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Inger

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25 May 2008 at 21:48 - 81

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Uhm, actually, if something was sold in better amount, it is better. Same as why someone smart will get higher grades than a stupid person and same why person with high IQ is more intelligent than person with lower IQ at almost same age.

How is WoW is better than GW not an opinion based statement?... I personally like GW more than WoW that is MY OPINION... obviously many ppl have a different a opinion.

If everything that sold more was better than heck that must mean the ford focus is a way better car than a Ferrari, they're both cars and one has clearly outsold the other...

back on topic!... no GW isn't the king... its probably the best online f2p game out there but in the giant scheme of rpgs there is definately some better ones.

kade

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25 May 2008 at 23:24 - 82

wow has a subscription and i won't play it because it does, does thatmean it can't compare to GW? no, they are two different games and you can't compare them...why people still are after 3 years is beyond me...

Skyy High

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26 May 2008 at 00:06 - 83

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Uhm, actually, if something was sold in better amount, it is better. Same as why someone smart will get higher grades than a stupid person and same why person with high IQ is more intelligent than person with lower IQ at almost same age.

Not even touching how flawed the IQ comparison is, but I'll say this: WoW came into the MMO market with a HUGE following, of a largely-untapped population of gamers. How many Warcraft gamers bought WoW just because it was a Warcraft game, and then got hooked? How many of them would have bought a different MMO, any MMO, had WoW not been made? How many MMOs have been developed for as long, by as big a company, with as big a budget, and as big a reputation as Blizzard?

Had WoW not turned out to be the highest selling MMO ever, it would have been a catastrophe as big as LotRO's failure (how they managed to make a MMORPG based on the Tolkien universe not be an instant best-seller, I have no idea). ANet came out of literally nowhere to make one of the most successful online RPGs, f2p; you can scoff at 5 million units sold all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that that's a huge milestone for any game, especially one from a relatively small company, with no previous player base to depend upon.

Lastly, popularity with the masses has very little correlation to how good something really is. You want proof? Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Backstreet Boys, and all those other amazingly sh***y pop groups that were/are so damn popular. Are you really going to say that they're the greatest artists ever?

Red Sonya

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26 May 2008 at 01:00 - 84

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Originally Posted by Spike

If GW was a paid for game and wow was free I would still play GW. In fact I would still play GW even if wow paid you to play. Thats how bad wow is. Oh and wow does NOT have 10 million paid for accounts.

Oh excuse me I was over by a mere 1 million...here's the link igmo

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135017/article.html

Over 9 MILLION SUBSCIBERS and that was last July so with the numbers still climbing and WOW still in the top 10 of the sales chart I'm pretty sure they are closing in on 10 MILLION.

This doesn't even count the 26 million sales in CHINA, but, I guess you never read or lookup things to know stuff like that.

arcanemacabre

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26 May 2008 at 01:49 - 85

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Is someone who loads powerfull skills and uses powerfull build hypocrite too?
Some of few builds that do not suck completelly?
Maybe someone who uses PvX ones?
Maybe everyone who is not spamming power attacks, orsions and flares?

Context - It is hypocritical when someone claims innocence of overpowered 'features' such as Ursan and consummables, yet completely overlooks the ridiculously overpowered PvE-skills they are using.

Nevin

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26 May 2008 at 02:26 - 86

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

You mean she doesn't?

Red Sand

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26 May 2008 at 02:29 - 87

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Originally Posted by S0larius

Just a quick post to say that after a short break, where I tried out WoW and Age of Conan (still playing AoC for a while), I always miss GW. Why? It's just the best mix out there IMHO. The interface is the very best I've seen - just the right mix of depth while avoiding all the tedious aspects of other MMOs. Good community to boot.

Plus...no subscription fee. I've yet to see a game that has given me a reason to switch to a paid subscription.

Curious if others have had this same experience. I am hopeful that GW2 will retain everything that made the first great, and not introduce the same pitfalls other games like AoC have.

Anyway - carry on.

I'm a reformed Evercrack user. Checked out WoW (too cartoony for me) tried LoTRO for a while (hard to solo). Bought GW and I'm hooked. It's not as complex as EQ, WoW, or LoTRO, not a lot of STUFF, you know... unique equipment, weapons, skills, crafting etc. But the interface is pretty easy to learn and THE BUILD makes it more complex. Don't have to spend hours making baskets or arrowheads to get ahead in the game. Don't have to camp a mob for that critical piece of loot. Don't have to gather a force of 30 to get a chance at getting decent equipment. Don't have to worry about getting your kills stolen by a group more powerful than your own.

Great looking game. My only complaint, PvE is like most games, you still have to kill a mob for xp and loot. Ah well, can't have everything, and GW does PvE best in my opinion. No solo pulling one mob from the group and killing them off one at a time. The AI is smart enough to know to bring friends when somone is shooting at you.

And I love GW PvP. PvP without worrying about getting ganked on the way from city to town? PvP on my terms, when I want it. I'll take it.

Best Game Ever.

Darkobra

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26 May 2008 at 02:51 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

qft. If there was a monthly in GW, nobody would play.

Exactly. I'd sure as hell not pay to play for Guild Wars. The only reason it's even a slight competition to others is because of the lack of monthly fee.

That and the community in GW is laughable compared to other games, too.

HawkofStorms

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26 May 2008 at 03:05 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

But really - the main point ANYONE plays GW is because it's f2p after buying it once. If it was $12-$15, people would play so many other games... Lineage 2, WoW, RO, DR, AoC...

If GW was $12-15 a month, I wouldn't play it. But I wouldn't play any of those other games either.
I'd stick to my Xbox and play Mass Effect, Morrowind, and GTAIV, coming on to the computer to play StarCraft and SC2. The thing is, a lot of people don't like ANY pay to play games just on principle. No matter what game it was, even if it was some theoretical super game that was the best game ever made, I wouldn't play it if it was P2P.
People often assume that if GW had a monthly fee, people would suddenly move to other games with a monthly fee. The truth is, most people would move to other games WITHOUT a monthly fee. If I were to play a game with a monthly fee, it would be GW, with its beautiful graphics and relatively glitch free system.

Red Sonya

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26 May 2008 at 03:06 - 90

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Exactly. I'd sure as hell not pay to play for Guild Wars. The only reason it's even a slight competition to others is because of the lack of monthly fee.

That and the community in GW is laughable compared to other games, too.

Exactly GW is the mmo/mmorpg for the majority of "poor" players (kids 8 years old and upwards to 17 and of course the family guy who has 3 kids and a wife and couldn't come close to affording the others at $15 a month). It's not to say a "handful" of players with money don't play GW, but, just looking at the SUBSCRIBERS of WOW it just goes to show that the MAJORITY WITH the MONEY do play Pay to Play ones and most play WOW. If GW was $15 a month to play they would hardly have ever reached 5 or 6 million in sales. I know I'm one who bought it specifically because it had no monthly fee, I certainly didn't buy it because it was advertised as skill>time because well I already knew better than that, there's just no such thing as it always takes time to gain skill(s) no matter what you play.

Aera Lure

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26 May 2008 at 03:32 - 91

I have the money to pay for a monthly subscription to a game. I'll just never do so as a rule.

samifly

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26 May 2008 at 03:39 - 92

I bought GW because it had no fee, but now I would rather it have a fee than to see it dying like it is now.

Lady Lozza

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26 May 2008 at 03:40 - 93

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

... popularity with the masses has very little correlation to how good something really is. You want proof? Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Backstreet Boys, and all those other amazingly sh***y pop groups that were/are so damn popular. Are you really going to say that they're the greatest artists ever?

QFT. I do keep coming back to GW. Even though I do play other things at times. TF2, Sam & Max, and a couple of other online rpgs.

I've said in a previous topic that some people are simply capable of enjoying games long after the "new shine" has worn off. A lot of people aren't. Just like some people LIKE grind, and some people don't.

Is GW still the "king" (of online games) for me, yes. Is it problem free? No. But compared to other (online) games I play and have played GW is the (only) one I am still enjoying after 3 years of play. Though oddly enough I've had L2 cravings lately...

Darkobra

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26 May 2008 at 03:40 - 94

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

I have the money to pay for a monthly subscription to a game. I'll just never do so as a rule.

And I honestly don't blame you. I have the mindset that once you paid to get the game, why would you pay monthly just to get access to the content?

That's not to say that the pay to play games themselves are bad. It's just a very annoying way to do things.

Uber Mass

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26 May 2008 at 09:03 - 95

tho im playing wow right now gw will always have a special place in my heart.... and when gw2 comes out i will play it defo

Abedeus

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26 May 2008 at 10:27 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inger

How is WoW is better than GW not an opinion based statement?... I personally like GW more than WoW that is MY OPINION... obviously many ppl have a different a opinion.

If everything that sold more was better than heck that must mean the ford focus is a way better car than a Ferrari, they're both cars and one has clearly outsold the other...

It's 10 millions vs, hell, even 1 million, although I honestly don't believe so many people exist. Still, if something has sold 10 times more than the other company, it DOES mean something is better. If it was 10 millions vs 5-7 millions, I would agree it doesn't mean something is better. If 10 millions vs 10 millions, then they are even.

Or maybe you say that Stephen Hawking is as smart as Paris Hilton, because their IQ doesn't matter? You are either insulting Hawking or praising Hilton ;d

Quote:

And if you want Anet to realize their mistakes it would be far more efficient to compile a list of complaints and form some sort of petition.

Go to any ursan-rant thread and you'll see lists.

Rexion

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26 May 2008 at 12:31 - 97

I'm exact opposite.
I love WoW and every time I talk to my old guildies from WoW, I want WoW back. GW has just become a grind fest/title farm.
Atleast WoW had a fun community (depending on server+side >.>) aswell as really cool endgame.

WARPATh

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26 May 2008 at 14:23 - 98

GW is still de king.

You got like 98560958650968 things to do.

The only things that are dead and you cannot do without guildies is

Sorrow's Furnace
Deep
Urgoz
Jade Quarry
Fort aspenwood

those places are empty

Mr. G

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26 May 2008 at 14:37 - 99

all game die, i mean look at CoH - the gameplay is still pretty dam good...but wheres the community? the place is a ghost-town

on the birghtside GW2 will give us more GW fun when its out, it might not be THE GW but it'll be the familiar thing

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Originally Posted by WARPATh

The only things that are dead and you cannot do without guildies is

Sorrow's Furnace
Deep
Urgoz
Jade Quarry
Fort aspenwood

I think you need a better guild tbh, you make it sound like working with guildies is grind - all games are pretty boring after a while its the people who make it fun

ogre_jd

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26 May 2008 at 14:44 - 100

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

It's 10 millions vs, hell, even 1 million, although I honestly don't believe so many people exist. Still, if something has sold 10 times more than the other company, it DOES mean something is better.

...even if it's only the advertising. World of Warcraft has massive television advertising campaigns. It helps a lot. Guild Wars, on the other hand, has had next to no advertising. Maybe in game magazines, maybe some banner ads here and there, plus word of mouth. If there were TV ads, they were certainly very few (especially here in Canada) and unmemorable. Frankly, it's rather amazing that Guild Wars has shifted as many copies as it has - and probably most of those sales to first-time players have been solely because of the box art and blurbs on the back.

Abedeus

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26 May 2008 at 14:46 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by WARPATh

GW is still de king.

You got like 98560958650968 things to do.

The only things that are dead and you cannot do without guildies is

Sorrow's Furnace
Deep
Urgoz
Jade Quarry
Fort aspenwood

those places are empty

And except for grinding titles/gold, there is how much after main plot? Oh, right, grinding in elite areas that are no longer elite.

Red Sand

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26 May 2008 at 15:13 - 102

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Exactly. I'd sure as hell not pay to play for Guild Wars. The only reason it's even a slight competition to others is because of the lack of monthly fee.

That and the community in GW is laughable compared to other games, too.

When your "competitor" has 10 million subscribers compared to your 4 million copies sold, it's not really competition. WoW doesn't have real competition. My friends who switched to WoW after EverQuest, most don't like GW. I think it's because GW is a different kind of game from EQ and WoW. WoW is an easy form of EQ in my opinion.

The folks that play GW that don't want to pay a subscription, I can understand where they are coming from. Before I quit, I had two accounts in EQ, maxed chars on both, and paid 30 bucks a month. Sometimes I played in windowed mode so I could have two toons online at once, because not all classes can solo in EQ. I paid 50 cents a day just to have a cleric (healer) available to buff me before I went out to fight, and give me a free rez when I died. Dying sucked in EQ. A fast/free rez was worth real money to me.

The community in GW and other games is the same as here, good and bad. You have serious players who help people, and you have serious players who flame people, you have not so serious players doing both. There might be more young people playing GW cause it's F2P, but mommy and daddy pay for junior to play AoC and WoW too, can't get away from them there. And you don't have to be young to want F2P.

I invested hundreds of dollars into Everquest and what do I have to show for it now? Absolutely nothing. You can't put your epic weapon up on the wall in your house. You can't put your 15k armor on a rack in your den. At least F2P players aren't throwing money down the drain; they're just wasting time, not money.

The WoW/LoTRO/EQ/AoC/CoH message boards are full of idiots thinking that they know everything about the game, and only their opinion matters. They can be found on all the boards, or spamming the various channels on their respective games.

Just like here.

So it's pretty simple: you get what you want from what you play.

I like GW. It's just what I need. A place to kill time and have a little fun doing it.

Avarre

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26 May 2008 at 15:16 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

It's 10 millions vs, hell, even 1 million, although I honestly don't believe so many people exist. Still, if something has sold 10 times more than the other company, it DOES mean something is better. If it was 10 millions vs 5-7 millions, I would agree it doesn't mean something is better. If 10 millions vs 10 millions, then they are even.

Quality and appeal are two very different things.

Darkobra

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26 May 2008 at 15:25 - 104

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Originally Posted by Red Sand

The WoW/LoTRO/EQ/AoC/CoH message boards are full of idiots thinking that they know everything about the game, and only their opinion matters. They can be found on all the boards, or spamming the various channels on their respective games..

That one is definitely true. I was exploring a mage forum for WoW. I'm an excellent PvE mage so far and I can win in duels easily. But duels are hardly organised battlegrounds, so I wanted to know if my fire is passable or if ice is expected.

Well, I went on the first thread I saw and saw this elitist who said "Everything is overpowered! They can heal all my damage in one spell and kill me in one hit!" So when given advice on how to better himself, he laughed at their arena ratings for being lower than theirs. Even if they played better than he did. (Hell, I've never set foot in the arena and even I play better than he does.)

However, as for the in game community on Guild Wars, it's been quite rare for me to see anything short of spammers. With Guild Wars being purely instances and able to be soloed for the most part, the helpful, friendly players are normally out doing their own thing. They're rarely seen in outposts and are usually drowned out by the mass idiots.

In a persistant world, you'll still get the same idiots, but you'll also see the helpful ones in the mix as the chat has a wider range and it's easier to come across people. It's the persistant world that I'll be looking forward to in Guild Wars 2 for that reason. That, and I like to explore vast worlds rather than small segments of one.

DreamRunner

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26 May 2008 at 15:28 - 105

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Originally Posted by Antheus

Gears of War is an FPS. Point-and-shoot. There's tactical and strategic elements, and each level has some form of a quest/mission/story structure.

Gears of War is third person shooter. It has a third person perspective, not a first person perspective. Have you played it?

Sora267

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26 May 2008 at 15:43 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Gears of War is third person shooter. It has a third person perspective, not a first person perspective. Have you played it?

^Ownage. 12 characters.

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26 May 2008 at 15:58 - 107

I've liked Guild wars for two years now well little less because i quit like a year ago and qwent to battlefield 2. Gw Rocks the Socks off WoW but im gonna get into some more battlefield 2 since gw isnt entertaining as it used to be.

Yoom Omer

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26 May 2008 at 16:16 - 108

You can't compare GW to WoW. GW = CMORPG and WoW is a MMORPG.

Some ppl like to grind. they'll find more stuff to grind for in WoW.
Some ppl like a game which is more skill-based. That's GW.

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26 May 2008 at 16:51 - 109

RuneScape was my very first online rpg. after wasteing around 1 year and half on RS a friend got me into guild wars. never looked back

i tried WOW had a 14 day trial key thing? but thats just not for me. monthly fees are pretty lame especially when it look like your playing a badly drawn cartoon. =D

Skyy High

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26 May 2008 at 17:24 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

It's 10 millions vs, hell, even 1 million, although I honestly don't believe so many people exist. Still, if something has sold 10 times more than the other company, it DOES mean something is better. If it was 10 millions vs 5-7 millions, I would agree it doesn't mean something is better. If 10 millions vs 10 millions, then they are even.

Or maybe you say that Stephen Hawking is as smart as Paris Hilton, because their IQ doesn't matter? You are either insulting Hawking or praising Hilton ;d

And you're unduly praising teenie-bopper pop "artists." The numbers we're talking about are number of units sold, not comparisons of the IQs of different people. The only reason you keep going to the (completely unrelated) subject of IQ is because it's self-evident from just looking at what music, movies, and literature are popular today that you are flat out WRONG to assume that popularity = quality.

Or do you think Clancy and King are greater writers than Chekov, Tolstoy, Poe, Twain, Hemingway, Conrad, etc? The first two have sold far more than any of the others.

Longasc

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26 May 2008 at 19:11 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

Or do you think Clancy and King are greater writers than Chekov, Tolstoy, Poe, Twain, Hemingway, Conrad, etc? The first two have sold far more than any of the others.

Interesting and very cool comparison.

I think WoW is probably the most well done of all EverQuest-derivates... but it is not for me. I already got bored of EQ, and my personal favorite MMORPG, Ultima Online, is still waiting for a worthy successor.

I see the great danger that GW2 will become some sort of WoW for people who do not like paying fees, abandoning many ideas that made GW ideal for players that do not want to grind that much or invest too much time into a game just to stay "competitive". This is/was at least true for the PvE part, do not think it really works out in higher level PvP.

A word of warning to all of you: Do not go to the cinema or a bar 1-2 hours after your three WoW-playing friends had a major raid, e.g. Black Temple/Illidan... you will regret it!

Spike

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26 May 2008 at 19:53 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Oh excuse me I was over by a mere 1 million...here's the link igmo

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135017/article.html

Over 9 MILLION SUBSCIBERS and that was last July so with the numbers still climbing and WOW still in the top 10 of the sales chart I'm pretty sure they are closing in on 10 MILLION.

This doesn't even count the 26 million sales in CHINA, but, I guess you never read or lookup things to know stuff like that.

If you belive blizzard press releases then I have some nice land and a bridge to sell you. I have posted proof on here before that shows wow has about half the claimed paid for accounts at the VERY most. I guess you have never looked at thier yearly accounts and can't to simple maths either.

Wow is one of the worst games I've ever EVER played and I've played 000's of them.

RedNova88

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26 May 2008 at 20:12 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

If you belive blizzard press releases then I have some nice land and a bridge to sell you. I have posted proof on here before that shows wow has about half the claimed paid for accounts at the VERY most. I guess you have never looked at thier yearly accounts and can't to simple maths either.

Wow is one of the worst games I've ever EVER played and I've played 000's of them.

And of course it doesn't help that a lot of those accounts are probably gold farmers. Of course this is no big surprise since a portion of every MMOs accounts belong to money farmers/sellers.

And seriously, I cannot for the life of me understand why this thread is still going. So what if WoW had all those accounts, anyone can tell you popularity=/=quality of the game. The game is simple to play, and it had a huge following from the already popular Warcraft. Better=opinion, and anyone that claims it as a fact is as stupid as they come. Keep in mind I'm just talking about video games, not EVERYTHING.

Anet is still forging itself. For example look at the Halo series, I love all 3 of them. But just imagine if Halo 3 had been released on it's own, without having the two before it, it would NOT have sold as many copies due to lack of popularity, and the lack of people knowing Bungie's name. See my point? If the name is already popular than people will flock to it just because it says Blizzard on the box.

kagenuma

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28 May 2008 at 14:47 - 114

Im a newbie in mmo so from boredom i tried other "no monthly fee" games like Shaiya,Cabal n Requiem(im a student refuse to pay money for game every month) but also Lineage,wow n coming on conan.

Gameplay: All of em r about leveling,not much thinking about skills -quests goes like kill 5 of these 10 of those n bring this to merchant he will tell u what else to kill - if u wont find a party(which wont PK u with smile) its kinda hard to play alone unless u level level level all the time which is the point of game so u enjoy playing from lv30+. Ill say GW with its story is far more enjoyable n quests goes more original.Take hench n try mission yourself or try with ppl. your free choice, not pushed to do either way. The prob of GW is that after some time there is not much to do BUT leaves the nice memories of good play which is better for me then playing twice longer but so pissed from all the leveling which takes 80% of game play. Yes u dont need to play months to be high level n enjoy game which is the best n worse part in same time (ppl say its too easy game then but hey we still had fun)

Graphic:
even when i take MONTHLY PAIED games like new super Age of conan,Lineage or Wow.......the graphic is a joke n so undone like the game is only few weeks out. GW is smooth n u must admit really well done.

Controls:
i..just...cant...play..LINEAGE with its stupid character movement or actualy most of other online games i tried. GW is just about walking, no jumping ect so seems kinda poor n boring but in other hand if i want some moves ill go play tekken.AT LEAST i can walk clearly in guild wars.

So even when i dont have much to do in GW anymore, im so looking forward on GW2. To talk with a friends,kill something when bored i wont pay monthly.Ill go to old good GW which is about fun n used to be about skills n tactic. keep up anet

ps n if ill need to pay for GW2 monthly? I wont wait even a sec n do so!

pfaile

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28 May 2008 at 15:32 - 115

Personnaly, I am taking a break and trying out WoW now. I found myself doing the same things over and over. With only 4 destroyer weapons and 7 titles left to fill up my HoM, I was getting really bored. I will be back, looking forward to GW2 very much, just wish they would share ANYTHING with us.

Bryant Again

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28 May 2008 at 15:34 - 116

It's hard to compare Guild Wars to other games. The only games I've been able to compare it to in terms of gameplay have been Diablo and Baldur's Gate.

It is indeed a very unique and fun game, despite it going down roads many here wouldn't agree with.

Edit: Oh wow, I didn't see the semantics war going on here. I may get in on this action : P

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Exactly my point. What do you suppose towns/outposts are? They are glorified chat rooms with animated avatars. Once you're actually playing GW, you're not going to see more than 7 others (aside from PvP and of course Urgoz/Deep where you can party with a whole 4 more people!). Thanks for clarifying that. - It isn't massive -

Holy shit GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!

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Originally Posted by Spike

If you belive blizzard press releases then I have some nice land and a bridge to sell you. I have posted proof on here before that shows wow has about half the claimed paid for accounts at the VERY most. I guess you have never looked at thier yearly accounts and can't to simple maths either.

I actually asked for that proof several times. I've yet to receive any.

@Abdeus: NWN1 single-player campaign is hack-and-slash??? What?

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

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28 May 2008 at 16:09 - 117

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

@Abdeus: NWN1 single-player campaign is hack-and-slash??? What?

Oh please. Did you remember Undeads from Act 1? A bunch of WTFINYOURFACE undeads that are impossible to kill without AoE. Or that every game ends with a fight with stupid overpowered boss. Only in Hordes of the Underworld you can force the boss to kill himself, but if you want to fight him...

And a Rogue fails in every of these games. Because, like you have to knockdown a foe (a lot of them immune) to deal sneak attacks.

Oh, and every quasi-mission (collecting items, all of the Hordes) is killing hundreds of enemies.

Btw, I've finally found a good replacement for (a bit old, but..) Diablo 2. Hellgate: London. Except for FPS drops when 20-30 monsters are attacking you in first person, everything is great - fun to kill monsters, balanced classes and loot to collect. Actually, it COULD be called Diablo 2: The Future, or just Diablo 3(D). Too bad in my country official distributor wants over $55 for it -.- Thanks god unofficial ones are normal.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

28 May 2008 at 16:17 - 118

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Oh please. Did you remember Undeads from Act 1? A bunch of WTFINYOURFACE undeads that are impossible to kill without AoE. Or that every game ends with a fight with stupid overpowered boss. Only in Hordes of the Underworld you can force the boss to kill himself, but if you want to fight him...

Undeads were impossible to kill without AoE? I just went in as a Fighter with the bard/fighter lady on my first play through on the "Hardcore rules" setting, didn't have much of a problem. But that's besides the point. The story was the main meat of NWN1, as is every DnD game. In that area, Neverwinter Nights does damn good.

[QUOTE=Abedeus]And a Rogue fails in every of these games. Because, like you have to knockdown a foe (a lot of them immune) to deal sneak attacks.

I was able to play just fine as a Rogue/Assassin on a 2nd playthrough...It was a hard transition, sure, but that's because I was used to the baddies focusing on me.

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Oh, and every quasi-mission (collecting items, all of the Hordes) is killing hundreds of enemies.

It depends on how it's implemented. In NWN1, everything is written wonderfully. Characters are cool, environments are interesting, and the story is decently engaging. If you don't get involved into the story and characters, then yes I can understand it feeling a bit boring, save for the "hitting things" part. While I do consider the storyline itself a bit weak compared to the expansions and other releases, I still found it enjoyable.

Side note: Did you know that in Oblivion nearly all quests are "go here, kill X" or "go here, talk to Y" quests, yet no one complains about them?

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

28 May 2008 at 16:37 - 119

I have an open mind, I've played alot of MMO's.

I played the GW Beta in early 2005, I couldn't wait for the release.

I played the WoW trial about 3 months ago, I couldnt bare anymore after 15 minutes.

I didn't find WoW to be newbie friendly, one of the worst interfaces I've seen in a MMO. The game looks like ass too.

If GW or GW2 had a monthly fee, i'd still play the game.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

28 May 2008 at 16:43 - 120

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Originally Posted by Yoom Omer

You can't compare GW to WoW. GW = CMORPG and WoW is a MMORPG.

Some ppl like to grind. they'll find stuff to grind for in WoW.
Some ppl like to grind. they'll find stuff to grind for in GW too.

Fixed. Also, "ppl" is not a word except to the mentally challenged.