New Weapons in the HoM? Your guesses?

Striken7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

The District Nudists

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Quote:
Originally Posted by byteme!
"No more updates, no more freebies, and no more skill adjustments.
Please?

Yes, really.

dwc89

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

earth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
I was more amused by the fact she is still getting used to being a GM, and using /.gm command sets. lollololol. That is cute on so many levels, which includes she herself and her funny quirks.

That to , just my opinion here - I personally like Regina's approach to the gig.

What I lol'd at was she is delivering news that Gaile had said wasn't being looked into (at that time). This and the upcoming PvP - PvE skill change, etc

Be fun to see how Regina deals with the less "polite" ppl when she does visit.

Derrick the Nomad

Derrick the Nomad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Gear Trick

E/R

We are allowed to put elite armors from any game into the hall. It's only reasonable to allow us to put end game weapons from any chapter into the hall.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

This sounds very promising. I just hope any update comes with an option to remove the destroyer stuff I've already put in there.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by dwc89
That to , just my opinion here - I personally like Regina's approach to the gig.

What I lol'd at was she is delivering news that Gaile had said wasn't being looked into (at that time). This and the upcoming PvP - PvE skill change, etc

Be fun to see how Regina deals with the less "polite" ppl when she does visit.
She is blunt, to the point, doesn't take crap, is very intelligent, has a great sense of humor, doesn't baby people, tells it how it is, is cute while being classy, and she is lovely on many levels. Personally, I adore her, and I think she will do a great job as CRM. I would like to get to know her a bit better, pity I never met her before she became so official... Now I feel as though she may feel I just want to know her because she is CRM, which is far from the case. I see her as the female version of me, or a clone of my bride to be! LOL!?

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

I haven't much cared for the destroyer skinned weapons (actually on a few occasions I've said that I've hated them) so I'm really glad that they'll be giving people alternatives. Actually, since taste is subjective, I hope they just let people put whatever they want in there.

Also, why 11 weapons? Granted, originally one for each class of weapon that had a destroyer skin, but I mean, who actually uses 11 seperate weapons? My ranger has 5 or 6 bows for different reasons, my warrior's got a bunch of swords, an axe or two, and a bow for pulling, etc, but no one's got 11 frakin' weapons that'd I'd bother putting up in the HoM...

Ferrous Capuchin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Piranha

Me/W

I vote for "put anything you dang well want on the monument" but that there be point values assigned for whatever nebulous future Guild Wars 2 reward is granted.

e.g.

Destroyer Weapon 100 points
Rare Skin Gold 10 points
Green Weapons 5 points
Routine Golds 1 point

...and this gives everyone the enjoyment of displaying and customizing their hall, and still gives the hardcore folks their just rewards for their investment.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Maybe you can add a tormented weapon instead of a destroyer weapon, and it will still count as a weapon for that weapon socket in GW2.

This is going to end in tears anyways.

A quicker reaction would have been desirable, people already spend money on completing this monument, despite some of the destroyer weapons being really butt ugly.


I do not think that I will be able to display my favorite longsword.

Or maybe they add a few "personalized" weapon slots to the 11 money sink destroyer weapons.

Horus

Horus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

www.godtguild.com

Blades Of Burning Shadows [GoDT]-leader

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don't think tis way needed at all, but ok...

Aspen^

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
She is blunt, to the point, doesn't take crap, is very intelligent, has a great sense of humor, doesn't baby people, tells it how it is, is cute while being classy, and she is lovely on many levels. Personally, I adore her, and I think she will do a great job as CRM. I would like to get to know her a bit better, pity I never met her before she became so official... Now I feel as though she may feel I just want to know her because she is CRM, which is far from the case. I see her as the female version of me, or a clone of my bride to be! LOL!?
Yikes somebody call the cops I think we may have a stalker

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

I'd like some new skins myself, maybe placed in some elite areas. EoTN has destroyers weps in slavers, NF has tormented in DOA. So maybe place crafters in urgoz and the deep for factions and a crafter in tombs or SF for tyria? Or go the eternal and chaos weps and put crafters in UW and FoW.

Thierry2

Thierry2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

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I don't really mind, tbh.
I've added all destroyer weapons ages ago, so my monument is full anyway.
I hope it won't be end game greens though. It cost people like me a few 100k to max the monument.. if you can add the greens it will be much cheaper.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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I hope they dont make this necessary in order to fill the Hall of Monuments, but for what I reckon it will be, Zodiacs, Deldrimor, Eternal/Chaos.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Could it be? Anet going to do something right?

I still predict some serious QQ mostly because people want to display their *favourite* weapons.

Now, lets see what option do we have:

* They add more of craftable High End weapons (Tormented, Deldrimor) -> Good, increases choice (If you happen to like those new skins, they ARE better than destroyer anyway.). Does not help with high costs or with putting ones favorite weapons there.

* They add greens. Endgame and normal drops. WoW. that would actually help a lot. It would be gigantic sink for overabundant green items and would help to raise their value a lot. Still does not help people with their favourite weapons.

I don't see how they would add something else: BMP would be cool but PR nightmare (so we have to buy bmp to get monuments? qqqqqq). They likely wouldnt want to bother with stuff that people actually use.

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It it was me i would simply do this: max damage/energy; req 9 or lower and gold/green/purple is good enough for HOM. GOGOGO low end market revival.

(yes, purple is good enough. People, you put white minis on other monuments and no-one complains, ffs)

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrous Capuchin
I vote for "put anything you dang well want on the monument" but that there be point values assigned for whatever nebulous future Guild Wars 2 reward is granted.

e.g.

Destroyer Weapon 100 points
Rare Skin Gold 10 points
Green Weapons 5 points
Routine Golds 1 point

...and this gives everyone the enjoyment of displaying and customizing their hall, and still gives the hardcore folks their just rewards for their investment.
I could live with this option. For me, my r8 15^50 Shadow Bow I got from early gameplay has much more sentimental value compared to those 11 Destroyer Weapons I simply bought.

Before release, I was hoping the HoM to be like some kind of museum, where you could display anything you wanted. Not just another quest in disguise: Bring me 11 Destroyer Weapons and your Hall will advance one step... I could live with that though, because I was under the impression only these weapons would be beneficial to the ongoing war against the Destroyers, still going on in GW2. Allowing other weapons seems a bit wrong to me now. If anything more will be able to added, I really want to be able to add anything.

So, since Anet is possible allowing to add more weapons in the HoM, who wants to start a QQ thread about allowing non-elite armor too?

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

no, anet should not reward dupers and super richs anymore... when they give us the opportunity to add more Weapons of certai nsets to the monument, then it should be imo Celestial and Zodiac Items.

Anet should add then also like for Destroyer Weapons for these Weapons NPC Sellers, where you can craft them ten for some money and materials, maybe some really not very often used materials, so that they become some value finally over 100g

Otherwise i say, its better to implement some complete new weapon set or they should enable us to put all the CONTEST WEAPONS on the monument, when they have r9 and maxed mods on them, would be the most easiest solution that would not require to implement something new.
Or better said, finally complete free choice, let us just put any items there, which we want with the only requirement, that requirement must be r9 or lower and that all stats must be maxed. (so we would be then also able just to put some green items there)

I'd really love it to put onto my Monument items like the Emerald Blade, Obsidian Blade, Draconic Aegis, Voltaic Spear, Storm Bow, Zodiac Staff, Exalted Aegis, Serpent Reaver, Frog Scepter, Celestial Compass and Draconic Scythe.

Monument should stay it 11 items for maxing the monument, but players should be able to put more items onto the monument and then change like with the minipet/title monument ect. which 11 items shoudl be shown.

And improve with this step hopefully then too the HoM by makign it possible for us players to sort our monuments exactly like we want by just choosing out of our list, which stuff should be at which place.

you click the minipet monument ,you want to change somethign on it and then the game will ask you, which 20 pets should be shown. list poss up of all your pets on the monument, you mark then 20 pets by clicking on their names, click ok and your 20 chosen pets will be shown, after that you cann arrange the 20 pets the old way by changign their position as long sa you want.

same with titles then, windo pops up, you click the 5 titles which should be shown, then <you select the places for the titles where they should be by selectign numbers from 1 to 5 to them and et voila you wil see ur 5 chosen titles at your chosen places out of your x titles that you have

and again, exactly the same then again for all other monuments including weapon monument. should be really not too much wished, nor too hard to improve the HoM with this, making it for us players possible to direct choose everythign, that should be shown, because it t works atm, its crap, because you never have the full control over it, which of your thigns should be shown.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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well now I feel sorry for those people who got all the horrible destroyer weapons (I have one, and was thinking about getting a second----I will hold off for now).

Dont think they can really include end game ones since you can only really get ONE of them per character---from factions and nightfall, though the new deldrimor ones you can craft----


will have to wait and see what they do---though obviously its a bit late in the game as MANY people have already gotten the HoM maxed out with those others-----

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

I think they should go full out on this if they plan on changing it.
This means:
Maybe sorrows furnace/tombs greens
Deldrimer weapons

Divine path weapons
Urgoz/Deep weapons

Forgotten weapons
Tormented weapons

Droknars weapons
Destroyer weapons

--BMP weapons and Design a weapon winners

Adja1005

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Scotland

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
well now I feel sorry for those people who got all the horrible destroyer weapons (I have one, and was thinking about getting a second----I will hold off for now).

Dont think they can really include end game ones since you can only really get ONE of them per character---from factions and nightfall, though the new deldrimor ones you can craft----


will have to wait and see what they do---though obviously its a bit late in the game as MANY people have already gotten the HoM maxed out with those others-----
Yeah i was one of those people who went out and bought/crafted every destroyer weapon for his HoM on my paragon. So wish i hadn't now...

Still i think the only weapons that should be added are Destroyers, BMP, Tormented, Platinum, Zodiac, Celestial, Deldrimore and possibly Slaver's Exile and other elite area greens. Otherwise i don't think they should allow basic req9 golds which are so easily aquired.

And before people start qqing about "but the super rich can afford all those items! its not fair for us poorer players" think about how long we took to obtain all the gold/ectos to afford those items. You don't just aquire 100k+80 ectos for a Tormented Recurve bow overnight, takes a lot of grind and a lot of playtime for such rewards. Not to mention the mods for all those weapons can be costly too.

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

greens. only.

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

More stuf to put in HOM would be great, as those destroyer weapons are as ugly as sin. They look like something that came out of a donky's ass.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
I see her as the female version of me, or a clone of my bride to be! LOL!?
Rahja's got a girlfriend, Rahja's got a girlfriend.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

The way to do it right:

*The monument should remain max'able with 11 different weapons
*Adding more should be entirely optional (and rework the monument ordering...)
*The Destroyer weapons should be the low-end, the easiest of all other possibilities - so the task of maxing the monument doesn't become easier
*No greens
*Most obvious weapon choices:
--All Tormented,
--All '08 Contest winner golds (r9-10)
--All Zodiac weapons (r8-9 perf inherent or r9 insc)
--the top rares like Eternal Blade, Crystalline, Voltaic, Silverwing, ...(without req limitation)
--quality high-end golds, only ones 'protected from overfarm' by rarity (r9 or less, inherently perfect or inscrib.) - a long list, examples to include: Chaos Axe, Fellblade, Magmas Shield, Storm Bow, Ghostly Staff, Celestials...
--All the Canthan rarities that don't have insc. versions (r9 or less and perf inherent only)

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
She is blunt, to the point, doesn't take crap, is very intelligent, has a great sense of humor, doesn't baby people, tells it how it is, is cute while being classy, and she is lovely on many levels. Personally, I adore her, and I think she will do a great job as CRM. I would like to get to know her a bit better, pity I never met her before she became so official... Now I feel as though she may feel I just want to know her because she is CRM, which is far from the case. I see her as the female version of me, or a clone of my bride to be! LOL!?
Brown nose much?

Lyonette

Lyonette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[PiG]

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ahahaha dunky g i have to agree... didn't rahja consider himself gaile's bff when she was crm? :s

i think indeed we do have an extreme case of fanboism XD

go go stalker shield!

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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We'll see how they handle the situation with people who have already filled HoM with destroyer items.

A bit off-topic: We know items in HoM will unlock something in GW2. Now the question: will each item unlock something or only the ones displayed? For example: Lets say I add 20 titles to HoM - do I get 20 of 'something in GW2' or just 5 as there is only 5 statues?

Yol

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

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Ever since EoTN went live, the weapon rack in my main character's HoM has been bare. I didn't like the fact that only destroyer weapons could be added (not that I've ever had any), when my perfect celestial bows and elemental swords couldn't.

Any improvements would be welcome (adding greens, end-game or elite zone craftable golds, rare skins), as well as the ability to choose which titles/heroes/minipets/weapons/armours to display in the hall.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
*The Destroyer weapons should be the low-end, the easiest of all other possibilities - so the task of maxing the monument doesn't become easier
I strongly disagree with that - only providing more expensive options, just opens it up for the millionaires and leaves the rest of us collecting Destroyer turds. Not that I think free greens should be added, but I'd rather see some new crafters, with options balanced to cost the same-ish as the Destroyer weapons.

It's a shame Deldrimor crafting costs were not balanced to parallel that of Destroyer weapons - that would have seemed a pretty obvious start to me.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
We'll see how they handle the situation with people who have already filled HoM with destroyer items.
How did they handle the fact that gems that are used to craft em dropped to 1k-ish price?

There is no need to "handle" it. All early adopter take risk and are nearly always burned by inflation/value loss. People who waited with destroyer weapons till now saved over ~85k per weapon. That is nearly million gold!

So anyone claiming that any method of making monument easier to complete is bad thing because they already did it hard way gets "WTF" from me, because doing it the "easy way" is always just matter of waiting long enough.

There is a lot of opportunity to create lowend item sink that would suck them out of ecomony and thus help fix "too many items, not enough buyers" problem. This possiblity of fix should not be sabotaged because some people invented too much too early and think that everyone should follow their steps.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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I like surprises.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
How did they handle the fact that gems that are used to craft em dropped to 1k-ish price?
I wasn't thinking about price of items (ANet is in the business of kicking the dead hores that is economy now) but more of the actual implementation. Will a second row of items be added? Will a 'rearrange' button be added. Something else?

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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i did cost people a good 400k-600k to make them,
i hope they do this right.

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

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im going to go crazy...2 days ago after hard work and alot of time i devoted 11 detroyer weps. as they were the only ones allowed, and they were there for something to do with GW2 ..

I'm mad...

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

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torm/deld I figure. Do I care, no, my weapon slots in hall is empty.

~the rat~

Frank Dudenstein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Adding Deldrimor items (as has been suggested many times in this thread) makes absolutely no sense to me because
a) after the hoopla fades you realize they are essentially boring endgame items same as the endgame items in nightfall and factions .. if you add deldrimor it would only make sense to add the others too
b) they are very easy/inexpensive to get
c) you can only get 1 per character meaning - that's not much of an additioon to the HoM unless Anet adds multiple stands and means for you to buy the rest from others - which really isn't their modus operendi (not to mention who is going to sell them if everyone needs them for HoM)

As for what items they SHOULD add? Well

- Definitely not greens - way to easy to get and besides farming ftl

- Super-rare skins? i don't know, how would you choose which ones? And then you are left with everyone farming the same couple of spots that drop them. (and to you people suggesting super-rare with req requirements ... lol get a life...farming x1000 is REALLY ftl)

- BMP weapons? WAY too easy to get - HoM weapons should be some sort of challenge to get...

- Tormented makes alot of sense to me, as does Zodiac. Rewards for the super-high-end areas should be better anyway - this would be added incentive to do them

BTW .. I would love to see some sort of 'special' stand for FoW armor. Lumping it together with the rest of the 15k really detracts from the 'achievement' (such as it is) of getting it...

Adja1005

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Scotland

R/

On my paragon i've got a full HoM however and it angers me that Anet go and do this after my hard spent time and gold on filling that HoM completely. That being said i feel more pity for the poor people who have gone and filled out their HoM with destroyer weapons now as it could be an utter waste of gold and time lol. Especially if they make Tormented weapons, the better looking set, able to be put into the HoM.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adja1005
On my paragon i've got a full HoM however and it angers me that Anet go and do this after my hard spent time and gold on filling that HoM completely.
Why surprised? They've been doing stuff like this nonstop lately. They're acting as though there's a monthly fee and they need to keep people playing. But there isn't a monthly fee and so their actions are pissing people off without even improving profit.

Nightmares Hammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

11 spaces. Any weapons.

Gogogo!

Adja1005

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Scotland

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Why surprised? They've been doing stuff like this nonstop lately. They're acting as though there's a monthly fee and they need to keep people playing. But there isn't a monthly fee and so their actions are pissing people off without even improving profit.
Just pisses me off that after so long of saying that destroyer weapons will be the ONLY weapons to be included into the HoM. After we demand more sets to be included, for what felt like years. They do a complete U turn and go back on their word meaning all the time and profit i spent is essentially wasted. I think destroyer weapons look fugly, and it annoys me it really does.

Why couldn't they announce an auction house? if GW needs anything its a decent economy, not more HoM crap. And the majority of new players still don't know how/what to do with the HoM. I mean if i hear another "what do i do with the tapestry???" in EOTN outpost i may just snap.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Why surprised? They've been doing stuff like this nonstop lately. They're acting as though there's a monthly fee and they need to keep people playing. But there isn't a monthly fee and so their actions are pissing people off without even improving profit.
Well, you know, maybe they want both.

Keep people playing till GW2 rolls out and make them pissed enough at GW1 so that they will quite GW1 for GW2

*It be conspiracy!*

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

imo tomented stuff is as much butt ugly, as most of the destroyer items... and as said, I'm against tormented weapons. Rich players should not get rewarded more, than neccessary...
And those weapons are only for super rich players, because it requires lots of money to get one of those butt ugly shit weapons, far more, than for destroyer weapons...

Most best option will be ever, that Players should be able to put onto their monument whatever they want, as long it has max mods and a req of 9 or lower, as logn as these requirements are fullfilled, players should be able to put any item on the monument, you want to display.

Any player should have there FREE CHOICE, because guess what, we talk ablout the hall of Monuments and its a PERSONAL instance where every player can freely decide, btw better said should be able to freely decide, which stuff gets to be shown for others, if you bring friends to your HoM...
Havign only to put destroy weapons on the monument is NO free personal choice, its a retarded momument, as long it stays so, like it is atm.

and when so, then are some Greens really easy to get, but if something is now easy to get or not, will not change anythign on the personal setted value for the items, like greens.
For someone they are worthless and would never think on puttign any green on their monument, even if it goes quicker, for others they are valuable and theose wones would like to put the green onto their monument. that the green is then easy to get or not, is somethign diffirent that plays no matter, because in the end it will be ever your personal decision, if you want to have these items on your personal monument, or not, because maybe your such a type of posing player, which wants to have on his monument ever only the most costful shit on, even if its so ugly, that you could die, when ou look at it, but its only important, it had cost you thousands over thousands of platin ectos and armbraces >.>

Why want so much people to see, that every crap on the HoM must only be high end huh ? Can't understand this kind of thinking ...
HoM is not only for uber hardcore gamers with so much gold, that they can't count their wealth anymore Also casual gamers should be anytime able to max all the monuments and therefore is for the weapons monument the option missing, to put also low end max items there and greens ect. stuff that is easier to get and doesn't cost direct tons of platin to achieve them items.