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HawkofStorms

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09 May 2008 at 19:06 - 161

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syntonic

Welcome to the internet. Seriously, you need a thicker skin if you find ranking someone to be insulting. Just rank them back or zrank them back depending on which you have. Even people in AB have bambis and what not. People seem to fail to realize that gaining fame in HA was never really that hard if they actually tried hard at getting it - plenty of gimmick builds to fall back to.

See, it isn't like people who are complaining want the ability to do it back. I have rank and don't use it in that way. A lot of people don't want to stoop to their level.

People can be jerks. I'm fine with that. Freedom of speech and all that jazz. But don't try to defend their behavior. Don't say it is okay to be an ass. Don't try to turn the problem around on those who are offended. The problem is with the people who are unrespectful, ireverent jerks. The same people who are spamming neo-nazi crap in RA international all day. Those people are the ones who you should be having a stern talking to, not the offended ones.

Celestial_Kitsune

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09 May 2008 at 19:21 - 162

Official stance of Anet:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linsey

I once asked Gaile about this after someone applied to my guild claiming that they had fame taken away as an explanation for why their rank was much lower than our requirements. She told me that we have never done that nor do we have any problem with the act of ranking someone after defeating them in combat. Linsey talk 18:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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tmakinen

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09 May 2008 at 20:45 - 163

I see this primarily as a conflict over cultural values and ideals. Previously, I had a very hard time trying to understand how being rude could be seen as something positive. Then somebody mentioned taking their role models from pro wrestling (which is a show, not a sport) and that hit a chord. Some people are taught to behave badly in certain situations, and even to be proud of the fact. As my own ideals are closer to those of martial arts and bushido, I am seeing the questionable action in a completely different light. A person who taunts another in dojo before or after a match is an absolute disgrace to everything that he represents, and a failure as a practioner of the art regardless of technical skill. It has nothing to do with being a carebear or a treehugger and everything to do with dignity.

Or then maybe it's just a male thing. Every chimp pounding his chest thinks that he's a gorilla

El Presidente

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09 May 2008 at 20:50 - 164

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafal

Now, I remember times when someone could get reported then de-ranked and/or temp banned for making rank emote over enemy's dead body in HA because of unsportsmanlike behaviour.

First thing I thought of when I read that. You were threatened with a temp ban for it before and now it's encouraged courtesy of a new emote? Oh well, life goes on...

*Gem*

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

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09 May 2008 at 21:31 - 165

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmakinen

Or then maybe it's just a male thing. Every chimp pounding his chest thinks that he's a gorilla

:O I agree. Some guys need to try and prove they are better than others through very basic, almost neanderthal like ways because they lack the dignity and morals to turn around and just say "good fight" or say nothing at all.

In the majority of PVP forms it is your aim to kill someone, so why make such a spectacle out of it? Obviously it really does get some guys off doing that, and to say they don't think it is insulting or disrespectful, then why are you doing it? You want to get a rise out of that person. Don't turn around and tell me you don't even get a slightly malicious jerk off feeling knowing you've pissed that person off.

All in all some people don't see that they are being an asshole sometimes in these situations because they can't, they don't know any better. Also some people can't grow thicker skins, it's just not in them to take it.

Personally I couldn't care less, I don't have a bambi because I've never really wanted one and I'm sure as hell not going to waste my time getting some silly animation so I can run around and antagonize people, same goes for the Zaishen emote.

I have been ranked a few times before, more often than not it made me chuckle and I couldn't help but imagine the stereotypical hyperactive 12 year old screaming "pwned" at his computer. I just assume thats the kind of mentality the person has and go on my merry way.

Yichi

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

09 May 2008 at 21:34 - 166

meh... bad players need rank titles too...

Willow O Whisper

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Denmark

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

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10 May 2008 at 00:02 - 167

Well as long as they put in a rank emote filter aswell i guess i'm okay -_-' ( Please oh please make the ignore list limitless.)

Th Fooster

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Join Date: Apr 2008

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10 May 2008 at 00:05 - 168

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafal

Quote from http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ds/default.php

Now, I remember times when someone could get reported then de-ranked and/or temp banned for making rank emote over enemy's dead body in HA because of unsportsmanlike behaviour.

How come, now ANet encourages players to do such things?

first i would like to poitn out that being "de ranked" in HA for emoting over a dead opponent is a myth. Not true. all those stories "i know a guy that know a guy that hadd an ex guildie..." is all gossip and a load of #(%$.
Anet never forwned upon this bahavior. in fact they put it on teh char in EoTN and actualy named the skill attached to it gloat! meaning anet does not
punish emoters. i remember one time i organised a rank spike on gaille gray in HA. she was fine with it. Anet's position on that emoting issue is neutral.

now as for the QQ about pve players able to get an emote i think its funny.
Good for them! and if they buy it instead of earn it so what!
they want it for themself not to impress anyone.

This is a game. grow up, and be a good sport and take a little defeat with dignity. if you get ranked what does that take away from you? do you lose gold? do you.. lose fame? do you lose title points? umm.. no soo... yeah...
take the wins and the losses. all yo have to lose is a little bit of your elitist pride and an ego brusing whe some pve nub emotes you back.
good for them! and serves the rest of you crybabies right!

It amazes me that you pvp players dont see the oportunity here to make gold and still remain in pvp.No more being forced to grind in pve just to get some gold. and 95% of the pvp comunity also have pve chars that they use in pvp, and in pvp yu need perfect weapons and several armour sets.
the few that have pvp only packs, what difference is it to you if sime pve guy emotes you? the same emote is available to you pvp players as well.soo... yah..its not like yo have been denied anything.
As for the emoting a dead enemy being bad behavior.... what about all the people that spam who the noobs are in all chat... and point out some poor rank 3 guy and make fun of him just because he has a deer and not a tiger? these are the things anet frowns upon.Racism in all chat, selling gold or accounts, rage quitting, leeching in RA, No my froends Anet does NOT support bad behavior, they just dont comply to your personal opions on what that behavior is.

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

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Boston Ma.

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10 May 2008 at 00:35 - 169

Anet is not promoting bad behavior, they are creating fun, enjoyable gameplay. Whilst also promoting the economy by creating a title that took alot of elite farmers money.
I spent 500k+ on z-keys because i thought this new emote would look good on my para. Its not the 1st time i went broke, and it sure isnt the last.
I know alot of pvp players that had a great time these past 2 days as i shelled out 5k each for the keys. Im sure these key prices will drop, just like everything else in the game.

But If you really have a problem with someone emoting you after a battle, you might want to try some other game like The Sims.

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

10 May 2008 at 02:14 - 170

Why don't ANet just make it so that you can only use Zaishen/rank emotes in the Battle Isles?

Haven't read through most of the thread, but thats just my suggestion.

HuntMaster Avatar

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10 May 2008 at 02:57 - 171

jerks exist in this game regardless of anets actions. Jerks existed before anet and they will exist after anet. People know this they just need something new to complain about.

If you don't like getting emoted after you lose, then don't lose or don't play. Or better yet, WIN! Bitching on this site won't change anything. Anet doesnt care how you feel, they got your money already. Maybe they hope people will emote the losers, then the losers will report the emoters and anet will ban them. So now the emoters have to go out and buy the games again.
Good way to make money and matches their shady habits.

Nothing you can do now. Personally I dont care about being emoted or the title or the ability to buy it. Titles are useless, Atleast gwen titles give benefits. Titles are just another useless feature that people strive for until they get them, then a weak later they realize how pointless they really are.

Titles should do stuff, Like +x to energy, +x to life. +x to damage. Those that dont are useless. They are not needed yet people, often the people who bitch about grinding feel compeled to get them, Why? they dont do anything at all. Because they need a way to brag. But braging about a title with no benefits is like bragging about your new SUV, except you cant afford gas to drive anywhere.

I'm glad about the title, I'm gonna start farming zkeys. Thanks anet for making money making so easy.

Th Fooster

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11 May 2008 at 07:15 - 172

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Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

The snowflake doesnt fall far from the blizzard. (waits to see if anyone gets it)

thats cheap! haa! funny but what a cheap punn.
for those that dont get it, alot of anet staff once worked for blizzard.
that should point you in the right direction.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

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The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

11 May 2008 at 08:46 - 173

Quote:

Originally Posted by Th Fooster

thats cheap! haa! funny but what a cheap punn.
for those that dont get it, alot of anet staff once worked for blizzard.
that should point you in the right direction.

I think we all get it. The fact that nobody bothers to comment on it is probably because the statement is kinda wrong.

Let's face it, if they didn't tell you (or to be more precise, USE IT AS A SELLING POINT), could you tell GW is made by ex-blizzard developers?

GW's polishness is far FAR less than any Blizzard games.

GW's cinematic, when available, looks weak comparing to Blizzard's.

GW's voice acting....do I have to comment on this?

GW's storyline....well...totally NOT of WarCraft/Diablo/Starcraft quality.

Need I go on? Sometimes it makes me wonder why they're not working at Blizzard anymore. Got fired?

Blizzard's games also have their own bad points. But, personally I don't think sharing the same bad points makes you think the two games are from the same company.

Random Scrubinator

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

11 May 2008 at 08:48 - 174

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

jerks exist in this game regardless of anets actions. Jerks existed before anet and they will exist after anet. People know this they just need something new to complain about.

If you don't like getting emoted after you lose, then don't lose or don't play. Or better yet, WIN! Bitching on this site won't change anything. Anet doesnt care how you feel, they got your money already. Maybe they hope people will emote the losers, then the losers will report the emoters and anet will ban them. So now the emoters have to go out and buy the games again.
Good way to make money and matches their shady habits.

Nothing you can do now. Personally I dont care about being emoted or the title or the ability to buy it. Titles are useless, Atleast gwen titles give benefits. Titles are just another useless feature that people strive for until they get them, then a weak later they realize how pointless they really are.

Titles should do stuff, Like +x to energy, +x to life. +x to damage. Those that dont are useless. They are not needed yet people, often the people who bitch about grinding feel compeled to get them, Why? they dont do anything at all. Because they need a way to brag. But braging about a title with no benefits is like bragging about your new SUV, except you cant afford gas to drive anywhere.

I'm glad about the title, I'm gonna start farming zkeys. Thanks anet for making money making so easy.

And use that money to buy...

Dr Strangelove

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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11 May 2008 at 09:54 - 175

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacheelma

GW's polishness is far FAR less than any Blizzard games.

Guild Wars does have Polish district, and from what I hear it's reasonably popular in Poland.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacheelma

GW's cinematic, when available, looks weak comparing to Blizzard's.

GW's voice acting....do I have to comment on this?

GW's storyline....well...totally NOT of WarCraft/Diablo/Starcraft quality.

These are all the same thing. Guild Wars has a weak storyline. This is less of a big deal than you might think.

Arenanet and Blizzard are different companies with different business models. Both have produced extremely high quality products. As with any industry, the people in the top echelons tend to move between companies fluidly.

Sethellington

Jungle Guide

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11 May 2008 at 09:58 - 176

this is the gw equivalent of tea-bagging, which enrages people -.- i guess we'll have to live with it.

RotteN

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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11 May 2008 at 10:08 - 177

I remember one of the warriors in the GWWC (or was it GWFC) rank spiking a dead body. He didn't get banned, nor instantly kicked from the match.

It's part of competition, it's the online equivalent of patting someone on the head after you tackle their ass to the ground saying "better luck next time lil boy". Unsportmanship ? probably. Illegal ? Hell no.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

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11 May 2008 at 10:22 - 178

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Guild Wars does have Polish district, and from what I hear it's reasonably popular in Poland.

These are all the same thing. Guild Wars has a weak storyline. This is less of a big deal than you might think.

Arenanet and Blizzard are different companies with different business models. Both have produced extremely high quality products. As with any industry, the people in the top echelons tend to move between companies fluidly.

I'm sorry I mispelled "Polishedness". But I don't think you can use JUST THAT as an excuse to post something without any relevant point whatsoever, no?

A guy says Anet and Blizzard is similar. I expressed my disagreement and provided some examples. What's the point of your post?

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

11 May 2008 at 10:34 - 179

ANet's caring about bad behaviour is in perfect negative correlation to how much someone "matters."

Lesser known person...............................Well known person
Ban stick!............................................ .*Turns a blind eye*

But hey, that's life.

(and no, I haven't read the whole thread, I'm sticking with the OP's topic at hand)

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

11 May 2008 at 11:33 - 180

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacheelma

...
Need I go on? Sometimes it makes me wonder why they're not working at Blizzard anymore. Got fired?
....

No, they wanted to make a D2 with more emphasies on PvP! Blizzard had other plans, so they left.

warcrap

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11 May 2008 at 14:10 - 181

i think its pretty stupid getting reported just for emoting over a dead body.

Aidan Taylor

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11 May 2008 at 14:38 - 182

Wow, I see an awful lot of kids crying over spilled milk here- these are gonna be the same people who gripe when ANet releases the "PvP skillset" and seperates PvE skills from PvP skills- they are just looking for something to QQ about. Yes, finally, PvE players with money can get a cute little emote- it looks lame, and will never hold the prestiege of the HA emotes.

As for ranking someone's corpse- the only people I've ever Ranked in HA are the ones who talked smack before the match started, and then got PwNeD because they needed to /uninstall due to epic failure... Aside from that, you don't really use it much- okay, except for the time when a team synced their tigers at me and my team, and I was r3 and bambied them back, but...

As for PvP'ers whining that this is dumb, etc.- So F*&^%ing what? it's a cash cow for all of us- sell your Z-keys for 5k each to the nub who's trying to fill his Hall of Monuments, and go buy some cool gear( gently strokes his brand new r10 voltaic purchased from 45 zkey sale

).

Seriously, we all know that once ANet puts something like this in place, it won't be removed by any amount of complaining. And in all fairnsee, what is there really to complain about?

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

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11 May 2008 at 15:00 - 183

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan Taylor

As for ranking someone's corpse- the only people I've ever Ranked in HA are the ones who talked smack before the match started,

I think you meant "the ones who acted like assholes before the match started".

Stooping to their level, though, isn't cool.

Prokiller88

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

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11 May 2008 at 15:03 - 184

Stop QQ. Anet put this in for the casual pvpers, those people don't do ha, they just like to around and mess around in ab/ra. I'm surprised that this isn't the glad title rank. But since Anet has put in that new Favor System, we need more titles. But all these titles are just grinding, which is Anet's replacement of new expansions/campaigns because they are working on GW2.

C2K

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

11 May 2008 at 15:18 - 185

Quote:

Originally Posted by warcrap

i think its pretty stupid getting reported just for emoting over a dead body.

Ranking may be unsportsmanlike, but doesn't really fall into the reasonable use of the /report command. I would expect those that report rank spikes would find themselves with a temp ban down the line.

My only problem with the Zaishen title is the PvE-er that bought all their keys and spams the rank like they earned it the hard way. I rather see someone spamming a tiger that was IWAY'd or sway'd before I see a r8 zaishen title being spammed.

Dallcingi

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11 May 2008 at 22:56 - 186

Come to think of it I /zrank a fallen body after I win in RA/HA =) now just cause Anet said its okay (hey they had a video on how to do it!)
I dont flash hero title tho just /zrank cause it was meant to "insult" the enemy.
I have yet to encounter a negative comment while doing this.. (over 30 times used), so maybe its not that bad or taken negatively.

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

11 May 2008 at 23:10 - 187

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan Taylor

Yes, finally, PvE players with money can get a cute little emote- it looks lame, and will never hold the prestiege of the HA emotes.

When did HA emotes have "prestiege"?

Iway? Blood Spike? Ranger Spike? S Way? Paraway? Legoway? And all the numerous other FOTM builds I missed.

Not to mention fame farming. PvE players with enormous wealth have bought HA emotes as well.

No title in Guild Wars takes "skill". If you have enough money you can find people to help you get it.

Dallcingi

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11 May 2008 at 23:30 - 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxage

No title in Guild Wars takes "skill". If you have enough money you can find people to help you get it.

Champion does to some extent. Even if you do buy it, you still gotta play to win even if you do play with the best players cause 7 vs 8 is bad. Maybe it wont take skill for the guy who buys the champ title but it does take skill for the farmers, therefore it is a title requiring skill.
And in terms of high ranked guilds.. ya u gotta have skill to win a lot lol.

Aidan Taylor

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12 May 2008 at 00:32 - 189

Quote:

Champion does to some extent. Even if you do buy it, you still gotta play to win even if you do play with the best players cause 7 vs 8 is bad. Maybe it wont take skill for the guy who buys the champ title but it does take skill for the farmers, therefore it is a title requiring skill.
And in terms of high ranked guilds.. ya u gotta have skill to win a lot lol.

I think the same applies to HA- you can't go 7v8 very often and have a killer fame run.

Alleji

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Join Date: Jan 2006

12 May 2008 at 00:44 - 190

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan Taylor

I think the same applies to HA- you can't go 7v8 very often and have a killer fame run.

Thing is, it's not 7v8. In both GvG and HA you can have bars that take next to no skill to play... taint necro, fire ele, bsurge, etc. Just give him one of those bars. Of course, you'll see a slight difference between a good taint necro and an unranked clueless one, but it won't be as big of a difference as between good and bad monk, mesmer or warrior.

C2K

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Join Date: May 2005

12 May 2008 at 00:51 - 191

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

Thing is, it's not 7v8. In both GvG and HA you can have bars that take next to no skill to play... taint necro, fire ele, bsurge, etc. Just give him one of those bars. Of course, you'll see a slight difference between a good taint necro and an unranked clueless one, but it won't be as big of a difference as between good and bad monk, mesmer or warrior.

True, but gimmicks don't farm faster than a coordinated balanced in any pvp format. Just having to play PvP and win makes a /rank more prestgious than a /zrank. HA builds may be lame, but you have to consider the amount of guilds that exist to roll that place daily.

Now if you want to get into a a debate about which pvp title is more prestigious, then its true Hero would be low on that list and Champion should be the top.

Lady Lozza

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12 May 2008 at 01:01 - 192

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmakinen

I see this primarily as a conflict over cultural values and ideals. Previously, I had a very hard time trying to understand how being rude could be seen as something positive. Then somebody mentioned taking their role models from pro wrestling (which is a show, not a sport) and that hit a chord. Some people are taught to behave badly in certain situations, and even to be proud of the fact. As my own ideals are closer to those of martial arts and bushido, I am seeing the questionable action in a completely different light. A person who taunts another in dojo before or after a match is an absolute disgrace to everything that he represents, and a failure as a practioner of the art regardless of technical skill. It has nothing to do with being a carebear or a treehugger and everything to do with dignity.

Or then maybe it's just a male thing. Every chimp pounding his chest thinks that he's a gorilla

QFT. To be honest, I do think if people are offended over a computer game they might need to unplug, but at the same time if people feel the need to prove their uberness they should also unplug.

I suppose the question really revolves around whether computer games are entertainment or sport. Pro wrestling is entertainment and you will see taunts a-plenty there. Cricket, tennis, rugby, they are all sports, and players are expected to be on their best behaviour.

I consider ranking to be rude, unsporting, and often completely uncalled for. I do not find it personally insulting.

Neverending Silence

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12 May 2008 at 01:13 - 193

imo i could care less about this ranking emote... i play to win by fair play and nothing more. if i want to have a nice sportsman-like attitude ill come back to the realilty and go chill with my friends. if u have a problem with getting a loss rubbed in your face....well, get over it. its life and part of the game. dont wanna get emoted? then play better and it'll reduce ur losses... or simply quite pvp. quit whining about anet having some fun...

Lordhelmos

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12 May 2008 at 08:58 - 194

Come on its a game, even Charr /rank you when they kill you. There is a /taunt emote build into the game, and jesting + ranking is part of the game's fun. If you are getting offended by this kind of stuff, your taking this game way too seriously.

Now dropping, 4x gold weapons on someone.... thats ftw!

Banning people for taunting or /ranking is just plain stupid. People are going to use those emotes and its all good fun. If people get offended by this sort of stuff its their own fault for being way too uptight.

If someone at Anet is banning for emote jesting they seriously need to get their head fixed. They really can't justify banning people for this sort of nonsense unless they completely remove /gloat from charr in the game and post warnings about it.

If I had R12 zaishen, you know I would be dropping weapons on people, yes yes, every single time.

tmakinen

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12 May 2008 at 09:17 - 195

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

If you are getting offended by this kind of stuff, your taking this game way too seriously.

I think that you didn't get it.

Speaking only on my own behalf, I'm not offended at all if somebody ranks people on arenas. If anybody those rankers humiliate themselves through their disgraceful conduct. That there are people who gleefully virtual fap in plain view doesn't surprise me either, that's just the way it is and you can't expect rude people to see the pool of indignity in which they wallow. That ANet specifically and intentionally panders to that part of the population raises an eyebrow concerning the future of this franchise.

Atra Culpa

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12 May 2008 at 09:44 - 196

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmakinen

I think that you didn't get it.

Speaking only on my own behalf, I'm not offended at all if somebody ranks people on arenas. If anybody those rankers humiliate themselves through their disgraceful conduct. That there are people who gleefully virtual fap in plain view doesn't surprise me either, that's just the way it is and you can't expect rude people to see the pool of indignity in which they wallow. That ANet specifically and intentionally panders to that part of the population raises an eyebrow concerning the future of this franchise.

I very much agree with Tmak here.

My main gripe with the /zrank is that its visually ugly.
I don't mind getting fame /ranked because at least they're something to look at.

That, coupled with what has been suggested by the OP and worded by Tmak, is what makes this a VERY bad title.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

12 May 2008 at 15:40 - 197

Interesting how I see people complaining about "bad behavior" in GW but have *never* heard complaints about bad behavior in TF2 (which contains a variety of different taunts for each class and a Nemesis system if you get killed too many times be the same player).

wilderness

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12 May 2008 at 16:00 - 198

Using an emote as a finishing move = disgraceful conduct?

With the amount of righteous morality you people pull out of your arses on a daily basis you must shit angel dust and piss sun beams from heaven.

Malice Black

Site Legend

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12 May 2008 at 16:45 - 199

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilderness

Using an emote as a finishing move = disgraceful conduct?

With the amount of righteous morality you people pull out of your arses on a daily basis you must shit angel dust and piss sun beams from heaven.

This.

Some of you don't have a tough enough skin for the internet.

/rank

Trub

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12 May 2008 at 17:05 - 200

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilderness
Using an emote as a finishing move = disgraceful conduct?

With the amount of righteous morality you people pull out of your arses on a daily basis you must shit angel dust and piss sun beams from heaven.

That made my day..Thank You!!