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bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

19 May 2008 at 14:31 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davros Uitar

This one made me smile - we had the same problem at Anvil rock

- that group of sprinting monotaurs that does the full circuit. You need 2 speed boosts to catch them and what party goes HM vanquish with 6 man and puts 2 speed boosts on a member. After chasing them and failing for about 10 mins we parked 5 members in one spot and I went and chased thier asses clean around the circle. Twas painful, but not as bad as repeating things would have been.

Yes! hated those minos with a passion. It almost felt like they spawned right at the edge of my radar and then ran off. Never did figure out their full patrol path. We did the same thing. Parked part of the group up along their path and that delayed them long enough for my chasing group to catch up and finish them off. Course it would have helped to know about this evil, evil patrol... Someone go Wiki it to further devalue the VQ title for everyone else.

Brian Fellow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

[STAR]

Rt/

19 May 2008 at 14:36 - 82

Minotaur patrols are the worst in Northern shiverpeaks, they have the increased speed + sprint to outrun you and they patrol across then ENTIRE freakin map.

I even lagged out in Diessa Lowlands with about 200 kills and probably 100 more to go that really made me mad.

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/W

19 May 2008 at 14:38 - 83

^ Tyrian maps are always a pain to vanquish: big map, too many paths. I always spend 2 -3 hours on a map. On the upside, vanquishing helps alot with your cartographer titles.

Apoc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal, Canada

Quebekers Alliance [QKA]

W/

19 May 2008 at 14:43 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by distilledwill

I H/Hed this area a few weeks ago and the same group eluded me for quite a while. I dont mind trying to find the final group, if you are comprehensive then its not usually a problem.

If you hate vanquishing, then don't vanquish. Job done.

Uh, did I say I hated vanquishing or even complained about it?

trankle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

BloodBath & Beyond

Rt/

19 May 2008 at 14:50 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esan

My point is not that you set your sights on these rewards, which are in the end paltry and don't justify the time spent to earn them. My point is that at least a reward exists and is theoretically attainable. Vanquishing, cartography, guardian, and the rest of the grind titles have no reward whatsoever. The title is no longer enough of a reward, as it just means you'll be one of the thousands who also have it.

Yeesh.

No title has ever had any prestige. This is a video game. At the end of the day, the reward for completing a title is enjoyment. It may be hard to grasp, but satisfaction and enjoyment are motivators for many players.

Anyone looking for prestige or a tangible reward from a video game is delusional.

voltz_Maker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Lost

E/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:44 - 86

No one likes to vanquish. But we are doing it for title.You can spend hours and hours killing monsters to vanquish an area. Sometime, when it comes to the LAST MOB, you can spend more time looking for it than doing the full vanq. Today, I was vanquishing Turai's Procession with 3x necro/hench. I spent 45 minutes and my bar was 99% completed. I tried to look for the last mob for more than 1 hour and I still didn't find it. Then, I ragequit.

I don't know if this thing only happens to me or it is pretty common for everyone.

scythefromunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

CA

Tears Of The Ascended [ToA]

21 Jun 2008 at 20:46 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by voltz_Maker

No one likes to vanquish. But we are doing it for title.You can spend hours and hours killing monsters to vanquish an area. Sometime, when it comes to the LAST MOB, you can spend more time looking for it than doing the full vanq. Today, I was vanquishing Turai's Procession with 3x necro/hench. I spent 45 minutes and my bar was 99% completed. I tried to look for the last mob for more than 1 hour and I still didn't find it. Then, I ragequit.

I don't know if this thing only happens to me or it is pretty common for everyone.

If you bothered to search before making the thread, im sure youd find a couple of people that had the same problem and ended up /ragequitting.

BigT

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Emmisaries of Hard Mode

W/Mo

21 Jun 2008 at 20:46 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by voltz_Maker

No one likes to vanquish.

You couldnt be more wrong, i love vanquishing and alot of the people i know love to vanquish, so think before you make broad statements

Horus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

www.godtguild.com

Blades Of Burning Shadows [GoDT]-leader

Mo/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:48 - 89

did only few vanquished so far, at least 1 month break between every run >< yes, that's because i hate spending my time searching for that last mob and then not find it/disconnect while fightin it(yes, happened to me twice that i disconnected after searched full map taking 5mins~ to find last mob and then d/c and return to outpost - no idea why i didn't re log back into area...). So yes, happens to me too often to bother with vanquishing

Omnidragon42

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

W/A

21 Jun 2008 at 20:52 - 90

I enjoyed it. I like killing things ^_^

Aztec Mijo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[LaZy]

W/E

21 Jun 2008 at 23:03 - 91

vanquishing is fun but one of the most suspenseful parts is killing what u think is the last foe.

i usually use an essence of celerity for the sake of speed and, if need be, to help me search the map faster.

also when i vanquish i keep track of spots where i've likely missed a mob or i thought i spotted a patrol moving away.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Jun 2008 at 23:09 - 92

/Sigh.

I know it exists and you want it to feel the essence of progression, but you don't necesarily require this to be honest.

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

21 Jun 2008 at 23:33 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by scythefromunder

If you bothered to search before making the thread, im sure youd find a couple of people that had the same problem and ended up /ragequitting.

i believe he did use search and that's how he found this thread. maybe you meant before he made this post.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

21 Jun 2008 at 23:34 - 94

My problem with vanquishing is henchmen. When I go with a friend/guildy + 6 heroes it's always a breeze (especially with double sabway).

However, when henchmen are the only ones available they're often pretty rubbish. In parts of Tyria (e.g. around Sanctum Cay) there are mobs of skales each with Chilblains and Fire Imps with Rodgort's Invocation. Alesia then comes to the rescue with Healing Touch and Healing Breeze.

/partywipe.

Screw it. I'm a legendary poacher now anyway. Time to work on legendary wall-hugger.

jaymat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lack of Talent [Luck]

21 Jun 2008 at 23:42 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

lol, I see it.

Near the lower-left portal to the next city, you can see a small passage from the portal to the body of water directly above it. It looks like an "L".

Ctrl + Alt + good eyes help.

thats the same guy i had trouble finding when i did it. took me bout 10mins to find him. a trick btw is to send ur heroes into different locations. if he dies u know where to go

кιωι

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Doom] recruiting aussie/kiwi/euro for HM, PM

22 Jun 2008 at 00:18 - 96

No, its more the fact you use tri-nec

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

22 Jun 2008 at 00:19 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaymat

a trick btw is to send ur heroes into different locations. if he dies u know where to go

Thats evil. Your evil!

Anyways, I love vanquishing ^^ so those who say no one does, dead, o so dead, wrong

. Although, the last groups can be a pain, darn ninja monsters.

Mark Nevermiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

22 Jun 2008 at 00:37 - 98

Obviously some of us just do not share Anet's ideas of fun sometimes. When HM got first introduced I went to Vanquish that very same area.. well suffice it to say I have never attempted to vanquish anything since.

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

22 Jun 2008 at 03:07 - 99

Went to vanquish Talus Chute, I ran around for almost 2 hours trying to find the last monster to kill..never found it ._.

Ambuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

22 Jun 2008 at 03:34 - 100

Worst experience for me: Grawls in Ascalon

The Ulodytes heal and run, heal and run. They never stop. then the grawls team up and take out my heroes

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

22 Jun 2008 at 09:53 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambuu

Worst experience for me: Grawls in Ascalon

The Ulodytes heal and run, heal and run. They never stop. then the grawls team up and take out my heroes

Try starting from Yaks bend or ToA and taking advantage of the larger party size...

I really like vanquishing, regardless of where it is...even when I got to Rotscale...and those monk bosses...

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

22 Jun 2008 at 10:23 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nessar

Went to vanquish Talus Chute, I ran around for almost 2 hours trying to find the last monster to kill..never found it ._.

There are 2 rather easy to miss patrols in talus chute:

1. There's a tundra giant patrol all the way in the wast of the area that has a rather large patrol and is easy to miss. I vanquished this area 3 times now, and all 3 times did we miss that patrol.
2. There's an avicara mob that patrols somewhere around the center of the area. It has a pretty large patrol route but if you just circle around the center a bit you will eventually run into them.

Oh, and vanquishing is fun

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

22 Jun 2008 at 10:24 - 103

I love it, it's one of my favourite things to do in GW. I did Majesty's Rest the other night and it was the bf's first time going up against Rotscale... it makes good times. We'd never have been motivated to go look in that area if we weren't working on vanquish.

For the original idea though, sometimes I wish there were a consumable to find the last monsters. Essence of Tracking or something. But then I think it's all part of the fun ;-)

willypiggy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/Mo

22 Jun 2008 at 10:31 - 104

yea, I was in sulfurous wastes and there is an area you cant get to unless you have a skill which requires full adrenaline, I went to that area last thinking that I could get around somehow but ended up being 6 mobs from vanquishing, it sucks

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

22 Jun 2008 at 18:52 - 105

Vanquishing = the ultimate grind.

So I'm with you, I hate vanquishing too.

Sir Owns Alot EP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

[Town]

P/W

22 Jun 2008 at 22:59 - 106

I was once Vanquishing an area in NF, connection went out when I finally found the last group. Needless to say, I was angry.

If I ever decide to Vanquish again, I've only done 8 total areas, I plan on dropping a Nuclear Bomb on the area, since Nuclear Weapons solve all of our problems.

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

23 Jun 2008 at 03:24 - 107

Meh Vanquishing is fun when your boored and when you just need little more cash

Well if thats true i've been boored 50times O.o

darkdreamr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

beyond the yellow brick road

She Left With Half My [GeAr]

Me/

23 Jun 2008 at 04:23 - 108

1) "Anyone looking for prestige or tangible rewards from video games is delusional." QFT

2) Those damn minos just sprint around the mountain all day, freaking annoying

3) Wish I had done most of my vanquishing after they introduced the (still paltry) cash rewards.

4) It may have cost me dozens of plat in donations to the avatar of balthazar but I got you Rotscale, so suck on it with your sucky bone dragon friends.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

23 Jun 2008 at 06:00 - 109

ooooh man i had 1 or 2 more groups to find today in a vanq. I dc'd, and then i couldn't see where i have been after i reconnected. That really sucks.

I did complete it though

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

23 Jun 2008 at 07:32 - 110

It's definitely more fun and more efficient when vanquishing with people & heros. A friend and I started out from Yak's Bend one day and about two hours later we had the Eastern Frontier vanquished.

I'm done with the title and I still have fun going out with people (even total strangers!) clearing zones. The only regret I have is that the last mob I faced to finish the LV title was a bit anti-climactic. We were in Joko's domain and we ended it by squashing 4 or 5 bugs with our Worms. yawn.

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/W

23 Jun 2008 at 07:37 - 111

^ you should done Majesty's Rest last. It is orgasmic when you vanquished it.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

23 Jun 2008 at 07:46 - 112

I watched my husband vanquish anvil rock....he had cleared it preetttty good (only had a small minotaur patrol to find)....however, that last patrol he had seen but could never catch! so he would lose them along the way....retrace his route and not find them....took about an hour to find those last few---and even wiki says:

"To receive credit for the Vanquisher title track in this area you must defeat 137-253 monsters in Hard Mode. This is a hard area to earn vanquisher because of the large number of fast minotaur groups with very large patrol patterns. Finding the last few groups can be challenging, as they may have moved into areas you have previously cleared."

I usually just dont vanquish... I will kill stuff in hard mode but since I dont really care about those titles I dont really worry if I miss stuff....

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

23 Jun 2008 at 07:53 - 113

Hey, who doesn't?

Narcissia

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

BC Canada

Guild With No [NAM???]

23 Jun 2008 at 07:56 - 114

vanquishing is easy and ive never had much problem tracking down the last few things. usually just run around the map once more and i find them fine. just bad luck when u cant find them i suppose

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

23 Jun 2008 at 08:28 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleikki

Meh Vanquishing is fun when your boored and when you just need little more cash

The problem is that even after vanquishing I STILL need that little extra cash.
Since vanquishing brings in next to nothing.

I used to be very anti-vanquishing - but I've tried it a bit more ... and these days I like the fact that I get to uncover parts of the game I've never seen before.
The whole "kill everything that moves" still is as boring as it always was though.

A bit more on-topic:
Was vanquishing Ice Cliff Chasms yesterday - and I get to the Wurms in the south (I started from Gunnars) - and I had some 3 Wurms spawn on me - I kill one - and finish the area. Although 2 of them were still alive, in my aggro range and being attacked by Oli's minions.
(The fun part really happened when I talk to the guy at the last rez shrine and get my Norn hunter rank 4 - with no more foes to kill.

)

Emissary of Xunlai

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

23 Jun 2008 at 08:48 - 116

Vanquishing is loads of fuuuun.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

23 Jun 2008 at 08:58 - 117

It can be annoying sometimes but also i think its pretty fun and as soon as you've killed the last enemy you feel pretty good. The only problem i have with vanquishing is if you get a disconnect; the 'U' map is wiped so you don't know where you've previously been.

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

23 Jun 2008 at 08:59 - 118

I wish I had a horn I could blow on, so all enemies in one map would come to me to fight an epic battle.

Omnidragon42

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

W/A

23 Jun 2008 at 09:06 - 119

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

The whole "kill everything that moves" still is as boring as it always was though.

That's my favorite way to play the game, has been from the beginning

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

23 Jun 2008 at 12:16 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omnidragon42

That's my favorite way to play the game, has been from the beginning

I was always more of a "try to sneak by if you can" kind of guy.
So the concept of vanquishing is still completely lost on me.