Solo Shadowform Sin - Chaos Plains NM Farm

Sprites

Sprites

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

royaume de la lumi??re :D

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can kill those too (but they scatter a lot )

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprites
can kill those too (but they scatter a lot ) Have you tried keeping health below 100? (It hasn't been stated like 100 times on these forums you know :P )

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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The Superior Shadow Arts rune HAS NOT been removed from the game.

There are so many Assassins buying them from the Trader that they sold out. Completely. Sometimes one pops up there, but people usually grab it pretty fast.

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Best bet is to buy them from players. Worth 15-25k on the market last I checked.

It's worth the investment.

Azora

Azora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Portugal =P

We Need Fame [sOz]

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It was not removed or u could already see like 100 therads about it in cryme a riverside and 100 therads in highend selling them for 1 panda ea....

its like rune trader only got stuff people sell to him.. if many pople buy and noone sells we wont get runes.. therefore no runes

eeks

eeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, Australia

Lubricated Volcano Love [Club]

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
He meant initials (VD).
*She, and d'oh, I did indeed mean that - I knew I was using the wrong word. My bad.

That's what I get for burning my eyes (and brain) out through farming too much.

I'm so glad I bought the rune for another build about five months ago, getting my friends major runes has been irritating.

As Nightow suggests, buy the rune off other players as the result is indeed profitable.

Anyone else constantly rubberbanding? It's pretty amusing standing about five in-game metres away from a mob, casting lava font and watching it take effect away from you. The /stuck command doesn't like working for me, so if anyone else has that problem, make sure you maintain SF even if it appears you're running off, despite enemies fixed in the same position.

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

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lol, no, it's just very hard to find at traders

Danax

Danax

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ontario

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Question, Does MOR and lava Font cause scatter When lava font is cast on Recharge? I REALLY hate when riders scatter, So I usually do MOR and Inferno so that they wont scatter.
Luckily for me, I bought my sup shadow arts 2 days into the new update, so it was like 500g for me =p

Nodakim

Nodakim

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Hrvatska

N/Me

well...i am atm playing gw and i left my assa waiting before the behemoth....killed the aaxte bitches(all except 4,but i didnt want to spend 15 minutes just to kill 4 of them) and now i am figuring out what to do next...a
any tips?

Sprites

Sprites

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Join Date: Jun 2005

royaume de la lumi??re :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Have you tried keeping health below 100? (It hasn't been stated like 100 times on these forums you know :P ) it works , but they sometimes manage to hit me with [Feast of Corruption] so i'll not try this with the necros

for a rune just sit next to trader and refresh ^^

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danax
Question, Does MOR and lava Font cause scatter When lava font is cast on Recharge? I REALLY hate when riders scatter, So I usually do MOR and Inferno so that they wont scatter.
Luckily for me, I bought my sup shadow arts 2 days into the new update, so it was like 500g for me =p
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightow
Have you tried keeping health below 100? (It hasn't been stated like 100 times on these forums you know :P ) Health<100 = NO SCATTER!

Golgotha

Golgotha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danax
Question, Does MOR and lava Font cause scatter When lava font is cast on Recharge? I REALLY hate when riders scatter, So I usually do MOR and Inferno so that they wont scatter.
Luckily for me, I bought my sup shadow arts 2 days into the new update, so it was like 500g for me =p If you have high health, yes. As stated earlier, allow SF to run out in a safe area causing your health to be well under 100, and maintain that low amount with by switching to a vampiric weapon when regen starts. They'll never scatter and speeds up runs quite a bit.

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Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Order Of The Ghost Dragons [mist]

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nice guide, 8 ecto on first run... getting 6 average

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Health<100 = NO SCATTER!
It's more a percentage than it is a fixed number. Probably 25% of full health. I actually runed down to 85 max health and tried it, and still got scatter. I typically have 371 max health, so if I degen down below 90 (approximately), I'm good to go. I have gotten scatter with somewhere between 90-100 health (out of 371), which lends to my 25% theory.

Quote: Originally Posted by eeks *She, and d'oh, I did indeed mean that - I knew I was using the wrong word. My bad. Ooops, sorry! Corrected.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprites
can kill those too (but they scatter a lot ) Yow, what's with the red hue?? I hope your screen doesn't always look like that!

Back on topic, if you go after the necros, you have to make it a point to kill any minions first. If you kill a collector and leave its minions alive, then you will take collateral damage when the other necros attack the masterless minion. Once minions are dead, then kill collectors, then threshers. It's typically not worth the amount of time it takes to clear bone pits though.

wassup1444465

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Slash Rank [DeeR]

For the people with the rune problem, use a major. They aren't at traders either but they are half the price and with a 19-20% enchant mod you will definitely be fine. I also disagree about those terrawebs at the end of the run. If you pull properly, you can get them all at once, and they have a decent droprate for ecto.

itsvictor

itsvictor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Best bet is to buy them from players. Worth 15-25k on the market last I checked.

It's worth the investment. Only if you're bad a timing, I'm doing fine with a minor cause i'm too lazy to search for a superior.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Have you tried keeping health below 100? (It hasn't been stated like 100 times on these forums you know :P ) Oh no, no, no. You don't not want to take on the dead collectors and threshers at low HP. If one of the collectors summons a minion just before dying, you may end up eating the AoE on Suffering, Feast of Corruption, or Mark of Pain, as the threshers unload on the now-unbound minion. As long as you run away so that you don't take multiple hits, each of those is survivable at high health, but any of them is fatal at low health.

Barrage

Barrage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

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when i do runs i usually know out the terrorwebs , (look for charged blackness if your doing that)

bone pits is never fun to do sometimes killing you

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon
Oh no, no, no. You don't not want to take on the dead collectors and threshers at low HP. If one of the collectors summons a minion just before dying, you may end up eating the AoE on Suffering, Feast of Corruption, or Mark of Pain, as the threshers unload on the now-unbound minion. As long as you run away so that you don't take multiple hits, each of those is survivable at high health, but any of them is fatal at low health. Ok, didn't know about that since i never bothered to farm down there. Thanks for the heads up.

fenix

fenix

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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I group all the Terrorwebs easily, just aggro both groups at the door, and walk backwards around the corner, they'll ball on the edge of the door.

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
I group all the Terrorwebs easily, just aggro both groups at the door, and walk backwards around the corner, they'll ball on the edge of the door. Do it at low health, and pull them out while the last 18 mindblades are surrounding you, and you get a free minute+ off the run.

fenix

fenix

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Hmm yeah I never thought of it that way, might do that next time. I always run around with about 60 health anyway

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Hmm yeah I never thought of it that way, might do that next time. I always run around with about 60 health anyway I cut 5 min easily off my time doing 2 things. The vamp weapon, and pulling that last group with the terrorwebs. If you are good at dodging bodyblocks, then I would highly recommend the big pull. If you aren't, then you can get bodyblocked far enough inside the gate to get killed, as a dryder and a couple blacknesses have a patrol route that comes nearly to the gate. So be careful!

The most fun I've had on the run is forgetting to take my vamp weapon off, and managing to swap at 1 hp...gets the adrenaline going like in smite farming days.

lilesnoopy

lilesnoopy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

The Imperial Guard of Vabbi

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thank you once again this guide is awesome!! got 185k in about 3 days of farmingavg 3 times a day totally awesome.

Golgotha

Golgotha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon
Oh no, no, no. You don't not want to take on the dead collectors and threshers at low HP. If one of the collectors summons a minion just before dying, you may end up eating the AoE on Suffering, Feast of Corruption, or Mark of Pain, as the threshers unload on the now-unbound minion. As long as you run away so that you don't take multiple hits, each of those is survivable at high health, but any of them is fatal at low health. I've cleared that area many times and have never taken more than 40 damage in a hit. That has only happened twice in countless runs. As long as you save that portion for last, the minute chance of death is worth the countless time you save in the other runs.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by itsvictor
Only if you're bad a timing, I'm doing fine with a minor cause i'm too lazy to search for a superior. Minors, majors, AND superiors are all out lol. I'm just sticking with my Me/A, HM ftw.

SimonTheMaster

SimonTheMaster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Qc.

Looking for one...

Mo/E

44 ectos in 3 hours. kthxbai.

Spider Pig

Spider Pig

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Pirates of the Searing [YoHo]

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Am I the only one who doesn't get 5-10 Ectos per run? I barely get 2 Ectos in a run

Larcen

Larcen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Southern Maryland

Midnight Oasis

Lowest - 0
Highest - 14
Average - 5-7

It all has to do with luck I suppose, rarely do I ever get 0, and only on occasions do I get more than 6 or 7.

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nodakim
well...i am atm playing gw and i left my assa waiting before the behemoth....killed the aaxte bitches(all except 4,but i didnt want to spend 15 minutes just to kill 4 of them) and now i am figuring out what to do next...a
any tips? Aatxes only take 1 minute to kill with <100 health / MoR+LF build.

360??

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larcen
Lowest - 0
Highest - 14
Average - 3-5

It all has to do with luck I suppose, rarely do I ever get 0, and only on occasions do I get more than 6 or 7. Fixed. Getting five to seven ectos a run is exaggeration.

fenix

fenix

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Actually I'm getting 5-7 a run on average too...

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 360°
Fixed. Getting five to seven ectos a run is exaggeration. Umm...baed luck much? I never get lower then 5, lately I haven't been getting any higher though.

Dragonious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hot Springs, AR

Dei Victorae [dV]

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a/me is so much better...they dont deaggro AT ALL in nm and its so easy to wall block them in HM anyway ^_^

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Umm...they don't scatter in nm for A/E dunno what you're doing. Please take your /fail somewhere else ^_^

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonious
a/me is so much better...they dont deaggro AT ALL in nm and its so easy to wall block them in HM anyway ^_^
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Have you tried keeping health below 100? (It hasn't been stated like 100 times on these forums you know :P ) 1234567chars.

Kiluna

Kiluna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Finland

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
Umm...baed luck much? I never get lower then 5, lately I haven't been getting any higher though. I've farmed about 150 ectos with this farm, my best run is 8 ectos and average is 3-4 per run, like many other people have

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

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well i started off getting 7-11 drops per run but over time it has dropped to 3-4.
I have been using various methods to cut down on time though.

I also did a test on my ele who hasnt been to uw in over a year using a grail of might. got 3e then as well but i did get aa run complete in 24 mins.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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With the rise in shard price can you solo the spider cave A/E style?

~A Leprechaun~

xployt

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

would it be more efficient to use

+1 fire 20%
1/2 recharge 20%

or

1/2 cast 20%
1/2 recharge 20%

also are there any similar areas where i can practice this build before i throw away plats at grenth lol

lol im a noob but im not sure why i cant get 12 fire 3 deadly 12 shadow... i can only get 11 shadow and then boosts up to 15 with my +4 shadow mask
edit: o no... i dont have to go all the way to crystal desert and do that quest do i...