Solo Shadowform Sin - Chaos Plains NM Farm
sLiceR
If you mean the ones after the first group of behemots, just wait like 10 seconds before the behemoths. The blacknesses will then go their way and you can go yours. When going up the mountains then dont take the corner where the blacknesses are camped (on your left), take the tunnel instead (on your right). This will minimize your chance of encountering blacknesses on your way.
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
Oh, another thing. There always seems to be a group (usually 2 or 3) of charged blacknesses camped at the gates onto the chaos plains, is this normal, its a pain in the ass but managable. Is it worth killing the graspings/aatxe before you start to go up the mountains? I have been.
~A Leprechaun~ I believe that only happens when you get up the mountain too slow.
~A Leprechaun~ I believe that only happens when you get up the mountain too slow.
volgaris
so you are keeping your health low so nothing runs away? wasn't sure why
sLiceR
if you keep health anywhere under 100hp they don't run away (at least in NM)..
anne_h
I use roughly the same build (
Prophecies Lava Font
* 4
* 2
* 10
Spell. For 5 seconds, foes adjacent to the location where this Spell was cast are struck for 5..41..53 fire damage. (Attrib: Fire Magic)
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Prophecies Mark of Rodgort
* 15
* 1
* 15
Hex Spell. Target foe and all nearby foes are Hexed with Mark of Rodgort. For 10..30..37 seconds, whenever each foe is struck for fire damage, that foe is set on fire for 1..3..4 seconds. (Attrib: Fire Magic)
for damage). works good for me. did a 30 min run today (full chaos planes clear)
is quite nice nice
Prophecies Lava Font
* 4
* 2
* 10
Spell. For 5 seconds, foes adjacent to the location where this Spell was cast are struck for 5..41..53 fire damage. (Attrib: Fire Magic)
+
Prophecies Mark of Rodgort
* 15
* 1
* 15
Hex Spell. Target foe and all nearby foes are Hexed with Mark of Rodgort. For 10..30..37 seconds, whenever each foe is struck for fire damage, that foe is set on fire for 1..3..4 seconds. (Attrib: Fire Magic)
for damage). works good for me. did a 30 min run today (full chaos planes clear)
is quite nice nice
Neo Nugget
This is working very well for me. <3 ectos.
This had better not get nerfed in any shape or form, or I will be very, very
This had better not get nerfed in any shape or form, or I will be very, very
SimonTheMaster
Dunno if this has already been answered, but can an ele with the exact same skills and about the same stats can do the same run?
Thanks
Thanks
English Warrior
what makes this better then the A/Me HM solo?
mwaddoups
As far as I can tell, it is because this requires no title track skills therefore is runnable by anyone, and is also faster as far as I can tell - most people are reporting 30 min runs, the mesmer build takes about 40-50 mins.
Kerwyn Nasilan
3 runs 0 ectos meh..
teotuf
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Originally Posted by mwaddoups
As far as I can tell, it is because this requires no title track skills therefore is runnable by anyone, and is also faster as far as I can tell - most people are reporting 30 min runs, the mesmer build takes about 40-50 mins.
in NM the a/me version is about 5 min slower with ether nightmare and cry of pain. however, if you add wandering eye, or clumsiness, i'd imagine that the time is probably more or less the same.
kicks66
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Originally Posted by sLiceR
can someone post some screens of what groupd they aggro together in the chaos planes? I heard it's possible to aggro 4 dreamriders at the start but I can't do that
I put a map in my first post with a map of the aggros. Make sure you have a longbow for this.
RotteN
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Originally Posted by SimonTheMaster
Dunno if this has already been answered, but can an ele with the exact same skills and about the same stats can do the same run?
Not with SF, as it won't last long enough with only 12 shadow arts.
Jhadur
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Originally Posted by sLiceR
if you keep health anywhere under 100hp they don't run away (at least in NM)..
I do consistant 25 min runs in NM and I never have anything run away (Not even the riders).
You don't need to get them next to a wall either. It's all down to the timing of skills. [Build=OwZSo4PPSfekODZgLCG3iJI] I use that build and agro riders into a ball then do skills in following order whilst keeping up SF. 4,5,6,7,7,7,4,6,6,7 That should kill the riders without them running. I you do another 7 between the 6's then they will scatter. For the Mindblades I do the following. 4,5,6,7,7,7,4,6,7 This won't cause the Mindblades to scatter at all. Hope this helps and can speed up times a bit for people. Oh and Seth got another 10e run today  So made 113e from this in less than a week.
SimonTheMaster
Damn I would gladly make an Assassin only to do this run... but the question is: will Anet nerf it in the upcoming week?
FengShuiDove
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Originally Posted by SimonTheMaster
Damn I would gladly make an Assassin only to do this run... but the question is: will Anet nerf it in the upcoming week?
Doesn't matter. If they nerf it back to what it was before it's still possible to maintain Shadow Form permanently. End of story.
blackknight1337
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Originally Posted by SimonTheMaster
Damn I would gladly make an Assassin only to do this run... but the question is: will Anet nerf it in the upcoming week?
Thats what I did last week, made a sin to do this run. I now have upwards of 75 ecto from the run, and i'm not farming more than a few runs a night. My advice is to make a sin now, and get it leveled up and at toa asap. Equip isn't hard to come by, and you can have it done in under 12 hours (at least thats what it took me). Even if its nerfed in the next month, it takes just a handful of runs to start making profit, counting the time it took to make the char. If you need a maj shadow rune and the trader is still sold out of them as well as superiors, you can leave me a PM, as I have the one I took off my mask in exchange for the sup, and I'd happily sell it to you for a good price. teotuf
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Originally Posted by kicks66
Actually, if you get experienced with this build the run takes about 20 mins. It also doesnt require the timing of Echo in the other build.
exactly, with a/me i'm doing 22-25 min runs in NM, and 27-30 min run sin HM, the killing speed isn't that much slower, the 2 sec echo is almost more of a limiting factor than the killing speed since it prevents you from walking. though i admit the build is much easier/safer w/o the echo timing. i really want to get eotn and try out this build =(
Neo Nugget
What's a good way to kill the dreamriders quicker, i can never kill them without them scattering and then spreading apart.
Kazamafury
Thanks for this build!
And the run video. And to the person who suggested keeping under 100hp that they won't scatter. Runs go much quicker now and get to kill those Bladed Aatxes. I've tested this "trick" on HM, they still scatter unfortunately. Personally I run the MoR, Lava Font and Flame Djinn variant. I tried using Phoenix instead of MoR, didn't feel the damage output was as good. Maybe Phoenix and Inferno instead of Mor / LF would do better. Sometimes, the occasional Behemoth spawn ruins the run but definitely profits outweight the costs... I wonder for how long, if ectos will somehow stabilize and still be at a decent price. I mean, there were many farm builds out there before this one, albeit not as quick and profitable. My only question is has anyone tried other areas? After the horsemen, I kill the small group of terrorwebs and avoid the charged darknesses patrol. If there was a way to deal with them, that would be another nice area to farm ectos. Do you guys do any of the quests, restoring the monuments? I've also tried farming the dead collectors and threshers but I've been running under 100hp, if I don't manage to kill them together, then it could eventually get me killed. Reason is that one of the threshers who raised a minion dies, minion is no longer linked, a thresher casts suffering on it, I will also get it even if I have SF on. If I go over 100hp, I can't seem to get them stuck in one place.
MMSDome
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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
What's a good way to kill the dreamriders quicker, i can never kill them without them scattering and then spreading apart.
When they scatter (because they will) just run away and run around in a fashion that will bunch them back together and get right back to work.
nekopowa
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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
I believe that only happens when you get up the mountain too slow.
Yes that's correct, you have to follow them immediately when they start going up the mountain.
fog_of_redoubt
Superior Shadow Arts Runes are impossible to buy now
sLiceR
I'm using major and it works just fine
A Leprechaun
Yeah I'm using a major, I was going to buy a superior from a guildie but tbh I prefer to have a bit more health incase i get caught by a trap or a charged blackness.
Yeah i found a way to deal with the camping blazing by the entrance to the choas plains, I just aggro them then run around the little loop that is right there, then just dash into the plains. ~A Leprechaun~
Kyuuzo
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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
What's a good way to kill the dreamriders quicker, i can never kill them without them scattering and then spreading apart.
I use [Phoenix] + [Inferno] and BDR's don't run. just wait 3-4 seconds between damaging them. They run only when they take too much dps. 25 min runs here with no problems
boogerboy72
with the mor, lava, and flame dijin's build, i dont get hit with fear me.
A Leprechaun
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with the mor, lava, and flame dijin's build, i dont get hit with fear me.
Yeah I randomly tried out Lava Font + Inferno but the graspings owned my ass with "Fear Me!" so I won't be doing that again ^^.
~A Leprechuan~
sLiceR
just got a 23 minutes run with mor+lava build. I think they are the same in terms of damage output..
Lest121
Just like to add, you can clear the Bone pits........
malko050987
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Just like to add, you can clear the Bone pits........
Feast of Corruption can actually kill you in there, though
It's unlikely to happen if you're at full health, but if you've been careless and aren't at full health, it can happen. Also, it's annoying to chase after the damn Threshers.
A Leprechaun
Is it worth clearing the bone pits? Ecto/money wise?
~A Leprechaun~
malko050987
I only completely cleared it once, and I got two ectos and one gold item. They DO drop ecto, so it's worth killing them, if you feel like it. In a normal run, I just kill the first four that are at the entrance, and I didn't have any ecto drops there yet.
fenix
So I did 2 full runs, and got 2 ecto. 0 on the first, 2 on the second. Then I got 3 spawns in a row where I couldn't even get PAST the Behemoths, let alone past their traps, because they had completely bodyblocked the path. Needless to say I am f*cking mad.
Pale-Dim
Fenix: yah thats something that you just need to deal with. it will happen from time to time but its only a couple mins into the run so its not a huge deal. If you are worried about the 1k loss then dont sweat it. once you get to the plains its smooth sailing with normally 4+ecto a run so even if you lose a 1k here its there dont sweat it.
Leprachan: You can run the lava/inferno just at the graspings you need to be VERY cautious. When you have the group together use the lava/inferno once and then wait it out. recast the SF then just use lava. it takes a extra 30 secs to clear this area but you just need to play it safe. 2x lava per SF casting and you will be fine. Honestly though going with MOR is safer and pretty much clears the area in the same time
Kazamafury
Yeah my first few runs, I think I got a total of 5 ectos, a black and white dye. It's just a question of luck. Sometimes, this can happen too:
 Got a total of 12 ectos that run. Including the Aatxe at the start and the first 2 groups of terrorwebs in the spawning pools.
Kyuuzo
wow, nice pic
 . Anyway, i took a break. got work to do plus the server maintenance ANET announced messes up my ping horribly. Good thing they'll finish by tomorrow
Sjeng
Frustration aplenty as my friggin wireless crappy network keeps rubberbanding me all over. So I'm standing there, waiting in front of the behemoths, ready to charge through as soon as the blacknesses are gone, and 1 second later I'm suddenly smack in the middle of behemoths, traps going off all around me, aatxes behind me, blacknesses in front of me...
5 failed runs. 5k lost. 1k gained with some drops from graspings. a lot of frustration. yes. rubberbanding. A true joy. now, excuse me as I go get my scissors and do some damage to this stack of rubberbands on my desk. kicks66
I get very few problems with rubberband. And I know exactly when rubberbanding has occured. Its just a case of knowing how it comes about and how to avoid it, like ranger bows with the z axis
Nightow
I Keep getting lost in the mountains and then killed by blacknessess. -_-
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