg) and this build when I have +20 ele armor :
[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support][Summon Naga Shaman][Charm Animal][Comfort Animal][Dolyak Signet][Signet of Stamina][Resurrection Signet][/build]
this build when +10 with stance :
[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Drunken Master][Summon Naga Shaman][Charm Animal][Comfort Animal][Dolyak Signet][Signet of Stamina][Resurrection Signet][/build]
I got the black widow, I don't always bring my pet cause if he die, you have +8s reload for skills and you can't rez him as ursan...(also bring pain inverter ehehehh ^^)
Anyway, someone who has not understood the UB technic :
[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Dismember][Critical Chop][Axe Rake][Axe Twist][Flail][Lacerating Chop][Resurrection Signet][/build]
You see that behind UB there is also other skills that goes with it and they shouldn't be forgotten.
Mini Masher
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/unsigned
There are many good skills in gw and being powerful is cool, UB is an easy way to reach it, ok maybe it has made noob become good players but I don't care, i'm really taking fun with it and when I see the times ursans (R10+cons...) takes for some elite missions it's so long !!!!!!! Look at DoA for instance, foundry was so long to do before something like 3hours, now you got it in less than 1h running ursan... And they say : "You've been playing for two hours, you should have a break etc..." (?!) It can be even more for some dungeons in HM... So ursan is good for reducing times needed for a "normal team", it also allows many people to contemplates the elite regions of gw and to succeed them... |
To put it another way: easy=boring.
N1ghtstalker
stop whining about ursan
you wanna make ursan less used? buff the other blessings
you wanna make ursan less used? buff the other blessings
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
stop whining about ursan
you wanna make ursan less used? buff the other blessings |
Stop defending ursan just because you suck at pve
Onyx Blindbow
yawn yet another ursan bashing thread, but then there hasn't been one for a week or so
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
yawn yet another ursan bashing thread, but then there hasn't been one for a week or so
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Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Jesus Christ, fixing overpowered skill by making other skills as overpowered as ursan? How stupid can your suggestions be?
Stop defending ursan just because you suck at pve |
Now the PvP'ers complain about overpowered skills that have no affect on PvP and the PvE'ers get their different nerfs. Stop complaining its not going to help (seriously it wont it will just ruin the game). Stop with the ursan threads already...
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
Now the PvP'ers complain about overpowered skills that have no affect on PvP and the PvE'ers get their different nerfs. Stop complaining its not going to help (seriously it wont it will just ruin the game). Stop with the ursan threads already...
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Aba
Well I guess im a moron.....guess i enjoy playing the game more, then complaining about it.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
Now the PvP'ers complain about overpowered skills that have no affect on PvP and the PvE'ers get their different nerfs. Stop complaining its not going to help (seriously it wont it will just ruin the game). Stop with the ursan threads already...
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By the way, alot of PvP'ers PvE too.
achiles the mermedon
What is the point of this thread?
Fairness
Have nothing better to do but start a thread about who cares whther or not they nerf Ursan?
I ask again what is the point. If you think it is overpowered and want more of a challenge then do not use it.
If you think it is nice to have in a certain area then use it.
Anet just buffed a bunch of skills for PVE should we start complaining about those now?
I just do not get people. It is a game. It has its advantages and disadvantages. If you want to take advantage of them then do so if not STHU
Fairness
Have nothing better to do but start a thread about who cares whther or not they nerf Ursan?
I ask again what is the point. If you think it is overpowered and want more of a challenge then do not use it.
If you think it is nice to have in a certain area then use it.
Anet just buffed a bunch of skills for PVE should we start complaining about those now?
I just do not get people. It is a game. It has its advantages and disadvantages. If you want to take advantage of them then do so if not STHU