There's an art to travelling across the map systematically so that you don't leave behind little areas where monsters could be hiding. Sure, it can be annoying sometimes, but I never have to spend more than ten minutes looking for the last group--and usually it's a lot less than that. You have to take a minute or two before you go in to study the map and come up with a plan.
Edited to add: I think there should be a special title track for people who vanquish solely with heroes and henchmen. That's what I'm doing now (just finished Cantha), and naturally it's a LOT harder than vanquishing with your guildies and all their souped-up PvE skills. You can forget about gimmicks like Ursan Blessing; you need a real bar if you're hero-hench vanquishing.
I hate vanquishing
Paul Dawg
Tamgi Sun
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dilan155
i wish we had a better reward for vanquishing, i mean you get about 1-2k for half an hour to an hours worth of time vanquishing.
Phoenix Tears
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Don't forget the Mandragors, I see a little spot where you could have missed some.
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pumpkin pie
If you are Vanquishing Deldrimor Bowl, coming from Griffon's Mouth.
little things to take note: only if you come from Griffon's Mouths (I think):
If you already kill 125 foes, and still the vanquishing is not complete, take a run towards the exit to Griffon's Mouths. you don't actually have to kills these snow ettins (I counted 6), but they are there running into Griffon's Mounts. I think it is because of this quest, To Kryta: Refugees
There is also a sentry of 3 shiverpeaks that travels around the helmet icon area.
Numbers of foes for vanquishing Deldrimor Bowl is 125 (on my counter).
Numbers o foes in Griffon's Mouths is around 50 (forgot to look, but was 48 when I was killing the last 2 foes)
Numbers of foes in Scoundrel's Rise is 68
Numbers of foes in Pockmark Flats is 157
Numbers of foes in Regent Valley is 127
I thought the numbers would help in determining which area you want to vanquish in relation to how much time you have to spend but i think you probably can guess by looking at the map :P~
anyway, hope that help.
little things to take note: only if you come from Griffon's Mouths (I think):
If you already kill 125 foes, and still the vanquishing is not complete, take a run towards the exit to Griffon's Mouths. you don't actually have to kills these snow ettins (I counted 6), but they are there running into Griffon's Mounts. I think it is because of this quest, To Kryta: Refugees
There is also a sentry of 3 shiverpeaks that travels around the helmet icon area.
Numbers of foes for vanquishing Deldrimor Bowl is 125 (on my counter).
Numbers o foes in Griffon's Mouths is around 50 (forgot to look, but was 48 when I was killing the last 2 foes)
Numbers of foes in Scoundrel's Rise is 68
Numbers of foes in Pockmark Flats is 157
Numbers of foes in Regent Valley is 127
I thought the numbers would help in determining which area you want to vanquish in relation to how much time you have to spend but i think you probably can guess by looking at the map :P~
anyway, hope that help.
fireflyry
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I spent 50 minutes looking for that last guy, and didnt find him so i just quit.....As you can see ive been everywhere
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shoyon456
I just finished tyrian vanq yesterday, and it was the biggest pain in my life. However I generally grabbed patrols as I saw them, and didn't spend more than 20 mins looking for a group/monster I missed at any time.
I just hate vanquishing cause its the biggest grindfest that displays that you actually have very little skill and alot of time.
I just hate vanquishing cause its the biggest grindfest that displays that you actually have very little skill and alot of time.
Mouse at Large
Maybe there should be an easier title.......
Legendary Tourist - simply visit all all explorable areas
Or maybe not......
Legendary Tourist - simply visit all all explorable areas
Or maybe not......
glacialphoenix
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Maybe there should be an easier title.......
Legendary Tourist - simply visit all all explorable areas Or maybe not...... |
*guilty of snapshotting pretty areas when vanquishing with her friends
Bo Azum
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4) It may have cost me dozens of plat in donations to the avatar of balthazar but I got you Rotscale, so suck on it with your sucky bone dragon friends. |
And the vanquishing ain't too bad, you get to meet old enemy friends, and (sometimes annoyingly long) walks in the park (looking around for that one last critter), but which end with some sort of celebration. No harm done.
pumpkin pie
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No, you'd have to take screenshots of certain parts of each area as well. How can you get Legendary Tourist without bringing back an album full of snapshots?
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:P~ don't ask, I've been collecting since day one
Age
I hate vanquishing to can we get rid of it as well as loot scaling.
thral
Vanquishing is nice, after killing every little critter in some of the areas u get a feeling of acheavement. I have no problems now with finding that last monster cause of how i vanquish, i go along the edge(getting cartographer while im at it) and then work my way in.
Stuart444
I just started vanquishing some areas, vanquished my first area the other day, and that was in Elona, Jahai Bluffs.
Was quite easy although the last patrol took the longest to find. Plus if you get any elite tomes you don't want, sell them for PROFIT >_>
Oh and while vanquishing, you get more % in cartographer title, open chests for treasure hunter title AND in elona, SS/LB points if you haven't maxed it already (I have 7 points left til I get Rank 8 Sunspear now)
Vanquishing is also fun if your in a bad mood and want to kill innocent creatures >.>
Was quite easy although the last patrol took the longest to find. Plus if you get any elite tomes you don't want, sell them for PROFIT >_>
Oh and while vanquishing, you get more % in cartographer title, open chests for treasure hunter title AND in elona, SS/LB points if you haven't maxed it already (I have 7 points left til I get Rank 8 Sunspear now)
Vanquishing is also fun if your in a bad mood and want to kill innocent creatures >.>
miskav
I can't see how people can have so much trouble finding the mobs.
It's logical thinking as to where they are, and not leaving any areas open o.o.
It's logical thinking as to where they are, and not leaving any areas open o.o.
jackerduud
My first Vanq was Plains of Jarin aswell. Guess where the f****ing SINGLE LAST ENEMY was...
In the middle of the sea, at the absolute upper edge of the map, as you can see.
In the middle of the sea, at the absolute upper edge of the map, as you can see.
Lycan Nibbler
If you hate it, don't do it. End of discussion 
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Age
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crazybanshee
Vanquishing is a bear but can give you a sense of accomplishment. That one area of the shiverpeaks that had sooooper fast mino patrols was a bear to do, because you couldn't catch the damn things. Although, imho the worst part of vanquishing (before the rampant consumables and gwen skills etc) was getting 99% of an area done then coming up on some impossible boss/huge group of enemies and getting booted for dp. ugh.
Thizzle
Then don't do it. There's no point in vanquishing at all.
Joe Fierce
So, talus chute is one of my last little vanquishes left for my ranger (i only have 7 left) and i was pretty proud of this considering that i've completed almost all the vanquishes h/h (no sab, no bear) and a few tyria and a few elonas are the only thing i have left. So i start a little tour to knock out 3 out of the last 4 zones i have left in tyria today by doing a run through frozen forest, icedome and ending in friggin talus chute, i had completed all of these in less than 45 mins, that is until talus chute, i went through the portal and proceeded to vanquish the entire zone in about 40mins, then find myself seeking a missing group. I thought to myself "ah good tyria, home of the big friggin patrol patterns and glitchy creatures that sometimes spawn in walls", and i proceed to put forth an effort of controlled seek and destroy, the only problem being that side from the occasional poor soul of a black bear I stumbled across in the epic two hours of searching i found absolutely nothing, so i begin to map the entire chute thinking that hey, maye i'll find em if i uncover everything (this is usually something i save for after the area is vanq'd) and proceed to map for about 40 mins and then think to myself, wtf, still no group?
So i do a little search on the webbie about talus chute and this is what the intarwebz tells me "there's a group of ice imps and golems on the eastern stretch of rivers that sometimes patrol up and exit via the icedome portal making you unable to vanq' the zone". I was instantly rather angry, it just blew my top, that i had wasted 4 some-odd hours. And before someone says it, yes i know, i could have prevented this had i done the research before hand and could have camped the portal till they came up or just went straight for all the golems and such first. I realize this as being fully preventable on my part, but at the same time i'm blatantly disgusted with such a simple program error wreaking so much havock on me day schedule =P.
I mean seriously, i would have been less offended if anet had picked up my nana from her house drove her over to mine and proceeded to -slap her in front of me. I am so offended that such a simple program error has gone unchecked.
and even so, at least my grandma would have deserved it, that dumb transient, but anet, baby, what did i ever do to you in this long lasting 3 year-ish marriage to you that made me deserve this?
So i do a little search on the webbie about talus chute and this is what the intarwebz tells me "there's a group of ice imps and golems on the eastern stretch of rivers that sometimes patrol up and exit via the icedome portal making you unable to vanq' the zone". I was instantly rather angry, it just blew my top, that i had wasted 4 some-odd hours. And before someone says it, yes i know, i could have prevented this had i done the research before hand and could have camped the portal till they came up or just went straight for all the golems and such first. I realize this as being fully preventable on my part, but at the same time i'm blatantly disgusted with such a simple program error wreaking so much havock on me day schedule =P.
I mean seriously, i would have been less offended if anet had picked up my nana from her house drove her over to mine and proceeded to -slap her in front of me. I am so offended that such a simple program error has gone unchecked.
and even so, at least my grandma would have deserved it, that dumb transient, but anet, baby, what did i ever do to you in this long lasting 3 year-ish marriage to you that made me deserve this?
The Red Messenger
wow that sucks. im glad i never ran into that problem when i was vanquishing
Solas
Somthing similair happened to be in Sulferous wastes, forgot about the enemies to the very north where you can only access them through jug smashing a pilliar, finally realised where they were only after i killed everything else on the map, and i couldn't reach them because adrenaline is needed to smash it and no enemies=no adreniline.
-3 hours><
wasnt offended jsut disgusted and a bit annoyed.
Mister_Smiley
There are few places in Proph that are glitchy, i didn't have the problem there, but i did have a problem in another place, 40mins to kill everything and then another 30 trying to find the last monster. I did finish it and the place was called Diessa Lowlands. I ended up beatting it when i went towards the portal and it gave it to me.
Ultima pyromancer
Wow that really sucks
i should really pretend that i vanquish.. but then again im too lazy to even do that
i should really pretend that i vanquish.. but then again im too lazy to even do that
Sarevok Thordin
I laughed at the second half of the post.
Gift3d
I lol'd. I've only vanquished a few areas, but whenever i decide to i always check up on wiki about it just to be aware of any anomalies beforehand. That sucks though, sorry to hear about that.
Joe Fierce
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Squishy ftw
Are you sure it was the glitch?
Because I know of 2 patrolling mobs that have a seriously big patrol area. It's very easy to miss these 2 patrols several times.
Because I know of 2 patrolling mobs that have a seriously big patrol area. It's very easy to miss these 2 patrols several times.
Joe Fierce
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Are you sure it was the glitch?
Because I know of 2 patrolling mobs that have a seriously big patrol area. It's very easy to miss these 2 patrols several times. |
Squishy ftw
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well m8 i thought this at first as well, and i circled every area of the zone both clockwise and counter clockwise, i don't know how i was able to miss them considering that, but hell, if you have any insight that you still may find beneficial for me (i.e. a u map with circles on where you think they are) that'd be great
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Something like that if I remember correctly.
Left patrol are giants, center one is an avicara mob(I vanqed this area 3 times, missed this mob 3 times aswel).
Joe Fierce
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Something like that if I remember correctly. |
makosi
I feel your pain. I'm so glad vanquishing is a thing of the past for me now, for the reasons you stated.
It's frustrating spending 45 mins on 98% of a vanquish and another 30 mins on the last 2% and learning that it's a game bug all along... or stuff that spawns behind a portal (Deldrimor Bowl).
Feels more like a chore than fun.
It's frustrating spending 45 mins on 98% of a vanquish and another 30 mins on the last 2% and learning that it's a game bug all along... or stuff that spawns behind a portal (Deldrimor Bowl).
Feels more like a chore than fun.
FengShuiDove
Mm. I hate Prophecies in general. My girlfriend and I are like 10 missions away from Leg Guardian and we've done all the RoF missions and Desert missions so now it's just getting the time and motivation really. Sad thing is, last two missions in a row have bugged out on us. We got one in the jungle where the gate wouldn't retract halfway through and one where you have to get to the Confessor or something and save him but ALL of the groups attacked without waiting for the first wave to be killed.
We're still like 10 missions short and we could easily be done by now. Don't you hate it when the wind gets knocked out of you?
We're still like 10 missions short and we could easily be done by now. Don't you hate it when the wind gets knocked out of you?
bel unbreakable
brings back a few bad memorys that one
blackknight1337
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Something like that if I remember correctly. Left patrol are giants, center one is an avicara mob(I vanqed this area 3 times, missed this mob 3 times aswel). |
The avicara are a pain to catch, since they have speed boost in nm and its twice as bad in hm.
When i did this we were literally on the verge of 60dp half the zone, back before powerstones. we tried waiting, wasn't working. so we finally split and went back around both ways, and the patrol was stuck on the south part of the loop against some trees.
The area is more of a pain than snake dance imo.
xPIMPx
Thanks for the heads up! ^.^
zelgadissan
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i would have been less offended if anet had picked up my nana from her house drove her over to mine and proceeded to -slap her in front of me.
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I personally haven't gotten around to vanquishing Talus Chute yet but I remember hearing stories of a similar tale. Eventually had to simply run in and out of Icedome while leaving a hero posted at the gate to know if they were escaping or not. Ridiculous. Why does enemy AI even allow for this to happen?
Kanyatta
Stuff like this is a big reason why I don't vanquish often. The biggest reason being the God-awful H/H AI, and the even worse "Average-PUG" intelligence.
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Ownt.
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If you hate it, don't do it. End of discussion
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Then we can get rid of loot scaling which everyone hates.
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Joe Fierce
well i went back in again from the dome as a startoff, started killing a mob and then saw them running up behind me ad aggro'd them, they continued through the portal, went back in icedome, restarted, and am now back in the vanquish again, but this time i let my pc camp there till hey decided to flee, hero body block flag formation ftw. So now my vanquishes are becoming more perfect as they get closer to the end, if only i would have found somone to tell me the plot synopsis of major movies as i did my work kinda like peter griffin does at his office on the previous vanquishes.