/yawn
hope this gets closed like the others. wanna get over it?
Ursan Blessing Nerf Suggestion: Regional Limit
Sethellington
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Sethellington
/yawn
hope this gets closed like the others. wanna get over it? |
Seems like it's here to stay. Wanna get over it, carebear?
vixro
Anet isn't stupid most of the time. They know Ursan is overpowered and have left it there. If they didn't intend for it to be so strong, it would have been nerfed a long time ago.
Naga The Apocalypse
thye need to get rid of it
StormDragonZ
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Originally Posted by vixro
Anet isn't stupid most of the time. They know Ursan is overpowered and have left it there.
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Toa Hahli
I find it sad that a lvl 17 wammo with Ursan was chosen over me while i was on my Healer Rit.
/Not signed for a nerf
/signed to Beat it to Death
/Not signed for a nerf
/signed to Beat it to Death
MisterT69
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Originally Posted by MasterSasori
PvP titles are the ultimate symbol of and are quite detested not only in PvE arguably in PvP as well. I think the argument is jealousy but its very likely on the current state of the player. Those who value titles and have plenty of them before UB will be likely to detest UB. Those who have lots of titles post UB will be more ambivalent. Those who want efficient farming will love it. But this is common knowledge. The whole fight on UB being bad or good is based highly on opinion as supporting statements on either side are rather difficult to prove other than those that are based on observation. Even then its correlations. |
Anguish
/Notsigned
Stop with the UB nerfing threads.
Ursan gave every prof in GW a fair chance of getting into groups, and not just the regular and predicted Mo/W/E.
Ursan Blessing is an elite, so of course it should be more useful than regular skills.
Ursan Blessing is a PvE skill - It can be used in PvP, no reason for A.Net to nerf it.
And lastly, if you don't like Ursan, simply don't use it. Don't make bashing threads about Ursan just because your little monk/warrior/ele/necro isn't the first to get into groups.
/Notsigned
Stop with the UB nerfing threads.
Ursan gave every prof in GW a fair chance of getting into groups, and not just the regular and predicted Mo/W/E.
Ursan Blessing is an elite, so of course it should be more useful than regular skills.
Ursan Blessing is a PvE skill - It can be used in PvP, no reason for A.Net to nerf it.
And lastly, if you don't like Ursan, simply don't use it. Don't make bashing threads about Ursan just because your little monk/warrior/ele/necro isn't the first to get into groups.
/Notsigned
odly
The best way to nerf Ursan grouping is to allow heroes to use PvE only skills.
Master Sword Keeper
NO. the only way to finally nerf Ursan is to put a duration on it. for 30secs you take on the aspects of the bear.
Adding a duration for x amount of seconds and adding a LONG recharge like the dervish avatar god skills will finally make ursan extinct but still accessable enough..
Solution: 30sec duration, 45recharge.
Adding a duration for x amount of seconds and adding a LONG recharge like the dervish avatar god skills will finally make ursan extinct but still accessable enough..
Solution: 30sec duration, 45recharge.
NinjaKai
/Signed
From a lore stand point limiting it to Norn area has a lot of sense.
From a lore stand point limiting it to Norn area has a lot of sense.
Sweet Mystery
/notsigned
Too much moaning still.... people need to accept it's there and perhaps play the game and not moan others are playing it how they want to...
Too much moaning still.... people need to accept it's there and perhaps play the game and not moan others are playing it how they want to...
Ben-A-BoO
/notsigned
Just because I am tired of all this Ursan QQ
Just because I am tired of all this Ursan QQ
Div
I'm all for nerfing ursan, but what will the shitty 99% of the population do then? Go back to failing with their obsid tank?
Izzy's clearly scared that nerfing ursan will piss off all the idiots who can't play anything else effectively, so it won't be touched.
Izzy's clearly scared that nerfing ursan will piss off all the idiots who can't play anything else effectively, so it won't be touched.
ogre_jd
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Originally Posted by NinjaKai
/Signed
From a lore stand point limiting it to Norn area has a lot of sense. |
Maria The Princess
well all the discussion shifted to "nerf uran dont nurf ursan QQ" just because by limiting it to norn only territories would make it more nurfed then anything in this game.. people grind for it to use in in fow, uw, doa, vanquishing, hard HM mission etc.
by making it only in norn territory might as well just take it out of the game. there is only 2 (imo) dungeons worth doing in norn territory, and vanq it only takes 1 day max since there are only 3 (right? dont have GW map now) zones.
[edit cuz i hit post too soon]so now.. lets continue the QQ about ursan and +1 posts! if ursan would get nurfed it would get nurfed a long time ago. Anet is interested to keep their clients and especially to make them buy GW2. if they nurf ursan they will loose too much money and if you like it or not, anet is a buisness.
they know whats going on, they know its overpowered, but they need to keep people playing till GW2. people who were doing elite areas before ursan got tired, quit or got banned, now if people who play mesmers, assasins etc never tried DOA before, ursan will keep them around instead of them just quitting saying "im tired of having to hero/hemch and my guild never does anything like it". there are also these people who just play the game without reading forums, so they might just not know the EXACT tank build for DOA, therefor after trying to get into groups and getting laughed at, they will not go back to that elitist crowd.
those people represent the almost majority of players. for anet its more profitable to sell a million of copies of GW2 to all current GW players, rather then 200 copies to the ursan whiners.
by making it only in norn territory might as well just take it out of the game. there is only 2 (imo) dungeons worth doing in norn territory, and vanq it only takes 1 day max since there are only 3 (right? dont have GW map now) zones.
[edit cuz i hit post too soon]so now.. lets continue the QQ about ursan and +1 posts! if ursan would get nurfed it would get nurfed a long time ago. Anet is interested to keep their clients and especially to make them buy GW2. if they nurf ursan they will loose too much money and if you like it or not, anet is a buisness.
they know whats going on, they know its overpowered, but they need to keep people playing till GW2. people who were doing elite areas before ursan got tired, quit or got banned, now if people who play mesmers, assasins etc never tried DOA before, ursan will keep them around instead of them just quitting saying "im tired of having to hero/hemch and my guild never does anything like it". there are also these people who just play the game without reading forums, so they might just not know the EXACT tank build for DOA, therefor after trying to get into groups and getting laughed at, they will not go back to that elitist crowd.
those people represent the almost majority of players. for anet its more profitable to sell a million of copies of GW2 to all current GW players, rather then 200 copies to the ursan whiners.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
they need to keep people playing till GW2.
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Turtle222
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Yes, imagine what would happen if ALL GW players would stop paying monthly fee. /shiver
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/gg
Rhaegor Stormborn
/signed to nerf this spell into the ground.
ogre_jd
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
well all the discussion shifted to "nerf uran dont nurf ursan QQ" just because by limiting it to norn only territories would make it more nurfed then anything in this game..
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Mad King Corn
/notsigned
Why is so difficult for the people crying about this P V E skill, to simply not use it?
Why is so difficult for the people crying about this P V E skill, to simply not use it?
bel unbreakable
because some one else will and they dont like it one bit
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Mad King Corn
/notsigned
Why is so difficult for the people crying about this P V E skill, to simply not use it? |
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Kyubbi
stop QQing and learn to live with it lol if you dont like it then dont use it
Maria The Princess
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Yes, imagine what would happen if ALL GW players would stop paying monthly fee. /shiver
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and if choose not to play cuz of anger cuz anet gave them cake (ursan) which was letting them enjoy the 100% of the game instead of what they had before ursan (where only the trinity was allowed), just to take it away, they are 0% to 5% likely to buy GW2.
make the math and see why they need to keep people playing.
Clarissa F
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
I'm all for nerfing ursan, but what will the shitty 99% of the population do then? Go back to failing with their obsid tank?
Izzy's clearly scared that nerfing ursan will piss off all the idiots who can't play anything else effectively, so it won't be touched. |
The only way to get away from Ursan in elite areas is to either get with guildies/friends that share your hate for the Bear.....
...or play another game. Might be a good time to check those out.
And no, my stuff is already going to someone.
"...and when everyone is special...no one will be special!"
pakhavit
I think eotn pve Skill should Not be allow in hard mode ^^
but that wouldn't be fair to new player =/
but that wouldn't be fair to new player =/
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
and if choose not to play cuz of anger cuz anet gave them cake (ursan) which was letting them enjoy the 100% of the game instead of what they had before ursan (where only the trinity was allowed), just to take it away, they are 0% to 5% likely to buy GW2. |
Let's do the math!
Ursan, imbagon, monk- any other class and build = gtfo
Yeah, lot's of difference
ScoobyDooby Dooo
It's all well and good saying if you dont like it dont use it, but 9/10 times the party is looking for r10ursan which dfeats the object of having to run nothing but ursan, ill tell ya what be a good idea ping a ursan build show them r10 ursan and load a new build HAHA then go play your style.
Maria The Princess
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Wow, so it's better now than when trinity only was allowed.
Let's do the math! Ursan, imbagon, monk- any other class and build = gtfo Yeah, lot's of difference |
remember spaming in ToA saying "SF ele LFG" and you knu if you tried swaping your elite for another you would have no chance of getting in a party. then you get finally in a party, and after 20 mins of preparation you get kicked cuz an ele from someones guild is coming and they dont want too many ele's cuz theres an SS missing. well now its much less time wasting which is GOOD considering some people cant really afford getting ready for a mission for 1 hour and then beating it 3 hours. this is also the reason why people will not giveup ursan.
build wise hasn't changed much, but we get to choose class at least. and before replying you might wanna read my post and the previous one properly. they explain very well why ursan is here to stay.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
yes, it IS better, you get to choose between 3 builds but you get to choose any class that you want (yes even an assasin, mesmer, ritualist, dervish) instead of having to use monk/ele/necro/warrior which had only 1 build for each that were allowed in party in.
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Nothing's changed, except for implementing ridiculously overpowered skill.
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Maria The Princess
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Bwahhahah, how can I choose between 3 builds if I'm playing an assassin? It's either Ursan or gtfo. No one will accept Blossom Spammer sin, because it's not ursan.
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1-revive pugs, keep people playing instead of them saying "ok i beat the last mission, now lets go play wow.
2-give every single class a chance to complete their HOM
a person who leaves a game also influences his/her friends to follow to a new game, why woult they want to loose a big chunk of their clients?
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
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Now it's Ursans and HB Monks.
Heck, variables could be ran on the majority of professions. Tanking Ranger in The Deep? Stances.
Heck, I even recently ran an Earth Shaker Ranger in a DoA Balanced run, it didn't work as well as a Warrior ES, but it still did a whole lot of good.
Apart from the huge hex stacking at the Gloom Cave.
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
they don't and will never do (hopefully) but if while playing GW1 they are 90% likely to buy GW2, if they get bored of GW1 and move on to a different game they are only 20% likely to buy GW2
and if choose not to play cuz of anger cuz anet gave them cake (ursan) which was letting them enjoy the 100% of the game instead of what they had before ursan (where only the trinity was allowed), just to take it away, they are 0% to 5% likely to buy GW2. make the math and see why they need to keep people playing. |
Maria The Princess
the entire time im playing, i ran into these PUGs only a few times.
when i wanted to do the deep on my ranger, i spamed for HOURS for a group. the only group that actually took me didn't get past the 4 rooms, then fell apart.
DOA was a ghost town for the loguest time... all you would see there were a few warriors and dervishes, and some other random professions that would be impossible to create a balanced group with. People knu about all teh elitism in there and just stoped goingthere to look for Pugs, only guild groups.
It was impossible to join pretty much any PUG on a Sin or a mesmer. the ones who would take it would be either one that would fail pretty quick since there was no real organisation, or it was the "easy missions" Pugs.
Most builds requiered you to use very specific builds, and honetloy, it doesnt make much diffrence what you put on an Ele's skill bar because all you had to do is spam SF and glowing gaze and throw in a meteor shower once in a while, use attunement once in a while.
anyways, off to work cya guys later lol
when i wanted to do the deep on my ranger, i spamed for HOURS for a group. the only group that actually took me didn't get past the 4 rooms, then fell apart.
DOA was a ghost town for the loguest time... all you would see there were a few warriors and dervishes, and some other random professions that would be impossible to create a balanced group with. People knu about all teh elitism in there and just stoped goingthere to look for Pugs, only guild groups.
It was impossible to join pretty much any PUG on a Sin or a mesmer. the ones who would take it would be either one that would fail pretty quick since there was no real organisation, or it was the "easy missions" Pugs.
Most builds requiered you to use very specific builds, and honetloy, it doesnt make much diffrence what you put on an Ele's skill bar because all you had to do is spam SF and glowing gaze and throw in a meteor shower once in a while, use attunement once in a while.
anyways, off to work cya guys later lol
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
correction: before nobody would accept a sin no matter what you are using. at least now you can do those things on your sin. Nobody was accepting sins even before they ping their build. Unlike class spesific builds, ursan is available to be used with any class. if lets say, you dont have GWEN then too bad, it was the same way with every campaign that would come out, you HAD to have skills from the *new* chapter to run the 3 specific builds
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I can't PUG on my sin, because I have to run Ursan on my sin if I want to PUG. The moment I put Ursan on my A's skillbar and use it, he becomes just another Ursan. If you haven't noticed, Ursan changed skills as well as playing style. No more lead-offhand-dual combos after using Ursan, my honey.
Just like As weren't accepted before, they aren't accepted now. I chose A because I want to play A, not because I want to play ursan.
Abedeus
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
It was impossible to join pretty much any PUG on a Sin or a mesmer. the ones who would take it would be either one that would fail pretty quick since there was no real organisation, or it was the "easy missions" Pugs.
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And when you use Ursan Blessing, do you see on your bar any Mesmer skills? No. Do you see Assassin chain attacks? No. You become U/x.
newbie_of_doom
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Originally Posted by Mohnzh
/notsigned.
Hardly makes them elite, eh? They may be overpowered, but seriously, who cares? I don't Ursan, but I don't mind it when people do. And it shouldn't be considered imbalanced because the monsters don't have a sense of fairness  . |
Oukanna
I see the ever angry circle of Ursan V no ursan -_-
I understand perfectly why it was brought in, before if you wanted to do Elite areas, you needed to be a specific proffesion with a specific build otherwise you get kicked. Now its Ursan, if you dont have Ursan you get kicked. Its just broadened the proffesion horizon.
However, it makes things a lot easier and the "leet" complain becaus of all their hard work trying to be ahead of the rest, have now been caught up with the Ursan people, with ease. Taking away their glory. I guess thats a reason to be mad at Ursan.
Though if you think about it, Ursan is a specific build, and before it you needed specific builds so in my opinion its the same, just a bit easier for people to team up with.
(before you flame for that last sentance, i know you have loads of reason to why its different, but when put down to basic factors it is the same as using an ele/sin farm solo build for bosses, and so on. So if you hate Ursan, then you should hate all other farm builds then? )
If you don't like it, find people who share this opinion and team with them. Simple as that.
I understand perfectly why it was brought in, before if you wanted to do Elite areas, you needed to be a specific proffesion with a specific build otherwise you get kicked. Now its Ursan, if you dont have Ursan you get kicked. Its just broadened the proffesion horizon.
However, it makes things a lot easier and the "leet" complain becaus of all their hard work trying to be ahead of the rest, have now been caught up with the Ursan people, with ease. Taking away their glory. I guess thats a reason to be mad at Ursan.
Though if you think about it, Ursan is a specific build, and before it you needed specific builds so in my opinion its the same, just a bit easier for people to team up with.
(before you flame for that last sentance, i know you have loads of reason to why its different, but when put down to basic factors it is the same as using an ele/sin farm solo build for bosses, and so on. So if you hate Ursan, then you should hate all other farm builds then? )
If you don't like it, find people who share this opinion and team with them. Simple as that.
newbie_of_doom
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Originally Posted by Oukanna
I see the ever angry circle of Ursan V no ursan -_-
I understand perfectly why it was brought in, before if you wanted to do Elite areas, you needed to be a specific proffesion with a specific build otherwise you get kicked. Now its Ursan, if you dont have Ursan you get kicked. Its just broadened the proffesion horizon. However, it makes things a lot easier and the "leet" complain becaus of all their hard work trying to be ahead of the rest, have now been caught up with the Ursan people, with ease. Taking away their glory. I guess thats a reason to be mad at Ursan. Though if you think about it, Ursan is a specific build, and before it you needed specific builds so in my opinion its the same, just a bit easier for people to team up with. (before you flame for that last sentance, i know you have loads of reason to why its different, but when put down to basic factors it is the same as using an ele/sin farm solo build for bosses, and so on. So if you hate Ursan, then you should hate all other farm builds then? ) If you don't like it, find people who share this opinion and team with them. Simple as that. |