New Weapons in the HoM? Your guesses?

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

New weapons probably... woot? As if there isn't enough weapons no one cares about.

Res Ipsi

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

I'm so glad I decided to wait and see what benefits HoM gave towards GW2 before adding anything to the weapons monument. Saved me a bundle. Thanks ANet

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

R/

If they now make hom weps open to more variaties, then all those who have 11+ destroyer weps dedicated are completely screwed.

100% screwed up, and thrown into a waste paper bin.

For them to do this will de value all the hard work people, including myself have done to gain a full weps rack.

Adja1005

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Scotland

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
imo tomented stuff is as much butt ugly, as most of the destroyer items... and as said, I'm against tormented weapons. Rich players should not get rewarded more, than neccessary...
And those weapons are only for super rich players, because it requires lots of money to get one of those butt ugly shit weapons, far more, than for destroyer weapons...
Wow...qqing much over being poor?

Seriously how does being able, assuming we will be, to add tormented weapons to our HoM unfair or being rewarded more? If i put a lot of effort and time into accumulating a horde of gold and spend lots of it on high end items i want to be able to show that expensive "bling" off to people in my HoM.

Afterall the big point of the HoM, GW2 bonuses aside, is to be a little showroom for all you're achievments whether thats titles or material items like weapons and armour.

I didn't spend 2 years of my life and spend thousands of hours playing GW only to find that i cant add my most prized and expensive weapons into my HoM, my personal showroom.

If you wan't to add you're crappy req9 blue items or generic gold skinned items into you're HoM then fair play to you mate. But don't knock people for wanting to actually show off the rewards for their time. I didn't just produce tormented weapons out my arse, i grinded, i farmed, i pugged and i died obtaining the gold to be able to afford them.

Frank Dudenstein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
For them to do this will de value all the hard work people, including myself have done to gain a full weps rack.
Every accomplishment in this game has been devalued over time. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Double weekends, Ursan, and a multitude of other things have contributed to this, and there's no reason to think that this will be any different.

BTW .. this happens in pretty much every other game too. Heck, it happens in pretty much every area of LIFE, so you had better get used to it. The first to do things always looks impressive at the time, but as time goes on and people adapt and things change, it looks less and less impressive. Just the way it is.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
If they now make hom weps open to more variaties, then all those who have 11+ destroyer weps dedicated are completely screwed.

100% screwed up, and thrown into a waste paper bin.

For them to do this will de value all the hard work people, including myself have done to gain a full weps rack.
Your hard work was already devaluated by 60%. Cry about that.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
If they now make hom weps open to more variaties, then all those who have 11+ destroyer weps dedicated are completely screwed.

100% screwed up, and thrown into a waste paper bin.

For them to do this will de value all the hard work people, including myself have done to gain a full weps rack.
No sympathy at all. It wasn't a race - there's at least a year until anyone "needs" to have their monuments filled. If you decided to buy 11 Destroyer weapons straight away, I'd assume you liked them and planned on using them. Otherwise, why buy, when you didn't have to?

I wasted some cash on a few weapons myself, but I'm not going to condemn ANet for listening. We all knew it was a possibility they would respond to the many complaints on this issue.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Great idea...I just wonder if they'll simply make it that you just need one of the options for each category of weapon, so you can have a nice variety.

For example, you could have a tormented scythe/sword/axe/bow/hammer/spear + a destroyer wand/staff/shield/focus/daggers and your hall would be counted as being "full".

Kyuuzo

Kyuuzo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Somewhere on Earth

Legion of Wolfsong

P/

Great...After i've spent a lot of money on 11 destroyer weaps, they do this... :thumbsdown:

Res Ipsi

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Dudenstein
Every accomplishment in this game has been devalued over time. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Double weekends, Ursan, and a multitude of other things have contributed to this, and there's no reason to think that this will be any different.

BTW .. this happens in pretty much every other game too. Heck, it happens in pretty much every area of LIFE, so you had better get used to it. The first to do things always looks impressive at the time, but as time goes on and people adapt and things change, it looks less and less impressive. Just the way it is.
QFT. At one time, getting a University degree was considered all that, now Ph.D.s are a dime a dozen. As far as I'm concerned, the "value" of your achievement depreciates as soon as you drive it off the lot, so it better be something that you did for yourself, because no one else gives a hoot.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Announcement:
no weapons allowed except for destroyer.

amazins.

(itll happen)

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

R/

Quote:
No sympathy at all. It wasn't a race - there's at least a year until anyone "needs" to have their monuments filled. If you decided to buy 11 Destroyer weapons straight away, I'd assume you liked them and planned on using them. Otherwise, why buy, when you didn't have to?

Sorry that would be the same as saying, why get armor for all your heros now, or why max titles out now, or get mini's

It all comes down to the same thing, filling and maxing your HoM.

i didnt need the weapons, my heros will probs use them, though they didnt need them, but just like everyone else is grinding titles/armor/pets out this is on the same level.

Trying to fill HoM

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

Tbh I find it a bit harsh on the people that have already filled out the Destroyer Weps if they decide to change it, but im not really fussed.

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
imo tomented stuff is as much butt ugly, as most of the destroyer items... and as said, I'm against tormented weapons. Rich players should not get rewarded more, than neccessary...
And those weapons are only for super rich players, because it requires lots of money to get one of those butt ugly shit weapons, far more, than for destroyer weapons...
Only for the super rich????? You're kidding, right? I have a tormented Shield and I'm hardly rich. I have a grand total of 200k in storage plus a fair amount of materials and dyes. I think that puts me squarely in the upper middle class of GW. I can buy almost any item ingame that I want excluding the multi-million dollar minipets.

I spotted a torment shield on a player about a year and a half ago and I loved it. I had never seen one before and I thought it looked awesome. I headed over to wiki and learned where I could get one. At the time, I didn't have any characters towards the end of Nightfall so I wasn't able to get one.

Instead of whining about a shield I couldn't have, I simply started playing NF some more and gradually got my Ele and Warrior thru. I then found out that I couldn't join any DOA teams without a high ranked Ursan. Ok, I whined a bit about that, but I also worked hard on my LB and Ursan titles and eventually started getting into DOA groups and just last month I earned my 60th gemstone and picked up my own Torment Shield.

I'm not rich. I didn't buy a single gemstone. I farmed them all. So just because you see a player with a torment weapon, don't assume they are some rich stuck-up prick. It's very easy to acquire the weapons and armor you desire if you are willing to do the research to find out what materials are required and start farming the areas that produce those items. No need to be "super rich".

Ok, that's my rant the day. I'm sure I'll have a new one tomorrow.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
Sorry that would be the same as saying, why get armor for all your heros now, or why max titles out now, or get mini's

It all comes down to the same thing, filling and maxing your HoM.

i didnt need the weapons, my heros will probs use them, though they didnt need them, but just like everyone else is grinding titles/armor/pets out this is on the same level.

Trying to fill HoM
Some of those things take time and clearly need advance work if you want a full HoM. Others (weapons and armour in particular), just require that you save the cash for them. I've bought 4 armours, because I like them. I'll buy a fifth shortly before GW2, because any sooner and I'm wasting space. I've also bought most of the minis I intend to put in, because there's something of an "opportunity" factor there (get them when I see them at a good price).

We don't even know if "filling" a monument is required or particularly useful for GW2. If it grants 1:1 weapon unlocks, it might turn out to be better buying HoM weapons across several characters, for instance. There was and is always a huge chance of investing in the wrong stuff, until we know more about the GW2 rewards. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, it's just you could have seen this coming!

It's also worth pointing out that we still don't know how ANet intends to change the monument - it might turn out to be something lame that leaves you happy to keep your Destroyer collection! Hopefully not, of course. But then maybe they could allow Destroyer weapons to be "returned" for a refund (here's hoping ).

Twonaiver

Twonaiver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

S??o Paulo Brasil

R/

does anyone have a log of this conversation, was there anything else beside the weapons stuff ?

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

Go Go Sorrows Furnace Greens!

rkubik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

My guess is green weapons.

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

What you people all forget is that it doesn't matter worth a flying crap what someone has in their HoM. You're only going to see it if you go into their HoM with them, and I'm guessing not many people stand around in EotN yelling "WTS run to uber leet duped ecto/armbrace HoM for 1k - come and stand and feel like your stuff is devalued!"

If you don't like it, then don't dedicate stuff there, and don't bitch about others who do. I don't care about the HoM because from what I've heard, GW2 is just another non-instanced MMO. Of those, there are millions already...many of them free to download and play. It loses what grabbed me and made me want to keep playing, so I for one am unlikely to play it.

If you're planning to play it, well good luck. Go spend your money on tormented weapons, or perfect r9s, or greens. Or don't, and quit whining about it.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Although Regina has been far more careful about what she says then Galie ever was, I'm still doubtful. We've heard a lot of stuff in chats that never came through. Don't hold your breath.

BladeWind

BladeWind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Ice Wastes in the Underworld.

The Renegades Of Ascalon

E/

Why does this always happen,

Why do people insist on complaining for complainings sake, this is a bonus nothing more, it is free. What is more it isnt even out yet, secondly the people with destroyer weapons whats the problem? you have a "full" monument, nothing lost on your part, the cash you spent was your desision alone.

I am not rich, if they did add torment weapons ect i would not be able to get them, but destroyer weapons, regardless of looks would still fill my hom if i desired to fill it to a degree.

Please, talk and discuss about it by all means, but dont let this devolve into a thread of flaming. keep on topic "what are your guesses"

Daniel

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Tormented weapons plz... I hate destroyer and at least tormented looks good.

EroChrono

EroChrono

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Netherlands

[WitB]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
imo tomented stuff is as much butt ugly, as most of the destroyer items... and as said, I'm against tormented weapons. Rich players should not get rewarded more, than neccessary...
And those weapons are only for super rich players, because it requires lots of money to get one of those butt ugly shit weapons, far more, than for destroyer weapons...
How exactly is this any different than Monument of Resilience, where you can only display elite armor?
The point of of HoM is keeping your accomplishments and carry those over to GW2, of course what is and what is not an accomplishment varies per player, but you just need to set certain standards in order to make it a smooth process to gain benefit from those items GW2. You can't expect ANet employees to rate every single random item a player displays and determine how much benefit they gain from it in GW2.

So is a tormented item an accomplishment? Maybe, maybe not, but it's for damn sure a gold req 12 water wand is not an accomplishment. And if you would open the monument to whatever a player wants to display, those items would probably end up there.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

New weapons the require EFFORT (not time) and are UNTRADEABLE please~

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
New weapons the require EFFORT (not time) and are UNTRADEABLE please~
That would be awesome.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

They wont put Deldrimor in without the rest of the endgame ones so im guessing every endgame weapon and maybe probably tormented.

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

I totally forgot about you can craft deldrimor weps, I would put my money on that going into HoM

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
New weapons the require EFFORT (not time) and are UNTRADEABLE please~
That would be awesomeness!

A reward for skillfull and fun gameplay void of repetition! Ah, who am i kidding ...

(You know, we have those, BMP weapons ... Time to put them to use? HM BMP, anyone? )

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adja1005
If i put a lot of effort and time into accumulating a horde of gold and spend lots of it on high end items i want to be able to show that expensive "bling" off to people in my HoM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRaven
I also worked hard on my LB and Ursan titles and eventually started getting into DOA groups and just last month I earned my 60th gemstone and picked up my own Torment Shield.
Ursan=little effort

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
New weapons the require EFFORT (not time) and are UNTRADEABLE please~
I couldn't agree more.

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

WOW!1 This is the most exciting thing I've heard since the Deldrimor weapon crafter.

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Tormented probably, maybe Deldrimor. I dont care about HoM anyways.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Lol Destroyer weapon market will CRASH!!! I want to put my emerald blade and magmas shield!! Tormented and Delimedor items and BMP items

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

I think it'll be the end game weapons, hence why they recently added a set for Prophecies.

Zsig

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Deldrimor (Prophecies)
Tormented (Night Fall)
Zodiac (Factions)

A crafter would then be needed at the end of Urgoz Warren / The Deep to craft such zodiac weapons. Also, while they're there, add Zodiac Spear and Scythe. Maybe such items could require both amber and jadeite, who knows.

This is my guess.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zsig
Zodiac (Factions)
Why Zodiac? Those aren't the only skins limited to factions, there are also celestial and such. (I would suggest celestial before zodiac) It would be really interesting if they added in an end game factions crafter!!!

Voltaic Annihilator

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

E/Me

Maybe they will have diffrent racks, one for destroyer, one for tormented, one for deldrimore, one for ppl that have all the money in the world

Coraline Jones

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Modified Soul Society

Mo/R

If you look at how Guild Wars changes, the typical move is to add value to items that normally have none. For instance, consumables has boosted the value of some materials which previously had zero trade value. Maybe not a lot due to heavy farming, but enough to make some difference. In another example, Zaishen Keys started off as an interesting concept, but after several months nobody cared about them and the prices started to bomb. Last I saw they were approaching 2K each... I.e., almost worthless given that lockpicks sell for 1.25K. GW added a new title and emote, and now you can easily find buyers willing to trade ecto for them.

Right now, end-game greens have very low trade value and somebody (preferably yourself) would actually have to beat the game to actually get them. I would not be surprised if Deldrimor weapons were added not just to give fans something that they requested for a long time, but also so that all three regular campaigns now have an end-game green, and therefore any Guild Wars owner can submit their end-game weapons to the HoM.

The Tormented Weapons might make it into the HoM, but from what I can tell, Armbraces of Truth are still worth a lot of money, so I don't see what would be the point of trying to boost their value.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

I'd like to put my starter weapons in there.

aTT!kus

aTT!kus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

U.S.

[FluX]

W/

i think any end game weapon that can be crafted as a gold will be added to HoM, it only makes sense

dwc89

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

earth

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Keep people playing till GW2 rolls out and make them pissed enough at GW1 so that they will quite GW1 for GW2

Or piss em off enough to pass on GW2.

I said earlier this is prob a good thing, although really late. Elite area wepons imo, zodiacs, eternal, etc.

The whole HoM is designed around 1 character, titles, wepons, etc. So pick a char you really love, and go until it is all filled up. And if XX # of titles isn't enough, we may add more - just to keep you interested.