I hate vanquishing
crazybanshee
Yea I learned pretty quick to check for any glitches or crap before I vanquished an area, having been screwed by both the 'disappearing mob' trick and the junundu smash down the pillar oops you have no adrenaline trick.
Joe Fierce
after going back and waiting for the pansies to flee for the portal i was sucessful.
btw anet, mines bigger
btw anet, mines bigger
fenix
Anyway, things like this make me not want to finish Vanquishing 
Oh also, what build did you use? I'm intrigued.
Oh also, what build did you use? I'm intrigued.
Nessar
Happened to me too, I was so pissed x.x I prolly won't VQ that again for a while <<
glacialphoenix
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Originally Posted by crazybanshee
Vanquishing is a bear but can give you a sense of accomplishment. That one area of the shiverpeaks that had sooooper fast mino patrols was a bear to do, because you couldn't catch the damn things. Although, imho the worst part of vanquishing (before the rampant consumables and gwen skills etc) was getting 99% of an area done then coming up on some impossible boss/huge group of enemies and getting booted for dp. ugh.
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Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by fenix
Anyway, things like this make me not want to finish Vanquishing
Oh also, what build did you use? I'm intrigued. |
Mortal Amongst Mere Gods
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
Somthing similair happened to be in Sulferous wastes, forgot about the enemies to the very north where you can only access them through jug smashing a pilliar, finally realised where they were only after i killed everything else on the map, and i couldn't reach them because adrenaline is needed to smash it and no enemies=no adreniline. -3 hours>< wasnt offended jsut disgusted and a bit annoyed. |
On topic: I just vanquished Talus Chute a couple days ago starting from Drok's and didn't have this problem. However, I've heard similar bugs with North Kryta Province and a few other areas. It'd really help if ANet changed it.
fenix
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
well when i'm with another human and heroes on those rare occasions i run a friggin condition heavy, and that build is up on guru somewhere. When I'm all by my lonesome, a mm, i run BHA or glass arrows with splinter, an ele or ss depending on the zone, and a warrior or a SoR necro, kinda depends, i switch it up a bit.
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Deleet
After x time in a zone and the party has killed 95%+ of the creeps, the remaining creeps ought to move to some specific spot or just to the player.
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by fenix
Song of Resto on a nec? Or am I missing something?
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Davros Uitar
I remember when me and guildie did the vanquish of Talus a couple of months ago. We split up and wandered everywhere looking for a group - then we read the notes about the glitch (Doh).
We both started racing for the Icedome portal. My guildie got there and tried to attack them to turn them around but they just zoned through before he could reach them. I was just catching a glimpse of it all from long range and was screaming Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!.
Then wonder of wonders up comes the big golden mask and we got awarded the vanquish
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So after my experience I am not entirely sure if this is still really a glitch or not. Its a very hard thing to prove one way or the other. We had found an ice-imp patrol about 5 mins earlier that was in an area we had covered at least twice before (in fact we had even killed an earlier group at that location).
So from all that, I would not be so certain that you did get everything and that the glitch is still functioning. Maybe you missed that patrol and you do Anet an injustice - and maybe you don't.
Cheers
Davros
We both started racing for the Icedome portal. My guildie got there and tried to attack them to turn them around but they just zoned through before he could reach them. I was just catching a glimpse of it all from long range and was screaming Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!.
Then wonder of wonders up comes the big golden mask and we got awarded the vanquish
.So after my experience I am not entirely sure if this is still really a glitch or not. Its a very hard thing to prove one way or the other. We had found an ice-imp patrol about 5 mins earlier that was in an area we had covered at least twice before (in fact we had even killed an earlier group at that location).
So from all that, I would not be so certain that you did get everything and that the glitch is still functioning. Maybe you missed that patrol and you do Anet an injustice - and maybe you don't.
Cheers
Davros
pumpkin pie
if they zone thru the portal, the game should have register it as they are gone/dead, thats what I get in Delrimor Bowl, there were 6 ettins waiting at the exit to Griffon's Mouth from a quest, when I approached them, they run thru the portal and I have the area vanquished. maybe you have some thing else not done?
now, try running around Salt Flats looking at corals like plant and ship carcases ROFL I AM GOIN INSANE for 7 hours, Salt Flats, SALT FLATS! i hate those storm rider, they are floating away so fast and running around everywhere! I do believe this place was once underwater!
now, try running around Salt Flats looking at corals like plant and ship carcases ROFL I AM GOIN INSANE for 7 hours, Salt Flats, SALT FLATS! i hate those storm rider, they are floating away so fast and running around everywhere! I do believe this place was once underwater!
korcan
When hard mode was first introduced, I remember vanquishing Saoshang Trail and realising that it so wasn't my thing.
Reading all these horror stories just reconfirms my decision.
Reading all these horror stories just reconfirms my decision.
jeanne p
I have VQ everything with my necro 100% H/H, It was so long that i'm disgusted. I'll never do it again with another character.
But looking for a more exciting challenge for my necro, I decided to solo VQ with no armor, no skill and no weapon...
I failed.
Have a nice day.
Jeanne
But looking for a more exciting challenge for my necro, I decided to solo VQ with no armor, no skill and no weapon...
I failed.
Have a nice day.
Jeanne
Kanyatta
I've vanquished a few areas around Ascalon, just getting ready for Vanquisher title, and I decided to start on Nightfall, doing the Plains of Jarin. Now, before I begin this story, I must point out, in the 3 years I've had Guild Wars, I've only error 7'd about a dozen times and my game has never outright crashed.
I looked up on wiki for any anomalies and found none, and the average monster count was 198. After about a half hour, I had 196. I ran around for a few minutes and found the group I missed, 2 skales or something. I engaged them and proceeded to kill the first, as the second one was dying, I error 7. I got scared for a sec, but I just hit the reconnect button. Upon reconnecting to the game, Guild Wars crashes. Big sarcastic "wow..." from me. Anyway, I boot Guild Wars back up, hoping that they give me the Vanquish, because that 2nd skale was dead as far as I could tell. I press M... silly me, I'm still in Normal Mode. So, I press the Hard Mode button on the party window, and what happens but Guild Wars crashes again. So, I do a restart, boot Guild Wars back up... again. Hit Hard Mode, press M, and... not vanquished. There goes about 40 minutes of my life...
I looked up on wiki for any anomalies and found none, and the average monster count was 198. After about a half hour, I had 196. I ran around for a few minutes and found the group I missed, 2 skales or something. I engaged them and proceeded to kill the first, as the second one was dying, I error 7. I got scared for a sec, but I just hit the reconnect button. Upon reconnecting to the game, Guild Wars crashes. Big sarcastic "wow..." from me. Anyway, I boot Guild Wars back up, hoping that they give me the Vanquish, because that 2nd skale was dead as far as I could tell. I press M... silly me, I'm still in Normal Mode. So, I press the Hard Mode button on the party window, and what happens but Guild Wars crashes again. So, I do a restart, boot Guild Wars back up... again. Hit Hard Mode, press M, and... not vanquished. There goes about 40 minutes of my life...
Stuart444
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta
I've vanquished a few areas around Ascalon, just getting ready for Vanquisher title, and I decided to start on Nightfall, doing the Plains of Jarin. Now, before I begin this story, I must point out, in the 3 years I've had Guild Wars, I've only error 7'd about a dozen times and my game has never outright crashed.
I looked up on wiki for any anomalies and found none, and the average monster count was 198. After about a half hour, I had 196. I ran around for a few minutes and found the group I missed, 2 skales or something. I engaged them and proceeded to kill the first, as the second one was dying, I error 7. I got scared for a sec, but I just hit the reconnect button. Upon reconnecting to the game, Guild Wars crashes. Big sarcastic "wow..." from me. Anyway, I boot Guild Wars back up, hoping that they give me the Vanquish, because that 2nd skale was dead as far as I could tell. I press M... silly me, I'm still in Normal Mode. So, I press the Hard Mode button on the party window, and what happens but Guild Wars crashes again. So, I do a restart, boot Guild Wars back up... again. Hit Hard Mode, press M, and... not vanquished. There goes about 40 minutes of my life... |
Paul Dawg
You're talking about Norrhart Domains.
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Originally Posted by glacialphoenix
Admittedly this is in GWEN proper, but I know someone who got supremely frustrated with his Legendary Master of the North because he was trying to vanquish - was it Bjora Marches? - the place with the infamous unkillable Jotun. Poor sod tried thrice, and finally got lucky on the third.
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glacialphoenix
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Originally Posted by Paul Dawg
You're talking about Norrhart Domains.
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shoyon456
Oh man, after vanquishing all of tyria and cantha, I just can't find the inspiration to wrap up Elona.
Lucky enough, from what I have done in Elona, it is the most interesting continent (to me) in the vanquishing lineup. I cleared the area the OP talked about with no problems.
One thing I suggest in vanquishing is sliding along the edge while holding ctrl to look for enemies. If i see none around me i sweep back and forth (still holding ctrl) through the map, and if there are none in the direction, i pull away to avoid triggering popups. Although, Elona has been much different from tyria and cantha so far... :/
Lucky enough, from what I have done in Elona, it is the most interesting continent (to me) in the vanquishing lineup. I cleared the area the OP talked about with no problems.
One thing I suggest in vanquishing is sliding along the edge while holding ctrl to look for enemies. If i see none around me i sweep back and forth (still holding ctrl) through the map, and if there are none in the direction, i pull away to avoid triggering popups. Although, Elona has been much different from tyria and cantha so far... :/
Dr.Jones
vanquishing isnt fun imo i have done it at least 4-5 times every time i get Bord out of my mind, looking for that last foe.
odly
I have done Cantha and I've just finished Elona.
I'm 21/54 in Tyria from various guild outings.
Most of my guildies have finished theirs so I'm doubting to do Tyria or not.
I once spend 30 min looking arround for the last foe. Walking acros an entire area again. To discover a level 3 tiger who had turned red somehow.
I fired all my heroes and henchies on the spot. Hitting a level 3 tiger without killing it is an unforgivable failure.
VQn really should have an arrow pointing towards the nearest enemy from the moment you've killed more than 75% of the monsters. It's about killing them, not finding them.
I'm 21/54 in Tyria from various guild outings.
Most of my guildies have finished theirs so I'm doubting to do Tyria or not.
I once spend 30 min looking arround for the last foe. Walking acros an entire area again. To discover a level 3 tiger who had turned red somehow.
I fired all my heroes and henchies on the spot. Hitting a level 3 tiger without killing it is an unforgivable failure.
VQn really should have an arrow pointing towards the nearest enemy from the moment you've killed more than 75% of the monsters. It's about killing them, not finding them.
pumpkin pie
somehow lots of people are against ideas like this odly. its been suggested, same as explorers , when you are at 99% there should be something that tells you where/what you've missed ....
rick1027
problem there is a guy who hides in the middle of that stretch you missed
newbie_of_doom
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Originally Posted by Siadena
I wish vanquishing - and mapping for that matter - had a small %age or allowance of missed enemies/areas. Like 5-10 and 1% - give or take - would make those title tracks soooo less frustrating - and pointlessly so since again, you're missing like 3-4 enemies. Every other vanquish run I do I have to go on a 20-40 minute hunt for the last one or two, gets sooooo old.
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I vanquished a few areas too. You don't have to you know. If it really frustrates you just don't. And as some guy earlier said, there's no patrols in that area. So if you have any cartho titles, I think you don't deserve them. And also, if you use some common sense, it won't take you THAT long to track a patrol down.
emerson
If you methodically go into an area then vanquishing is not all that difficult.
If you have walked the entire area going in one direction and are still missing a few, walk back the opposite direction you went when vanquishing. 99% of the time you will run into the patrol you missed in a short amount of time.
How you spend 50min walking around an area and not finding an enemy is kind of puzzling. Most areas dont take much more than that to vanquish.
If you have walked the entire area going in one direction and are still missing a few, walk back the opposite direction you went when vanquishing. 99% of the time you will run into the patrol you missed in a short amount of time.
How you spend 50min walking around an area and not finding an enemy is kind of puzzling. Most areas dont take much more than that to vanquish.
pumpkin pie
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Originally Posted by emerson
If you methodically go into an area then vanquishing is not all that difficult.
If you have walked the entire area going in one direction and are still missing a few, walk back the opposite direction you went when vanquishing. 99% of the time you will run into the patrol you missed in a short amount of time. How you spend 50min walking around an area and not finding an enemy is kind of puzzling. Most areas dont take much more than that to vanquish. |
odly
Looking for them shouldn't be the point of the exercise anyway.
How about : "When you enter an explorable zone in HM, you get a temporary 'vanquish area X' quest that you can activate through the quest window. This quest will have the usual green arrow and green star pointing towards unvanquished foes in your area."
I don't care if it's the nearest or not as long as it will point towards unvanquished foes it will help finding that last patrol/group you've missed.
How about : "When you enter an explorable zone in HM, you get a temporary 'vanquish area X' quest that you can activate through the quest window. This quest will have the usual green arrow and green star pointing towards unvanquished foes in your area."
I don't care if it's the nearest or not as long as it will point towards unvanquished foes it will help finding that last patrol/group you've missed.
isildorbiafra
How about just pressing the control and alt key and presto all enemys in the area are shown!
Paul Dawg
Another way to do it would have been to target one of the margonites above you and do Junundu Siege (which is an energy skill, not an adrenaline skill). That knocks down the pillar too.
Too late now, I guess.
Too late now, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
Somthing similair happened to be in Sulferous wastes, forgot about the enemies to the very north where you can only access them through jug smashing a pilliar, finally realised where they were only after i killed everything else on the map, and i couldn't reach them because adrenaline is needed to smash it and no enemies=no adreniline. -3 hours>< wasnt offended jsut disgusted and a bit annoyed. |
PreciousMocha
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Originally Posted by rick1027
problem there is a guy who hides in the middle of that stretch you missed
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I agree with others that there should be some type of percentage allowed for the last few or an indicator of the general area in which a mob might be.
Davros Uitar
I don't think it should be made too easy (ie by having finding skills etc) but one thing that would encourage people sticking with the vanquish is a simple message that comes up when there are only 5 thinks left to kill. That way you know how many there are to find, and how viable it is to split up and scatter your hunting party.
Paul Dawg
Just look at the kill bar! It should be easy to gauge approximately how many groups you have left to kill.
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Originally Posted by Davros Uitar
I don't think it should be made too easy (ie by having finding skills etc) but one thing that would encourage people sticking with the vanquish is a simple message that comes up when there are only 5 thinks left to kill. That way you know how many there are to find, and how viable it is to split up and scatter your hunting party.
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obsidian ectoplasm
This happond to me a coupel of times but what happons to me is
there is 1 last group and i cant killl them
there is 1 last group and i cant killl them
super strokey
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Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm
This happond to me a coupel of times but what happons to me is
there is 1 last group and i cant killl them |