youve got a perfect path through the middle,
oh wait. you didnt bring a speed boost.
Solo Shadowform Sin - Chaos Plains NM Farm
boogerboy72
Dark Without Fear
I LOVE YOU
after i mastered it, i got 7 ectos tonight
you deserve to have instant Obsidian armor
LEGEND!
after i mastered it, i got 7 ectos tonight
you deserve to have instant Obsidian armor
LEGEND!
assassin of the night
Is the MoR and Lava Font build faster?
blackknight1337
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Originally Posted by assassin of the night
Is the MoR and Lava Font build faster?
If you manage your health right, yes. Also it can kill attaxes.
Golgotha
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Originally Posted by assassin of the night
Is the MoR and Lava Font build faster?
IMO, yes. Just be sure to have your health below 100 once you hit the plains by allowing SF to run out in a safe area and maintaining the low health with a vampiric weapon. That way they won't scatter.
Master Necromanz
I got only 1 ecto and 1goldie, in my 1 run. is this a unluckky day for me...?? (i think)
BLOODGOAT
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Originally Posted by blackknight1337
Actually, except attaxes you should never have to apply MoR more than once. And at any rate you should have an attaxe selected, thus knowing when you need MoR back on again.
I don't select enemies when I attack, I spam F. And that's my entire point, the Aatxes are the only ones who need a second application of MoR which is why I use GoLE as my timer.
Yobs
Nice thread and guide, thanks for the vampiric tip bloodgoat this dramatically sped up the run 
. Just be careful if you make a vampiric melee weapon the aataxe have repost so auto attack is very bad for your health. Learn't this the hard way LOLZ.
Yobs
. Just be careful if you make a vampiric melee weapon the aataxe have repost so auto attack is very bad for your health. Learn't this the hard way LOLZ.Yobs
PinkD
and I also reduce my health by let SF expired. then recast again with combo, to the mobs and keep wanding them. this your health will not regen. Keep SF up and enjoy the mascared!
Coeus
I dont get why you post pictures of you getting ecto, if we all did that then this thread would take ages to load.
Also I am pretty sure it has been stated about 500 times that dropping your health to 50 keeps them aggroed to you.
Also why do you use dark escape? I honestly think that is the worst runnign move out of the other ones you could use.
Also I am pretty sure it has been stated about 500 times that dropping your health to 50 keeps them aggroed to you.
Also why do you use dark escape? I honestly think that is the worst runnign move out of the other ones you could use.
War My Guild
For those who had trouble with the charged blackness, it is actually possible to outrun them. I've done it, not the funnest things though.
Bad Joe
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Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT
You can trigger traps without taking damage? :/
Pl0x to make video and YouTube it for demonstration purposes. I tried to run with [Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support] instead a running skill to disarm the Behemoth traps. Looks like it works pretty well. Just send the poor assassin to the behemoth, and when the traps triggered, walk trough the path.
Pl0x to make video and YouTube it for demonstration purposes. I tried to run with [Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support] instead a running skill to disarm the Behemoth traps. Looks like it works pretty well. Just send the poor assassin to the behemoth, and when the traps triggered, walk trough the path.
Elite Bushido
to trigger traps without taking dmg(IF you need to do this) run close to the trap then run back, it takes like a good second for the traps to actually go off.
Kiluna
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Originally Posted by War My Guild
For those who had trouble with the charged blackness, it is actually possible to outrun them. I've done it, not the funnest things though.
That's what i did on my first 3 runs as i didn't know the running route that well... in fact, on my first run i did do it totally wrong, but still managed it
I pretty much aggroed all possiple blackness groups there are :P
I pretty much aggroed all possiple blackness groups there are :P
Trinity Fire Angel
just found out how to do perma-shadow with my E/A (yes, 100% perma E/A. i was running around northern shiverpeaks in HM). just going to try this run tonight... it should go faster with E/A as i have more energy and more "Fire" power... considering my character name and all... 
oh, and i don;t need Sup Sin runes which are now more expensive than ecto's themselves... if you can buy sup runes.
oh, and i don;t need Sup Sin runes which are now more expensive than ecto's themselves... if you can buy sup runes.
darckz
my first run : 1 ectos. lol
Golgotha
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Originally Posted by War My Guild
For those who had trouble with the charged blackness, it is actually possible to outrun them. I've done it, not the funnest things though.
Yep, and if you've taken too long (for those that aren't used to the route through the mountains) and have the charged blacknesses waiting for you by the entrance to the plains, just pull them with a bow and run around the path to the other side. Easy to do with any speed boost.
Zhoul
I've done a full video of me doing it in 28 mins with the Inferno+Phoenix build, in case anyone wants to see it to clear up some doubts.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ_N_hlEs7I
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUrrr97-BzU
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ_N_hlEs7I
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUrrr97-BzU
Jebus
Can you kill Aatxes with this? I can't seem to succeed at it with the default build :s
War My Guild
Jebus, the main point of the build is to get to the Chaos plains and kill the mindblades. Compared to that, Aaxtes are not at all important.
If you really, really want to kill them, though, run Mark of Rodgort and Lava font instead of phoenix and inferno. Note that they will die alot slower than the squidy things(name escapes me atm).
If you really, really want to kill them, though, run Mark of Rodgort and Lava font instead of phoenix and inferno. Note that they will die alot slower than the squidy things(name escapes me atm).
luwe80
Thanks to OP.
Just made a sin, got him ready and tried yesterday. Works great although 6-12 ecto seem exagerated. I usually get 2-4. Best run was 6e and 2 scrolls.
Just made a sin, got him ready and tried yesterday. Works great although 6-12 ecto seem exagerated. I usually get 2-4. Best run was 6e and 2 scrolls.
eeks
Haha. As I have an utterly atrocious habit of letting my eyes drift away from current enchantments, and alt tabbing to read stuff whilst farming, I wasted 15k on failing.
Then I dropped the habits for one more run and managed to get 7 ectos which, despite my failures, was still profitable. XD Then managed to get another 7 from another run.. and a half. I alt tabbed and read junk again for one run. *pouts*
Thanks for the builds - use the MoR + Lava Font one. Works well.
Then I dropped the habits for one more run and managed to get 7 ectos which, despite my failures, was still profitable. XD Then managed to get another 7 from another run.. and a half. I alt tabbed and read junk again for one run. *pouts*
Thanks for the builds - use the MoR + Lava Font one. Works well.
luwe80
7 consistently is nice. I also use LF+MoR. Takes about 25 minutes as try to agro at least 3 riders at a time. I know this has been discussed a million times but does it seem better to aggro 1 or 2 riders at a time?
Spider Pig
I'm currently using the Pheonix+Inferno build, Should I switch to Lava Font and Rodgort?
Are there any differences in drop rates between the two?
Are there any differences in drop rates between the two?
Coeus
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Originally Posted by luwe80
7 consistently is nice. I also use LF+MoR. Takes about 25 minutes as try to agro at least 3 riders at a time. I know this has been discussed a million times but does it seem better to aggro 1 or 2 riders at a time?
The more the merrier.
If you go 4 at start, 3 at that shrine and 2 at the end then you can do the run in about 20 min. But if you aggro them in smaller groups then it'd probably be 30 min. So if you want to complete the run faster then aggro more
If you go 4 at start, 3 at that shrine and 2 at the end then you can do the run in about 20 min. But if you aggro them in smaller groups then it'd probably be 30 min. So if you want to complete the run faster then aggro more
eeks
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Originally Posted by Spider Pig
I'm currently using the Pheonix+Inferno build, Should I switch to Lava Font and Rodgort?
Are there any differences in drop rates between the two? I haven't used the other yet. Reading through the thread, I think the only difference is the MoR + Lava Font build kills Aatxes with Viper's Defense. I have Dash in its place, though I managed to kill a few Aatxes without Viper's Defense. I usually ignore them however, as it slows down the run.
Managed to get almost 85k from three successful runs - even one ecto from a run makes up for the money spent getting into the UW.
(Why couldn't it be called something else? The anagram for Viper's Defense is nashty. XD)
Are there any differences in drop rates between the two? I haven't used the other yet. Reading through the thread, I think the only difference is the MoR + Lava Font build kills Aatxes with Viper's Defense. I have Dash in its place, though I managed to kill a few Aatxes without Viper's Defense. I usually ignore them however, as it slows down the run.
Managed to get almost 85k from three successful runs - even one ecto from a run makes up for the money spent getting into the UW.
(Why couldn't it be called something else? The anagram for Viper's Defense is nashty. XD)
Paul thy god
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Originally Posted by eeks
(Why couldn't it be called something else? The anagram for Viper's Defense is nashty. XD) Im sorry i dont quite follow?
Joshthor
my new favorite run lol. i tried 5 times and couldnt figure out the route then i figured it out the 6th time and got to the riders where it was smooth sailing, i use the MoR + Lava version, however first time i went 1 rider at a time and it took me an hour lol :P. but time well spent imo, i got 7 ectos and 4 gold drops.
lol. i tried 5 times and couldnt figure out the route then i figured it out the 6th time and got to the riders where it was smooth sailing, i use the MoR + Lava version, however first time i went 1 rider at a time and it took me an hour lol :P. but time well spent imo, i got 7 ectos and 4 gold drops.
BLOODGOAT
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Originally Posted by eeks
I haven't used the other yet. Reading through the thread, I think the only difference is the MoR + Lava Font build kills Aatxes with Viper's Defense. I have Dash in its place, though I managed to kill a few Aatxes without Viper's Defense. I usually ignore them however, as it slows down the run.
Managed to get almost 85k from three successful runs - even one ecto from a run makes up for the money spent getting into the UW.
(Why couldn't it be called something else? The anagram for Viper's Defense is nashty. XD) You don't need Viper's Defense to kill Aatxe and it only takes 2 minutes to kill them. Kill 6 of them with the Grasping and it only adds a minute onto your opening room. Not that bad.
Managed to get almost 85k from three successful runs - even one ecto from a run makes up for the money spent getting into the UW.
(Why couldn't it be called something else? The anagram for Viper's Defense is nashty. XD) You don't need Viper's Defense to kill Aatxe and it only takes 2 minutes to kill them. Kill 6 of them with the Grasping and it only adds a minute onto your opening room. Not that bad.
Spike Stritter
i used the pheonix + inferno build for awhile. today i switched to MoR + Font. font is much faster(3 minish) and less stressful on energy. with P + I you have to use P 3 times and I 2 times to kill the spectrles and wait for them to recharge while doing that. with MoR + font u just cast MoR once and wait for the 5 sec of font(or 2.5 if u have HSR ) and use font 3 times to get the spectrels. only thing is with this u have to keep ur health low or enemies scatter...which is very easy to keep health low if u have a vamp. i highly recommend this over P+I. i still use dash and im able to kill the aatxes
Energy wise:
PHEONIX(P) + INFERNO(I)(3xP(15)-18from enrgy return from FA) +(2xI(10)-8from energy return of FA)=39 - 15 from GOLE (20-5 to cast) = 24 energy total
MARK OF RODGORT(MoR) + LAVA FONT(1xMoR(15)-6fromFA) +(3xFont(10)-12FromFA)=27-15 from GOLE(20-5to cast) =12 energy total
now of course these dont apply recharge time,energy regen but u can see the difference.
) and use font 3 times to get the spectrels. only thing is with this u have to keep ur health low or enemies scatter...which is very easy to keep health low if u have a vamp. i highly recommend this over P+I. i still use dash and im able to kill the aatxesEnergy wise:
PHEONIX(P) + INFERNO(I)(3xP(15)-18from enrgy return from FA) +(2xI(10)-8from energy return of FA)=39 - 15 from GOLE (20-5 to cast) = 24 energy total
MARK OF RODGORT(MoR) + LAVA FONT(1xMoR(15)-6fromFA) +(3xFont(10)-12FromFA)=27-15 from GOLE(20-5to cast) =12 energy total
now of course these dont apply recharge time,energy regen but u can see the difference.
Jebus
I've noticed I'm getting way better drops with the Phoenix/Inferno build, that is because Mark of Rodgort/Lava Font kills all the enemies at once, and when I use the Phoenix/Inferno combo a few times I get the mindblades at around 10 hp, which is perfect for wanding them to death, usually resulting me in more drops .
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Kiluna
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Originally Posted by Jebus
that is because Mark of Rodgort/Lava Font kills all the enemies at once
Not so long time a go there was a topic(can't find the thread though), where 2 people tryed "syncing" their runs. Which means with my crappy english that they tryed to enter same zone at same time. Other was killing stuff one by one and other was killing many at same time (aoe) and their loot was 90% same. (that 10% error in same loot was/is simply there because it's hard to zone exactly at same time)
So i do say that the loot is generated when you zone, no matter how you kill your stuff, you will get your items.
edit; ok it's soon 1 year since that post, but here it is:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10225077
So i do say that the loot is generated when you zone, no matter how you kill your stuff, you will get your items.
edit; ok it's soon 1 year since that post, but here it is:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10225077
fenix
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Originally Posted by Zhoul
I've done a full video of me doing it in 28 mins with the Inferno+Phoenix build, in case anyone wants to see it to clear up some doubts.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ_N_hlEs7I
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUrrr97-BzU You sir, are my hero.
My last run time was 35 minutes, which has been my normal time. After watching your videos, I just did a 22 minute run, without a single problem. If I wasn't so greedy, I'd give you ecto as presents. For now you'll have to accept this big <3
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ_N_hlEs7I
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUrrr97-BzU You sir, are my hero.
My last run time was 35 minutes, which has been my normal time. After watching your videos, I just did a 22 minute run, without a single problem. If I wasn't so greedy, I'd give you ecto as presents. For now you'll have to accept this big <3
A Leprechaun
Killing them one by one definitly gives more drops (for me anyway). But considering that ecto droprate is not affected and that is what you are really farming for then you may as well kill them all at once.
~A Leprechaun~
~A Leprechaun~
Jason Xll
Quick question: can this A/E build still be run without the EotN skill Glyph of Swiftness? I heard essence of celerity consumable is used instead?
kvndoom
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Originally Posted by Paul thy god
Im sorry i dont quite follow?
She meant initials (VD). 
Nightow
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Originally Posted by Jason Xll
Quick question: can this A/E build still be run without the EotN skill Glyph of Swiftness? I heard essence of celerity consumable is used instead?
[glyph of swiftness] = reduced recharge by 25%
essence = reduced recharge by 25%
So yeah, you could but then that would mean you're making less of a return in the long run.
essence = reduced recharge by 25%
So yeah, you could but then that would mean you're making less of a return in the long run.
MisterT69
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Originally Posted by kvndoom
He meant initials (VD).
If you still don't follow, VD = vanarial disease. If you still don't follow, google it. BTW, the MoR + Lava Font build= win compared to the phoenix one. This one provides the constant burn degen and the speed you need to finish a run in 20-30 mins tops. But either build totally pwns the dagger UW
If you still don't follow, VD = vanarial disease. If you still don't follow, google it. BTW, the MoR + Lava Font build= win compared to the phoenix one. This one provides the constant burn degen and the speed you need to finish a run in 20-30 mins tops. But either build totally pwns the dagger UW
Taisayacho
What fun with the Lava + MoR
Heh.
And great screenshot opportunities, too.
Heh.
And great screenshot opportunities, too.
Nodakim
ok,i heard a rumour that the +3 shadow art(-75 hp) rune has been removed from the game,and i wonder is it because of this build?