I hate vanquishing

Voltaic Annihilator

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

E/Me

For this reason:







I spent 50 minutes looking for that last guy, and didnt find him so i just quit.....As you can see ive been everywhere

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

That sucks. Must have been a patrol that you just kept missing.

sph0nz

sph0nz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

none.

W/

Yeah.. That's exactly why I hate vanquishing too. I don't do it often because of that.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

The vanquishing title means a lot.

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Yeah I've had this happen to me a couple of times
but i always find the guy takes about 30 mins though

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

I personally can see enough little spots where you weren't, where such a single creepy thign could have been hiding from you XD

And in this area are mostly absolutely no patrols. All monsters there don't move very far away from some spots. There is no monster there, that likes to marsh from 1 point to another. all creatures there have mostly fix areas, where they stand around.

Uhm, you know, that you can see Monsters and NPC's, when pressing alt+contrl? When not, use it ever, it will drastically reduce the chance, that you will oversee a creature next time and change in the options menu the setting so, that you wil see the names ever with full color, regardless how far they are away from you.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

lol, I see it.

Near the lower-left portal to the next city, you can see a small passage from the portal to the body of water directly above it. It looks like an "L".

Ctrl + Alt + good eyes help.

kev read

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Celestial Twilight [CT]

D/

^^ where he said

yea i almost missed that guy too...

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

N/

Thats why when I vanquish, I try to map the whole area, so I know I've seen everything.

Kyomi Tachibana

Kyomi Tachibana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oregon, USA

Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB]

P/W

Hehe yeah, I had to run around this map for an extra 15 minutes to find the last bugger. :x

For me it was a guy wandering around the upper left corner of the Sunspear Great Hall.

Ctrl+Alt <3<3

Siadena

Siadena

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Rome

Order Of The Immortal

W/

I wish vanquishing - and mapping for that matter - had a small %age or allowance of missed enemies/areas. Like 5-10 and 1% - give or take - would make those title tracks soooo less frustrating - and pointlessly so since again, you're missing like 3-4 enemies. Every other vanquish run I do I have to go on a 20-40 minute hunt for the last one or two, gets sooooo old.

Xirno

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Scottish Borders

Angel Sharks [DVDF]

Me/N

You haven't been everywhere.



I remember searching for my last enemy as well on that vanquish, with the Iboga being in the area you missed. Luckilly I found it after 5 minutes. Always hold CTRL when searching for that final enemy.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Siadena
I wish vanquishing - and mapping for that matter - had a small %age or allowance of missed enemies/areas. Like 5-10 and 1% - give or take - would make those title tracks soooo less frustrating - and pointlessly so since again, you're missing like 3-4 enemies. Every other vanquish run I do I have to go on a 20-40 minute hunt for the last one or two, gets sooooo old.
Bad because you can just skip the troublesome boss in the area, basically making vanquishing a matter of time. Take Shenzun Tunnels for example, the entire area is easy, except for when you find The Afflicted Kam (or whatever), who wipes you unless you have a BHA Ranger/Interrupt Mes, etc to deal with him. Now we can all skip him without problems.

A better idea is to have something like the quest marker thing that selects the closest enemy once you've killed 90% of the enemies. Make it orange or something.

ivan.alicard

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Electric warfair

E/Me

wtb monster tracker!

yeah those last few monster always annoy me when vanguishing too >.<

cokecan77

cokecan77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Ice

W/P

i love vanquishing because of this exact thing, you scream and shout, sometimes spit, but never quit, leave the comp on over night with it minimized , when you find that ba**ard, wooooo

Celllllllabration time.....come on! Lets celebrate, ........wooooo hooooo!

Leonhart

Leonhart

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ascalon City

W/

It's times like these that you wish Zho's personal skills actually came useful...Zho the great tracker, I sense a disturbence in the soil...to EAST!

Angelus...

Angelus...

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Webel Wising [wawr]

Don't forget the Mandragors, I see a little spot where you could have missed some.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Happened me few times. but i never quit. once one area in tyria took 5 and half hours because didnt faind last enemies

Voltaic Annihilator

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

E/Me

I went to the spot you showed me, during the that vanquish, i already took out that patrol...you dont need to go all the way in to get to them

psycore

psycore

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

worse when GW bugs out and you fail a vanq cause of an anet coding error.

RedStar

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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[Bomb]

E/

Funny thing is that this was the zone that I first vanquished, and I had the same problem : it took me a lot of time to find that one little monster, but after searching every little places, I found him.
Also another zone on this island made me go trough the same thing...

After that I decided to stop vanquishing. But one day my friend forced me to vanquish Tyria with her, and I discovered something : Elona is the most annoying place in all of Tyria (the same applies for skill hunter/mission/cartography) xD.

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

I don't like vanquishing either, not that it's too hard but just because it's so annoying when you miss a group somewhere.

Not to mention the gold reward sux big time.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStar
Elona is the most annoying place in all of Tyria (the same applies for skill hunter/mission/cartography) xD.
No way, not for either missions or skill hunter. Elona's skill caps are cake compared to tromping through huge (and sometimes multiple) explorable areas to get to a boss who you then have to find between 3-4 different spawn locations. Missions in Elona are at least short, VERY short in comparison to Tyria. I went through both after my Assassin was COMPLETE and decked out with good hero builds and Tyria still took longer, even the nub areas, just because mission objectives.

Anyway, on topic:

Vanquishing does suck at first, but you'll develop a technique that you can stick to once you kind of figure out what you're looking for and what kind of gaps you need to revisit and if you see moving groups to get them while you see them. I suggest doing cartography along with vanquishing. It's longer but in my experience more efficient to go around the outside of the area scraping and killing every group you see then make "pinch" points where you can segment off the area into what you've seen and what you haven't.

Sorry about your first experience being a crap one though.

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

Vanquishing should be about killing enemies, not finding them.

Maybe when there's only 5% left they should show up on the map or something like that.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

I've never missed a few monsters after searching the whole area.

As others have said, you've missed quite alot of spots. I can see 3 parts you've missed. Learn to cover the whole area before you come moaning on here.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStar
Funny thing is that this was the zone that I first vanquished, and I had the same problem : it took me a lot of time to find that one little monster, but after searching every little places, I found him.
Also another zone on this island made me go trough the same thing...

After that I decided to stop vanquishing. But one day my friend forced me to vanquish Tyria with her, and I discovered something : Elona is the most annoying place in all of Tyria (the same applies for skill hunter/mission/cartography) xD.
What do you mean Elona is the most annoying playce in tyria?

just trying to see waht you are saying, because in my game elona is: voice that sould like james earl jones: land of the rising sun.

and tyria is well across ocean over ----------> there...


pointer for vanquishing map: wall hugs then criss cross.

before i forget, i like to vanquish mwahahahaha its fun, you try a couple of times can't do it, change build, try again, repeat, and then one day you find, OMG I AM VERY GOOD AT THIS , and you've become a bulldozer, crushing everything in your path.

tmakinen

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

E/

Well, there could be a similar kind of pointing system as with quests (only red arrow and star) that would always indicate the location of the closest (unlurked) enemy on the map while vanquishing. Would be quite helpful without spoiling the challenge.

When I started VQing I encountered the problem quite often but towards the end I learned to sweep diligently enough to get everything on the first go.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

That's why I'm not vanquishing anything. If I had to run ~30 minutes and search for one red dot my heart would pop.
Though ironically out of boredom I've vanquished this area in Elona ~~

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

ctrl key ftw
really easy to find enemies that way

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Patrols are the worst part of vanquishing

wraithe

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
What do you mean Elona is the most annoying playce in tyria?

just trying to see waht you are saying, because in my game elona is: voice that sould like james earl jones: land of the rising sun.

and tyria is well across ocean over ----------> there...
Tyria is Continent and the world...for more info link below..

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tyria

and btw...its frustrating but never quit...take a break then come back.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltaic Annihilator
I spent 50 minutes looking for that last guy, and didnt find him so i just quit.....As you can see ive been everywhere
Never happened to me, including that map.

The only problem I remember when vanquishing, is cleaning everything and not being able to kill the last few monsters because death penalty or because my build is not right for that last monsters.

BTW, I see you aren't a noob, because you use 3 necros, GG!

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

oooooo, nice, i've never picture it like that before. should have guess since we can arrive in ports on shops ey! thanks wraithe

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I had a similar problem with Iron Horse Mines. One stupid patrol that took forever to find. I thought I'd just wait for them to come along on their patrol route. Then I thought I wasn't on their patrol route, so I went searching. I wasn't wrong about their route, they were hung up on the scenery.

P.S. Finding those "lost" groups goes a lot faster with guildies/friends.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

why does everyone complain about this? o.O
It's LOGIC where the last patroll/guy is >_> Come on...
Just look at the map, think logically and go to where he is.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

finding the missing guy/patrol taking as much time as VQ the rest of the map is pretty commonplace

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Patrols are the worst part of vanquishing
But your a god now, nothing can harm you anymore^^

And yeah it sucks when you miss one last bugger in a vanquish but i am usually pretty good and walk along the walls and fight my way in cirlces slowly closing in towards the centre, works nearly every time.

deya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Lamers ultimate Majority

Mo/

Simple answer:

Stop vanquishing.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

yeah that sucks but i was there plenty of times

Tarkin

Tarkin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Patrols are the worst part of vanquishing
True, focus in tyria, some patrols walk all area around... in desert i waste 40 min to clear one area and more 40 min to find the walking patrol...

Tips

Ctrl key ftw

Be metodic... i walk and made all borders first, and for the last walk in the center, dont go for any team try to be systemic, but kill any "walking team" of foes, some patrols walk all area...

Kown the area this make things go faster... the OP, say i go to eveyplace, but its untrue, first time i see the map i see the part he forget...

This tips dont be areas easyer, its just to avoid the lost patrols or foes...